Detective Realizes The 12 Year Old Suspect Is Insane

[@marcellom]

New interrogation footage? Fresh analysis? TWO AND A HALF HOURS?? You guys have been on a roll lately. Keep it up!

[@amandamc6569]

They really have. It's my go to channel now

[@SegaDream131]

STILL THE BEST 1973 .... OH NO!!!... FBI!.....

[@normalwhiteguy1555]

Thank god a new video, I’ve been having withdrawals from JCS!!!

[@francesdauria8337]

Hhhhhhhh

[@SegaDream131]

@@johnstephan9962 M.uh bison....

[@smallbonesrs]

i love the part of "burning her sims characters house down or drowning them" as part of the proof of how unhinged she is. as if we ALL didnt burn/drown our sims

[@smallbonesrs]

@@liamsangel i feel like they’re fairly informed just out of touch on a few key points

[@emmawoering9379]

I was thinking the exact same thing lol. Like obviously she wasn't okay but the way they said that like its a thing only sadistic murdering kids do was lowkey hilarious

[@lightlylemony]

@@emmawoering9379 Honestly lmfao, idk why THAT was stated. Or the run Bambi thing, i mean its just a little girl telling an animal IN DANGER to run, was she meant to mope around after the mom died and NOT care about Bambi?

[@opstandoffish5208]

🤣 true

[@sp0ckz0mbi3]

True but when taken in the context of everything else it does become concerning. As this channel sometimes says, look for clusters.

[@ASecretLynn]

The biggest thing I take out of this is Payton is an absolute badass of a human being. She was stabbed 19 times and still managed to drag herself to the street, and recovered from her injuries after a week in the hospital. I hope she is able to overcome the trauma of this incident and become the person she wants to be.

[@jessiestarts6947]

@@slovnicurling9808 ok lol Im an adult and I feel like i would die if a child stabbed me even just once

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I was thinking this exact same thing... Imagine being that tough at such a young age, physically but also very much mentally.

[@flacko_r3519]

You forgot the most important part, don’t surround yourself with bad people.

[@Underyourbedeyes]

@@slovnicurling9808 you're taking this comment too literal.

[@marwinout]

if only she stayed home to eat some bean

[@Aaron-hf5or]

“It was a flawless plan, actually.” She says to the police interrogator inside of an interrogation room.

[@ilovemeatwad]

LMFAOSHAJSV RIGHT

[@izayaorihara7059]

Let's go Pinky & Brain!

[@normlolrobert4404]

Time stamp?

[@BBishop27]

The flawless plan was the plan that she thought of that didn't happen at the sleepover.

[@josephrubin5821]

Lol

[@Kks1999kks]

I truly cannot believe how many people failed morgan. Showing clear signs at a young age that she lacked empathy and her parents NEVER thought to get her evaluated? This whole situation was so incredibly sad all around and im glad peyton survived. I dont understand how anissa was able to manipulate everyone into believing she was just following morgan and was scared. The girl is clearly sadistic.

[@constanzerodriguezalvarez9477]

💯 agreed !

[@jellybathwater]

The trouble is, at that age, empathy is underdeveloped anyway. So to evaluate wouldn't cross most parents minds. The "kids being kids" excuse comes into play a lot.

[@MusicalMemeology]

@@jellybathwatercome on her weird fantasies are very dark and twisted it’s not normal. Hard to understand what was going on at home that no one cared enough about her to get her looked at. The result is murder.

[@Mindy-fd9lt]

@@jellybathwater my 6 year old grandson shows great empathy. When his mother or myself doesn’t feel well he gets water and snacks and blankets. He shows great concern for his animals being safe and healthy.

[@HelioPopTart]

I agree with you to a certain extent. Yes, the system failed. Yes, her loved ones knew and her father had episodes and was admitted to psychiatric hospital. However, the real truth lies in the absolute denial the entire world and the readily acceptance of mental illness. If I were to be specific, I could argue that, the necessity of looking or being normal within the society of America, the image one has to paint themselves, requires normal people to go to the extreme to do so and ignore any form of knowledge and or facts. Furthermore, if anything, this is a disease that has been around humanity within its entire history. We just don’t have a fail safe system. It’s not that there isn’t a system, it’s just no system is ever or will be perfect. Human beings are flawed. This video is indicative of how willfully ignorance we are of our own kind. The amount of people who at the school had insight, yet no actions were taken. The apathy within us may hopefully be ridden in a couple of hundred of years through evolution. I’m skeptical, but by all means, I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. Morgan will not be the last. Refer to “The Casual Criminalist” KZbin channel to watch another young woman taking similar direction in the twentieth century, in Britain.

[@zachariahmena3518]

The girl without the schizophrenia actually scares me more than the one with.

[@shilohivy4590]

Definitely a psychopath

[@whipchick90]

100%!

[@techsk8er1O5]

I felt that too

[@adriiic0]

Literally

[@shibe5877]

Schizophrenics are not automatically evil or scary. In many cases it's usually the "normal" people who are the scariest

[@dianeschmidt17]

I feel like the media really portrayed Morgan as the mastermind of this crime, but after watching all of this it seems pretty clear it was Anissa. She is so enthusiastic about sharing the CreepyPasta stories and her initial interest in finding out if Payton was dead seemed so eager.

[@tessbrgns2977]

The fact that Anissa at first blamed her for hearing voices makes me share your opinion. On the otherhand i wonder why Morgan Was drawing all those CP creatures..

[@dualkelly]

its not so hard to get someone who is schizophrenia to believe anything is real. they are highly suggestable and infarct that's one of the reasons schizophrics are sometimes highly and fanatically religious because what is fake can be made to seem so real.

[@ngirlsdiary]

💚Jesus lived the life we couldn't live and died the death we deserve. Repent of your sins and trust in Him💙

[@ngirlsdiary]

💚Jesus lived the life we couldn't live and died the death we deserve. Repent of your sins and trust in Him💙

[@VGApollo]

I 100% agree. I'm very close to a schizophrenic, and so many things I saw present in Morgan, I see in this person. Even medicated to fuck and back. The way she "Over and over and over and over and over" the person I know does it with "again and again and again again again" the flat affectations in her speech that may seem inappropriate, among many other things. I wholly believe that girl is schizophrenic and if not, she has studied this disease deeply and practiced 100s of hours of faking it. "I don't know why I did that but it seemed really important" person I know has said that a million times. Not about stabbing someone. But she doesn't require an impetus to do something. If you just tell her it's important, she'll commit her entire being to it. I think we've got an edgy, somewhat sociopathic teen, finding someone she can really easily control in her undiagnosed friend. The alternative is Morgan is a literal criminal Mastermind, practiced the whole schizophrenic schtick to the point she could emulate it perfectly, and manipulated her totally normal friend into engaging in a murder without her saying a word to anyone else.

[@vannrose2158]

The man who found the girl, round of applause for the composure he kept. His calmness probably REALLY helped.

[@walidfakhfakh3660]

@@concernedcitizen4933 NZXT

[@embadly]

dude was probably in shock tbh.

[@Vince-tp5vr]

True hero. God bless that man.

[@Filth532]

He was volcan

[@milessmith6611]

@Genovese 23 Very true. Someone in my neighborhood had their car stolen by their crazy girlfriend while I was driving somewhere for an errand. He had scars all over his arms too from previous times she chased him with a knife. I actually tailed the girlfriend in the car for a little while on the phone with the cops, and I gave them direction to where she was going. I kept a 6 car distance behind her just in case and then I turned down a street when she opened the car door and said “The fuck is your problem”. It’s weird how you get hyper focused in those moments.

[@maccoll3644]

Happy to see that Peyton eventually recovered and in 2022 was doing well as a medical student!

[@Just1Nora]

That's wonderful! I'm sure her situation had an impact on her career choice, but we're all influenced into that by different circumstances in our own lives. I hope she does well in whatever specific field she chose.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Yeah it's good to hear something positive about this at least. She's a fighter. ​@@Just1Nora

[@christineberns5802]

Once a sadist, ALWAYS a sadist- I bet she chose this profession so she could carry on her thirst for blood - she can carry on hurting and manipulating others under the guise of Medicine

[@_therealaurora]

Are there any articles or interviews of her?

[@macyr1132]

​@@_therealaurorashe did an interview in 2019.

[@Halp6363]

"She wanted to set her sim's house on fire, and starve her characters." Me sweating heavily: 👀👀

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

Right?... like thats base level xD

[@khorneflakes773]

They mentioned that and I was like "You forgot about drowning them in their pool, or starving them."

[@TJ-fn7yf]

We all do it 😂

[@Thebeezzkneezz.]

@@kittyk9836 and then mods make it more Easy to end your Sims 😅 morbid but ppl do it in gta too

[@xiaohuli96]

@@Cami-dc9iu disturbing? 90% of sims players do this, including myself lmao

[@vuxinity3892]

Morgan - "We were worried we'd get questioned in Walmart about the blood on our hands, but then we realized it's Walmart." Officer - "And that's normal?" Morgan - "Yeah." Seems pretty accurate.

[@rippleeffectmedia.]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ransom2610]

1:23:53 for anyone who wanted a time stamp xD

[@FuzzThePiGuy]

Yes. People don’t even dress for that place.

[@indigoalexgaming4500]

that shit made me laugh so hard

[@corinabennett5543]

LMAOOO

[@Doofyy11]

“I trusted you, I hate you all” This is fucken sad…. I’m glad she made it thru. Strong little girl.

[@nikgjiro4502]

Talk about trust issues imagine this girl in her 20s

[@ghn_yug3351]

@@nikgjiro4502 what

[@foxwitdaglox]

@@ghn_yug3351 use your brain child

[@tracys.1428]

She should write a book it might be healing idk 🙏 for her and others

[@a_z_771]

The fact she could still put words together after being stabbed 19 times and as a kid is such a bad ass thing. This poor girl doesn't deserve any of this

[@littyleigh2007]

The male detective is amazing at what he does. Not excusing anything that Morgan did but the way she asked if she would “regret giving this information” and he told her that he wants to help her “not hear those screams anymore” made me tear up as a social worker🥺

[@Keirnoth]

​@potterhead338Detective Casey is a good man.

[@CaollaidheHeir]

i was looking for this exact comment before i made one myself, when he tells her he wants to get her help for the voices in her head it made me tear up! very sweet man

[@davidshouse2225]

He was listening to her and not just hearing her.

[@sizzurp8820]

Morgan has schizophrenia, and she got locked up in a mental ward for 40 years. Yet, Anissa is already out and she had full control of her actions at the time. She knew better, Morgan didn't. Schizophrenia is a terrible disorder, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[@c0rps3incarnat33]

I agree love. As a person with diagnosed schizophrenia I’ve definitely gone through horrible intrusive homocidal thoughts and intended to act on them due to auditory hallucinations in a bad psychosis episode :( it’s definitely easy for us to get manipulated especially when in psychosis and detached from reality.

