Subs vs. Dubs: My Hero Academia Season 1 [Part 2]

[@phoenixking62]

I honestly think you're looking too hard into these translations. Just because you're finding meaning in subtle word choice does not mean that meaning was intentional. *Translators are not writers* and that's where I think I find the core flaw in your arguments for the dub. You can enjoy finding the *meanings* in the stuff they say but honestly I just don't think any of it matters. Horikoshi *is* a writer, so the specific word choice *does* matter, and your analysis of it is interesting. That is my disorganized 2 cents.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

"[You're] finding meaning in subtle word choice[.]" That's all that matters. I don't care about anything else.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

BUT my pretentious comment about personal satisfaction doesn't actually address what you're saying, so here's a real argument: Why are translators not writers? I am (probably) never going to be able to read Horikoshi's work. The only way I'm ever going to experience the story of MHA is through the work of translators. Their decisions color how I interpret the story and its characters. Why are those decisions not worthy of analysis? Why is the effect that a translated work has on me somehow less worthy of study than the effect that an untranslated one could have?

[@siphillis]

Also ties nicely into your argument that the sub and dub are different works. Subtle differences are still differences that affect how, and how well, the show can appeal to its intended audiences. Personally speaking, I'd be less inclined to follow this show if Izuku was represented as the immature, delusional wannabe with no actual work-ethic or direction in the sub, rather than the focussed, determined character in the dub. The disparity between a character you pity, and one that legitimately inspires you, is substantial.

[@phoenixking62]

I'm not arguing worth, I'm arguing authenticity. You say that you're probably going to never read his works, but that doesn't mean you can never understand the Japanese words that are used. I've honestly not been watching anime that long (well, 3-4 years so depends on who you ask I guess) but since I've been watching it subbed, without even really studying the language at all, there are quite a few subtleties of things that you can hear being said in Japanese even while the text is being displayed on the bottom. I don't know what every word mean, but I still have an understanding of what is being said beyond the basics. As to "why are translators not writers?" my opinion here is pretty simple. A translators job is to find the best word-for-word match between the words in one language and another. Their job is not to make a story of their own or really create anything, but to recreate something to the best of their ability in another language. Now, of course, I could be wrong. There could be some literary genius over at Crunchyroll or wherever trying to actively make these changes and purposefully altering another authors personal works because the translator thinks he could do a better job than Horikoshi and has no respect for the original story... but hope that's not the case and doubt it is. Now you're right, all that really matters is weather or not you enjoy the analysis and story itself, but I'm just saying that I think allot of what you're seeing just isn't there, and many of the analyses are just stretches. But if you disagree then that is your prerogative and I'm not going to try and stop you from holding that opinion. In all honesty, I'm probably biased due to personal invested interests in the general concept of holding texts over translated texts in terms of importance, so I doubt we'll see eye to eye on this. P.S. Yay! Sempai noticed me!

[@Yal_Rathol]

actually, translators ARE writers, they have to be, because there are words, concepts and phrases that exist in one language that simply don't exist in another. for example, "deku means useless and also never give up". not in english it doesn't, in english it means "those plant things from legend of zelda". how about "dattebayo"? that word doesn't mean anything in english, but naruto says it constantly, so the translators had to give him a new catchphrase that fits the character, makes sense and hopefully doesn't require too much work changing the lip syncing. hence, they came up with "believe it". and remember, subs are ALSO translations, they aren't the same as the original japanese, because words in Japanese don't always translate. how often do you see characters say something, everyone reacts like they said something completely different and the moment is played for laughs? japanese isn't constructed the way english is, so those puns don't translate and new jokes have to be written for the english dub for the scene to work. translators are writers. they're not the original writer, but they're the only way most of us will be able to enjoy anime, so we take what we can get.

[@Keanehandiam]

JDeku: "You looked like you were asking for help...", honestly made me think that it made Bakugou realize that someone else saw his fear. He had to deal with the idea that he didn't have it all together.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

Huh. Never thought of it like that. Good catch!

[@Keanehandiam]

I mean, how would you feel knowing that the person you despise the most is not only saving you, but also acknowledging the fear that you tried to force down? How many others must've seen it as well? If this insignificant piece of garbage can see my insecurities then who else could've seen? Deku is living evidence of his faltering and his failures. EDeku: "I couldn't just sit there and watch you die," Implies that not only did he see that he was struggling, but that he didn't believe in Bakugou's abilities to come out of the situation with his life in-tact. As you said "The one thing that Bakugou prides himself on is his combat ability".(Not an exact quote) To have someone who is beneath him feel the need to help due to noticing his lack of ability is not only insulting, but terrifying.

[@RyogaEchizen]

nicuu

[@woah5333]

I find it less insulting from bakugou persepective for the dub because going to die probably isn't bakugou's main concern. It's the fact that he is getting trapped and can't get out of it by himself. Doesn't matter if the result is death or just injury, the fact that he isn't capable of getting out himself and he needs to ask for help (from a nobody) is a sign of weakness. The line "You looked like you were asking for help." pinpointed his insecurity much better than "I can't watch you die." imo. "I can't watch you die" is more personal and (maybe) implies a bond having been built between them. There are pronouns in the same sentence, so it sounds like this thing is about two people, both deku and bakugou. Means that if it wasn't bakugou he probably wouldn't have helped. It didn't imply much about hierarchy. It's more about deku being dare to caring about him. But in the sub it's just "you", Bakugou. It means this is only about him asking for help. It's not because deku cares about him. It's because Bakugou is asking for help. This upsets his value of hierarchy much better imo. Dub probably works better only in a context with bakugou hating deku not because he's inferior but because he's clingy and he doesn't want anything to do with him.

