Explaining why League's game design will never work

[@snowniel]

realistic title: IMAQTPIE COMPLAINS ABOUT LEAGUE FOR 2 MINUTES THEN INTS LANE THEN WINS ANYWAY

[@thomasway0320]

The anger fuels the players, that’s why Riot design the game this way.

[@BenDovahkin]

Do you know what a comma is ? Goddamn

[@1Plebeian]

@@thomasway0320 it's the dark side of the force. With access to powers that many consider, unnatural..

[@michaelolson-kilcullen2467]

It's like a bunch of old men found their train sets from when they were 9 years old and they gather on Thursday nights to watch them do circles around the train tracks

[@G0DAGSM8]

holy shit thats the most accurate shit ever

[@Roflmao6173]

25:20 How to convince your teammate to engage by Imaqtpie: "It really doesn't matter if you die"

[@keianbahmani5005]

"League's game design will never work" - plays game for 12 years straight

[@jessestrickland6893]

The most underated comment ive ever seen

[@doublestarships646]

Lol he hasn't played this game in years.

[@The_Ninja_Tree]

​@@doublestarships646 He hit challenger recently on stream we will never be able to break away from this game.

[@WakoSMURF101]

Im here QT please mark my attendance

[@Arahan96]

ok this month is gonna be lit! daily league videos from the pie? this is perfect

[@Arahan96]

@Proyecto VJ wait you mean League? honestly i would never recommend league to anyone xD

[@andsomecarrot3158]

@Proyecto VJ doesnt hurt to try, if you have friends who play then sure

[@catzor4795]

@Proyecto VJ The game is past its prime. Maybe during season 5-8 I would recommend playing League but now, it's garbage.

[@patrikmacisaac6010]

@Proyecto VJ if you play just by yourself just mute everyone and ull be fine

[@erito9507]

@Proyecto VJ Don't listen to others. Its pretty fun and you should try it. I've been playing since season 3 and as long as you ignore people who rage you will be fine.

[@StellxProductions]

Staying in, fall time, watching a homeless guy play a dogshit game

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Yay

[@demikava6663]

amen brother, diddly dong dingerino

[@emophobe]

Most Riot employees are more worried about getting harassed at work than balance and design

[@Velereonics]

Then who are the idiots they keep putting in those State of the Game vids? Because they seem very invested in the game's design and they also seem to not give one fuck if the changes look awful to like 45% of the community.

[@BigIgloo]

nah they're too ugly to be harassed quite frankly

[@n3onnnn]

@@BigIgloo true Brogan hahaha

[@andrews9695]

for several years now every single video they make about the game has been about champion "Diversity" Rune :"Diversity" Diversity this or that like hell just make the game fun. They think people care more about diversity than the game being actually a good experience to play. If we want a competitive game through and through Dota is 100% better and I don't even play it and I know it's true. The reason league gets more views isn't because the game is better to watch or they have crazy world meta's were zed is op and they are making plays or some bullshit. League gets more views because their are more players because the game is more fun for most people. Riot is trying to get rid of the fun and make it more like Dota but they will never beat Dota in the aspects Dota is good at they only water down the things that makes League good. The first and most important thing League should focus on is making the game fun. Then they can add other goals that supplement this whether it be voice chat or some competitive integrity type things. I also find it ironic Riot has cared more about diversity even before the sexual harrasment things came out. Maybe if they focused on actually making a fun game and promoted and hired people based on there achievements; then maybe the employee's would actually care about being good at their job and focus on that rather than harassing eachother.

[@MrDARKKNIGHT1000]

@@andrews9695 tf are u even saying? XD

[@sgtpatton]

whyd riot give mr pie a freaking leaver penalty

[@benyseus6325]

Cuz the heard what he said about The game’s balance

[@sgtpatton]

@@benyseus6325 sm freaking head theyre nothin but bullies

[@AlcyoneHere]

QT's take about it being just for da resume is funny as hell. "WOW YOU DID THAT ?" im fucking dying ahhaha

[@derechte6086]

Everytime I see a video from qt I roll up a joint and smoke it while watching

[@pedrochagas9903]

The proper way to watch his content

[@derechte6086]

@@pedrochagas9903 amen

[@jonahshriver3358]

the whole club was lookin at herrrr i got him since no one else would

[@Notoriouslydevious]

"Ex Riot Employee: I redesigned the whole league of legends item system Recruiter: WOW! What did you change? Ex-Riot Employee: Absolutely nothing, everything just builds goredrinker."" too true, Pie. Too true.

