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@thelthrythquezada8397
@thelthrythquezada8397 3 ай бұрын
The day I realized that Jesus IS Jehovah my brain blow up... I was raised in that religion but didn't care for it at all. (c.1983-1995ish) it wasn't till 2017 when The Lord knocked on my door and I was happy He did.
@JennaSakura
@JennaSakura 3 ай бұрын
If Jesus is Jehovah, who sent Jesus then?
@thelthrythquezada8397
@thelthrythquezada8397 3 ай бұрын
@@JennaSakura hi Jenna, I need time to unpack that. You have to unlearn a lot of what you have been taught. But read Psalms 102 and tell me who the Psalmist is talking about. Then read Hebs 1 and tell me who the writer of Hebs is talking about. In Genesis the pre incarnate Christ goes to see Abraham, what name did he call him(Jesus) then read Gen 19:25-25 very slowly where “and the LORD called down xyz from the LORD in heaven” paraphrasing…
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 2 ай бұрын
"The day I realized that Jesus IS Jehovah my brain blow up." You need to repair your brain because Jehovah and Jesus are not the same person. Consider... 1a. Jehovah is the Most High. As Ps. 83:18 says: "May people know that you, whose name is Jehovah, You alone are the Most High over all the earth." 1b. Jesus is not the Most High, but the Son of the Most High. As the angel said to Mary at Luke 1:30, 31: "And look! you will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High." 2a. Jehovah is God's name. As Ex. 3:15 say: "This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever." 2b. Jesus is the name of the Son of God. As John 20:31 says: "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name." As you can see, Jehovah and Jesus are two different persons.
@Kristy_not_Kristine
@Kristy_not_Kristine 2 ай бұрын
​@@JennaSakuraHis Father.
@JennaSakura
@JennaSakura 2 ай бұрын
@@Kristy_not_Kristine exactly
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 3 ай бұрын
"Whoever has the Son" is the channel of Husain, a Muslim turned Christian... He does great work also! But love your ministry DH! Very informative and one of those videos I'll be watching again and taking notes! Just started a study with a sweet JW that came to my door and will definitely be using these scriptures! Praying she'll find the real Jesus🙏🏼 and thank you again for your time and deep dive into these very important topics! God bless you and your family and ministry!
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@anniesavedbygrace
@anniesavedbygrace 3 ай бұрын
Thankyou Brother this is really helpful. Much appreciated x
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
The teaching of ONE BEING with MANY persons came from the demons such as LEGION AND COPIED BY PAGANS. Luke 8 Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
T IS NOT A COINCIDENCE that pagans have a form of one being with MANY PERSONS for GOD and the difference in their ROLES. Remember LEGION in the Bible? -the SINGLE BEING appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he IS ONE.' Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@Fjmaster2023
@Fjmaster2023 3 ай бұрын
Nice video man..keep it up..
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 3 ай бұрын
Excellent work!
@richbaker7187
@richbaker7187 3 ай бұрын
The logical fallacy of the JW is that they have equated "Jehovah" as being ONLY the Father. So the bible doesn't say Jesus claimed to be the FATHER, but He claimed to God in many, many passages, as shown in this video. AGAIN. Jesus doesn't EVER claim to be the Father. So JWs? STOP straw manning the Godhead.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
The teaching of ONE BEING with MANY persons came from the demons such as LEGION AND COPIED BY PAGANS. Luke 8 Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@keithgriffin6491
@keithgriffin6491 2 ай бұрын
Amen , well said!!!
@amc3463
@amc3463 2 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914your cult is going to hell 😂
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
@@amc3463 just your FALSE and twisted opinion. YOU CANNOT DENY HISTORICAL FACT that your paganized Trinity was MAN-MADE and formulated after about 400 years - FROM BRITANNICA - The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, St. Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of St. Basil of Caesarea, St. Gregory of Nyssa, and St. Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
@@amc3463 IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE that pagans have a form of one being with MANY PERSONS for GOD and the difference in their ROLES. Remember LEGION in the Bible? -The SINGLE BEING appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he IS ONE.' Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@thelthrythquezada8397
@thelthrythquezada8397 3 ай бұрын
I just got power back on from Milton. But the Lord created me to be a preper so I was cool
@JerryJohanan
@JerryJohanan 2 ай бұрын
We hope everything is ok
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
It always amazes me when JWs say that Jesus is the Son of God but not God, and yet they somehow forget John 5 v 18 " He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was his Father, making himself EQUAL WITH GOD" So, every single time he referred to himself as the Son of God and God being his Father, he was making himself equal with God. This is plain and simple to any person that can read! The Jews, unlike the JWs understood it perfectly as they tried to kill him!