[@timespaceperspective701]

tbh my gut tells me anissa was the leader here, though they both became convinced by this delusion. no idea why she got the lesser sentence..she seemed very self centered

[@c0rps3incarnat33]

@@timespaceperspective701 she definitely was the leader and took advantage of Morgan is her worse state KNOWING Morgan wasn’t stable. Yet she got a lesser sentence

[@Gibsonlove87]

I think Anissa pulled the strings and knew how unhinged her friend was. She knew what she was doing and that if they got caught she could put it all on Morgan. I think she is more dangerous than Morgan. That’s just my opinion 🤷‍♀️

[@carvv3517]

I believe Morgan is requesting to be released as well, if she hasn’t done it yet. I thought I saw an article last week on Facebook

[@wallis69]

Bless that man who found Payton and possibly saved her life by keeping her calm and also being a kind human to her after she was just victim to the most gruesome act

[@Queen-up6xe]

did payton survive

[@wallis69]

@@Queen-up6xe yes she did thankfully. If you look her up she has made a full recovery and Anissa is getting out of custody. The worlds a crazy place

[@Queen-up6xe]

@@wallis69 wow this is amazing

[@jamiedavies4545]

@@Queen-up6xe Its Jamie Davies I'm happy she's survived I mean Payton luvor.

[@reidecember]

Agreed. He is such a hero and I hope he is still doing well and is OK. What he witnessed will have stayed with him for a very long time, if not, will do forever.

[@MeiZ125]

the fact they're letting Anissa back out into society even though she clearly manipulated and took advantage of Morgan's mental state is so alarming.... i get such an uneasy feeling from Anissa....

[@c.c.germaine9960]

The difference between 12yro and 19yro is night and day. She is under supervision. We shall see i guess.

[@marchitecture5736]

I’m sure she has received a lot of therapy and medication. Manipulation to this extent is often a symptom of severe mental disorders

[@tiffanysullivan5454]

Agreed. Anissa was the one that introduced Morgan to Slender Man, there's a great documentary about it on HBO. She's also the more aggressive of the two girls, and I also think she manipulated Morgan's illness. Remember, she didn't like Peyton/Bella, and even if Morgan was the only one to actually "do the deed" (that REALLY bothered me, she said it multiple times) Anissa planted the seed, encouraged it, and then lied her a☆☆ off. I hope she has truly gotten the help she needs, is getting therapy, and is HEAVILY medicated, or else she'll manipulate someone else eventually. Hopefully, she doesn't actually succeed in killing someone.

[@eatingbabiesisfun]

@@tiffanysullivan5454 what documentary?

[@joshuadickey7221]

She'll probably do something like this again.

[@ArtOfCRash]

I'm so glad Peyton was able to not only survive, but also push forward with determination of her future. Advocacy and drawing from one's own personal experiences can be a very powerful tool for helping those who suffer from mental health problems.

[@Ethel.Estella]

Разве Пейтон страдала каким-то расстройством?

[@LowKeyStatus]

Spell her name correctly. It’s a sign of respect.

[@tmenzerj]

I'm not a psychologist, I'm just a Star Trek fan, but one of the things that I found interesting is that when Morgan said she was playing dress up, the CC says "indistinct" but I'm pretty sure she said she dressed up as Data, the android from Star Trek TNG. This character is an emotionless machine whose character arc is entirely focused on becoming more human and capable of experiencing the emotions of living beings. I don't know if there is any depth to that idea but I found it interesting.

[@ChelseaEasterling]

The owl city song tidal wave is pretty interesting also.

[@Billionaire1998]

You’re definitely been in your head too long man

[@YoutubePizzer]

She does also mention star trek when going through the books she reads around 1:05:00 edit: and 1:35:20

[@qeijkak]

I heard Data too. Very interesting point. However when I was a kid Data was my favorite too and I'm relatively normal.

[@russellwilliams4317]

@@Billionaire1998 Shhh weird kid.

[@steves1015]

The good news from all this horror is that Payton is now at college and doing well (according to reports). It is a testament to her strength that she managed to survive this incident, put it behind her and pursue a career in medicine.

[@dantesos7564]

Omg thats awesome!

[@butterbreaded_]

That’s wonderful to hear! I’m so happy she is doing well!

[@catherinepraus8635]

Nice

[@douglasdragon1602]

Thank god

[@Danielle-zq7kb]

She was such a kind girl. I am so glad that she is doing well.

[@shilde]

Morgan “are you trying to get me to tell the story over and over again to see if I change something?” Damn. I’ve watched full grown adults being interrogated who don’t put that together. These girls are something else.

[@Zer0Skateboard]

people who suffer from personality disorders are often incredibly intelligent, I've noticed.

[@Willschaefer1]

@@1206chaos no in my opinion that is the most accurate proof of her mental illness because the fact that you can notice that while you are in this amount of stress that you assume a human would be and just blatantly admits to the crime anessia on the other hand is most definitely not mentally disturbed unlike Morgan but I do think she has maybe a personality disorder of is a mentally delusion

[@DogFish-NZ]

Two of the smartest and articulate people who have been on this channel. Morgan sounds like she's just telling a cute story about her day. Wtf

[@isabelrosemay]

@Irape Rapists wtf you’re sick..

[@Willschaefer1]

@Irape Rapists wtf nigga

[@LisaMurray]

Morgan is so well-spoken. I read a comment that they thought she could be on the autistic spectrum on top of other mental illnesses and I can see that too. Anissa seems very VERY manipulative. When they were describing her in the beginning, they said she was a “teacher’s pet” and would tell on other kids in the class. She comes across as a very manipulative child. She seems to know how to make adults react/feel sorry for her. Her interviewer was in the palm of her hand. It would have been interesting to see the male officer interview her instead.

[@MultiStephanieMarie]

Are you joking? Anissa is a "simp" or a "flying monkey" type. Morgan was her leader and Anissa worshipped her. She wanted to be loved by Morgan so badly that she agreed to commit murder and actually believe Morgan's slender man stories. She is nothing but a very very lonely girl with no sense of self. Morgan is a psychopath. She wanted to kill for the fun of it and isn't sorry about it.

[@Just1Nora]

As a nd individual she definitely looks like it. The "t-rex arms," repetitive motions and fidgeting, dancing or moving to release energy, talking aloud to oneself, funny seating positions, being thought of as weird by peers.

[@mmaemserna9696]

I agree 100% with you. It’s like the woman let her motherly womanly emotions guide her

[@danieled1158]

@@mmaemserna9696 i dont think this is to be related to anissa interrogation, probably there is way more stuff and interviews by psychologists, man for sure did a really great job, fantastic interview really, but also did the woman, the point here is obviously to not put any word in the suspect mouth and she did it good

[@LaylaTow]

Yes I as an autistic person was wondering about it too. And why they marked her as schizophrenic so quickly. Btw some time ago I read some medical studies that it’s quite common for young autistic people to go through psychotic phase. So maybe that’s it. And I don’t want to completely defend Morgan but if there is a possibility that she is in spectrum that would make even more sense because we are really easy to manipulate.

[@eatthecheesefries]

The most factual statement to come out of Morgan’s mouth: “It’s Walmart- nobody looks twice.”

[@gorehammer42o]

It's been said that persons with Schizophrenia can see and hear things that normal people cannot. Have certain smarts too..a sort of "Evil Genius"

[@mikuforlife1929]

Literally the most truthful statement 💀💀

[@Ferven7]

Yeah she was spot on about Walmart

[@Gl-my8fw]

@@gorehammer42o they aren't all dangerous or " evil" though.

[@gorehammer42o]

@@Gl-my8fw I know what you're saying, I could've worded that differently.

[@patrick4384]

Me: wow these kids are eerily obsessed with violence and death Also me: watches two and a half hours of an interrogation to learn all the details

[@Sammstar420]

are you a kid though lmao? i know that sounds kinda snarky, but like seriously, their brains arent even fully developed yet, they do not need to be absorbing all that stuff (esp since they were mentally ill). but im almost 30 lmao i can watch all this stuff because i already know im not going to be a murderer when i grow up. at least on purpose lmao.

[@21donuts]

@@Sammstar420 i think they were just joking

[@erikariosramos7700]

Curiosity killed the cat 🐈‍⬛!

[@Sammstar420]

@@21donuts i know lol im just sayin

[@courtneyfrost915]

I am also guilty.

[@ShutterMariposa746]

Everyone is talking about the girls, but I wanted to bring up the guy that found her. He did such a good job and remained calm and got her help. I wouldn’t have reacted that well. I’m so grateful that she survived.

[@evanm6739]

What do you mean? Dude literally just called the cops when he saw a bloody girl wondering the streets? Wouldn’t you?

[@imasealarparparparp2714]

@@evanm6739 I mean, unless he was armed, I would’ve just called the cops and kept a safe distance if I couldn’t see all of my surroundings. If someone did that to a kid, who knows what they’d do to a adult. Also, it could be a trap used to lure people in. Very sketchy all around but he had balls (or ignorance)

[@ryanr5139]

The best part was when he was asked if there was an assailant present and when he says “uh no I didn’t look actually “ and he sounds immediately so concerned and like he feels so stupid lmao

[@josephiudice8287]

Have you seen Fargo?

[@casecold1864]

The thing is, most of you don't have children. If you do, and you still stand by these comments, you are a fake parent.

[@garbo7779]

The male detective going full dad when he calls Slender man Mr. Slim 😂

[@transcyberism1459]

He's probably aware that the subject of Slenderman might be distressing so he's trying to be disarming and playful to make the subject feel at ease.

[@KaitlynJ2022]

Just imagine Slenderman dressing up at Eminem for Halloween.

[@xbi0lum1nescenc3]

@@KaitlynJ2022 I can draw him at @ you so you could see it.

[@devarient]

​@@KaitlynJ2022slim-slendy

[@nomnomzyummy3920]

So Morgan and Payton/Bella were friends for years and nothing sinister happened, but then Anissa shows up and a couple of months later, a plan to murder Peyton arises... And they still think Morgan was behind it all...This all just makes no sense to me at all. No one ever stopped to question that.. smh

[@ivorymantis1026]

Oh don't you know she was a LONER and WEIRD. That's all it takes.

[@biancagonzalez3081]

@@ivorymantis1026 so what... There's so many loners and weirdos everywhere and they don't do these things . They don't kill people and premeditate it.

[@ivorymantis1026]

@@biancagonzalez3081 That's why I was being ironic.