[@torrin999]

6:55 - 7:01 had me dying lmaoooooooo.

[@dotsinki1096]

riot overloading all items to force a statball meta might be the worst thing to have happend to league bc i think riot believes it was a good change and might continue with overloading everything

[@ZoraDoom]

Fun fact: in riots most recent video about game balance they really do believe that they’re doing the right thing balance wise. They legit do not give a shit anymore. It’s the Blizzard effect.

[@failadin1]

@@ZoraDoom They were doomed as soon as they hired ghostcrawler.

[@mistrsynistr7644]

I mean they will eventually give every item true dmg because who needs health.

[@duckerino5691]

@@mistrsynistr7644 when they added prowlers claw for assassins, i knew the game was doomed because all these insanely immobile assassins really needed that targeted dash active

[@SrMik0]

I wish the league videos were edited like you used to do back in the day.

[@nekki9228]

yeah just noticed that too! I guess doing less editing is a byproduct of being famous since you got your main fanbase that will watch every episode, when he was smaller they had to edit a lot to get more people interested in his channel. I still visit his older vids for inspiration tho, I admire the editor since his first vids :)!

[@chadmcalpha3511]

@@nekki9228 famous?, I think the recent videos has a lot less views because of less edits or generally dont care about the game anymore. Why would he edit more?

[@nekki9228]

@@chadmcalpha3511 To get more views maybe? You can't tell me just because he doesn't care about LoL he is willing to lose tons of views bcs of the lack of editing in his videos. Besides we (and especially I) don't know what's going on behind the scenes and why his editor is putting less effort into these videos. I just stated that if you get a lot of subscribers you literally can just post whole LoL match games and "get away with it" Many content creators either do a second channel for unedited stuff or post it ,like in this case, on their main channel. I still think it's weird to go from top notch editing to this.

[@Insanityltself]

Imaqtpie flaming/calling out Riot is my absolute favorite.

[@SkywardSpork]

I heard Meteos say the exact same argument during a stream probably 3+ years ago and it applies more i think than it did then

[@misaak]

dude the transition at 4:53 was nice

[@harambe1331]

hey qt been watching u for a while i just wanted to say i hope u have a good life im rooting for u man, ur entertaining and an inspiration for me

[@person59523]

Heroes of the storm has a character thats pretty much like the one meteos described, and hes fun af to play. Its all about execution of an idea.

[@Teddy2g]

Bro 13:41 QT proves why he was a pro player 😂

[@Lildoc911]

That was kinda clean NGL.

[@AznSwat]

Imaqtpie: Casually Explaining why League's game design will never work While 2v5 in LoL Me: What?

[@arkarion2589]

Saving flash for next game as always :D Same oid.

[@FellowSunBro]

I mean, the fact of the matter is it did work. This is a game that has enjoyed a massive playerbase for over a decade. Who knows how much longer it WILL work, but it seems to have been working alright for them for the twelve years I've been playing.

[@altide8784]

It could have been a way better experience tho, it was litterally hell many times but you still wanted to play it

[@Biotoze]

Reading chat in the middle of running is classic

[@corbinlee8074]

Vigors on league its gonna be a good one boys

[@malentoasty]

100% agree, the Yuumi ama they did awhile back where their only defense for yuumi’s design was that it was unique showed Riot’s priorities when it comes to champ design.

[@QTTV]

Played Flex Queue, getting matched against the Pie and getting completely destroyed? Not even mad lol

[@thehateshaper6522]

The way qt subtlety highlighted the Nami damage 28:40 and subconsciously prompted chat to compare it to the other carries that were in the game just showcases qts superior goblin intellect and mischief

[@MagicalGirlContractor]

I like how everyone told the yone what to do, didnt do it, then kept groaning as to why he kept dying 😂😂😂

[@mohammedmoufakkir7260]

Hearing vigors voice on imqtpie game after hearing him on buddhas stream on gta V (demon) is soooooo nostalgic fuck i love em

[@llArcanell]

Tomorrow is my birthday too, it would be awesome for a video to come out on my birthday because he hadn't been making these for so long

[@FujiBou]

If it isn't Mr "I'm the cute the pie" Love this guy

[@mystery13board]

every time Vincent hypes Qt from a play he ends up dying

[@philipjubertgonzales6306]

Now we need a duo with Chapanya

[@travisk5046]

Qt had to come back just to grief tyler1 so he doesnt get challenger support

[@Ijnekono]

