Explaining Why I Think This Should be the Last Round of Reverse Retros

Basically, I want to see something new or different the next time around. Some teams don't have much else they can do from a reverse retro standpoint.
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[@panik28]

I agree, special jerseys stop being special once they have them every single year. We can revisit this in 10 years when teams like Vegas and Seattle might actually have some retro stuff to use.

[@chrisbelos2834]

here's the catch : having new jerseys every year makes them special since the teams won't play with the old ones after. they should have new releases every year, with different themes. Selling brand is the name of the game

[@mrgreekgm754]

@@chrisbelos2834 Naw.

[@trevorlambert4226]

I think they should go the other way, just to see how stupid it can get before people stop buying them. Let's see if they can get it up to weekly.

[@fabriziolorenzo2392]

Honestly, this jersey gimmick should’ve been branded something like the “Retro Remix” from the get-go to give those teams with a more restricted palate a lot more freedom to choose.

[@everydayislikeafieldtrip]

The Canes will wear 6 different jerseys this year so yes, we're very near a point where the jersey market is very saturated right now.

[@trevorlambert4226]

I'd like to see them wear a completely different jersey every game.

[@Mechanicsville804]

👆hahaha

[@aaronhutchison5850]

Yeah Penguins are going to have 5, same with Boston I believe. It's fun to see so many but i don't think they should continue reverse retros

[@generalimlerith8356]

I also love Calgary’s Reverse Retro because it reminds me of the time when I cheered for Jarome Iginla and Theo Fleury

[@trevorlambert4226]

Hmm. Aside from that diagonal thing on the bottom looking ridiculous (looked bad then, looks just as bad now), this harkens back to an era of pretty awful Flames teams.

[@MisterCaution]

On the CHGO Blackhawks Podcast, the Hawks’ ownership and business office people (Danny Wirtz and Jamie Faulkner) were asked how Reverse Retros are decided… They basically said teams are given the choice of three options that Adidas staff comes up independently, and that teams themselves don’t really get much interaction or creative liberty with Adidas.

[@chickenfkeryay]

Thats absolutely terrible

[@MisterCaution]

@@chickenfkeryay Yep. Hopefully the league will build a bit more team independence into the next outfitter contract.

[@fantasticvoyage262]

I wish we could see what the other options were.

[@tomservo9254]

Pure hearsay, but apparently Detroit's owners absolutely despise the RR concept and intentionally pick the worst of the options Adidas gives to them so they won't sell and only have to put them on the ice for the absolute minimum mandated amount of games.

[@DracoX-hz3tu]

Calgary's jersey is also my favorite, as a leafs fan. Red and black just work so well together and that striping is odd but very unique

[@vithursan.b]

Whoever takes over the manufacturing once Adidas is gone, I still want to see a series of alternate jerseys

[@chrisguardiano6143]

However if Nike takes over, expect them to bring their "City" jersey concept that is currently used in the NBA in the NHL as well. Those jerseys are mostly ugly especially the Brooklyn Nets one from a few years ago.

[@vithursan.b]

@@chrisguardiano6143 I can already imagine the Panthers doing a Miami Vice style of uniform and the Blackhawks with their city flag. I've seen many concepts over the years and its tiring to see the same thing

[@marny129]

@@chrisguardiano6143 Nike has the NBA, MLB, and NFL jersey rights. They won’t get the NHL.

[@chrisguardiano6143]

@@marny129 they might because they want a monopoly over the jersey market in North America

[@we5t5id3gunn]

@@chrisguardiano6143their city connect in mlb is even worse ive seen the phillies leaked one its disrespectful to our history

[@artystaar]

I was discussing this yesterday. I think they could do it again in 5 years. 10 would be better.

[@jf_40]

The Australian Football League had a "Heritage Round" from 2003 to 2008, where all 16 teams wore guernseys based on old designs from their club history (or former teams from that same area). It even extended to the umpires for a few years as well, just to add an extra touch to it.

[@nyrmetros]

Go Collingwood Magpies!