[@PimpDaddyFresh]

Guess you missed the large chunk of the video where he talked about how they were reinforcing each others ideas?

[@hunterhutchings2784]

@@biancagonzalez3081 the irony flew right over your head

[@renzocheesman862]

The fact that you went through the trouble of writing two hours worth of subtitles. Damn man, respect ✊🏼

[@sr-op2ov]

For someone with hearing loss, I appreciate this! Thank you!

[@vickiehaper4615]

They need the crazy house see how long they wants to stay they going to do it a gain not crazy just monster s by

[@brittanyhawkins9907]

Yes! Cause i can't hear w my kids being SO LOUD lol i have to read the subtitles

[@laurenmay2098]

It is so much appreciated, professional at his best!!

[@zeuna]

some people even translate...

[@cheeseecakee]

This incident happened within walking distance of my house. It really shook the community up. All of the theaters in the surrounding area refused to run the Slenderman movie when it came out, with respect to the family.

[@aloeleaf]

That’s nice that they did that :(

[@Benjackmo]

Things hit different when they happen in your own neighborhood. This must have been horrible for everyone. What a sad story.

[@kmk1225]

That was sweet of them ❤️

[@Chrisisplays]

They made a movie out of this? Of course they did.

[@gomezk1493]

@@Chrisisplays not this situation but about slender man, he’s a very popular character to a stupid horror story

[@AaliyahMarquez-Pujals]

All of these people are literally sayin its Anissa because EVERYTHING points to her. The fact that Anissa was known to be violent towards her classmates and REMAINED a "teacher's pet" shows manipulative capability. Morgan didn't even know what "man" Anissa was constantly talking about wheras Anissa knows the history of both jeff AND the slenderman.

[@AaliyahMarquez-Pujals]

The only reason nobody is holding Anissa accountable is because Anissa is showing emotion and she knew Morgan wouldn't be able to become she was completely detached during the entire thing and even felt guilt for stabbing HER ONLY FRIEND.

[@teresahiggs4896]

No, Morgan was obsessed with Slender man, and the Creepypasta wiki had a diary with violent images and Slender Man images.

[@Book-Worm92]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@teresahiggs4896 Anissa told Morgan about Slender Man, Jeff, Creepypasta, etc. Anissa planted the seed and it went from there.

[@tvazquez899]

As crazy as both these kids are, I think Anissa is more dangerous and unhinged. Morgan seems detached but , Anissa says " we got our hopes up that everything else was real." She wanted to get rid of Bella from the get and she used slender as a way to convince Morgan. Basically Folie à deux: madness of two. They fed off each other. Terrifying

[@gjallarnews140]

Yes! Just because Anissa isn't psychotic, she's somehow fixed after 7 years? That's hard to believe.

[@iAstra]

I agree with you. I don't know why, but Anissa comes off as way more malicious. It might be that since I've known a person with Schizophrenia, I know that with the right medication and help, Morgan could be a normal person and I don't know how to help Anissa. This story's dynamic does remind me of the case much similar to this, but with much less of a clear image of mental illness. In that case the girl who was attacked sadly died.

[@gjallarnews140]

​@@iAstra It's because she was way more malicious and organized in the planning and execution. She tried to deceive eventhough she's not good at it, which may be because of isolation and the resulting social awkwardness. An interesting detail was that she had a reputation for telling on people in school. Most adults would perceive this as something positive and give her word more credence but it could easily be used to manipulate authority figures into punishing the wrong kid. Their motive seems to be very narcissistic and the hierarchical structure of Slenderman at the top and the proxies beneath reminds me of a cult. They wanted the acceptance of the cult leader and the "power" (superpowers) he would give them.

[@Icewind007]

Yes, they called it "shared psychotic disorder" in the video.

[@sambas9257]

They both deserve just compassion.They both have serious mental illness. There isn't nothing lucid in this crime. Morgan stabbed Bella just because she was the only real close friend she had..the only near person to talk with and to vent to (and to stab).Anissa was just a mirror because in her desperate loneliness she was willing to do everything for that friendship buth she hadn't any thoughts to share but fear of abandonment and jealousy. This crime has been just a consequence of their link, their bond: 1:39:31

[@zoefluke5619]

The interrogator calling slenderman “Mr. Slim” is probably the best thing to come out of all this

[@user-ov2fc5sd1e]

Slim shady 🕴🏻

[@TranquilLyric]

Will the real slim shady please stand up

[@Luuv4Music]

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[@RayCist.]

yeah i'm slim shady yes im the real shady all you other slim shadies are just imitating

[@K45A]

Bruh I didn't know Eminem was very tall and didn't have a face.

[@mariannewhittaker7025]

If Morgan's mother knew about her visual hallucinations and her odd behaviours, why the hell didn't she take her child to get the help she so desperately needed?

[@ceoatcrystalsoft4942]

Because kids say and do dumb things. Likely didn't believe it

[@michellelee5794]

I don't think it's easy to actually get mental help for a child. It is revealed that the school knew the kid had problems but they didn't seem to provide help.

[@B1ackmagic]

Because parental standards have plummeted.

[@LadyMay2427]

In the HBO documentary she said it all seemed like normal childhood imagination. But then you find out Morgan’s father had hallucinations due to schizophrenia. So yea they should have absolutely recognized this and gotten her evaluated sooner knowing the family history

[@hollygennaro5874]

More than likely, the parents didn't believe her and thought she was saying that, just to get attention. Even if her dad was schizo, they figured she was just mimicking him. I used to get bad earaches as a kid, but my mom insisted I was making it up. I'd gone to a doctor when one day my ears were painful and I had a bad headache and the doctor said for my folks to ignore me; it was fake, and I was attention-seeking. A few years later, I found out from a dentist that the headaches and earaches were from grinding my teeth so much at night. So parents will often gaffe off their kids' behaviour.

[@absynthe9820]

Reading a 12 year old child their Miranda rights and then expecting them to decide whether or not they need a lawyer is asinine. Who wrote that law?

[@castaway2850]

and making them sign a contract, as if they could ever fully understand what they’re agreeing to 🤔

[@joewalsh886]

It's ridiculous no one under 18 should be interrogated without a lawyer or parent. Just think of how many innocent kids have been manipulated.

[@mollycurran1978]

I don’t how their parents weren’t called? Or did the parents waive that right? It’s crazy they were interrogated alone.

[@intothemindshaft]

The folks voted in write the laws

[@absynthe9820]

@@intothemindshaft the crooked, cruel, and heartless folks who want to take advantage of and jail children.

[@vixenriah]

“We considered the fact that we might be questioned why we were covered in blood, but then we figured… it’s Walmart” 😭 well, she’s not wrong

[@makaipost260]

This whole story is super creepy, but that line made me laugh.

[@ZrhioZ]

That girl could be a great comedian actually, she made me laugh a lot in some parts of the interview. So sad that she almost killed her friend :/

[@lolcandyyy]

That got me thinking of “how bad is Walmart anyways?” Then I remember a bunch of stuff that happened at my near by walmarts... yeahhhh

[@zf5656]

im reading the comments, cuz i dont ahve time to watch another one of these vids. Your comment is hilarious.

[@samanthachildress1091]

Timestamp pls

[@FeedMyPets]

"she wanted to set her Sims house on fire, and starve her characters" bruh…that’s like 90% of people who play Sims.

[@Des_.]

I saw someone once put their sim's baby on the hot barbecue grill. I died laughing.😂😂 There are endless ways to tortue your Sims, it's almost like the creators made it that way on purpose.

[@JayDaGhostt]

@@Des_. 😂

[@EmresMommy]

@@JayDaGhostt because you’re the Sim GOD!!!😈😈

[@foxxgirl0715]

@@Des_. that’s actually a mod😅

[@Broockle]

Delete all the toilets and watch everybody frown ☹

[@Snarl_Marx]

"When people trust you they become really gullible. It's sad." Jesus christ, dude.

[@PaddyMcMe]

Ikr... She is terrifying. Thank heaven's she is behind bars and heavily medicated, imagine the carnage she could cause in high school or university. Get some poor gullible Alternative/Goth boyfriend who is enraptured with her and she could get him to do anything with and for her.

[@eebu4053]

mmm cockords

[@itstherealkraven]

just like how they believe she has a mental health issue and not that she is pretending to not take responsibility for her actions

[@bluebirdinthenightsky2491]

@superfluous interchangeable you need help, she's a pyschopath

[@jedznawczasypl]

@superfluous interchangeable 19. it happened 31st of may 2014 - 7 years passed. they were 12 when they commited this crime

[@FeliciaKahnke]

The fact that Anissa is out is a failure of justice. Just wow.

[@Fuerwahrhalunke]

I mean, under what conditions though. It's basically open air confinement.

[@crypt5129]

She was literally a child tbf

[@phoenixxam5812]

@@crypt5129doesnt matter

[@crypt5129]

@@phoenixxam5812 How so?

[@pitbullthedog668]

@@crypt5129she stabbed someone..

[@harmc2301]

The fact Payton was able to survive the awful attack blows my mind. I’m so glad she was able to survive

[@MaxBettsUK]

Same I’m just shocked in how bad her survival instincts are, you get that gut feeling when bad things are happening you can feel it in the air I’m surprised she didn’t have a gut feeling that she acted in

[@onlycows726]

@@MaxBettsUK well like she said, she trusted them, they didn't kick in because she still believed she wasn't in danger. In her mind those incidents were just her friends playing weird pranks

[@F1nn3gan]

exactly, props to those doctors!

[@tylerxic3241]

@@MaxBettsUK shes 12 and she trusted them.

[@jack2957]

@@MaxBettsUK bro 😂

[@teekanyel5656]

The fact that Peyton befriended Morgan in spite her being the weird, lonely, bullied kid and what Peyton got in return her for kind, caring nature was a near death experience.

[@GabrielShakkori]

She's going to have trust issues forever now

[@davemeads859]

No good deed goes unpunished the older I get the more I believe this to be true

[@qjtvaddict]

The schizophrenic don’t belong in society why do we subject the sane to these dangerous people

[@Houndoomgirl77]

@@qjtvaddict you made it so obviously that you don't know much about psychology and you're an ableist lil pissbaby in one sentence. Lol you're so pathetic

[@TiddyMcGee]

And i was just thinking to myself how i usually do the same thing. I always gravitated towards the quiet kids in class. Looking back on it i might have had 2 odd friends in my lifetime who i caught strange vibes from eventually.

[@luckdragon88]

I have a feeling Anissa is actually the most dangerous of the two. She could easily be a sociopath - someone intelligent and manipulative. She could have simply been jealous of Peyton & Morgan's friendship, so used (& potentially even fuelled) Morgan's belief in Slender Man to get her to agree to the plan. She would then have had the intelligence to pretend to believe in it too in order to gain leniency. The fact that the first thing she did in the interview was make sure they knew about Morgan hearing voices seems like a calculated thing to say.