[@Boxygirl96]

@sleepysloth deku is rather clingy isn't he, even bordering on stalker-ish as they grow older, if in a more subdued manner in comparison with their youth. That coupled with everyone around them adamantly placing them at opposite ends of the hierarchy drove a wedge between their childhood friendship, which is why their relationship has always felt more like a falling out than legitimate hatred. One of the main reasons bakugo started resenting deku was because Izuku, despite his position in the hierarchy, offered bakugo help and showed concern for his wellbeing despite society's apparent consensus that the strong don't need help, a societal view most jarringly apparent when after a traumatic experience a child perceived as being strong receives no apparent medical attention as a victim and is instead praised for his bravery and assumed to become a powerful hero in the future. That's not how you should be treating a trauma victim, he just spent minutes futilely fighting for his life in front of a crowd of passive onlookers, including a number of pro heroes who more or less just watched as he suffocated at the hands of a villain whom his 'amazing' quirk was completely worthless against, a villain who was trying to suffocate him with the intent of then invading his corpse and wearing it like a meat suit, a villain who may or may not have been actively trying to force his liquid body down the fully conscious child's throat. How much do you want to bet he had nightmares about that day for months to come? Even a grown adult would probably have been traumatized by that, imagine the impact on a still developing child? It's even theorized that that event is likely the reason bakugo doesn't wear a tie with his school uniform, because he most likely has at least some degree of PTSD and having that tie around his neck can be triggering, it's also likely the reason why he doesn't keep his shirt fully buttoned either. Anyways, I digress, my point is that their issues seem to be a symptom of their environment, it's hard to learn certain social skills in an environment that dysfunctional and skewed, which is in part why bakugo changes so much as they enter the elite high school that is UA, and I think one thing a lot of western viewers overlook is the pacing of the show so far, they've only been in school about 3 months by the time summer vacation comes around in season 3, Japan starts the school year in spring rather than fall, thus their summer break is the equivalent of our winter break, not the end of a school year but merely an intermission

[@roleplaychic7081]

"Watching this kid feels like somebody inverted Sasuke, doused him in lemon juice, and shoved him into my open wounds." This may be my favorite description of Bakugou ever because it perfectly reflects how I felt watching him.

[@skynewton6959]

Yes this is a perfect description of how felt about that dumpster fire

[@udayveerbhadauria1659]

I still don't understand why he's a fan favorite. BakuBitch seriously needs to be slapped around or something by Izuku at some point.

[@Crowstrove]

I just liked that fact that lemons were included

[@Curious-Artist-Cat]

Same

[@robsonclark9678]

@@udayveerbhadauria1659 ya I was shocked when I read a bit if the manga waiting gor the next season, and saw the creator post a fan poll results for fav character with him at either top or right near it. And I couldnt comprehend that hah.

[@cinnothycinjamin3481]

Katsuki "King angry boom boom mc suppressed homosexual tendencies" Bakugou

[@kibaliziosa483]

Thanks, I didn't catch all that XD

[@xxchesire_catxx8176]

I died when I heard that XD

[@felixrivera895]

I mean the only person Bakugo likes is this dude who runs around shirtless and shows off all his muscles and happens to have this weird fixation being a friend to Bakugo. And Kachan got jealous that one time. I swear Kirishima and Bakugo are going to be a thing eventually.

[@sans-oz7er]

“And then here’s quirkles,worthless,defenceless,weak,fuckable deku” hol up Edit: I feel like a fucking idiot since THE NEXT TOP comment is what I Typed

[@im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username]

2:29 "overcome with ease" *Bakugo holds up a sign full of the letter E* I forgot how much I fucking loved you

[@vorlianth]

I know right

[@drakeford3238]

It's a clusterfuck, but a clever clusterfuck.

[@kaine7672]

I dont get it, where is it?

[@im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username]

2:29

[@TonyGamer50]

2:34, not 2:29

[@trentongm]

"fuckable Deku" had me howling.

[@blarg2429]

Heh. I'm sure he did. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@isaacsanchez5922]

That and "an asshole on a mission" had me cracking up way to much

[@nutmegdragon]

As a translator myself, I really appreciated this in depth look into the differences between translations. Translators often have a very thankless task. Our job is to be invisible. Be faithful to the original meaning (bonus points if the original version is vague and that vagueness cannot be properly translated due to linguistic norms), make it accessible to the new audience, and try to make it sound natural. It's not easy, and the hard truth is that when you translate something, you are creating something distinct from the original. You did a wonderful job of showing some of these changes in these videos. I salute you, my good sir!

[@Ozzieeeeeee]

also some subbed lines in anime do not make sense at all and would sound weird hearing it in english

[@zyaicob]

​@@Ozzieeeeeeeliterally my favourite joke in the show is so specific to the Japanese. Not even the sub, the Japanese. It makes me wonder how translators approach the problem of translating wordplay. I haven't even watched the dub yet but I'm not looking forward to the English version of All Might's "watagashi kida" joke which has me rolling in Japanese but seems untranslatable

[@Ozzieeeeeee]

@@zyaicob yeah I’m not familiar with that joke as I watched the dub so I’m assuming the translators either replaced the joke with something else or just completely scrapped it since there was no way to translate it

[@Ozzieeeeeee]

@@zyaicob do you remember which episode or season it was in and maybe I can remember

[@zyaicob]

@@Ozzieeeeeee season 5 episode 19

[@wills5945]

“Heroica” fucking gold 😉

[@KainYusanagi]

Not even. It was "Heroca". There was no I. ;_;

[@croaksplosion5076]

You mean that LEGO series right?

[@Waghabond]

later -> AcoHera. I came for copper but i found gold

[@JamesCPotter13]

Technically Heroaca but I see your point

[@readthis5796]

“Angry boom-boom McSurpressed homosexual tendencies” this is why i love you

[@zachc1164]

KZbin: Explanation Point has uploaded a new video! Me: **gasps in 3 weeks late**

[@B3N_Youtube]

Velvet Purple How is that funny? I'm saying that as I somehow laughed my ass off to it.

[@asterisk4540]

It’s at 665 likes I can’t I’m Catholic

[@kendallgeary5665]

"J-Angry Boom Boom Mixed Suppressed Homosexual Tendencies" yes, this is definitely the enraged bomb boy's name

[@kibaliziosa483]

It's at 5:23 if someone is wondering

[@SaturnsMysteriousEye]

I never thought about it before this video but now I totally buy that Bakugo's aggressive treatment of Deku is a result of repressing his sexual feelings towards him.

[@milkboy2228]

Ive always felt the line of deku saying he looked like he was asking for help was more hard hitting. Not only did it show that bakugou himself had such a look, but that deku wasnt personal about saving him, meaning in a way, hes in no way special, just a standard victim, totally helpless.