[@TheStunscsa]

Next thing I would like to see some teams do is old colours on current designs. Like the Orca in skate colours for Vancouver. Or Kings current in either Purple or Gold

[@mentalcow]

100% . I think a lot of people forgot what these jerseys are meant to be. They are meant to be take something from your past, ugly, wacky, weird, cool, whatever it is. Change up the colours, either a perfect reverse or a different colour in a similar vibe.... they arent meant to be game changing beautiful jerseys... I think for what they are meant to be they are really cool this time around

[@OneAndOnlyKJx]

I think it'd nice if they did a completely new round of 32 jerseys with a theme

[@Sonicthehedgefundmanager]

Blackout neons like Dallas has would be cool for the whole league.

[@SofaMuncher]

Would be cool if they did a set of Jerseys all containing some for of hockey equipment (stick, puck, skate etc)

[@CepheidMadEngineer]

I like a league theme idea. Do a fan vote, but on a league wide theme instead of per team designs. Maybe seed the themes? Or bracket? (Ways to limit internet voting from giving us Jersey McJersey Theme)

[@TheBoyer19]

Do the city jerseys like the NBA does

[@Rentta]

@@Sonicthehedgefundmanager Make them glow in the dark too

[@oceanshrugs9235]

I think we could do other things, like mandatory thirds (or 4ths if you have a third already) but I love options so it'll never be oversaturated for me

[@balawi3039]

The Calgary jersey has been a big controversy among Flames fans from what I've seen but personally I like it. My only preference would've been to have the flaming C be smaller much like the original jerseys they are based on.

[@Art29Art29]

The thing I don’t understand is the stripe that is kinda vertical, plz explain why that stripe is there

[@balawi3039]

@@Art29Art29 Because the diagonal stripe it was the same design used in the '94 jerseys these are based off of. The jersey was short lived because it was fairly controversial back then too from what I know and the fact the Flames were not in a good spot in the late 90s doesn't help it's reputation. I think it'll look good on the ice though we'll have to wait and see.

[@omegablack80214]

I love the Calgary jersey, the diagonal stripe plus the flaming C remind me of the Olympic Flame sorta

[@Johnmk24]

As usual Shannon, spot on analysis. Love the “every-Person” take on NHL & the implementation of common sense.

[@tommis3npai]

Agreed on last go around for RR jerseys. It's an Adidas thing (for the most part), let it fade away with Adidas from the NHL. It'd be interesting to see the NHL adopt a City Edition concept the way the NBA does it. Obviously, hockey jerseys are basketball jerseys can't rock designs the same, but the idea on a hockey jersey would be new and allow teams to try new things, similar to what Montreal is doing with this RR. Just my thought

[@chrisguardiano6143]

The only way the City Edition concept makes it to the NHL is if Nike takes over the jersey contract from Adidas. If another brand tries it, Nike will likely sue them.

[@tommis3npai]

@@chrisguardiano6143 yeah, doesn’t have to be EXACTLY Nike’s City Edition, but that kind of idea done in the NHL would be cool to see. Montreal’s RR is suppose to reflect the city of Montreal, so something staying on that theme/idea. Cha’ feel?

[@omegablack80214]

In the 1926-27 season, on the February 17, 1927 game, the Leafs did use green and white as colors as the Leafs

[@patrickmattes4935]

Thanks, Shannon for the channel! I dig RR/variety of sweaters. Wish more cultural/city jerseys. (Blackhawks Fan in Chicago)

[@LSA30]

With Adidas’ contract expiring soon, I don’t think there is enough time for another RR cycle. And the new retailer like Nike or CCM would want to do their own thing rather than recycle Adidas’. What I’d like more is for teams to keep the RRs as alternates, like Calgary.