[@brianc6272]

I Totally Agree 100% and they have made one very bad judgement letting her free, just as they did by letting poor little 'Jamie Bulger's' Killers walk Free here in the UK, that girl Anissa looks very creepy to me

[@tanyaboston6365]

This ^^^^^^ I definitely feel she is a sociopath and more dangerous then Morgan. She is extremely manipulative and I don’t understand how the jury didn’t see that.

[@Carpatouille]

Both are dangerous. You don't go around stabbing people if someone tell you to. Both were mentally ill. But one did the stabbing, the other didn't, and one was more affected by mental illnesses than the other. Again, both are dangerous. But I feel like its pointless to argue which one is the worst, as both should be looked at very carefully.

[@touchnot7334]

I thought it all came down to jealousy too, I think Anissa wasn’t down with the 3 way friendship and wanted Peyton out. Anissa knowing that Morgan was having delusions and sociopathic tendencies was able to work her into planning to kill Peyton..... I believe if Anissa did not appear in the picture Morgan wouldn’t have had the thought of killing her long time friend Peyton or even if she had, she wouldn’t have gone ahead and carry it out, Anissa was the fuel. Anissa wanted Morgan all to herself, she should have payed the bigger price for their crime.

[@brianc6272]

@@touchnot7334 I totally agree 100% Anissa is very very Devious for sure, but these video's are amazing and it sickens me to see 2 kids doing such crimes, a very very scary world we live in today for sure

[@Gin-toki]

Children should never be left unsupervised on the internet.

[@pixi_meat]

especially on vrchat

[@grumpygranny724]

Totally

[@MissTrixie29]

“children should never be left unattended on the internet.” Schools everywhere: “Here’s a computer with internet access.”

[@TheErikjsm]

the internet didnt do this, mental illness did. i will agree on the sentiment but the way its phrased is a bit silly

[@sagehasatarantula2749]

Children with obvious signs of mental illness should be better monitored and treated. This isn’t the internet’s fault.

[@CrowPlume]

Anissa's body language relaxes and opens up when she starts to talk about Slender Man and being a proxy. She went from comforting herself to seeming almost excited to get to talk about it.

[@aurorincorporated]

Yeah, because Slender is their excuse and cover...

[@ironborn8786]

She is way more responsible, the shit coming out of her mouth is hilarious. Cry me a river

[@joshagee8251]

I wonder if these young ladies will burn in hell

[@aurorincorporated]

@@joshagee8251 internally for sure. Unless they're Really good at making themselves forget.

[@frenchprincessofbellpepper1987]

@@joshagee8251 for now they walking free...

[@kristacalai9773]

Anissa appears to be much more malicious than Morgan, considering she took advantage of Morgan’s fragile mental state…yet she’s been integrated back into society. Strange. Folie à deux is frightening.

[@melodeelewis462]

There are too many excuses allowed to kill.

[@kristacalai9773]

@Protestant Baptist I don’t know if I believe in all that (I’m agnostic) but I respect your beliefs, however I definitely think we have an epidemic of mental health issues on our hand. Way more people have died from suicide than covid but we don’t make a big stink about mental health and how important it is…

[@theuniverseisme432]

@@kristacalai9773 agreed, darling. Also it’s lovely how you respectfully disagree with religious beliefs. I’d like to see this more often.

[@anootnoot7192]

@Protestant Baptist name checks out lol

[@kristacalai9773]

@@theuniverseisme432 thank you, even though I don’t believe, who am I to tell someone that their beliefs are incorrect? if it isn’t hurting anyone and helps them sleep at night, let it be :)

[@spit_milk]

I 100% believe that Anissa had a weird Jeff the Killer fantasy and Morgan, being mentally ill and desperate for friends, was willing to help her bring it to life. Morgan was Anissa's proxy all along. 🕵️‍♀️

[@frisk3538]

Fr. The fact that she brought him up and descriptively told his backstory, not to mention the haircut.. I bet she was hoping to meet him, or become more like him.

[@jaxsmiles3440]

Omg ....I agree. Annisa gives me a bad feeling ....

[@muttleyjones2]

I wish that I had said that! A very astute observation.

[@marquianalewis8104]

“Kitty now” -Annissa instructing Morgan to stab Payton

[@claude4694]

Same thoughts. Anissa seems to be very manipulative

[@reginamachamer821]

2:17:10 this really pisses me off. They decided from the fucking start that Morgan was the guilty one and Anissa was some sort of victim. Like "oh yeah you'll be going back to school dont worry" wtf?? She planned for months, and carried out, the stabbing and attempted murder of another 12 year old who she also pretended to be close friends with during those months of planning. Unreal.

[@psychotweety]

And then that Anissa is free now !! Unbelievable

[@titgriffin1512]

Just want to mention the dude who called was a real trooper and a hero. Dude was calm cool and collected after seeing a 12 year old girl stabbed on the side of the road. Gave out the information as quick as he could and in a very coherent way.

[@anayahinton]

I agree. So glad he found her, he saved her life.

[@misery8264]

As far as I know he took a path that was supposed to be closed for cyclists. If he would have taken the path he was supposed to take, nobody would've been able to help her in time. Bella had a ton of luck that day, her injuries very nearly killed her :(

[@misery8264]

@@ataridc ew, go troll someone else

[@Freeky_Deeky]

@@ataridc lol what

[@EI_Greko]

@@ataridc that's not what he meant lol

[@ellaehayward]

morgan's idea of slenderman revolves around her schizophrenia and hallucinations/delusions. annisa's idea of slenderman revolves around her obsession with the creepypasta wiki. i find it hard to believe that annisa was the follower, especially given that she invited another one of her friends to be involved in the killing... she took advantage of morgan's susceptibility and then flipped the narrative as soon as they were caught.

[@MarvinHartmann452]

​Really, it was hard to watch. I've 2 daughters who were almost the same age as these girls at the time, and I'm far from being a perfect parent, but it's something I would have noticed for sure.​ Edit: I forgot to say that having troubles to be empathic myself, and having gone through counselling as a young adult, I would have known the signs. @@DOLOJAZ

[@dharmallars]

What’s bizarre is that even though Morgan is the one who’s actually “crazy” she has a more realistic idea of everything. Anissa seemed to truly believe everything she read online about slenderman. She told morgan they would find a magic mansion in the woods. Morgan was the one who was like, uh if we try to live in the woods we’re gonna die. It’s like, Morgan’s illness may have caused her to go along with Anissa and believe this stuff even though she didn’t want it to be true. Anissa WANTED it to be true whether she believed it or not.

[@ellaehayward]

yeah, ur sooo right, my bad for agreeing with the professionals that worked with morgan and diagnosed her with schizophrenia. it’s not like people can suffer from multiple mental illnesses. i should’ve checked with you before i posted my comment, since you’re a schizophrenia expert!

[@ellaehayward]

@ImaRandomFemale i also have a family member with schizophrenia, but that doesn’t make either of us knowledgeable enough to diagnose people. morgan was diagnosed with early onset schizophrenia. it’s not your place to speculate whether or not you believe it. i understand your anger, but you shouldn’t take it out on morgan and say that you don’t believe she has schizophrenia because “that’s not how schizophrenics act” as if you’re a professional psychiatrist that has personally worked with her…

[@ghhhp]

wow there sure is a lot of people out there that have family members with schizophrenia 🤦‍♂️ my dad owns youtube you guys better stop lying before i have you banned 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ kinda sounds like what you said about doctors diagnosing everything as schizophrenia is correct and they’ve done it with all yalls family members too 😂😂😂😂 my god or is it just the just everyone else’s diagnosis is wrong except for your family members? theirs is correct right? lol

[@noonwheat]

ok to be fair the whole majority of the sims community kind of thrives on setting their sims house on fire and starving them 😭

[@hollyhayes1313]

Too true.

[@kolmenoitaayeet]

Don't forget getting them in the pool and then pulling the ladder out.

[@bethkovacs6249]

Dont forget the drowning ahahah (all jokes aside though)

[@cd55896]

I've been building fences around the pizza delivery guy for 20 years now and I turned out mostly okay lol

[@TriniLush7]

YOU MONSTERS 😂😂😂

[@user-th3ky5zw9b]

Hearing what Peyton went thru is just so scary and sad.. wobbling around holding onto trees after she got stabbed.😢😢😢 Anissa is a monster. Morgan was just a puppet.

[@amysuemoe4715]

You guys aren’t giving Morgan as much credit as she deserves. If she truly didn’t understand right from wrong she wouldn’t be lying as much as she does in the interview. She’s not stating delusions, she flat lies when she knows certain details are damning.

[@Irishqueen2023]

I don’t see how they found this to fall all on Morgan, and let anissa go. Clearly everyone here including me can see that Anissa is extremely manipulative, and very calculated. It’s unreal to me.

[@iSlashhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

Exactly and with that level of manipulation, how can we believe her that she actually thought she HAD to kill someone. It seems like she knows this will trick adults into being lenient

[@kevjtnbtmglr]

They did exactly "let Anissa go".

[@rustlemyjimmys]

Yep, everything about this is wrong! Even the fact she knew so much more about slender man than morgan seems to have been completely ignored 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Rebecca-oe4ij]

exactly! she literally said the bad part of her wanted to die

[@kevjtnbtmglr]

Literally was suppose to write "They did NOT exactly "let Anissa go".", but typod.. yet it got likes ...

[@AWF1000]

God, stabbed 19 times and survived. She is one tough girl.

[@melodeelewis462]

Special and touched by a hand of the Gods!

[@YourPalKindred]

Some people are just not meant to die it seems. Like there was a man (identified as Jamal by the Toronto Sun as he wanted to be anonymous) who survived being shot 30 times. Some of us are just built different

[@babyyoda8719]

@@melodeelewis462 what a joke , why is it always god when someone survives but when they don’t it’s “ good is testing you “ it’s getting abit old

[@Noodlepenis]

@@babyyoda8719 It’s also getting a bit old when people wanna talk down on others for their religion.

[@CreepX]

@@Noodlepenis we are all talking down on these girls religion... maybe because it's crazy... maybe...

[@mandimartin5521]

Morgan is absolutely the kid who is unintentionally hilarious by being inappropriately factual. "How many times did you stab her?" "I don't know, I didn't know I was supposed to count." Damn, dude.