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
you believed those Jews who wanted to Kill Jesus and thought Jesus SINNED by breaking the Sabbath and whom Jesus said are from their father, the father of lies.
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 it amazes me how many hoops a Jehovah's witness has to go through to try to manipulate the text. Did you watch the video above or are you just here to comment again?
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 are you therefore admitting that the Jews believed that Jesus was equal to the Father?
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
@@markshark1613 Nope, only THOSE Specific Jews as they were wrong in saying that Jesus SINNED by breaking the Sabbath and as Jesus mentioned, those Jews were from the FATHER OF LIES, so why would you believe them? and as Jesus mentioned to them "and you do not have his word residing in you," so those Jews were wrong
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 have you read a few verses later in John 5 v 23? " That all should honour the Son JUST as they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son does not honour the Father who sent him" So if you honour the Father as Jehovah, and Jesus himself says you need to honour him in the same way, then I want a simple yes or no answer. Do YOU honour the Son just as you honour the Father?
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
" I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep" Jesus in John 10 v 11. Compare with Psalm 23 v 1 " Jehovah is my shepherd I shall not want" Jesus is the good shepherd; Jehovah is the shepherd. A Jehovah's witness at this point will have to then say that Michael the archangel is The good shepherd, a title reserved for Jehovah 😅
@Reyseer.25
@Reyseer.25 3 ай бұрын
The thing is they make angels equal to God and say, without saying satan whos an angel (was) and all other fallen with him, and the others like Michael gabriel .are the same Colossians 2:18 [18]Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
@davidagnew8792
@davidagnew8792 3 ай бұрын
Jesus is the chief of the shepherds (1 Peter 5:4 ESV). Like the chief of the angels (Daniel 10:13 LSV, Young's). 1 Peter 5:4 (Jubilee): "And when _the great Prince_ of the pastors shall appear." Daniel 12:1 (ESV): "At that time shall arise Michael, _the great prince_ ." How many _great princes_ are there? Do you think God would only appoint "one of the chief princes" over his nation Israel? Jesus is Michael the chief of the angels and the chief of the shepherds.
@Reyseer.25
@Reyseer.25 3 ай бұрын
@@davidagnew8792 you like confuson it seems
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
@@davidagnew8792 I've spent half the day hearing bible butchering from your watchtower mate on my other comments. Forgive me for not entertaining it here too. If you think that Jesus can call himself the Good Shepherd (and remember he said that no one is good but God alone), and as the chief shepherd who gives eternal life, judges the world and separates the sheep from the goats, all titles and functions of God alone then I truly despair at the extent of biblical, exegetical and hermeneutic mangling of the bible from the Russelite faithful! Go look at the meaning of the word "eisegesis". The watchtower has with no shame at all before God and man, been done this since 1880.
@davidagnew8792
@davidagnew8792 3 ай бұрын
​@@markshark1613Is Jesus unique or just one of several _great princes_ ?
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 3 ай бұрын
The issue that I have with the website JW under the subject :Is It Clearly a Bible Teaching?: from Historian Arthur Weigall who is well known to hate against Christians and the Trinity. Why would the watchtower use him as a source? Arthur Weigall hated Paul calling him a fake teacher.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
The teaching of ONE BEING with MANY persons came from the demons such as LEGION AND COPIED BY PAGANS. Luke 8 Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 Ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Dude, I got you in the corner so many times. You lost get over it. You haven't addresss anything I posted from the therapist whhiiicccchhhh I'm still waiting.
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 Ай бұрын
Tell you what, when we have live debate about the Tinrity I'll send you a link where you can hop on but a camera has to be turned on.