[@matthewlugo2417]

This is correct, a real hero just doesnt save certain important ppl they risk theyre lives to save anyone so jdekus words mean even if it wasnt bakugo he woulda risked his life to save that person cause thats what makes a true hero "selflessness "

[@megamonmon]

I don't know why but I feel there is some gay subtext in this video...

[@merric4754]

I always knew there was something queer about ExPoint.

[@silvialima3004]

Whaat? Where did you see thaaat? Couldn't have been at 1:36 or 8:14 and much less 12:32 right??

[@blueberrymuffin722]

And a 5:05 when he calls him a homosexual

[@elizabethgatsby3442]

Or at 7:41

[@pedroscoponi4905]

Nah, you're just being paranoid, everything is 1000% manly and straight around these parts :^)

[@BetaXeeta]

HOLY SHIT THAT MIC UPGRADE

[@alizado4011]

“Gasping in Japanese” lol

[@magi9194]

Hm, I don't know why, but I think Bryant is trying to say Bakugo is gay.

[@thereaIitsybitsyspider]

I'll ship it

[@_Yohanan]

Because nowadays everything has to be about romantic or sexual attraction, there's no longer the possibility of any other kind of element in a relationship besides that. Friendship? Never heard of her. Jealousy? Who's that? Resentment? Couldn't see him if he was right in front of me. Basically people are getting lost in their own fantasies and want to ship anything that moves with every other thing that moves. But maybe that's just my *TRIGGERED* opinion.

[@riley8385]

*Because nowadays people tend to use this things called jokes that some other people don't understand and take at face value. There, that's better.

[@_Yohanan]

Oh yeah, that totally speaks for 100% of all people, it's not like I've literally spoke to people in real life who were actually seriously speaking, nope, it's all for the memes, all but a joke. Also, what's so funny about implying a character's gay, what's the joke there? If I had to bet, I'm pretty sure Explanation Point wasn't joking and actually believes his claims, but obviously, I might be wrong.

[@Flowtail]

Akaneki You know I was thinking of the same thing--I still find it funny, but it's a good question. I suppose to me it's funny because it contrasts with how he characterizes Midoryia--implying that Bakugou is way more obsessed with Midoryia than the other way around. But that might just be a speculative defense, so who knows?

[@apristorm]

“Also, I did notice that a lot of you in the comments took issue with the way I said Hero Aca a lot in my last video. Don’t worry, I fixed it. Bakugou’s main purpose in Heroica-” I was drawing and the moment I heard “heroica” I snorted so hard a drew a big line on my page. Thanks.

[@d_wang9836]

*Says in a stoned voice* Duuude, how many layers of photoshop are your videos on

[@anthonyhiebert8491]

All of them

[@opencabinets]

HonesTly

[@patrickhill2595]

No seriously, this is a legitimate question.

[@jamescrenshaw6349]

I don’t mean to be that guy but it averages to about 8-10 layers each point

[@dohickey7184]

Like 5 or 6 right now my dude

[@LordMoldyButt18]

Comments: Dont say Hero Aca anymore!!!!!! E-Point: You got it, guys. I wont say it anymore.... Also E-Point: Heroica. AcoHera

[@tovekauppi1616]

LordMoldyButt18 it’s the Miranda Sings approach to negativity from commenters. Instead of trying to actually do what the commenter wants, you draw more attention to the thing they didn’t like by making it worse. Personally, I think it’s a pretty good way of dealing with it, at least so far. Also, people who complain about heroaca don’t seem to realise that it’s an official short form.

[@bm631]

LordMoldyButt18 The best

[@dodg3thestorm]

What a name

[@asdergold1]

Those seem like pairing names... Ugh.

[@javonthomas8428]

I love how petty he is😂😂

[@dusty2366]

I can't imagine what your pictures folder must look like when your making a video

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

It really feels like Japanese culture is much harsher than American culture. In the sub, it's a really angry guy fighting an uncaring world. In the dub, it's two soon-to-be rivals, just that one is an underdog. Tells me a lot about the two different cultures.

[@ojisankusai]

Well, just think about it: Traditional shounen stereotypes tend to play out much in the way the English dub is presenting the two characters. What makes people so intensely loyal to the subbed version is the fact that it, somewhat, subverts the rivalry trope to pave the way to something a little deeper in meaning. Horikoshi was to have stated that BnHA was created by infusing it with undiluted optimism due to his unbearable depression after his last few attempts at manga were cancelled (one was really good too, Oumagadoki Doubutsuen (there's even a strong cameo in BnHA from this manga; it'll be obvious)). Because of his attempt at making *all* the main characters optimistic, Bakugo sticks out like a sore thumb, or a nail to be hammered back into place. Obviously, a lot of that optimism has been challenged dramatically, but ultimately it still prevails - however, we never really see this coming from Bakugo. Now, I believe the reasons behind that are many: editorialization, an author's change of mind, other outside influences, etc. But ultimately I believe we will see in the next season how Bakugo fits into this mold of hotly optimistic students. We see Bakugo with unlimited optimism/self-esteem at the beginning, but Midoriya - every step of the way - seems to unintentionally rattle, or even outright *crush* , Bakugo's self-esteem and optimism (how many times have I used that word now? Like, 100?). The whole Bakugo v. Midoriya structure seems to be totally backwards in that instead of inspiring optimism in a person, Midoriya is taking it away piece by piece. Contrasting that with the English version and we can see why such a huge difference in this tone is important to the overall structure of the narrative. By just making Bakugo out to be Midoriya's rival, we lose the aspects of the relationship that will undoubtedly be a catalyst for something further down the line. This is, I believe, primarily due to two reasons: the one I mentioned at the start - that it's just how shounen JUMP anime have been since *forever* - and the fact that the dub team probably doesn't have either the full picture to draw reference from, or just lack of knowledge on the whys and hows of where BnHA stemmed from in the first place. I don't think necessarily that the dubbing team is wholly responsible for the vast differences in presenting Bakugo v. Midoriya, but rather they may simply be under the impression that Bakugo will basically be another Uchiha Sasuke: Overpowered, obnoxious, chip-on-the-shoulder rival character that will eventually be in direct conflict with the protagonist; which isn't really a bad gut instinct, but taking how the Japanese version is going as well as what Horikoshi, himself, wants to convey, this doesn't really seem to be where this relationship goes - especially when considering the team-up exam at the end of the second season. EDIT: There's also the issue of simul-dubbing the show, which poses all sorts of issues into the contextual depths of translating Japanese -> English and vice versa.

