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Star Trek The Next Generation s03e08 The Price
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[@DrownedInExile]

"You could help me change, you could be my conscience" Sorry buddy that's not how this works. You already have a conscience, try listening to it. You really want to change? Change yourself.

[@gerardcousineau3478]

The beans

[@carrieullrich5059]

Also the most sexist douchebag marriage offer... You could be my minion and take care of trying to fix me... Not exactly the love one hopes is expressed... I'd like to use you for my benefit is a horrible offer.

[@Dowlphin]

I have seen so many people with thing or thick layers of mask and when removing it I learned what I kinda sensed from the start: Absolutely no intention to change, but using all means of bullshitting to pretend. ... I also understand what a trap this can be. I have been shown by ayahuasca once how the mind can go into an evasion frenzy, throwing all kinds of decoys to distract from the path of letting go. ( Related: Check out "Revolver elevator scene" - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXTIkmCerraYrMk )

[@josephmassaro]

I always got the impression that what he said in this last seen was just another maneuver. A guy whose been doing it all his life, loses perspective. He doesn't know when he's playing the game or being real.

[@supersonictumbleweed]

That would be consistent with the kinds of lessons woven throughout TNG

[@DrownedInExile]

"Sorry buddy. Games are for children, and I only date adults. There's the door, use it."

[@cernstormrunner7263]

I remember watching this episode and absolutely *h a t i n g* this guy

[@jacksonheathen2092]

I thought he was cool. But that's just my opinion.

[@danieldickson8591]

@@jacksonheathen2092 The two perspectives aren't mutually exclusive. Some of the coolest characters have also been the most hate-able.

[@jacksonheathen2092]

@@danieldickson8591 That's a great point. There are also a lot of characters I hate who were played by good actors/actresses.

[@chrisasmith75]

If she went with him, she'd learn the definition of serenity now insanity later.

[@jabbadabobby]

😂😂😂

[@ezra3776]

If she HAD GONE with him, she'd HAVE LEARNED blah blah blah... *

[@TheZetaKai]

The writers had it tough here; they gave themselves 40 minutes to establish this guy, build a relationship, present a plausible threat of her leaving, create a conflict, and bring it all to a climax, before wrapping up with a denouement. I wouldn't say that they stuck the landing, especially from a modern perspective, but by the standards of episodic television in the 90's, I'd say that they did a passible job, particularly considering that they wove in the scifi B-plot rather well.

[@milesmojave8223]

Haha, you said climax

[@erikk77]

I wouldn't call it a B plot. Emotion and manipulation are valid concepts in all aspects.

[@mtwhatley3253]

Troi “ why can’t you be like Lloyd Braun? “

[@runetide]

Serenity now. Insanity later.

[@Dowlphin]

I think he's still manipulating. It's still his game on. He's a natural. That's hard to change. Habitual. It's kind of a dilemma if the 'cure' would be for him to release control but he wants to control the cure. The test to see whether there is hope for him will be whether he can make some progress in the right direction without her. (The risk is that he instead tries to find some Troi replacement for the same 'job'.) Also, it was kind of Troi to apologize. She probably understands that she didn't want to lower herself to his standards and consider what she did a legitimate tactic to win the deal for the Federation, but if he had taken issue, she could have brought that to show his hypocrisy.

[@Zestybeef]

"Am I crazy or is that a lot of gum?" "It's a lot of gum!!!"

[@hithere8753]

Now lets all enjoy a nice chew.

[@omvegan]

Lloyd Braun gets shut down again

[@fisher525]

Lloyd Braun really is crazy

[@stevenreichertart]

What a beautiful line, and a beautiful ending to the show.

[@Barbutt]

1:40 Ouch!

[@TheZetaKai]

She was stone-cold in that moment. It might have been interesting if he had said something about how she was putting up a front, to prevent herself from giving in and running away. From the way that the scene reads, the only thing that we get from her is icy stoicism.

[@khalidmkhan]

It's like, Goodbye Douche bag! Lol

[@forrestgunnell7898]

Tell that punk to say it to my face

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

Ugh. The Troi episodes were so annoying in the first three seasons. When Jeri Taylor became Executive Producer her character grew exponentially.

[@Barbutt]

I never noticed an improvement on Troi, and I can’t exactly put my finger on what bothers me about her. Her accent? Her constant pouting? Her ability to read a room and feel superior in most instances? I can’t explain it, those were guesses. I liken it to how much I can’t stand the song Old Time Rock and Roll. I listen, strong vocals, good guitar and drums… but I just don’t like it to the point of groaning if I hear the intro and changing a station.

[@gospeltelecast]

Nicholas Cage meets Rick Astley.

[@anotherdave5107]

While I prefer Bushes to Heinz, I do like your trailer "theme song".

[@FailSonOfAnarchy]

Space Michael Scott. He wants people to be afraid of how much they love him.