[@lovinglife4327]

I felt bad for laughing 😅

[@sharijotershin1262]

I DONT think Any of This is Funny. If You think it is, You need Serious help! This is Beyond tragic and sad 😔. But I'd like to know, Where the Hell were ANY of these parent's??? And Why were these girls Allowed to be on such Dark websites at the age of 12??? They were still little girls! Slumber parties, and playing outside, looking at the flowers 💐! That's what little girls do....this is Awful. May God help us All....😪😪

[@Pherioxus]

@@sharijotershin1262 every party needs a pooper that's why they invited you

[@sharijotershin1262]

@@Pherioxus Get a Grip

[@winterramos4527]

@@sharijotershin1262 imagine the detective laughing his ass off😂😂😂 then becoming serious again

[@aimeealbertson3216]

I found this channel and have been bingeing for a week so far. My takeaway is: I am no longer going to shop at Wal-Mart. There's a crazy high ratio of murderers who go there almost immediately after their killing.

[@Dulee47]

"i hate you all, i trusted you guys." the fact that peyton said this hurt so much.

[@kaydell321]

I know I feel so bad for her thinking about what she was thinking at the last moments of her life :/

[@peytonkirk106]

@@kaydell321 thankfully Payton survived

[@azul_6.526]

@@kaydell321 she didn't die you dumb nut

[@doperagu8471]

@@kaydell321 she didn't die, luckily. Which is why we know what she was thinking in those moments. And why we have quotes of what she said in court, as pointed out in this comment and this video.

[@johnmadden4786]

ALL CAPS

[@nicolevignola3440]

Morgan literally said, I didn’t want to make anisa mad, it’s hard enough to make friends already. This is the perfect example, of a side by side of someone who is actually crazy and someone who is a sociopath, liar and a manipulator.

[@glenn1975]

1:05:48

[@ArgentLeftovers]

I mean...sociopath (old diagnosis) and things like pathological lying are ALSO mental illnesses. So she is also "crazy"

[@broforcefreedom4936]

Which one is she?

[@IDONTGIVEAFLUXify]

I don't know if it's that simple. Morgan seemed to be clueless about Slenderman and not even know his name in the interrogation and yet had plenty of drawings of him and seemed clued in about it. For all we know Morgan is the one manipulating things to appear differently. she could be a very cold calculator of how to manipulate opinions through how she presents things. We just can't really know.

[@lovehopesmilebeautifuldrea2454]

*Roses are red* *Violets are blue* *I hate you all* *I trusted you*

[@lunar4107]

Oh god “I hate you I trusted you” I’m crying. That poor sweet girl. Im so happy she’s alive but she’ll never be as trusting and kind

[@shreyanshimanu]

IFKR LIKE TF BUT I DO FEEL MORGAN WAS MANIPULATED BY ANIESSA

[@gloop7458]

I hope that she will but to the right people

[@JesusChristSaves.]

@@gloop7458 that's traumatizing man idk I hope she does too

[@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701]

Stop crying

[@ablacktemplar1971]

@@iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 why are you gae?

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

*”What makes your conscience feel guilty about killing someone?”* Out of all the interrogations/true crime cases I’ve ever learned about-this is one of the most intriguing google searches I’ve heard about a criminal looking up… I mean, it would be an incredible insight into the mind and thought process of an *adult* -but having it come from 12 year olds?! That is truly one of the most fascinating (and depressing) things ever.

[@Sofia.K.CheerYT]

Definitely psychopathic

[@glorygloryholeallelujah]

@@Sofia.K.CheerYT without a doubt! I was just fascinated that it was a question they would even think to research! Wanting to know about something so nuanced-like what/how our brains make us feel the emotion of “guilt,” just seems like quite a complex concept for an adult to ponder…but to come from a 12 year old?! Very unusual.

[@shakespearerabbit]

“At first we thought we might be questioned because of our bloody clothes, but then we realized-it’s Walmart” That logic is actually pretty flawless.

[@informitas0117]

She is not wrong.

[@vinestreetlady]

lol!!

[@killer43ful]

I was looking for this comment as soon as she said that 😭😂😂😂😂

[@avreegaileyy]

time stamp ?

[@versatileshazzie2054]

What does it mean though

[@dreapent1949]

The fact that Anissa knew almost exactly how many times she was stabbed and morgan didn't says a lot. I can't help but also feel bad for morgan as well as Payton. Anissa was way too excited to talk about some of these things; she smiled multiple times, and you could easily tell she was twisting things. It's so upsetting that she was given the lesser punishment.

[@annwithaplan9766]

I don't recall Anissa knowing how many times she was stabbed. She asked the woman how many times and the woman said 19, and Anissa said that Morgan counted 17 (however many it was, Morgan had counted 2 less).

[@Just-A-Girl-77]

Anissa said she was stabbed six times in the chest but didn't know how many times she was stabbed in the leg.

[@r4ndom7000]

The fact that Morgan is a liar says a lot, yes.

[@sn0bbylol]

@@annwithaplan9766 Morgan was totally out of it, she said 'she didnt know she was supposed to count' Anissa said she was squeamish and couldn't watch but apparently counted how many times she was stabbing her, asked about it, and then lied about how she knew

[@kaitlynzuniga]

especially since anissa was clearly the more evil one

[@JpLorimer]

This is ridiculous. The docs said annissa never showed psychosis. She obviously pushed Morgan who had no idea what was going on. And now she's free

[@510tuber]

Even if someone committed a murder or was even the mastermind behind it doesn't mean they have psychosis. KZbin psychologists who see a few clips and have knee-jerk reactions are what's ridiculous.

[@Sara.Rose.]

I have a question (31:55). When Anissa is explaining to the detective that Morgan was freaking out about the Killing. She says, “She has never done that before. She has never actually cut flesh wound into somebody”... ... Does this mean Anissa was not freaking out because she has done it before with someone else or a pet and it wasn’t her first? Not sure if I missed something but this line stuck in my mind as it seemed odd.

[@Skatingdudes]

@@Sara.Rose. reacted to the same thing.

[@TaliVarda100706]

I disagree, it was Morgan who emailed Anissa telling her to delete all of their correspondance. That is not the behaviour of someone who has no idea what is going on. I think they are definitly responsible 50/50. But Morgan being painted as an innocent, confused, sick child is not fair. She shows that she can reason logically multiple times in this interview.

[@marieanett2222]

@@Sara.Rose. i did notic the same thing...

[@ohshucks7156]

I think anissa was so overjoyed hearing about slender man. As soon as they talked about it she got better posture and confident

[@e.starling141]

She did seem VERY into talking about him. It’s clear she was more than excited to “do the deed” in order to see him. She was definitely not a passive role in this. I think they were both equally into this plan.

[@iluvnumberstations]

everyone's commenting on how well spoken the girls are, it's a product of being on the internet from an extremely young age. these girls are regurgitating the vocabulary they learned from the creepypasta wiki and from other websites. the way anissa describes slenderman, the creepypasta wiki and everything else relating to it eerily reminds me of the way I would speak to adults around me about media I liked at the time when I was their age. edit: totally not saying it couldn't be something else! i just think it could be a factor y'all

[@DevyKins]

Similar thoughts came to my mind. Kids speaking or writing when necessary is completely different when it's a topic they're invested in. It's almost like speaking to a young adult at times.

[@JohnDoe-pt7xx]

Yes and the girl is manipulating all the other girls into believing it's just her fantasy and she wants to "play"

[@primopurp3055]

FACTS AND SAME

[@utopiaOKC]

Nah. Prolly had to read books as kids. Parents who try too hard and make their kid a depressed person because nobody takes her mental.health serious

[@michaeldarkwolf9726]

Well I was born in 77 and I was never as articulate as kids these days are and I was in special educational classes. But I read a lot so people wouldn't call me stupid anymore.

[@officersbell]

*"We were wondering if people were going to question us about being covered in blood, but then we realized: It's Walmart."* That is probably the funniest thing I've ever heard said by someone who just tried to kill somebody.

[@crowmedicine3890]

I know! That was pretty unbelievable. Walmart is like the wild west.

[@kristenr8311]

She wasn't wrong! I LOL'd at that line

[@LuckyBadger]

Came here to say THIS! 😂

[@meaghenstandlee6644]

Hahaha 😂😂😂 thx for that I needed that today

[@truescotsman4103]

pathological. criminal genius.

[@Guntherandross]

Morgan: Are you trying to do this over and over again to see if I tell the story differently? Officer: 👁👄👁 no

[@boboosRoo]

That question alone "proves" shes Not delusional. She is 12 year old who stabbed her friend is ...extremely bright and knows the officer Is trying to detect inconsistencies in her story....which is not consistent with her Not knowing what is going on. She's a awkward sociopathic girl. I'm Not convinced she's schizophrenic.

[@giara1615]

time stamp?

[@ClaudiaWowPaw]

She is like : GOTTEM

[@vincebl9899]

@@lovehopesmilebeautifuldrea2454 You're so cringe.

[@elderford989]

"Am I going to regret telling you this" - what do you think? Like, obviously!

[@K.I.A..]

Update: Weire released from mental institute on Sep 2021 at age 19. She'll be under supervision untill she'll be 37 years old. Geyser's petition was denied for the 3rd time on april 2024. She's still in a Wisconsin mental facility and she is 22 year old.

[@GwynneWalkerTrujillo]

😢

[@jogadom6624]

Sounds like Weire could afford much better lawyers. She didn’t seem any less culpable in those interviews.

[@live-uj8ov]

When asked why they chose the toilet as their location. Morgan said she doesn't know she didn't choose the location, she even says "idk, maybe it's cause it was closed off". But the other girl gives a more detailed reasoning as to why they chose the toilet "we needed a drain where the blood can flow through".... And Morgan is still the mastermind? Come on!

[@xpusostomos]

When you have two batshit crazy girls, what difference does it make who is the mastermind? They are both off in la la land.

[@m0bz0mb38]

I know right! I believe Anissa took advantage of moran's schizophrenia and manipulated her into getting rid of Bella because she was jealous of her and Morgan's friendship

[@m0bz0mb38]

Morgan's*

[@peecee1384]

Could just be repeating what Morgan said to her, of course.

[@m0bz0mb38]

@@peecee1384 I disagree

[@laurakichler7107]

I just hate how Morgan's parents knew that something was wrong yet did nothing to try and get her any help.

[@vickiehaper4615]

Lock up

[@vickiehaper4615]

Stop saying her friend never was getting on my nerves hell

[@williams268]

seriously like what the fuk?

[@manolo21B]

All the parents seems careless.

[@ianschwartz08]

horrible parents.

[@lolliltaco]

god bless that man. calling the cops, not rolling her over,speaking calmly. he did a good job. and the girl she is very,VERY strong.

[@williamwhitman4889]

Payton Leutner Is warrior and great inspiration to many. Everyone loves her very much.