[@ionastewart8814]

euclid crash Your comment deserves waaaay more likes, man. That's some A+ analysis right there.

[@hariman7727]

Euclid Crash: Bravo! Take a thumbs up for such an excellent analysis of the character dynamics! The only thing I can add is that, while Deku takes the confidence away from Bakugo, Bakugo gains a drive to keep ahead, and keep up with Deku's improvements. That drive not only comes from Deku, but also the other students who are BETTER than Bakugo from the start. Which leads to the tripartite rivalry between Izuku, Bakugo, and Shota. Plus, Bakugo is also willing to recognize/accept that other characters AREN'T weaklings, as shown by his match with Uraraka, and the line afterwards where he says "What part of her was frail?!" EVERYBODY has depth, including Bakugo, but the translation loses that. That, sadly, is why I prefer subs over dubs. Translators aren't linguists or cultural experts. They also don't always have the time to analyze details like this. So dubs often lack context, nuance, and even the intent of the original. Oh, also: There's also too many cases where the dubs are just intolerable to listen to, while the subs are more tolerable. The ONLY exceptions I can think of are Goku's Dragon Ball Super voice, which is very high pitched and grating in Japanese. Cowboy Bebop, which is both superlative dubbing AND heavily western in the first place, and maybe a few others.

[@VPT2]

Herman Cillo i think the worst dub lines i've heard are the things Allmight says, in particular what he says to Nomu "A hero can always break out of a pinch" vs the english "a hero can always find a way for justice to be served" what the fuck? Why would Almight say that when it has nothing to do with the situation, that line belongs in a court room.

[@robinthrush9672]

Herman Cillo, Bakugo acknowledged Uraka's strength in a really subtle way in the dub. It's established that he thinks so little of his classmates that he doesn't bother remembering their names (or chooses to pretend he doesn't), but after she proved herself to him he called her by her name when before it was "blushing girl" or something to the effect. VPT2, The persona of All Might is an extremely large ham in the dub fixated on inspiring others. Given the clear American-centric nature of his character (colors, move names, blonde, blue eyed, tall, and tan) and inspiration from Superman, it serves as both a reference and an ideal in the American psyche, where Funimation is located. Yeah, the dub doesn't have all the cultural references of the sub, but it has other cultural references to adjust and create meaning intuitively without research being needed.

[@timothymclean]

All these points keep trying into Deku's name sooner or later. I can't help but wonder how much of the changes came as a distant side effect of that wordplay not remotely working in English.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

That absolutely had a lot to do with it. I read an interesting comment on the previous video where somebody suggested that they should've called Deku "Tryhard" in the dub. Obviously, dubbers don't want to change that much, but it might've made things a little more consistent between versions if they'd gone that route. (Not that I think inter-version consistency is something we should be striving for when it comes at the cost of having two independently great products)

[@izukumidoriyaisssss3049]

Explanation Point well I've never watched the sub but I have read the manga and in the manga that "kacchan I couldn't just stand there and watch you die" and "you looked like you were asking for help" was different again in the manga it was "you looked like you needed saving" yeah I don't get why it's different between all three but it is

[@timothymclean]

Explanation Point "Tryhard" is an interesting name. Of course, it has its own set of implications. "Trying hard" and "Do your best" are pretty similar, but "Tryhard" and "Useless" are not. One implies that Deku is useless and will always be, while the other implies that...well, I'm not involved in any community which uses that word unironically, but I'm pretty sure it means something closer to "works too hard for too little benefit". "Deku" criticizes J-Midoriya's inability, while "Tryhard" would criticize E-Midoriya's attempts to change his lot in life. One mocks him for his (allegedly_ predestined place in life, the other for not just accepting said place. That would lead to its own series of tweaks required to make the dynamic between Midoriya and Bakugo fit in with that. It's still an interesting idea, mind, and probably the best way to make a Deku-like wordplay with the English language, but it wouldn't keep MHA from inspiring a series of Subs vs. Dubs videos.

[@PoolNoodleGundam]

Boy, you REALLY cranked up the homoerotic subtext on this one, didn't ya'.

[@TheBaldingPied]

Cranked it up so high that it's not even a subtext anymore.

[@AngelCruz-op8mn]

The Great Me-sama it's the main point of the video ahah.

[@matthewmay1516]

"Self Proclaimed Lord Of The Ass Blasters"- Explanation Point 2017

[@MrDj232]

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[@nikoberry4147]

Bakugo isn't afraid of his homosexuality, but he is very afraid of being a bottom.

[@Zdenek1023]

Hahaha

[@miisoma]

☠️ bruh, no

[@silvialima3004]

"Even the worst of shounen anime..." (picture of Black Clover shows up) ExPoint, sir, YOU'RE A *S A V A G E*

[@pollertry4003]

GOTTEM

[@Tactavious]

So glad he did that. Can't stand that anime.

[@edmg7]

...but...he's not wrong

[@benpeterson4673]

STOP SHOUTING ASTA!!! YOUR VOICE IS AWFUL!!!

[@dracocrusher]

Treasure this moment because, at least for now, the internet has been united in hating something that isn't SAO. Buutttt as soon as the new season of SAO comes out, people will probably go right back to it anyways, lol.

[@Thunder-Sky]

I absolutely love how you handled the criticism towards the use of HeroAca, you wonderful fudanshi.

[@debrachambers1304]

Fudanshi?

[@ConvincingPeople]

I mean, at least Bakugo has good taste. Deku is moe as hell.

[@macrux152__8]

ConvincingPeople Which adding Uraraka woulf make them moe as hell squared, adding Hatsume Mei would make it moe as hell weirded up, and adding Himiko Toga would make *swallows saliva moe as hell with raep. "Chiba Toushiro Hero aca" Look it up at your risk.

[@JackClockerinos]

He is.

[@Crowstrove]

macrux152 __ No please...