[@SandyC225]

I love the idea of a concept jersey. I saw one a year or two ago for Florida that was black with the Miami Vice color scheme. I have wanted that ever since

[@chrisbk3265]

Sounds perfect

[@gregbohnert2789]

I think there’s a lot of fun 32-team jerseys runs the NHL could try. Fan Created Jerseys: Like Shannon said. Let the fans design them and vote on the top 5. Colour Rush: They do these in the MLB. Design a jersey with a bright primary colour and then teams use them against each other. So rather than having red vs white or blue vs white, you get a gold vs green or purple vs orange matchup. Futuristic Jerseys: Go full Vegas. Chrome logos, weird striping, shadows, whatever you want. Yeah, they might be ugly but they would be really cool. Set Template: Guve all teams the same template to use. Same striping, same logo placement etc. and let each team add their colours to it and choose which logo they want. Literal Jerseys: Jerseys designed completely based on the teams name with no logos. Flames jersey is literally just Flames. Stars is a night sky. Wild is a forest with animals all over the place, etc. they would be UGLY but as could be cool to see for 3-4 games in a year.

[@utopianandroid]

I really love this idea, THG. We spend too much time feeling nostalgic about the past in sports. Now that we've done a couple rounds, I agree we should try to be creative, think outside the box, and try to get the fans involved.

[@Yo_Adrienne]

I wish they'd take a page from the AHL and ECHL, and have "theme night" jerseys. Like superheroes, autism awareness, Star Wars, various "heritage" nights, camouflage for Veteran's Day, jerseys of a defunct local team... Yesterday was the "kids" game in Chicago. They use all kinds of children's drawings in their social media. It could be fun to base a jersey on one of those drawings. They could pick one from a previous year. I'd love to see a 4-year-old's interpretation of every team's jersey.

[@camthadon5108]

Its really tough but some teams just have so much material to work with like LA or even Boston but this time around it really shows that Detroit and some other teams really struggle with it. I'd like to see another 32 team release but maybe do a different theme. Brand new designs are always nice too

[@camkeefe9304]

shannon im in awe of you rcollection, i get all my jerseys on facebook marketplace

[@michaelmorissette5959]

I like when the MLB did their City Edition jerseys. It would be cool for the NHL to do something like that.

[@FGHY8]

The Devils have artists designing warmup jerseys. They had a cool one for Chinese New Year last year, but they only auctioned off player worn jerseys. They didn't sell them.

[@deepvoicegames5024]

I agreed. as a Rangers fan we got the same logo with a different colour blue and different stripes. where was the shield. they just don't change enough for me

[@Daniel-36]

I like how Shannon can just stand in front of the camera and talk with no white board or anything, and make a great enjoyable video

[@jonasgorea3823]

I agree. Ima bolts fan but idek what our hypothetical 3rd RR would be… they already did the expansion one the first time and the second time would have to be the storm one. Ig maybe the one during stammer’s early years. Or the logo of the lightning bolt over the state of fl and put them in modern colors. Or our current logo in old school colors. Idk

[@brandonwolak836]

Hey Shannon, I just wanted to let you know about the Calgary Reverse Retro being your favorite. Crazily enough I agree and I also have had it a number one on my list and have also faced some disagreements.

[@modernhockeycards]

Next year maybe have 3rd helmets for every team? VGK Gold. LAK Silver. Senators Bronze. EDM Orange. Seattle Clear. Let’s gooooooo!

[@Mechanicsville804]

I agree. I remember when “Sunday Jerseys” came out. It was the beginning of “Third Jerseys” and only some teams had them. The Penguins had them if I’m not mistaken this was the debut of the gradient/robó penguin. Bring back the Sunday Jersey where the home team wears their custom Jersey on Sundays.

[@brendenstuder6119]

32 Teams and you do a jersey contest like what the CHL is doing. They only let you vote on the top 3 chosen by the team/league and I think you can only vote on 1 team's jersey everyday, which would prevent the whole voting for your rival's jersey concept. Granted several of the jerseys that made it through this year look like practice jerseys.

[@noodlesmaclennan5455]

good points, as much as I would love another round, I agree it would be tough to do

[@yogibearstie]

My million dollar idea is the Stanley Cup champion and only the Stanley Cup Champion should replace road white with bright Stanley Cup silver and wear it home and away for the defending season. Every collector would buy it along with most fans of the team.

