Exploring Liminal Spaces: A Workshop with Andrew Holecek

[@AlreadyImmortal]

This place is a Dream, only a Sleeper considers it Real- then Death comes like Dawn and you Wake Up laughing at what you Thought was your Grief... Rumi

[@giantessmaria]

wonderful stuff! Seems we spend the first half of our lives being gaslit by society and culture, and the second half trying to undo all the damage. And thats if we're even lucky enough to become aware of that gaslighting at all! thanks again, fabulously enlightening!

[@Norbu421]

How about taking a tiny bit of responsibility... Society IS all of us...

[@norbu316]

😂wahahaaa, norbu , they're talking about their society. Everyone is the centre of their own society,it seems.

[@timothylcarson1]

Interestingly, in one of my liminality seminars at the University of Missouri, one student made a presentation on the liminal category of "permanent liminality" (ongoing, indefininite states), his assessment was from Buddhism, and he assessed "permanent liminality" as a non-starter precisely because everything is transitional!

[@seamlessyorkshiredales]

Thanks Andrew, great information as always.

[@notthisnotthat2023]

Very much appreciated.

[@norbu316]

This is soooo good. Thankyou

[@jazzdakini]

I'm just starting to listen to this. As a young woman, I implore you, please, stop using vocal fry....it speaks of laziness, powerlessness, not finding your authentic voice. Andrew is interesting to hear. But please....please....consider your voice and what it says and projects about you.

[@bassmonk2920]

Some people seek out the help of speech pathologists as they feel vocal fry makes them appear unsure and less confident.[18] Researchers have found that young adult women who use vocal fry are perceived as less competent and less hireable, compared to males using vocal fry.[12] Some argue that these perceptions are part of a broad attack on women's speech,[18] noting how male voices with vocal fry carry different, and sometimes opposite, connotations.[19] Vocal fry in spoken English is generally seen as a negative characteristic in the workplace, but a study by Duke University researchers has determined the phenomenon is becoming more common and socially acceptable

[@alleverythingempty]

Or, maybe that’s just how she talks and you’re overthinking it? From Wikipedia on vocal fry: “ Some people seek out the help of speech pathologists as they feel vocal fry makes them appear unsure and less confident.[18] A study in 2014 found that young adult women who use vocal fry are perceived as less competent and less hireable, compared to males using vocal fry.[12] This study has since been criticised by the linguist Rusty Barrett however, as the recordings used as stimuli were of participants imitating vocal fry, rather than of speakers who use it in their normal speaking voice, with participants naturally sounding less confident when imitating a speaking style not their own.[19] Some have argued that negative perceptions are part of a broad attack on women's speech,[18] noting how male voices with vocal fry carry different, and sometimes opposite, connotations.[20]”

[@areiorum]

Hola, Gracias!