This is truly The Pie We Missed

[@Postermaestro]

the moves, qt still got it

[@jtcoop40]

*imaqtpie says “veigar”* *twitch TOS sweating profusely*

[@3MAR443]

Waiting for your 17K live views days to comback

[@misfortunecookie]

24:52 LOL

[@EliteGamer3754]

QT IS BACK BABY LETS GOOOOOOOO

[@pablo5716]

Oh lord , the Messiah of League is really back

[@lebronglazer692]

sending in a hail mary ult here

[@BnMProductions11]

Clearly something they do is right. Its been the most or close to the most popular game in the world for over a decade. Something no other game can say

[@JCLB1001]

That might also be because no other MOBA has been able to work, and DOTA is too slow for it to be an "exciting" game, at this point its just about there being no other options for MOBAs other than league.

[@duckerino5691]

easy to get into because all of the mechanics are relatively easy to understand compared to other mobas. Also, riot's marketing is really good.

[@BnMProductions11]

@@duckerino5691 So just like I said, theyre doing something right. Theres no denying the game is fun, its ever changing, for better or worse and it runs properly. Something most other games cant say

[@TheSammiRawr]

Lmao

[@hinemoajoass2506]

He’s back

[@noctao4163]

QT back at it again with the uploads lets goooooooooooooooooooooo

[@vinivaskinho]

I didn't know Vigors played League with QT. Fuckin Yeager, he's everywhere.

[@BeegJack]

Dyrus said one thing the whole game XD, "this game sucks"

[@sibisk]

But the schmovement on 13:50 tho, makin me soil my new pants

[@swagmassa6702]

They have people hardstuck silver balancing items. Crazy

[@OpticalJesu5]

make xayah functional please

[@thomasschupp5147]

thanks for posting!!

[@erme2512]

our lord and saviour educating us plebs

[@ThePavin]

Holy shit Qt and Meteos

[@jeeazywilliams2324]

Lord pie! You a cool dude! I like small cat more than mellow. Small cat is just too cool man!

[@benyseus6325]

That’s like saying: “I like your child A more than your child B”

[@jeeazywilliams2324]

@@benyseus6325 oh well?

[@VyNyLoKo6]

Gotta change glacial, the only rune from inspiration that people actually use lmaoo

[@kharkaroto9486]

I can fill a page of changes that will probably bring the game to a good point to actually start balancing from where it might be possible to start balancing. No one cares though and Riot especially doesn't care. Maybe I'll find some time at some point to write it out and put it on a website.

[@HoldMyBeerPlease]

the most annoyed sounding bunch of boys playin some leauge

[@jamiestocks4064]

Dyrius going nuts in top! Op dude!

[@thekiller4000s]

listening to meteos video, where can i see the full video?

[@zoahzoahzoah]

Can someone explain the TSM Zven background on qtpies PC to me ?

[@onlykens]

13:50 what a god

[@sealsonsaturn]

leblanc is too safe and aggressive at the same time. another reason i quit playing

[@mavriksc]

Would like to see you do the barefoot +yummi build

[@XxAhriman65]

When you look at the community, can't blame them for abandoning ship. If that's the case I mean.

[@MysticBlueFox]

They are a big part as to why the community is the way it is. They are money driven and its obvious and has been obvious for a long time.

[@XxAhriman65]

@@MysticBlueFox A shame they don't take a page out of Manjuu's book on how to treat your community.

[@andrews9695]

I mean if you make a game that has zero or low fun and then make it competitive the community is going to be trash and the people that don't fall into the level of trash the community is in will quit or not play as much because their not having fun.

[@lilbake1233]

ngl qt movement kinda 🔥

[@ThumbsHunter]

calling insec a lee onetrick >keklmao.

[@kakkashi21999]

He immediately said “not one trick” right after

[@NateTheScot]

Holy shit people actually still play league? Amazing!

[@hvirdberg8532]

what gave it away?

[@rail5575]

dyrus just does not care anymore lmao

[@thepd5445]

Why's the volume so low? i have to crank it up all the way to 76% volume level , where my usual is 40% or less =(

[@thepd5445]

Like the intro is supper loud but the volume of the speakers are so low

[@saadboukili5028]

all the NA content creators are leaving and the EU ones are coming in.

[@dendi9883]

Good

[@tomtigr5177]

Pog Meteos and QT

[@bundung123]

The pie is back Pausechamp

[@alecsenior]

qt you're the freakin' best

[@Zeldagirlartist]

Are we not gonna talk about how smooth the transition at 4:54 was

[@confleyz5315]

They really never looked at other mobas and asked themselved how games like dota 2 change a lot every patch without breaking anything and even if something were to be broken in the new patch it gets fixed asap

[@bitbat9]

Riot employees can go from sexually harassing people at Rio to sexually harassing people at Blizzard!!!