[@guscunnilin]

*God

[@zeuna]

Hopefully, I'll never be put in a situation as horrific... I don't want to know how strong I am...

[@holembac]

@@guscunnilin gawd*

[@naviecard5439]

He is her angel. bella had 2nd life. God blessed her goodness, considering how the main artery is closed to getting hit. 🙏

[@persephonemccarson4622]

Hearing the first girl say “my mommy” and “my daddy” in the beginning made my skin crawl. It’s just such a weird dichotomy between childlikeness and psychopathy

[@キュウリジョー]

I find it interesting that Anissa fully admitted and recognized that CreepyPastas were horror stories designed to scare people as one of the very first things she said during the interview, but she still managed to get away with pretending she thought CreepyPastas were real and that she was doing this for Slender Man.

[@romycaverly4087]

good point

[@Mysteri0usChannel]

Anissa definitely did not believe that they were real, or at least not anymore than any other impressionable young child. Morgan, however, definitely was suffering from psychosis, and Anissa used that against her, turning Morgan into a tool to carry out Anissa's plans to fulfill her urge or fascination of hurting or killing others.

[@anayahinton]

@@Mysteri0usChannel I agree

[@cate9059]

And she kept saying “apparently” when talking about it too, kinda implying that she didn’t believe them to be true which contradicts her “reasoning” for the stabbing (proving slenderman’s existence) 🤔

[@JacaboBlanco]

@@Mysteri0usChannel fucked up part is Anissa was just released and Morgan will spend her life in a mental facility. Anissa seems far more sinister to me.

[@LifeInProgress12]

Anissa throughout the whole interview was so aware of everything she did, so manipulative, so controlled and throwing these curve balls all the time to make the interogator think she was crazy. That is a very calculated, scary child.

[@Somme-one]

Yea, Morgan just seems straight up mentally damaged and anisa may have got into the other ones head. Was able to control. I dunno. All very creepy

[@Tyler-si2rj]

@@Somme-one I believed everything Morgan said. She was brutally blunt. She said exactly what she thought anissa was trying to manipulate the entire thing. I am terrified of children like that.

[@lechsiz1642]

@@Tyler-si2rj yep. people hate Morgan because she is brutally blunt and unemotional. I doubt Morgan had schizophrenia, but she certainly had a detachment disorder - but, that is almost always from poor parenting (emotional neglect).

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

A 12 y/o who uses "literature" absolutely knows

[@danieldnice7323]

She made Morgan do this...Morgan may be crazy in her own demented ways. But she never had a though in hurting someone. Until... and no consciousness to say no and tell. Bc she IS mentally incapable.

[@leseanpayne2805]

"All her teachers assumed she was acting weird for attention" "Had schizophrenia." If someone had actually assumed she wasnt just looking for attention she mightve gotten and diagnosis earlier. The narrator calls these signs representative of something sinister brewing under the surface, but thats only true in hind sight of a murder. Its just sad she was never diagnosed until after shed done something violent.

[@ArgentLeftovers]

Thing is, you can't diagnose schizophrenia at that age. Early-onset yeah, but they don't do much to curb it. Mainly because of the physiology of the developing brain.

[@leseanpayne2805]

@@ArgentLeftovers that was actually really informative.

[@boohoo6008]

Most kids seeking attention are not crazy, just stupid. They act that way to get attention. good attention or bad.

[@shaunofthedead3000]

Most kids just want attention and to fit in. That's it. And they will do stupid things to do that. Even self destructive things. Today they have far more access to a wide range of bad influences and bad ideas than even 20 years ago. Much less 40 or more. And even 40 years ago you would do something stupid to fit in. Back then it was probably doing something like a high dive into a quarry, jumping a homemade bike ramp, or some equally mundane dare. Today it's tide pods, emo culture, and creepypasta. All far worse than most of the influences of even the 90's. At best in the 90s it was rock and the budding rap music influences. In the 80's it was have bands. But even those things were minimal because you didn't see it everywhere you went. Even hearing it wasn't as common. You had to live in larger cities or buy tapes/CDs. Internet, and especially streaming services like KZbin were the real change. Both have allowed kids nearly unlimited access to all human knowledge. Good and bad.

[@galaxyaura]

Mental health is soooo misunderstood. Teachers should definitely have mental health in their training. I was missed having adhd. I'm awaiting assessment as an adult. I know it wasn't well known about back then but I really wonder how different my life would be if someone had given me the help I needed. Luckily I have a good job. It's so sad how many opportunities are missed for kids.

[@dharmallars]

Something so creepy about the way Anissa doesn’t grasp the situation at all. Like you’ve spent four or so hours telling a detective about an attempted murder, in fact you just found out mere seconds ago that your victim survived, and you think there’s a possibility you’ll be going to school on Monday. She also doesn’t seem to understand that even if she could go to school, the whole town would obviously have heard about this. She seems to think that everyone will treat this like a little fight and that it’s a thing other people will never find out about. Then launching right into infodumping about more fake monsters, thinking any of that stuff is at all relevant or helpful. Even though she just said she doesn’t believe in slenderman anymore she clearly does and is still considering all of these characters legitimate threats to people and thinks it’s helpful for her to share all her knowledge on them.

[@user-se4py5gi7x]

God bless that man who found her. asking her who did that to her just in case the situation gets worst. I'm so glad he found her.

[@user-se4py5gi7x]

@PeeCee huh?

[@emmanuallemarro3908]

I can see that sneissa is one of those pessimists who hates anyone who isn't . Morgan is yep on the edge of crazy schizophrenic. It's unfortunate but welcome to the world of internet people

[@YokaiX]

Too bad God ain't bless the victim to be spared from the attempt on her life. Instead, He let that be a part of His Plan.

[@Rain-mw9du]

@@YokaiX ok redditor

[@Dfthg-bz3hp]

@@YokaiX except she survived, Glory to God funny your attention span didn't allow you to see exactly what happened.

[@lane6216]

How hard that detective must have hugged his young daughter when he got home. This is truly shocking.

[@saraboer9974]

Fun Fact, this is the same detective from the darrel Brooks case

[@ProjectAsher1]

@@cemoihonay he looks a bit older so it was probs a mishearing

[@joannemadden7449]

My Husband was a Police Officer he was murdered six years ago. We have 3 ( now Adult Daughters ) I'm a Retired Nurse, we both worked a very large city. We were very good at holding each other when the pain and sometimes disgust at the horrendous things that humans can do to each other, even at this young age. Rest in Peace My Love ❤️💔❤️

[@lane6216]

@@joannemadden7449, I’m so sorry for your loss. My husband passed 2 years ago. Stay strong, fellow widow. 💕

[@joannemadden7449]

@@lane6216 Hi Lane thank you so much taking the time to reach out and offer your condolences. I'm so very sorry for your loss as well. I don't believe it's something "you get over" it. It's been over six years and at best it's not always as intense 24/7. I wish you well Sweetheart. It's seems you have a Little Friend on your lap, it's wonderful to have a little buddy to cuddle up with❤️🥰

[@lindseyking7875]

Has anyone else noticed that Anissa seemed very descriptive at times throughout her interrogation? She would often get up out of her chair to explain every little movement of Peyton and Morgan. She also used a wide varied vocabulary and seemed well spoken. She even understood Morgan’s mental issues before others did. She seemed pretty clever to me, other than the fact that she basically helped kill someone and could’ve backed out any time.

[@hahaha5343]

She's a manipulative con artist at the age of 12.

[@luckylucifer]

@@hahaha5343 I 💯 agree

[@Pixli0n]

I kept thinking that she has a pretty wide variety of words for a 12 year old, but wasn't sure if it's just because english isn't my first language and that's just the base level at this age.

[@hahaha5343]

@@Pixli0n nope, not just you! She has a very extended vocabulary for her age!

[@onatarabandrui8375]

Anissa is an avid reader and was actually an A student in school. Hence the vocabulary.

[@deborahstephens5963]

I didn’t know that Anissa had been released, that is unbelievably terrifying. I have come across some extremely manipulative adults but they don’t compare to this 12 year old. How in the world is she not in a facility to complete that 20 year sentence. Just hearing her talk sends chills all over. There is no part of her that is based in reality.

[@vw5056]

Being 12 when this happened is precisely why she was released. Being a minor gives you pretty much a free pass to do anything.

[@stephaniesands125]

I had to look this up and found their names reading the "Slender man stabbing" on Wikipedia. I then looked up their names. Yeah... When you're searching, look for videos on them as well. I actually found some videos with the survivor and I'm so glad she made it. That would have been so scary. That poor girl. She was such a strong girl! I feel as though Anissa was more ruthless and calculating than Morgan was. Morgan just seemed crazy. From the beginning it felt as though she was attempting to frame Morgan for everything.

[@stephaniesands125]

@@vw5056 These kids these days scare the hell out of me. Things like this didn't happen when I was a kid. Is the digital age desensitizing people this much?

[@egg_bun_]

I had no clue too. I don't know why more news outlets weren't reporting on it.

[@Sofia.K.CheerYT]

Right on spot. It seems she was able to manipulate the system

[@Erika-kw7ur]

Just so yall know, Anissa has been released while Morgan faces 40 years in a mental institution. To me this shows how manipulative Anissa is that she took advantage of her mentally ill friend and blamed her for it then was able to manipulate her way out of the mental institution she had a 20 year sentence to because they said she was "cooperative" and didn't require anti psychotic medicine. To me, this shows that she is actually the scary one and Morgan is just mentally ill. WTF.

[@Kaile.28]

This is exactly what I found out, it's sad that a manipulative, conniving person like Anissa is free to walk amongst people and yet. Morgan the mentally ill person is gonna be in a mental institution for 40 years. Anissa used her friend's mental illness to play into the dilution to commit a fantasy she wanted to do, as it seems that Anissa was fascinated with the creepypastas and Morgan wanted to take an interest in her friend's interest. I'm not saying Morgan is innocent but I'm saying she was treated unfairly because Anissa is a manipulative sociopath, and Morgan was more failed by the systems like her family, school and mental health services. And then then the judge says to Anissa "good like to you"?? SHE TRY TO KILL A PERSON

[@johnmanoch2377]

No fucking way

[@Huli-Man]

how do u know this? Anissa seems like the mastermind

[@Erika-kw7ur]

@@Huli-Man you can look it up online I think it's fucking insane

[@Erika-kw7ur]

@@Kaile.28right it's terrible and morgan needs help but I truly feel like anissa just manipulated and conned the whole system

[@troywallace7011]

Morgan talking so coldly and matter-of-factly, then she says something like "Daddy and I had sushi" and suddenly you get snapped back into the reality that this is a little kid.