[@unholydiver1095]

11:20 *GASPING IN JAPANESE* Dude the way your vids are edited are priceless. Props to you (and/or whoever helps you edit)

[@megamonmon]

Where does that pronounciation of boku no Pico macadamia fall on the morality scale?

[@opencabinets]

megamonmon chaotic evil

[@lovelyaristotle4983]

That secret point on the scale labeled 'pure darkness of eternal suffering and evil'

[@macrux152__8]

Right next to "King Angry boom boom mc suppressed homosexual tendecies"

[@miisoma]

maca-aca

[@mithrawnudo2152]

"I see a lot of you got upset at me saying 'Hero Aca' but don't worry I fixed it." "In Heroica..." I die. Ha ha ha ha ha!

[@tuxedoninja2365]

Gasping in Japanese, I'm dying

[@arwanrhys5186]

Wasn't that perfect?

[@bleachbleachBLEACHER]

"J-Bakugo has made up his mind not to care about anything J-Deku does because J-Deku isn't worthy of his attention." And this is exactly what confuses me so much about his character. Bakugo calls Deku a 'pebble on the side of the road,' implying that he is so insignificant he doesn't even need to pay attention to him. But in spite of that, pretty much all he ever seems to do is pay attention to him. It might have made more sense if his ragging on Deku only started once he was accepted into U.A., or after seeing his Quirk for the first time, but the fact that Bakugo has been constantly and viciously putting Deku down since childhood simply doesn't fit into this view he claims to have of Deku being a pebble. If Deku really were that insignificant to him, Bakugo shouldn't have to keep reminding himself that that is the case, and his consistent bullying would just be considered a waste of his time and energy. The more he tells himself that Deku is just a pebble, the less convincing it is that he actually believes that. So for some reason, ever since they were children, Bakugo has had this clear insecurity surrounding Deku and his attempts to become a hero. But I honestly can't seem to wrap my head around what that insecurity actually is. The earliest hint we have is the flashback to when Bakugo falls in the river and Deku tries to help him, and yet I can't seem to think of this as 'enough' of a stimulus to cause Bakugo's attitude towards Deku from then on. In a series chock-full of intricate and realistic character building, this is the one thing I have yet to comprehend.

[@Miranda-ph5dt]

bleachbleachBLEACHER i think it's a matter of bakugo wants to ignore deku, but deku's actions make it impossible. he can try and beat the joy of living out of deku and finally silence him, but he never will because Plucky Underdog Main Character Syndrome. the reason that deku's actions upset baku is that he is objectively a better person than he is, which challenges baku's place at the top of his own narcissistic pyramid just by existing. until the threat (deku's existence) is eliminated, baku can't rest. he's sleeping with one eye open with regards to the deku situation, as it were. going from the king of the universe to being dethroned by, well, deku, is the most violent paradigm shift he could experience, and because it would affect him so badly, he refuses to acknowledge deku, while still being obsessed with him and his progress. as well, it may be a challenge to him: every other weakling, even his parents and M.S teachers, told him he was the best, and deferred to his superiority completely. but deku refuses baku's demands (giving up on hero business) and it becomes a game of super-powered chicken that neither will back down from.

[@ayal92]

He probably wants to ignore him, but Deku insisting in wanting to be a hero makes it impossible. For Bakugou, Deku persevering in that goal means Deku, the quirkless, defenceless, worthless, fuckable pebble on the road thinks he can be equal or superior to him, Supreme King of Assblasters, and Bakugou's huge but fragile ego can't take that.

[@LiftedStarfish]

bleachbleachBLEACHER tl;dr

[@bleachbleachBLEACHER]

LiftedStarfish - Bakugo contradicts himself a lot, and it confuses me.

[@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick]

bleachbleachBLEACHER Which is why the dub is better, God Bless America.

[@TheSharpoint1]

I love this show, Hera my Aco

[@Pablo360able]

I thought it was pronounced Akihabara

[@tyriquesmith8850]

I really want this series back. I love this so much.

[@legoman7041]

The other aspect of the line is that the dub implies he was driven to action because of his friends death, while the sub implies a much more heroic quality on Deku's part by helping those who ask for it. Not saying one is better than the other but they do have different meanings.

[@cross172]

One minor detail that’s changed between the translations is the original meaning behind the nickname “Deku”. In Japanese, the word “deku” is an insult which refers to someone who can’t do or achieve anything. In English, it’s implied that “Deku” is a contraction of “Defenseless Izuku”. So despite using the same nickname, - J-Bakugo is calling “Useless”. - E-Bakugo is calling him “Powerless”.

[@midnightssun8495]

*Gasp* JESUS HAS POSTED

[@666kenrino]

no mother basment has not posted anything today

[@JacksonJinn]

That's the pope. Expla is our Risen Lord and Savior of anime, born a humble carpenter (of content) who will unite the Anime world.

[@Roguerobin4]

Not Jesus, just our immortal Demigod. Much more important.

[@Odinsday]

*Palpitates in Polish*

[@raptorkid7477]

Kawaii Kitten Lol we have the same name

[@cooldude56g]

*"Acknowledges" his pronounciation of Hero Academia is weird* *proceeds to butcher it even more to a slightly worse degree every time it's mentioned.* *sigh* "When will people learn not to tell people what to do over the internet."

[@Boxygirl96]

Personally I liked hero aca

[@Crowstrove]

Izaya Orihara Yeah.

[@playerguy2]

I'll see myself out, but before I do: Great video; In my (humble but apparently shit.. (?)) opinion you hit and are maintaining a great balance between comedy and seriousness while also explaining very well a controversial (apparently) view of My hero 'aca'. All the while having a presentation style that allows you to have visual aids that help you while talking as fast as you are, instead of detracting from it. Great job!

[@playerguy2]

also: how's monetization? I've heard you can't swear since.. long ago. Have you just given up?

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

Never had a problem with it!

[@elcour]

*gets notification that Senpai has posted* me: but i dont have a lot of data left on my phone me to me: it's subs v dubs *AGGRESSIVELY KZbinS*

[@elcour]

SENPAI HEARTED ME

[@captain205]

"A lot of you had problem with the way I said "Hero Aca" in my last video." "___ in Heroica" Killed me. Absolutely floored me.

[@mdudegamer]

I picked up on the lack of "you looked like you needed saving" in the dub right away. It does change things quite a bit. Also, the whole name meaning difference.