[@chrisasmith75]

Llyod braun actor from Seinfeld lmao.

[@michaelscott5653]

Exactly.

[@GeordiLaForge1978]

Damn im first on a video. Love your stuff dude keep it up!

[@tjwparso]

Good job :) Thanks, I appreciate it :)

[@Sovic91]

Congratulations. You receive the "beans" award

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

It's nice to see that there's a place for 80s "coffee's for closers" yuppies in the future.

[@davincent98]

He used an old Jedi mind trick

[@robertrodriguez9770]

👍👍👍👍

[@oliverqueen444]

God, she's beautiful

[@tanksouth]

A little ice for that burn?

[@nb2008nc]

He can always sell car insurance sponsored by AARP.

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

But not before he settles down and marries Annabella Sciorra.

[@milopugdog]

Could we get your bean tier list at 5k subs?

[@tjwparso]

haha it would just be baked beans baked beans baked beans... think I may have replied to someone already with a list... I'll search and try and find it :)

[@tjwparso]

Punisher Castle • 1 week ago (edited) @tjwparso string beans? Garbanzo beans? Green beans? Jelly beans? Black beans? Pinto beans? Baked beans? Kidney beans? Or all of the above? @Punisher Castle in order? baked beans, kidney beans, jelly beans, string beans/green beans I guess, baked are the best. @tjwparso you forgot black beans, pinto beans, and garbanzo beans, but I appreciate the response lol @Punisher Castle I didn't forget, I just left them off...

[@tjwparso]

This has me thinking... I DO LOVE KIDNEY BEANS, in a nice chilli :) just nothing beats baked beans!

[@misterlau5246]

Blah blah Lloyd lol!

[@brjones27]

Never ask a girl to help you be your anything. One weakness, and you're done for, in her mind.

[@szahmad2416]

It works for a date. Not for a long-term relationship.

[@caterinadc5567]

The problem isn't showing "weakness". The problem is treating a prospective partner like a contracted employee rather than a relationship. This dude wasn't offering Troi a healthy relationship, he was claiming to be an unhealthy person who needed her to cure him; Troi's response was great: she already has a job as counsellor. Yes, partners should be mutually supportive (all partners will have weaknesses requiring support). But when someone seemingly pursues a relationship BECAUSE they want someone to support them? That motive, that dynamic, isn't a healthy start to a relationship. The initial motive for relationship from both sides should be about giving, not grasping. It's just gross, anyway. I was once in a relationship with a guy who consistently pushed me away when he was healthy... then after I left for good he got sick and he for the first time started claiming he loved me then admitted he thought I'd make a good "caregiver." Like actually yeah I hope I would -- but for a REAL partner who loves me regardless of whether he's healthy or weak, strong or sick; not just a desperate person who 'needs' me and reaches out claiming "love" ONLY when weak/sick.

[@brjones27]

@@caterinadc5567 Yeh, totally agree. I am just relaying how the average modern woman thinks, these days. It's almost instinctual for her to want to ditch a guy showing any sort of weakness, in any way. Especially if it involves something he should be motivated to do on his own, but isn't, for some reason. Women like to say they want to feel needed or that they want their man to share their feelings. But deep down, they don't want that, at all, one bit. They're going to take off after the guy who shows no such things. The "bad boy," so to speak, that all women want, but don't like to admit it. But yea, in this case it makes sense, as that's something she enjoys, and he did it to manipulate.

[@szahmad2416]

@@brjones27I’m gonna take it that there’s a personal bitter story or two in there somewhere…which I hope you recover from someday with the right woman. You may have something there, I don’t know. I think it’s an overly general statement, but on the whole, both men and women seem to be happier when their partners are independent and resourceful, yet have a vulnerability or two through which they can feel needed. There’s also the fear of being manipulated emotionally…which I suspect is where most of the cases of women favouring men who don’t demonstrate weakness comes from. I know I’m generalizing, but on the whole, women can become very familiar with the real vulnerabilities of the men they’re involved with…a lot faster than men can for themselves.

[@brjones27]

@@szahmad2416 I came to this conclusion after years of being with dozens of women. Take the advice or leave it. Women are genetically programmed to dislike weak men. They may tell you they WANT you to expose weaknesses to them. Deep down, they don't. They don't even know it themselves. Likely just a form of defense to get you to expose yourself. Try it, if you are a guy... see what happens, and good luck.

[@KingToll]

Worst season 3 episode. But that's probably the highest standard you can hold up to.

[@aggressiveattitudeera887]

I disagree. "Hollow Pursuits" is the worst Season 3 episode. IMHO the worst episode of the entire series.

[@PR--un4ub]

@@aggressiveattitudeera887 The hell are you smoking? _Hollow Pursuits_ is an excellent study of socially-awkward people.