[@moonlightmagick9858]

She is sadly a little kid who’s mental health was left unchecked and it resulted in the almost murder of payne

[@cosmemi]

That's the flat affect that I think EWU mentioned - it's a classic indicator as to schizophrenia or schizoid personality, also can be seen in some people with autism !

[@novanight5249]

Doesn’t change anything for me tbh

[@camobranson09]

@@t1aoronin To be fair Dads can do it too. I've a relative that refused to acknowledge that his son had autism until the kid was 4 or 5 and still unable to speak English at all. Kept blaming his wife for not teaching but I'm like, "Your older son speaks and spoke just fine at that age." Poor kid went without the proper treatment for years cause of his father's pride.

[@camobranson09]

@@t1aoronin Neither of them have any of the kids now. Legal issues and that's all the more I'll say on it. I hope they're both doing well but I don't place much faith in "the system" either having had a brief Stent in it myself when I was orphaned.

[@Pandidolod]

Anissa was the murderer. She used a little girl who was crippled by childhood schizophrenia and hallucinations to commit a crime. This is just heartbreaking. If Morgan had had parents who actually cared about her, maybe this would never have happened. Anissa would not have done this on her own.

[@rochellemcauley6828]

When she was asked if she wanted to go get help Anissa answered "no" without any hesitation, then back tracked to say "Morgan wouldn't want me to" She was the master mind and jealous of Peyton's relationship with Morgan, imo

[@dsp_91]

Payton didn’t die you know

[@josephkramer932]

I am not going to watch this again to check but I believe they said the parents did try to intervene and tried to end Payton's association with the little monsters. I don't think any parents would believe a murder was in the making and they were probably well intentioned in their actions. I personally think Bella's guardian angel intervened and Bella surviving is nothing short of a miracle. Isn't major blood loss one cause for loss of sight?

[@josephkramer932]

@@michaelhaydenbell and obviously your forefathers include apes.

[@Sparkplug.223]

If she was in on the act then the thoughts were always in her mind she was crazy there's only so much you can do for a crazy person yeah she should be in a mental hospital getting help correct forever 💯

[@kaneidareyue7715]

Morgan is mentally disturbed but Anissa is actually evil. I can't believe Anissa is released already.

[@laurenS94]

Anissa should be charged for conspiring all of this.. she introduced morgan to slender man.. she instantly jumped in to say morgan was unstable, and that it was like all her idea. Anissa gave insane detail (even acting things out) and was so calm.. I can’t imagine what the female investigator was thinking.

[@Hyperlingualism]

It's kinda crazy that Morgan was portrayed as the mastermind behind it all that pushed Anissa into it. I don't want either of them to have to be there for decades if they don't have to, I hope they both get the treatment they need and that Anissa keeps on making her supposed progress, but I feel like Anissa's involvement and instigation was so downplayed.

[@shanequashante5987]

She was thinking ..this bitch is crazy ..I need a drink and another profession.

[@Noisemansoundinsect]

But wait. 95 percent of people in comments think it’s mental illness, schizophrenia, not just lying little bullies. So how can this be so? Surely every killing must be just sick. I don’t think so.

[@forwardsdrawkcab]

All this speculation of these arm chair experts in the comments...

[@624radicalham]

@@forwardsdrawkcab Some of them are better and more accurate than the actual "psychologist graduate" that narrated this video

[@abi21891]

There's something up with Anissa. She keeps claiming it was Morgan's idea, because Morgan was super into the Creepy pastas, but then throughout her interrogation she divulged all of these details about Jeff the Killer's origin and backstory, as well as Slenderman's, and she called the website by its name, Creepypasta Wiki. Idk, but if my friend was super into something and I wasn't, I sure wouldn't cite the website by name and know all of these intimate details of the stories you can find there. I may be able to say "oh yeah she reads creepy pastas about slenderman and stuff" but to know the character's backstories and that Jeff the Killer was based on a real serial killer, and what his whole name was... It doesn't make any sense.

[@ooohmanda]

Yeah, Morgan didn't even really seem to talk about the creepypasta stuff much. Anissa seems like the one obsessed with it.

[@thesambehindtheslaughter8843]

Morgan also claimed it was a "man" and not slender man. And that she didnt now him but that anissa did. Which could mean anissa told her she knew slenderman or something to convince her to kill payton, along with morgan saying "we had to" and that he would kill our family, its messed up

[@cynthia4670]

Also Anissa literally picked both locations to murder Payton and also kept talking about how Morgan kept panicking and didn't want to do it and how she would calm her down so they could do it.

[@ooohmanda]

I watched back the part where the investigator directly asks Anissa about who showed who the creepypasta/who knew about it first. She sort of avoids answering directly who knew about it first, and instead just starts talking about how Morgan said she saw slenderman when she was a small child since she lived in a wooded area. She would not have known what slenderman was at that age. Kind of implies Anissa showed Morgan the creepypasta stuff, and perhaps Morgan remembered a strange man or imaginary thing she saw as a child and thought that was it. Or just made up a story to please her friend. I believe if Anissa had answered directly and honestly the question she was asked, it would have been her. Instead she kind of danced around it to make it about both of them

[@Bat.of.the.graveyard]

Bro..i was super in to that stuff as a kid and didnt know the real name or true backstory..

[@sarahkillip3673]

Anissa took advantage of Morgan's mental condition to get rid of Payton because Anissa was jealous of their friendship

[@marleneflanagan7137]

Morgan's mother really fell down on the job, she's had hallucinations since she was 3? No doctors care? Jeez

[@cicolasnage5684]

I’ve seen countless docos about these two dopes and I can say without a doubt the parents are 100% to blame. Instead of seeing their “quirks” as serious issues they just indulged them and did nothing about it. They coddled them if anything

[@Saucyakld]

So agree, would've taken mine straight in. Like when my young one got caught stealing. Got properly punished. Had to apologise to the person in the shop etc. She later told me it put her off stealing forever!

[@tracyniemeyer8691]

@@Saucyakld I stole when I was 11. I got a good hiding and made to apologise to shop keeper who made me work 4 weekends cleaning out his shop freezers. Put me off stealing ever

[@aurorincorporated]

Mom failed her by not even taking her to a doc ( - many kids see things at a young age). I sadly hope she’ll never be freed, because the system wont be able to help her anymore.

[@saoirserose2696]

The fact Anissa said she decided to “tag along” because “who knows how many creeps are out there” while she and Morgan are *LITERALLY* carrying a knife and plan to kill their friend, *you are the creep, honey* Then saying she defended Morgan against peers who were mean to Morgan at school, is like she’s trying to manipulate the interviewer into believing she’s a decent person, but NO!

[@1ifemare]

57:52 Incredible moment. Glad someone else noticed it too. Such a tragically ironic statement.

[@TheCommissarIsDead]

She threw her under the bus instantly aswell,like she wasn’t the only one out of the two with a clear enough mind to formulate a cognitive plan to kill someone. Morgan isn’t innocent and they both are guilty but like damn,I can’t even comprehend it.

[@eurovisionwtf]

sheep

[@danielleschiazza6172]

She was being manipulative the entire time, she is extremely narcissistic.

[@merrolmichael3370]

And trying to minimize her involvement.

[@jassandranolen7140]

Anissa literally confirms that she told Morgan she had to do it and when. HOOOWWWW did she get less time AND then only had to serve 3-4 years of the 25 years! This is WILD!

[@silentassassin47]

Because MURICA

[@highfiveentertainment298]

@@silentassassin47 white privilege

[@zaidranger666]

MURICA INDOCTRINATING LIL KEEDS TO BECOME ENTITLED PYSCHOPAT

[@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz]

@@silentassassin47really? Rather the opposite, wouldn’t you think, Galaxy Brain? It’s leftist DA’s doing this lunacy, grow a fkg brain.

[@VeggyZ]

@@silentassassin47 ahh, you mean all the left-wing activist class and how they seem to suck up to criminals every chance they get, even if it means releasing them from prison so they won't get the dreaded sniffles virus. Yep, sounds like my country.

[@Raven-ju2bu]

Its kinda scary how good Morgans vocabulary is, a 12 year old normally doesn’t talk like that

[@toreadashabanero7196]

schizotypical behaviour

[@aesopsinspiration]

The mind of Morgan is extraordinary and chilling, at the same time. It's easy to forget you're listening to a child.

[@MissaPality]

I was not aware she had been officially diagnosed as schizophrenic. I knew about the case, but this is something I must have missed

[@chambersjc85]

Yes!!!!! I was just going to comment this! Until I seen this comment

[@Lanoman123]

@@overeactive36 you can’t spell “smarter” and have an aheago PFP

[@AutumnWind92]

It is not uncommon for schizos to have better vocabulary sometimes

[@Adara007]

Morgan seems quite manipulative and the interest in Peyton's status after stabbing her are typical of Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) which is the adolescent precursor to Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD). Both ODD and ASPD with or without psychopathy are frequently under-diagnosed in females and women. Morgan and Alissa both need careful and diligent monitoring because either could go on to harm and murder again.

[@kassli9070]

Morgan had been friends with Payton since fourth grade. She didn’t want to kill her until Anissa came around. Now who was really the mastermind?? And why was it so hard to figure out ?

[@Tyler-si2rj]

And anissa insulted Payton calling her a bitch. When asked why Morgan said I don't know she was being one? When he asked what it means she didn't know what being a bitch means. And even admitted that anissa was often aggressive.... It's pretty clear why this happened. Scapegoat schizophrenic to take the fall for murder

[@JensKafe]

Anissa was a weird kid through the whole time, my coworker who was best friends with her before what happened said she would scream, pretend she was abducted by serial killers, would literally try and mutilate herself infront of friends… she was such a fucked up child…

[@christopherlowery3797]

@@JensKafe I don’t believe this for one second

[@vtheruthless1v898]

I don't get how Anissa is free yet Morgan has basically lost her life. I've heard things about Morgan's parents too and if they're true, I really feel for her.

[@simp4life556]

@@vtheruthless1v898 what was said about her parents?

[@stinkymoth]

this case makes me so sad. anissa manipulated a schizophrenic girl into stabbing the only friend she ever had. its just sad all around what happened.

[@user-md3wm7vu1f]

its plausible, but it wasnt really clear who was doing more of the manipulating or if they both just kind of egged each other on and amped up their own shared delusions. anissa comes across as more manipulative, but morgan did admit to thinking of stabbing others before and had all that violent artwork, and she seemed to believe in the slenderman creepypasta through her own volition (not just because she had been told by anissa or something), though i cant remember which one of them came up with the slenderman thing first

[@MarvinHartmann452]

Anissa was clearly mentally ill, but Morgan was the leader I believe, Anissa come off as removed, almost don't caring about what they did, while Morgan come off as delusional and obviously lacking empathy.