[@gsinemedia]

I could see a city jersey or color rush series or even a series where they are all experimental stadium series like jerseys but I think reverse retro is done for now.

[@07SuperchargedSS]

There was concepts of a gradient series on Post2Post a couple months back that I thought could be pretty cool.

[@philip2750]

A white CBJ jersey with the cannon in a light blue and the numbers and shoulder patches also in a light blue would look nice.

[@isaacwest276]

As an Edmontonian, I adore Calgary's reverse retros (it's my number one) and I'm mad that people won't buy it; but then I realized, I have no money and want to buy a lot of these Reverse Retros especially the Albertan ones, and maybe I don't need to rush to buy the Calgary one and get it cheaper later...

[@DakotaDidYou]

Considering the Canes was a 2019 design and the Golden Knights and Kraken have barely been in the NHL for a cup of coffee I'm fine with it not coming back for at least a decade.

[@BoyNamedSue4]

While I’m definitely planning on getting the Ducks one. I think the law of demising returns is going to kick in. Love to see the next batch be something new.

[@LHOH197]

I love the idea of having concept designers in a contest because some of the concept designers on Instagram to me are better at designing than these firms that teams are paying 6 figures to design a jersey that the fans absolutely hate so the idea of a designer contest would be awesome

[@thepitt34]

That'd be an awesome idea and great PR for the teams and manufacturers. I've seen some amazing concepts put out.

[@habsaremylife1387]

When launching my KZbin channel I plan to use some of the things that you do in your Channel including having a hockey as a whole perspective instead of just one or two favorite teams I'm setting up my studio now with my 2000 era Toronto Maple Leafs sweater with the All-Star Game patch and my Mike camilleri assistant Captain Jersey that I got for Christmas one year because his number was 13 and 13 is good luck in Italian culture

[@fantasticvoyage262]

I also have watched a lot of the Reverse Retro reviews. And many don't have the Flames that high. They can't get over the random diagonal stripe that comes up out of the tail and clashes with the horizontal stripe. I would probably put it in my top 10. I initially liked it even more. But then TheJerseyZone correctly pointed out there is some weird seam where the stripes intersect that makes the jersey stand out in a bad way.

[@markbertrand4524]

You’ve inspired me to buy the Wild Wing reverse retro. Hated that jersey in the 90’s and this one when it came out. It’s so goofy and fun that it’s grown on me over time. My name on the back with C because like you said, why not make yourself captain?

[@blairlindsay5791]

the Leafs , Stanley Cup , jersey was a wool knit sweater

[@GinoBtheman]

Hey Shannon, 2 weeks late here but here’s your resident ducks fan on what we think the jersey situation is The orange has different striping than the RR Now, with all the rumors saying the ducks will refit with the might duck logo, speculation is now that the RR will have a black counterpart as the home sweater going forward starting next year. So I don’t personally think the orange sweater lives past this season. Also a “throwback” night is scheduled for dec 30, and the weird thing is it’s not a reverse retro night So we might have a “heritage” kit with the eggplant and jade in Anaheim

[@adnank1778]

Rival series. Take the major rivalry’s (ie. BoA or Toronto v Boston) where the jerseys are in the rival teams colours

[@paulvardon6653]

Toronto already had a st pats jersey and they wear them on st paddy’s day games only.

[@curtis5802]

I would love a Miami vice colour wave. Not sure which team could do it best though

[@ryanhoeksema2191]

I totally agree with your take on the meaning behind reverse retro. I watched a rating by the bar down guys on tsn and they were so mad at jerseys because "this was their chance to do something the team has never done before". I chuckled because the definition of retro is going back to something previous, not new. They missed the point, looking for something new and fresh. The teams that respected what was asked truly stand out, whether they are the finest looking of the bunch or not. As in Tampa and Calgary, they are kind of crazy and somewhat ugly. But that's what makes them great.