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 Ай бұрын
By the way, I'm working with these three JW visiting my house for the past 3 weeks. Look like they about to cross over. after showing them the errors on your precious NWT bible
@mmltpb14
@mmltpb14 3 ай бұрын
Hello DH, Would you mind clarifying something up for me? You’ve mentioned before(and in this live) that Rev 12 is a “rewind” of things that have already happened. Where in the book does this “rewind” happen? Is it in chapter 12? Is it sooner? When does it end? (Hopefully this makes sense) Thanks and awesome job
@ronhansen8471
@ronhansen8471 Ай бұрын
The woman is God's heavenly organization that would produce Jesus Christ, and the dragon is Satan. A 1/3 of the stars are the angels Satan corrupted into following him. The child is Jesus Christ. Obviously, Jesus Christ was born on earth grew up and was sacrificed under Satan's systems. He returned to heaven was made king and his 1st act as king was to evict Satan [ The fiery colored dragon ] and his demons from heaven and confine them to the earth. From that day forward Satan's only goal is to put humans in a position that forces the true God to bring destruction against the earth at Armagedón. In the near future after religion has been shut down Daniel says a great war will start and its purpose is to shut down all the world's governments. (Daniel 2:44) “In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever" Whoever supports the earths kingdoms instead of God's kingdom will be defeated. The bible says that people will try and hide in the caves and cracks of the mountains. Another words people go to their political allies [ the mountains ] for protection but does no good. Revelation 6:15-17 15 Then the kings of the earth, the high officials, the military commanders, the rich, the strong, every slave, and every free person hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rocks: “Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” Compare Isaiah 2:19-21; and Ezekiel 33:27. The only hope for mankind is God's kingdom by Jesus Christ
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
To those that I was engaged with in lengthy conversations, I literally am unable to respond to comments. KZbin seems to be removing them or there is a technical glitch. This comment will post but its when I respond to a comment, it disappears as soon as I post it
@enoughisenough2696
@enoughisenough2696 3 ай бұрын
Happened to me too.... But sometimes if you select "newest first" from the comments instead of "top comments" I was able to see them......
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons why I try not debate in KZbin. Every time I prove a point, KZbin deletes the comments. Now, Instead of waiting JW knokcing on my door. I go to them lol and see their faces drop. But I go to them in peace of course and help them who is the real Jesus not made up by watchtower
@pearlytiger564
@pearlytiger564 2 ай бұрын
I have this same issue. It doesn’t matter how respectful I am with my wording …instant deletion. It’s so frustrating, especially when you take time to type it out only to have it deleted. I copy and paste my comments into a word doc before I reply in case it’s deleted. KZbin is censoring people.
@JOEJOE9664
@JOEJOE9664 2 ай бұрын
@@pearlytiger564 Yup me to. Sometimes I use Chat AI and asked " rephrase comment for youtube" lol
@pearlytiger564
@pearlytiger564 2 ай бұрын
@@JOEJOE9664 haha! That’s nuts that we would even have to do that. No freedom of speech. And even if someone is being a disrespectful t00l, let them, that’s their right if they’re want to be an @ss. It’s also what the block feature is for, or we can be adults and just ignore it.
@richiejourney1840
@richiejourney1840 Ай бұрын
😂pray for me, I’m a chocolate chip cookie hater. Take out the chocolate and we will talk…
@aaronwood8012
@aaronwood8012 2 ай бұрын
One can never really reach another - unless you UNDERSTAND each other - you are making a Herculean effort to … understand
@aaronwood8012
@aaronwood8012 2 ай бұрын
Please forgive the pagan god reference lol
@mattgardiner614
@mattgardiner614 3 ай бұрын
I see the deletions of comments have started already. I'll try this again. See if a little editing makes a difference. The Elephant in the room (For those not willfully ignoring it), is that there is plenty of variety in the Translations that you would no doubt find more acceptable. Why would there even be a need for multiple Translations if they are all word-for-word the same? Many modern translations leave out 16 verses found in the King James and other older versions. (Matthew 17:21; 18:11; 23:14; Mark 7:16; 9:44 & 46; 11:16; 15:28; Luke 17:16; John 5:3b & 4; Acts 8:37; 15:34; 24:6-8; 28:29; Romans 16:24; 1 John 5:7,8) Apparently, the NEW King James Version contains an "estimated 100,000 changes, averaging 80 per page." Catholic Bibles of course have their 'Apocrypha' and (I think?) include all the 'Spurious' verses. (No doubt misterauctor will be along soon to make common cause with the rest of you, accusing JW's of 'Changing' the bible) So, yeah. Utter Hypocrisy being shown yet again. A very, VERY dark pot calling the kettle black.