[@ajf369]

​@@user-md3wm7vu1fanissa is the only one to show emotion.. which speaks volumes in terms of psychology.

[@AJ-ht3kf]

"caring what they did" Anissa clearly didn't want to stab someone in order to not get in trouble. She's very manipulative.@@MarvinHartmann452

[@johnwilson1762]

And Anissa has already been released and is walking around free.

[@mandiimew2448]

I truly believe Anissa was the mastermind behind all of it and took advantage of Morgan. Anissa sure does know a lot about slender and creepy pasta for “not knowing much”

[@psychotweety]

She absolutely did. She was reeling off names, lore and all sorts more than Morgan was.

[@andrewu2480]

The fact Anissa got released is disturbing, I feel like she may have been the far more manipulative of the two. She knew she could fixate on this creepypasta crap and adults wouldn't treat her with the actual severity she required.

[@abox7825]

Its kind of fucked up to think about but since she's released we can only hope what she said in court about i.proving herself was true.

[@simosavustaja9420]

Kids at that age won't just randomly become murderers or have mental problems. Everything they do is learned from somewhere. People they learn the most are parents. So there is a huge chance that they are just victims of bad parenting. Might be some other close people also but 90% parents. IMO these kids should be punished more but i also think they are not completely responsible for their actions.

[@Blaketarded]

She even smiled multiple times in the interrogation and then quickly corrected herself when she realized it.

[@Ocrilat]

The psychologists disagree. Anissa wasn't just released. She spent 7 years in jail and a mental institution. She petitioned the court for release. Her psychologists said she was ready. She got permission from Payton Leutner and her family. She is restricted as to where she can go and who she sees, and is not allowed anywhere near the Leutner's. She has to wear a GPS anklet and be monitored 24 hours a day. Morgan also asked to be released, but she is still severely mentally ill, still hears voices, and is still a danger to herself and others.

[@Ocrilat]

Ok, looking at this more closely. Morgan was charged with attempted 1st degree murder for actually attacking Peyton. Anissa was charged with attempted 2nd degree murder (probably for conspiring and assisting). Both were charged as adults because of the brutality of the crime. Anissa pled guilty, and Morgan accepted a plea deal and pled guilty. Both were found by a jury Not Guilty by Reason of Mental Disease or Defect. Anissa's sentence was 25 years to life, which required a minimum of three years involuntary confinement, and then communal supervision till she is 37 (so counting her awaiting trial, she served 7 years in confinement). She petitioned the court, and with the ok of her doctors, the court, the victim and the victim's family was allowed to be conditionally released. The state created her release conditions, which are 24 hour GPS monitoring, she isn't allowed to leave the county, she can't have any contact with the victim or the victim's family, she has her internet monitored and she can't use social media under any conditions (social media is defined here as any site having any contact whatsoever with other people. So Facebook, but also here or even Amazon because customer reviews count). She is required to take her meds and continue counseling and treatment, and has to live with her father. These conditions apply until she is 37 (the entirety of her sentence, so another 18 years). She showed remorse for what she did, and apologized to Peyton and her community via her statement after sentencing and later written letters (taking responsibility for her actions). I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think this is technically probation, so if she violates the conditions, she goes back in. Morgan's sentence was 40 years to life. The minimum was 3 years confinement, involuntary treatment in a state facility until the age 53 or complete resolution of her symptoms (whichever happens first) and communal supervision till she is 53, regardless of her mental state. She still suffers from severe mental illness, admits to still hearing voices, and is still serving her sentence. She has appealed multiple times, but they have all failed at this point. Morgan also apologized to 'Bella' when she was sentenced, so also showed remorse. (edited for clarity, and my 1000 dumb typos)

[@tarynnsandera475]

(Sorry if this has been commented already, I'm only 2:45 into the video) When the dispatcher asked the biker "Is there any assailant around?" and the biker said "I didn't even look, I don't see anybody" really shows how focused this man was on making sure that Payton was stable and okay. He "didn't even look", he didn't think about his own safety and make sure the attacker wasn't still there, he thought about Payton's well-being and only that. What an absolutely amazing human being.

[@dave14256]

You know thats why in my emt class they were very loud about letting police make sure a scene is safe before hopping out and trying to save a victim of a shooting or stabbing because people stick back and they will ambush ems like this dude could have ended up dead real quick. It's a sad thing to be tolled you have to sit in that ambulance and wait while a person's dying like that

[@margodphd]

He's a hero and I hope he was distinguished and rewarded. That kind of behaviour, bravery and selflessness needs to be praised. People need positive models, positive proof that goodness still exists in people...

[@humanentity5890]

Or a fool. You don't render aid without measuring the threat. This is practiced in reality by professionals - and saves lives. This guys isn't an amazing human being, he's flawed for not considering the entire picture. Yes, he rendered aid to a helpless victim, but he might have ended up another victim under slightly different circumstances.

[@Iamthatguypal820]

@@dave14256 i have never seen or heard of this happening. i am not trying to deny what u are saying i would just like to know where i can find this statistic.

[@dave14256]

@nickbakula8184 I don't know the statistics I was just told this in class. Maybe they were talking about just cops getting abused. Again I don't know the stats I was just told of ems getting ambushed.

[@Gojirilla]

It's really messed up how Anissa was released from the mental hospital. She clearly is the more devious and manipulative one. While Morgan did the stabbing, its very obvious she's mentally unwell and was manipulated to some extent.....The fact that Anissa may not even be serving her full sentence is pretty upsetting especially I'd imagine for Payton and her family.

[@giaol4411]

I agree. That's a huge slap in the family and the victim. I can't believe they allowed it. I believe Morgan is where she belongs in a Mental Institute and Anissa belongs in prison.

[@AnxiousTrap]

just her comment telling the judge "ive exhausted all the recourses here and i need to become a part of society" or whatever.. gave me pure psychopath vibes, no emotion robotic.

[@Jenacide]

I don't buy it. They both seem like cold blooded manipulators to me. Morgan leans way too hard into the poor innocent widdle crazy girl.

[@wangson]

@@Jenacide I hear you.

[@alexnoah6953]

Anissa is free and Morgan the one who is sick kept away from her family not fair : (

[@gearbeezy]

I was so relieved to see that Peyton made it through this. I’ve seen a lot of crazy crimes, but there’s something extremely chilling about these two kids. It’s a different kind of chilling than the other horrendous crimes covered on this page.

[@destinijarvis9524]

I don’t understand how this was overlooked, when anissa starts talking bad about morgan she stops crying and breaking down, she’s not just speaking out of panic or pain because she stops crying to carefully choose her next words before she speaks

[@Bowblaxian_Tricknology]

I was thinking the same thing. Anissa kept dropping hints that Morgan was the mastermind as well

[@Peachyy.Delights]

I've seen in another one of these that it's hard for people to multitask in these situations, they have trouble faking and lying at the same time. So she could very much be lying about Morgan being the "mastermind", for lack of a better word. I'd believe it, Anissa showed wayy too many signs of being more involved than she made herself seem.

[@TheBaumcm]

I am a former teacher. Without exception, every student who was a “teacher’s pet” of this sort, the ones who used it so they could terrorize other students and get away with it, were malignant narcissists. It both bolstered their ego and credibility and gave them more power.

[@Rachaelann59]

Anissa is in more control than she fooled many into believing. She clearly had more knowledge of Creepy-pasta from her level of detail on the subject matter, then projected her beliefs onto her mental friend; only to put full blame on her also. She is clearly manipulative & I don’t doubt she fooled those who petitioned for her release… Hopefully, this isn’t a, “to be continued..” for her manipulative capabilities. I am proud of Payton & hope she continues to be the ultimate victor!

[@Unfiltered_from_The_Bronx]

Oh ok, because mentally unstable ppl can't manipulate someone who has a better way of communicating... Come on! She was purposely evasive! She put blame all on Annisa, yet Annisa told about all the in between Morgan failed to talk about. Not only did she talk about all of Morgan's part in this crime, but also took blame for her part in all this. Morgan was a time bomb ready to explode, whereas Annisa would most likely have never done something like this alone. Morgan in a few year's would have been shooting up the whole school!

[@hkislam7297]

Yeah Annissa is in contr for sure. Even when she showed signs of being upset it was not for empathy of another but for her own self. I tuely think that she is a sociopath. Who preyed on morgan. Yes Morgan had issues but along come Annisa the jealous third wheel wispering in Morgans ear and all of a sudden Morgans long time best friend has to die? When ever you see acts of violance in a friendgroup it is either the new girl gets killed or the new girl is the manipulator to kill the long term friend.

[@BarbaricCrafter1]

Don't forget it was Morgan's notebook that was loaded with imagery of Slender Man. Morgan most likely felt in a moment of clarity that killing someone for Slender Man would be ridiculous or wanted to avoid explaining who Slender Man was to the officer. Though she's both legally mentally impaired and a child at the time, so who's to say why she left that info out to the investigator at first. Her notebook, however, speaks for itself. I'm surprised EWU didn't note that the imagery was heavily reflective of the 8 pages.

[@destinythompson4248]

Yes Anissa kept encouraging it, Morgan kept trying to back out.

[@libetop]

Wait. People are petitionning for mentally diseased killers to be released?

[@idkokay9786]

anissa so clearly took advantage of morgans mental state. you can see how good she is at manipulating in the interrogation. unreal she got let out so early

[@xpusostomos]

They are both batshit crazy. I don't think you can talk about one taking advantage of the other.

[@nicoliemacaroni2053]

@@xpusostomos Ever worked in mental health? Do you have a mental illness/deficiency? No? Ok sit down. #1 brain development needs to be taken into account. These girls were 12 at the time and very impressionable with or without mental illness/deficiency. Anissa clearly tries to manipulate the interrogator multiple times and instantly tries to throw Morgan under the bus. #2 Anissa was also said to be violent and also tries to paint herself as some sort of hero by "protecting Morgan from bullies". I could go on, but I haven't gotten much sleep soooooo bye.

[@xpusostomos]

@@nicoliemacaroni2053 maybe she did protect her from bullies. Maybe her throwing her under the bus was just the truth. Or maybe it was lies. What difference does it make to what I said?

[@MercurialCorsair]

Feel like after that prison sentence the bus should take them to the mental hospital for the next 70 years

[@BeeaReyoU.]

Thats what happened. Poor little girl is obviously much more immature than Alissa and she had severe schizophrenia. Alissa sounds much more manipulative than a girl her age should be. Then you have Peyton who was friends with Morgan just because she was a good kid who saw Morgan didn't have any friends of her own, so glad she survived.

[@jasontoddybro]

that's why you don't give your kids unsupervised internet