[@Orikron]

*This* is a HeroAca video.

[@luk4aaaa]

HeroBaka I’ll leave

[@NomastiAfricanWarlord]

*This* is pod racing!

[@crocidile90]

*THIS IS SPARTA*

[@conducktorwhirlwarstartera5055]

*THIS AM SPARTICUS!*

[@CaturDe]

*AcaHero

[@libraric7212]

Don't mean to seem like a shipper but when the show first started airing the opening with them facing eachother by the sakura trees felt super gay

[@WorldTree33]

I found a HeroAca crack video with that scene with the opening song for Ouran High School Host Club. And this person made it super obvious they didn’t ship them.

[@solaistrash]

Your descriptions of Bakugo are completely accurate. You are great, keep going!

[@silvialima3004]

ACKCHYUALLY NO HEE DOSN"T RAED DA MANGOE HEE DONES'T UNDESRSTMD ANTYTINGH

[@luk4aaaa]

This is a very accurate reinactment of a comment section

[@marlom7882]

Sola Prestson this comment section makes me happy I have no idea why the fandom deep throats bakagou so much

[@tayloravery7840]

as a big fan of bakugo, every description is definitely on point XD

[@Norbert_Sattler]

If anyone without a knowledge of Japanese wonders why Deku sounds similar to "you can do it" for Ochako, it's because of the word "dekiru" which means "being able to". Cross out the "ir" part from Dekuri and you arrive at Deku. And yes I know this wouldn't work in writing in Japanese due to the ki and ru being their own "letters" but it still makes the two words sound similar enough to explain Ochako's comment.

[@DBZMacky]

Tfw Explanation Point uploads 👌

[@TheAstronomer100]

UUUUGGHGHGUHHGUGH!!!1!!

[@zacharyzelechowski1732]

Man, insincere or not, lines like 'weak, fuckable, Deku' are the kind of content that manages to give your content the kind of flavor that makes it far more entertaining to watch

[@purplexeno819]

I feel like people who mindlessly talk shit about the dub just... haven't watched it. Don't get me wrong, to each his own, but Hero Academia has one of the best dubs I've personally seen in a long time, and there are even some English VAs that I prefer over the Japanese VAs. For god's sake, give it a chance before constantly trashing it.

[@SupLuiKir]

> I hate when people call My Hero Academia "Hero Aca" > Don't worry, I fixed it 7:25 > Aco Heara You blorious gastard!

[@mr.applejuice8546]

· 0xFFF1 also right after he says I fixed it heroica

[@mangaponefanatic3716]

Seriously? People were complaining about the way you said the name? Goodness, man, some of your fans are incredibly whiny.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

Eh, that's every fanbase ever.

[@thenerdyalien958]

Thats the anime community in general

[@limerslimer]

Explanation Point Everyone knows the one true way of pronouncing it is "Macadamia"

[@Albatross159]

Welcome, my child to anime.

[@mangaponefanatic3716]

@Explanation Point I suppose you're right, but you'd think they'd let it slide considering all the hard work and editing it must've taken. But this is the Internet, I should've seen it coming. Anyways, great video!

[@ximienlum3089]

I agree with what you're saying. I'm beginning to look forward to your videos because of how much detail you put into it. Also, I noticed a lot of the comments criticizing you don't make a lot of sense... it's like they don't agree with you, but they don't understand exactly what's bothering them so they just randomly focus on a part of your argument to get started

[@embrefrosste6044]

Kacchan is a Tsundere that was gay for Deku the whole time confirmed

[@TacticalBerry]

“It’s not like I like you or anything! Shut up, stupid sexy Deku!”

[@embrefrosste6044]

I think that this makes Todoroki the Emo one in the love triangle.

[@Novumic]

EmbreFrosste *kuudere

[@tayloravery7840]

'and until bakugo breaks down and admits how long hes wanted to bend deku over a table' XD omfg i laughed too hard at this

[@toddvogel8887]

Watching these two videos has made me realize that the Sub is clearly better in this instance. I'd rather hear Deku say that he tried to save the cock yodeler not because of any attachment to him, but because he couldn't just sit by and do nothing, like a real hero. Saving someone because you care about them is a lot different than saving someone because its the right thing to do. A bad guy could save his girlfriend from falling off a bridge, but he wouldn't bother to save some random kid from getting hit by a car. The point of that scene was that Deku is a hero at heart because he was willing to risk his life to save someone else and he didn't bother to think about it before acting. It has a much different meaning if he is doing it because he is trying to help a friend or whatever feelings you think he might have for that ass basket. Also, Uraka is definitely better in Sub.

[@TwilightWolf032]

There are many subtle parts of Bakugo's (and any other characters) personalities and relationships with others that simply can't be translated in either the dub or the sub, because of how different and unique Japanese language is. The pronouns the character uses to define himself, the way he addresses others, including his elders, how other people address and talk to him, etc. There's formal speech, normal speech, rude speech, all manners of speaking that simply cannot be translated to any other language, at least not without walls of texts or books. And that's why I say, you guys keep fighting over Subs and Dubs, while I'll just watch the Japanese version without any subs at all! Though there is one point that's worth mentioning, in the Jap, during their first fight, Bakugou bursts out at Deku asking "You were tricking me, weren't you? Was it fun? Isn't it quite the flashy quirk?" What Bakugou can't stand is the fact that Deku hid it from him (although not true), without even considering that, just maybe, Deku didn't know he had that quirk either. The idea of Deku being a late bloomer didn't even cross Bakugou's mind. Either Deku can't do anything and the world is correct, or Deku is conspiring against Bakugou by pretending to not have any quirks so he can make him look bad by not having so much of a gap there. Bakugou needs that gap. The gap is his safe port, it's what sets him apart from the world. When he sees the gap isn't as big as he thought it was, he sees that as Deku being mean to him. And this is just based on Bakugou's relationship with Deku. When it comes down to the rest of the world, and he realizes he's on the wrong side of the gap, that he isn't as great as he thought he was, he just suffers a BSOD.

[@LaconicKibitz]

I like the new way of pronouncing Heroaca.

[@RicardoMenson]

So much sexual tension.