@ashleymarie8860
@ashleymarie8860 3 ай бұрын
There is a difference between translations saying the same thing but in various ways versus taking scripture and twisting and changing the meaning or message.There is a great video on youtube showing how the Jehovahs witness interlinear shows they translate a verse correctly showing the greek under the english words but once it gets into the New World Translation it is mistranslated. Some are a mere few verse down. So they translated it properly then later somehow forgot how? That is not by accident. It changes the meaning which is deceitful. I studied with Witnesses on and off for several years. I finally seen things for what they were before getting baptized. I started to research outside the Org which is not allowed. It has brought me closer to the actual Truth. I thank God for that!
@nparksntx
@nparksntx 2 ай бұрын
The reason translations have changes compared to the KJV is because since the KJV was written more and older manuscripts were found. The older manuscripts did not have those verses. These footnotes are found in most modern translations. Not all translations are word for word either.
@nparksntx
@nparksntx 2 ай бұрын
The original KJV contained the apocryphal books at the end of the KJV Bibles. It wasn’t until sometime in the early 1800s that it was taken out.
@pesesitademar
@pesesitademar 3 ай бұрын
Just so you know the note in Hebrews 1:10 is not found in the Spanish NWT version😢😒
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
you are telling a pure lie. Heb 1:10-11 of NWT states - También dice: “En el principio, oh, Señor, tú colocaste los cimientos de la tierra, y los cielos son obra de tus manos. 11  Ellos dejarán de existir, pero tú seguirás viviendo; ellos se desgastarán igual que una prenda de vestir
@pesesitademar
@pesesitademar 2 ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 I’m not talking about the verse. I’m talking about the note* for that verse when you click on the #10. It’s not there in the Spanish translation
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
@@pesesitademar SO IF THERE is NO NOTE, it just means there is NO NOTE yet (maybe because they are not complete yet in making or translating the notes) and it does not mean there is NO NOTE EVER
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
IT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE that pagans have a form of one being with MANY PERSONS for GOD and the difference in their ROLES. Remember LEGION in the Bible? -The SINGLE BEING appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he IS ONE.' Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@cbooth151
@cbooth151 2 ай бұрын
It's getting late, so, I only have a little time to debunk this guys absolute lies. So, what I'm going to do is comment on part #1, which is, "Finding the Real Jesus." So, here we go. Who is Jesus? Is he God? Or is he the Son of God. Well, before Jesus was born, an angel said to Jesus' future human mother : "And look! you will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you are to name him Jesus. And for that reason the one who is born will be called holy, God’s Son. (Luke 1:31, 35) So, was Mary's future Son God or the Son of God? The answer should be obvious. So, now that we "found" the real Jesus, just who is he? Is he God or is he the Son of God? Well, on one occasion, Jesus asked his apostles, "Who do you say I am?” (Matt. 16:15) Now, how many of those apostles called Jesus God? Answer: NONE OF THEM!! Instead, Peter said to Jesus: "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” (V 16) So, again, now that we've "found" the real Jesus, who is he? God or the Son of God? What do you say? The person in the video said about JWs,, "Even in their twisted version, you can still come to the conclusion that Jesus is God." Do you agree with him? Is Jesus God or did he claim to be the Son of God? Well, did Jesus' contemporaries say about him? Consider... Why did the Jews at John 5:18 want Jesus' dead? Was it because he claimed to be God? Well, John 5:18 says: "This is why the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but *he was also calling God his own Father." Why did the Jews at John 19:7 want Jesus dead? Was it because he claimed to be God or was it because he claimed to be the Son of God? The verse says: "The Jews answered him: 'We have a law, and according to the law he ought to die, because he made himself God’s son." During Jesus' execution, did the religious leaders say they overheard Jesus' claim to be God? Well. Matt. 27:43, they said: "He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son.’ (Matt. 27:43) I encourage everyone who heard the video above to read the quotes I referred to in his/her Bible. There you will see that your Bible agrees that Jesus is the Son of God, NOT God himself. At John 17:1, 3, Jesus called his Father, "the ONLY true God."