[@modeisin7]

As an Oilers fan I do like the jersey they revealed but I definitely would have loved just a white Mcfarlane logo jersey literally the same jersey just in white, or even a 90s jersey in the copper color maybe. And for Ottawa I would have loved a red or white word mark I really liked that jersey. Maybe they can do a city jersey kinda like the NBA did I believe like take something special about your city and represent it on the jersey kinda like the Blues “arch” jerseys

[@exeter1985]

I don't know if they do another round of these jerseys? However, I do see that the NHL likes money, and another round of some type of unique, league-wide jerseys is very possible. Perhaps a 'Mascot' Series of jerseys?

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

The Laughs throwback should be golf attire 🤣 Not a fan of the Habs throwback, it's Expos colours but something seems off. My favorite jersey are those dark San Jose ones, I'm surprised those didn't become the new home jersey. I think it would be cool to raffle off designing your local team's jersey. Give the fan an artist if they need help getting it designed.

[@richardclay9669]

I want to see city/state/province edition jerseys but can submitted concepts seems fun

[@ColonizerChan]

I could have 1 more go of reverse retro stuff, but that'd be the last time I want that until maybe 10 years after that.

[@JPS47]

It would depend on who would have the rights to making the uniforms after next season. If they want a go at the rr uniforms I'll be all for it but I wouldn't mind if they come up with something different. Also, I wouldn't mind if the Islanders have the original fisherman as a third jersey and the Sabres goring back to the goathead full time but with the blue and gold.

[@lihli2103]

Ive always thought Detroit should have done their 2014 winter classic jersey just reversed colors…a cream colored jersey trimmed in the red with the logo being felt…that would be amazing

[@dalesharkey8789]

How about a color-swap jersey? Something where the team uses alternate colors that may or may not have anything to do with the hockey club. For example - St. Louis Blues could do a jersey in St. Louis Cardinals colors. Calgary Flames could do a blue jersey, because actual flames often have a blue hue to them. Seattle Kraken could do jerseys in the color of the Seahawks, and so on and so on....

[@acerock013]

NHL should just do what soccer teams do and have a home, away and 3rd kit. and i think the away kit shouldn't just be a white version of the home kit. actually do different designs to make each jersey unique and different. The new Rangers jersey i got last season is virtually identical to my first jersey when i was 16 in 1994.

[@TheLastLux]

Alternate jerseys will never get old or flood the market, fans will keep buying them as long as they are good. There's endless possibilities where the NHL can go after reverse retro. They could pick a specific decade? 70's, 80's, 90's. if a team wasn't around then, then just make what you think the team would have worn during that time. Have fun with it. Future designs? City pride? Minor league retro, rival colors, color rush etc. it's endless!

[@davekuhn9342]

Fun fact: Conn Smythe changed the team name to maple leafs part way through the 26-27 season, and, for that half a season only, they wore a green maple leaf logo before going blue the next year.

[@comedyspy20]

I would like to see Canucks do their inaugural 1970 jersey in green, or navy blue stick in the rink.

[@otakumusprime7745]

I think they're fun but yeah some teams just don't have a lot of options. Kinda ironic the newest and oldest teams suffer the same issue. Personally I would want to see another round just because I love seeing that old Stars logo. We'll have to see though since the Adidas contract is expiring, so RR 3.0 could just be rereleases from 1 anc 2 just on new jerseys.

[@richardferguson6893]

Anyone who thinks the "V" jersey would look good is probably not old enough to remember how crappy those Canucks teams were and how widely disliked those shirts were.

[@brucegalusha535]

I wish Dallas would at least have a throwback to the sweaters from ‘99. I thought those were the best so far. I didn’t like their current Victory Green but they grew on me.

[@marny129]

If Dallas would go back to that jersey but with their current color scheme I think they would be one of the best in the NHL.