[@Merlin0fCamelot]

They should steal some of the Rust devs to make their game "better". lol

[@HazalAlenazi]

17:40 lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao

[@lukamagicc]

Okay but where is the part in the title..

[@RoastedPheasant]

Riot Jag removed aatrox from the game and made Kai'sa and Camille so functionally overpowered that they HAD to be competitively viable. Riot looked at those pick rates and went "wow people must really like these new designs!" instead of going "wow these broken characters are fucking stupid and have forced people to pick them to win." Then they made RiotJag the lead champ designer. We'll never HAVE classic league of legends back because the people in charge at Riot don't give a shit about league of legends. They're here to pad resumes and network.

[@catzor4795]

All the good devs that made League great in the past left last March.

[@askingwhyisfree7436]

RUNES REFORGED AND ITEM REWORK ARE THE REASONS WHY LEAGUE IS TRASH NOW. CRINGE GAME DESIGNERS.

[@Malborrio]

QT is back again, rolling his Lucian on those Vayne, nature is healing again

[@thecakeisalie8135]

league reworks are led by the industry's bottom-of-the-barrel types padding their resumes at Riot before making a lateral move to higher paying jobs elsewhere. They've got to hire veterans to undo all of these new nonsensical changes and just revert to the tried and true while only allowing innovations that don't change the games fundamentals. company's like Riot are so afraid of falling behind their competitors that they're willing to accept any and every innovation, ignorant of or turning a blind eye to the cons of adopting unwanted new changes.

[@andrews9695]

litterally every single time Riot makes a video talking about changes they make their always talking about "Diversity" I don't care if it's diverse just make it fun. The only thing League has over Dota is that it's a game that's more fun and easier to get into and yet if they're going out of their way to to get rid of the fun to try and make it more like Dota and yet if we look poorly at competitive attributes of the game Dota is way better. Riot also seems to think they get more viewership than Dota because they make 4fun nice viewing experiences for worlds by making champs like lee sin and zed op for worlds. But the only reason they get more viewers than Dota is also because their are many times more players than Dota because the game is more fun. So Riot should be focusing a lot more on making the game fun first as the main priority than viewing experience and competitive intergrity can come in. Even if the game doesn't have a lot of competitive integrity and the viewing experience is terrible if the game is fun and a lot of people play the game a lot of people would still watch the competitive games.

[@Velereonics]

MR tank Yone still able to 1v1 people and kill them

[@peterilinkovich6547]

I missed the best riot basher. Keep going qt love your vids

[@williamcrosby1061]

League of legends will be in the next Olympics but what ever.

[@YouReyKarr]

That first take is bs, Riot aren't doing anything new or creative.

[@parkerverde]

thanks for giving me an opportunity to fulfill my desire to watch a homeless man complain and lazily play games and mumble for 30 minutes

[@PongzeLor]

Who is Viggs playing?

[@oven88]

michael get morello to do his thing in c++ like the madmang he is and give his fruits attention

[@novaivan16]

i remember ashe w gave passive gold.....

[@mommie5213]

It was E

[@jordanharris-scrivener5693]

@5:15 what you mean by that ? 🤔🤔

[@donions3930]

Oh brother not this duo partner 🥱

[@andrews9695]

litterally every single time Riot makes a video talking about changes they make their always talking about "Diversity" I don't care if it's diverse just make it fun. The only thing League has over Dota is that it's a game that's more fun and easier to get into and yet if they're going out of their way to to get rid of the fun to try and make it more like Dota and yet if we look poorly at competitive attributes of the game Dota is way better. Riot also seems to think they get more viewership than Dota because they make 4fun nice viewing experiences for worlds by making champs like lee sin and zed op for worlds. But the only reason they get more viewers than Dota is also because their are many times more players than Dota because the game is more fun. So Riot should be focusing a lot more on making the game fun first as the main priority than viewing experience and competitive intergrity can come in. Even if the game doesn't have a lot of competitive integrity and the viewing experience is terrible if the game is fun and a lot of people play the game a lot of people would still watch the competitive games.

[@DinoMan_6]

They’re making it too flashy…

[@PongzeLor]

Jokes on you i dont know which items are good

[@BuzzKora]

15:45 pental stealers xd worth a report