[@hanaomer4940]

"Angry boom boom mc homosexual tendencies" is the best thing I've heard all week

[@ginger-sama4020]

"Passionately smashing every expectation, every action is act of creation" was so damn catchy, great video

[@slowspectre9612]

the not so subtle yaoi and gay jokes are perfect

[@Imaginita]

What I got out of this is that in the original, Bakugo is a side character that affects and is effected by Deku, but in the end is still just a side character, but in the dub, Deku and Bakugo are more directly rivals and are therefore more equal in terms of story importance. There’s also the fact that these differences reflect cultural differences in what the east and the west look for in a main character: in the dub, Bakugo is an obstacle for Deku to overcome, and in the sub, Bakugo is a catalyst for Deku’s growth.

[@Loop2Froot]

Man, these videos are great. They're hilarious, and they bring out good points. One of my favorite characters is bakugo, but if someone isn't willing to admit that he's a shitty person, they're lying out of their asses. Don't mind the hate on your videos man. Keep it up!

[@kcgirl578_5]

I actually liked the way he say Hero Aca dont judge me... everyone has different taste just like others like dubs and others dont

[@hahayes3636]

“angry boom boom suppressed homosexual tendencies” is going down in my book

[@mimikyute7293]

........was that a discreet Hamilton reference at the end I heard??? *slowly applauds*

[@martinconway8174]

'Gasp in Japanese'

[@BaguioCityMe]

your descriptions of Bakugou in the beginning have me in tears XD "Inverted Sasuke" "Dumpster fire stuffed into a suit of skin" I can't breathe XD

[@boopy6430]

"An asshole on a mission" I lost it

[@marlom7882]

Hot Potato he is though

[@dccalling5960]

"You looked like you needed saving" is literally Deku's hero catchphrase. Like it's his version of "I am here." I can't believe the dub messed it up that bad.

[@reigen_arataka]

Ah, yes, I sure do love the *extremely* subtle bakudeku

[@Victor-um9ce]

*"HEROICA"* God i love you so much for this.

[@gdalsoxd]

"Lot of you took issue with my saying hero Ah kah so I fixed it." "Immediately says heroika 😂"

[@WorldsTallestLeprechaun]

“Angry Boom-Boom McRepressed-Homosexual-Tendencies.” Dude, I fucking love you in a heterosexual way just for that line. I needed that laugh so much, you don’t even know.

[@nah3551]

Between the pedantic geekiness, deadpan snark, and unrelenting homoeroticism, I think this is my favourite video on youtube. For real though, I initially watched all episodes of the dub and had real trouble understanding what the hell Bakugo’s problem was. It felt like he had a very personal beef with Midoriya that I genuinely expected would some day be revealed in a flashback. But since watching this video, and going back to watch the subs of the first few episodes, his perspective has completely clicked for me, and the significance of the seemingly inane, teasing flashbacks we’ve seen so far suddenly hit me in the face like a Detroit Smash. Granted, it’s entirely possible that I just wasn’t paying enough attention the first time around, and power-hungry motivations like Bakugo’s are generally hard for me to understand, what with me being a simpering little bitch who apologises for being bumped into. But the subtle changes in phrasing covered in this video immensely helped me understand what it actually is about Midoriya that pisses Bakugo off so much. I can’t overstate the difference it makes in my mind for Bakugo to consider Midoriya an irrelevant pebble, compared to focusing on him as a bug to crush whom he personally needs to teach a lesson. And it gives me immense joy to see someone else so passionate about seemingly small details and their broader implications. In particular, Midoriya’s line upon saving Bakugo from the sludge villain changed things for me. In both version of this scene, the visuals are obviously the same, with Midoriya stewing in helplessness and then springing into action after a close-up on Bakugo’s face. In both versions, Midoriya’s lines on why acts also follow the same pattern of “maybe it was this, but mostly it was that.” But in both versions, I interpreted the scene completely differently. In the dub, what I saw was a close up revealing the victim’s identity to Midoriya, and Midoriya springing into action because of who it was. It seemed as if he would have waited for a “real hero” to swoop in and save the day if it had been anyone else, but his personal investment in Bakugo saw him irrationally disregard his own safety and qualifications. So in this version of the scene, Midoirya goes from “someone’s in trouble, just hold on for someone good enough to help you,” to “Bakugo’s in trouble, I can’t help but do something.” In the sub, what I saw was a close up revealing the victim’s fear to Midoriya, and Midoriya springing into action because he realised there was no time to lose. It seemed as if he would have waited for a “real hero” if he thought anyone would act in time, but knew no one could. He knew All Might was incapacitated, and he knew that if someone as strong and proud as Bakugo was showing such fear then he was practically dead already. So in this version of the scene, Midoriya goes from “someone’s in trouble, just hold on for someone good enough to help you,” to “there’s no time to wait for someone better, even if I’m useless I’ll risk dying if there’s a chance it’ll save a life.” The dub’s line is “I don’t know why I did what I did, maybe it was the look in his face / Kacchan, I couldn’t just stand there and watch you die.” Which feels like it specifically WASN’T just the look on his face, and that Midoriya is in denial of this fact that he cares about Bakugo. It seemed to be saying MAYBE it was the look on his face, but it was really just that it was him. “I-it’s not like I wanted to save you Kacchan, maybe you just looked so pathetic that I couldn’t help but step in, b-baka, it’s not like I like you or anything.” The sub’s line is “I think there were various reasons, but in that moment / You looked like you were asking for help.” As in, in SPITE of their relationship, in spite of Midoriya being quirkless, in spite of his drive to be a hero, in spite of his discouragement, in spite of any vague plan to create an opening for the pros, it all boils down to the fact that Midoriya was in a position to help, and helping is his incurable nature. As said, both lines follow a pattern of “maybe it was this, but mostly it was that,” but the dub kind of flipped it backwards. So the sub reads “maybe it was x y z, but mostly it was the look on his face which said he needed help,” and the dub flips to “maybe it was his face, but mostly it was him.” Not only does the sub portray a much more heroic motivation, but the dub’s portrayal is one of the big things that completely confused me about the nature of their relationship and caused me to think they were lapsed friends, rather than a bully/victim, prodigy/pebble who just happened to grow up alongside each other. Anyway, Bakugo’s certainly still a dumpster fire, but it turns out he’s a very well-written one. Both in that his motivations are consistent, interesting, and provide a great foil for Midoriya, and in that the show’s self-aware enough to have the rest of the cast openly and repeatedly call him out on his personality being, to quote the show itself, “crap steeped in sewage/flaming crap mixed with garbage.” After so many years suffering through Sasuke’s bullshit, I can’t even begin to express how refreshing Bakugo is. At first I just appreciated his comical outbursts while questioning the strength of the writing, but now the pieces have all fallen into place for a well executed and very interesting, surprisingly realistic dynamic. And despite saying all this, I think the performances in the dub are overall fantastic, so I’m not shitting on it. I’m just really struck by how a few small differences genuinely changed not just how well I understand Bakugo’s character on a rational level, but how these scenes viscerally feel to me in the moment.