[@zacharygreenleaf1762]

the only one I'm getting is Detroit as a fan of Detroit i love the 75 jerseys on another level I love the jets jersey but they have missed the thrashers, you know the jersey from the last go around did not sell as well but if they did the thrashers now that would sell and i would buy that but that's my option and jets fans might have a different opinion

[@Rockin_Ross]

“They’re going to exhaust the market” is spot on. Collectors will eventually lose interest. Also, when Adidas hits the road next year, the whole apple cart will be overturned for some new ideas from the new company. Great video, Sir!👍🏻

[@chickenfkeryay]

Basically ive noticed this round of reverse retro jerseys peoples placement of these varies way more then round 1. Personally i feel the majority of these are not as good as round 1 although some teams round 2 version is much better (isles) some have great versions for both (blues+kings)

[@SpaceCornet]

Thinking of buying the Columbus rr. I did find some a bit dull. Question from a UK fan what is the difference between fanatatics and the more expensive jerseys?

[@fantasticvoyage262]

The Fanatics are poor quality.

[@AndrewJDJepson]

It could be super tacky, but the jersey fanatic in me would be super stoked to see things like "Colour Blind" or "Future" jersey series' where they get ideas that inspire to break the molds of regular jerseys and make something fun or cool. Then they aren't around for long, the league makes money, collectors like myself have a fun time with more selection... Idk, I would like it

[@michaelhuber3610]

I agree, being a Calgary fan and seeing that they made last years reverse retro a third jersey this year completely kills the point of it being a retro, it’s just a plain old third now. This should be the last iteration

[@ryans413]

I think it be cool too do a remix of the teams logos

[@marvinestupe8627]

Your pick for the calgary one. It's one of the best and makes it top. The colors were flipped. The problem is the yyc calgary fans are just bitter and forget that era

[@carltilleman2701]

I'd like to see a jersey thing where they color swap to another team from the city (Eg, Leafs x Raptors or Blue Jays)

[@jacobdill4499]

Not all of the cities have another major league team. An interesting alternate would be one of the local college team's colors.

[@bjp1920]

Maybe they can do what the NBA or MLB are doing and maybe try a "city" edition. Have the jerseys in the colors that represent the area.

[@AlphaDog0303]

I think we should have special jerseys every year, kind of like the NBA. It keeps fans in the loop and keeps them excited

[@shoeshine2914]

I personally would like it to keep going, but I do think this is the last year. If only because Adidas is leaving, and whoever is supplying jerseys after this will want to put their own stamp on special jersey releases and probably won’t want to continue what Adidas started.

[@PrinceTyke]

I got the first Kings RR, I want the second Kings RR, but that's my second team. The Detroit's first was nonsense, the second got so close but instead of being a retro that is reversed, they changed the white to black. It makes sense that the NHL needs to do something new, but I am really sad about not being able to have a special Detroit jersey that isn't terrible, as I wasn't an adult with money yet when they played their special event games.

[@LIQQWIDRIP]

I know what you mean, I’m considering picking up the RR this year just as a “please do more things, please” and also because I have a hat that would match it well. I’m clearly not particularly excited about it though. And same thing, I had no money when any of the other jerseys came out and now they’re TOO expensive on resale. I did find a 2014 winter classic for a stupid price in a local shop in Lansing but ill be looking for the other winter classic and the centennial for quite a while I suspect.

[@joshuabutterwick3156]

I was really hoping they would of done a Leafs retro reverse of the logo and Jersey they wore in 1992-92

[@TheHeston83]

if Nike takes over as supplier from Adidas i think they could something really cool like Reverse Retro also I think Vegas and Seattle can create awesome jerseys from there history even though it small they can add uniforms based on surrounding or I dare say other teams in the regions

[@Neon002121]

I’ve really enjoyed almost all reverse retros but this is totally true. Too much of a good thing makes it mundane. Lots of the comments say every five years and I think that’s smart.

[@davidschmich3335]

I think the nhl will do something, maybe not reverse retro but some concept every couple of years. A like city edition jersey would honestly be pretty cool

[@captainofgondor1286]

The Leafs wore a white jersey with a green leaf in 1927, their first year as the Maple Leafs.

[@gocanuckurself1]

Had that Calgary jersey as a teenager.

[@michaeldimino2594]

I have Calgary’s 4th, Pittsburgh’s 1st

[@DJFlozone]

I was hoping for a canucks 85-89 style in white or maybe a light cream color. Maybe in 10 years.

[@starwrs3468]

For some reason a lot of people seem to not like having a bunch of jerseys but personally I get so bored when there’s only a few. I’m a flames fan and last year we only had the home and away and I got so damn bored. I really want the NHL to go to the point where every team has 10 different uniforms each year.

[@georgeblair3894]

Never underestimate the NHLs desire to milk their fans for money.

[@nz1606]

I get what you're saying man but honestly as long as these jerseys sell they'll keep making them. So long as the demand is there so too the supply. By the way the Bruins one is pretty sharp this year and I can't wait to buy it when I can.

[@csolivais1979]

I don't think he saying they should stop making them, per se. Just that they need to be something different than a "reverse retro" theme.

[@nz1606]

@@csolivais1979 yeah I get what he's saying.

[@kingdom7777777]

I think the NHL should do another round of jerseys, but every team has to use a brand new logo. They can change or keep their colours if they want, but they need to use a completely new logo. I think it would be almost like a free attempt. If it flops, you wear it a few times and then just move on. But for some teams, I think they could take advantage of it and do some really cool stuff if given the option.

[@BluShinigami]

Next up you do mashup jerseys with other leagues. NHL x NBA, NHL x NFL/CFL

[@5dustball]

It's kind of like the outdoor games. The first few were cool and now you see venue's and teams being recycled cause they play too many of them. Once something works once they feel like they have to over do it to death. Uniforms are getting to this point. It's hard to identify teams cause every game they were different uniforms. For people like me who collects jerseys as well It's cool but the average fan might not have a clue

[@ominousflames14]

My personal take on the Flames RR 2.0 A lot of Flames fans never liked the pedestal in the first place. Many Flames fans never liked the fact that black has become an adopted secondary colour for Calgary teams since the mid 90s. (Stamps/Hitmen/Flames) I don't mind the jersey, but the horizontal stitching in the front that divides the pedestal from the chest is very noticeable. Makes it look cheaper imo. I also love black on red, like you stated, it pops(especially with the white "C"), eventhough the colour scheme is very overused in the NHL. The 03/04 Flames home jersey was one of the most popular jerseys in Canada. (especially during the Stanley Cup run). I would love to see a RR black jersey of that design. A white "C" would really pop on that.

[@fantasticvoyage262]

I loved those. And the flaming horse was on the shoulders. Yet the Flames inexplicably got rid of the pretty mountain landscape on the tail. And put some goofy vertical black stripes or panels on the sides running up into the arms. That was a bad decision. Just stick with the flawless jerseys from the 2004 Stanley Cup run. Those were perfect.

[@nyrmetros]

The New York Rangers just needed to revisit the 1927 or 1933 or 1940 any other great Rangers jersey from the past!!!

[@pierrepellerin249]

NHL found a cash cow, they will milk it until it runs dry. So if there's a market for a reverse retro every year or a 4th jersey or an 8th jersey, they will release them. It's call corporate greed. Today, a small advertising on shirt, soon, a 2nd one on helmet then a 3rd one on pants and so on...

[@TheHeston83]

thats pays for whole party also its likely going to one jersey sponsor like the NBA , all sports teams in the 4 Major Leagues have been funded by owners at there inception , Trust me Elon Musk makes Bettman and every commissioner look like Saints , Musk is hands the worst billionaire and has a cult following 😬

[@spinuck9180]

Wanted to get NYR - RR but the preorder seems to be nearly sold out.

[@PygmySurfer]

I think the mistake was having all 32 teams do these at the same time. Go back to having the teams release alternate jerseys (or not) on their own time frame.

[@cowetascore8476]

Agree. Just get one with new third jerseys. Shouldn't have to go to the past to nitpick what had been among team histories. For some franchises (cough: Islanders) there isn't much beyond the norm.