[@mr.mayhem5056]

0:11 Bakugou's an unlikable, semi sentiment, dumpster fire stuffed into a loose fitting suit of human skin and sprinkled with an extra dash of misdirected rage for flavor.

[@kylefields3951]

3:07 I think the line could have carried the same meaning in both english and japanese dubs if in the english dub Bakugo stopped at "Don't you ever forget what you are!" As it implies Deku's status being below that of Bakugo.

[@meganlee1395]

I really love this in depth comparison! I hope you can keep this series going, it's exactly the sort of thing I wonder about when I pick up a dub instead of a sub. Also, your delivery is seriously well-crafted--informative and hilarious on different levels. Keep up the good work!

[@Juliame]

Bakugou actually is pretty smart. That's still funny, right?

[@silvialima3004]

c o m b a t g e n i u s

[@siphillis]

If "I'm going to take on All Might one-on-one" qualifies as smart, then the kid's a genius.

[@malcomalexander9437]

Bakugo is in the top three of smart students(#3), he is a better student than Deku.

[@siphillis]

There's probably an insignificant difference between the top four students in class, so while that confirms that Bakugo tests well, and has a lot of raw brainpower, it does not suggest he has a lot of emotional intelligence. Bakugo routinely lets his emotions override the best course of action, making things unnecessarily difficult for himself. That, quite literally, makes him an idiot.

[@silvialima3004]

Agreed. I'm caught up with the manga and I understand where the "Bakugou is super smart" crowd is coming from, but I really disagree with it. He does have some good analytical skills and already shown he's very observant, he gets too emotional and does something dumb. There are some exceptions, but the tl;dr of what I'm saying is: Bakugou has good situational awareness, but is a bad decision maker.

[@astaven9439]

You brilliant and beautiful exclamation mark, keep up the amazing work. I care not for how long it takes you to upload so long as your content remains of the high quality variety.

[@udayveerbhadauria1659]

You just tore down BakuBitch to pieces... *HAVE A LIKE*

[@chavalampert8541]

And if anyone watched the 49th and 50th episode, the way bakugou looks at deku when he's crying shows great character development on his part

[@xxchesire_catxx8176]

Best phrases of this episode (in my opinion): "Watching this kid feels like somebody inverted Sasuke, doused him in lemon juice and shoved him into my open wound." "And until Bakugou finally breaks down and admits how long he's wanted to bend Deku over a table--" "I hate you, you sniveling, weak, sexy little b*tch!" - Bakugou "As he presses his bare ass against the glass ceiling of heroism and tells Deku to pucker up." "J-Angry boom boom Mc Suppressed homosexual tendencies." "Main Character kun might be a powerless nobody with the laws of physics stacked against him but he's never gonna give up, damnit." "But E-Bakugou is an asshole on a mission." "It has significant implications for how Bakugou perceives his life long rival/sexual quarry." "The self proclaimed lord of the ass blasters." "And now here's quirk less, worthless, defenseless, weak, *fuckable* Deku." "(gasping in Japanese)" "Hello! My name is: a-moderately-metaphorical-representation-of-my-own-advancement-toward-my-highly-illogical-personal-goal-that-manages-to-carry-a-message-of-inspiration-despite-being-the-ultimate-act-of-concession-to-my-own-internalized-inferiority." "To Deku it (his nickname: Deku) still means useless, worthless, sexy and delusional, just as it always has." (most of them are about Bakugou's suppressed desires w h o o p s XD)

[@robinmartin2818]

Dude you are F****** Hilarious! You bring up deep points that I never thought about while making me crack up the whole time.

[@thomaslovell2495]

Mic quality keeps getting better also great video keep it up.

[@ExplanationPointAnime]

Mic quality is the same! I'm just learning how to edit audio!

[@thomaslovell2495]

fair enough it's still nicer to listen to!

[@FearTheRelicFighter]

You are just trying to hide that you buy a marginally better mic for every video

[@non-bird-nary2420]

i loved this video so much, thank youuuuu

[@jthrone7768]

"Angry boom boom McSuppressed homosexuality"

[@gumzlovebot]

I can't even concentrate on what you're saying because the little jokes and running gags are so incredibly funny that i lose track of the video

[@joshuajohnston3857]

11:20 "gasps in japanese" Goddamn it, I missed these

[@Glorious_Mane]

Disliking a character doesn't make them a bad character. Bakugo succeeds in getting you to dislike him at first so they can build off that foundation later. It's the entire point.

[@diogobraga1357]

You just waisted 16 minutes of my study time thank you MCDONALDS HERE I COME

[@theblackluffy93]

I swear you are my favorite youtuber. Your editing makes everything even funnier than it already is. Never change. Also your clever insults to Bakugo are pure gold. I love you.

[@golgarisoul]

Heroica. Good, perfect.

[@dane230]

The dub work for those two characters is fine. Does the job. Where it really shines is the side characters. They make a lot of good, really funny, choices.

[@irnTincture]

that was really good man, love your philosophy minor

[@jtroopa]

Thanks for making me realize just how much gayness Bakugou really appears to have in his heart for Deku. He's always looking at him, is on his mind constantly, and every time Deku pops into his head, he's FILLED with emotion.

[@jalahjava_]

I like the dub more. Just personal choice.

[@BizzyIzzy6432]

You are legitimately the funniest human being I have ever met. I watched this at night but you were so funny I accidentally physically hurt myself trying to quiet my out of control laughter.