@LightoverDarkMinistry
@LightoverDarkMinistry 2 ай бұрын
What’s your response to the verses I listed? Nothing you mentioned disprove the divinity of Christ, as the doctrine holds that Jesus is the Son of God and God incarnate.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Jesus is NOT GOD incarnate. Jesus is the SON OF GOD who became flesh
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 2 ай бұрын
It's best to let Christ speak for Himself, in His own words, by His prophet Isaiah. "Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and the Last; Besides Me there is no God." 44:6 Christ has identified Himself using these names and titles: LORD. King of Israel. Redeemer. LORD of hosts. First and Last. God. The deity of Christ is the cornerstone of Christianity, as supported by scripture.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
@@mattmurdock2868 just having the same title does NOT make you GOD automatically. You have to consider the CONTEXT. Jesus is called the LIGHT OF THE WORLD, and the Apostles are called the same title. Are the Apostles GOD or Jesus themselves? Nope. so you are wrong. Isa 44 IS NOT talking of Jesus Christ. it is talking of JEHOVAH, OUR FATHER who is DIFFERENT from JESUS, the SON OF THE FATHER, THE SON OF THE MOST HIGH, JEHOVAH. Psalm 83:18
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 2 ай бұрын
@Mr.DC3.1914 The titles shared by Father and Son..."LORD" and "God." There is no crown and title swapping in the kingdom of God, no such chaos and confusion. Our Father is not stealing from His Son; He has titles of His own.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
against Hermogenes Understand what he described Jesus as had AN AUTHOR TO BRING IT INTO BEING mean? AND understand what he said when mentioned that the FATHER IS OLDER AND MORE POWERFUL than Jesus, the Wisdom of God (whom he called BORN AND CREATED)? READ FROM TERTULLIAN AGAINST HERMOGENES - CHAPTER 18 - Let Hermogenes then confess that the very Wisdom of God is declared to be born and created ... Let Hermogenes then confess that the very Wisdom of God is declared to be born and created, for the special reason that we should not suppose that there is any other being than God alone who is unbegotten and uncreated. For if that, which from its being inherent in the Lord was of Him and in Him, was yet not without a beginning - I mean His wisdom, which was then born and created, when in the thought of God It began to assume motion for the arrangement of His creative works - how much more impossible is it that anything should have been without a beginning which was extrinsic to the Lord! But if this same Wisdom is the Word of God, in the capacity of Wisdom, and (as being He) without whom nothing was made, just as also (nothing) was set in order without Wisdom, how can it be that anything, except the Father, should be older, and on this account indeed nobler, than the Son of God, the only-begotten and first-begotten Word? Not to say that what is unbegotten is stronger than that which is born, and what is not made more powerful than that which is made. Because that which did not require a Maker to give it existence, will be much more elevated in rank than that which had an author to bring it into being.
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 ай бұрын
i have never needed to be spiritual, do i need to get a religion? saying that what if i don't see any value in a belief of a god or a need to be saved, i mean what do i need to worry about being saved from what or whats beyond what i have now.? these questions are genuine and not to vex anyone. i have a happy and fulfilled life now and curious why people need to believe in something unseen.
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
The answers to your question would probably take a whole day to write 😊 so I'll be very brief. It's not about trying to be spiritual or have a religion or wanting to believe in something unseen. Many of us have experienced Jesus in remarkable ways. He has changed us from the inside out and He is the one that has shown us his love and existence. But ultimately it comes down to one thing...who is Jesus. When you see what he claimed for himself, what miracles he did, how he transformed the very society we live in, that he claimed he would rise from the dead and as a fact of history over 500 people saw him after his death, one cannot ignore this. So I urge you, look into him, research him. That same God has given you free will. I urge you to use it to look into his claims and the evidence for the bible. God bless 😊
@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 3 ай бұрын
@@markshark1613 thank you for the reply.
@RowanTasmanian
@RowanTasmanian 3 ай бұрын
@@markshark1613 Great answer Mark, it's a pleasure to read your comments. Always well thought out and concise. Thanks Mate.
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
@@RowanTasmanian thanks for the encouragement. Hope you are well?
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
If you want eternal life, as Jesus said you have to know the only true God who is the Father and whom the Father sent Jesus Christ. John 17:3
@lonahulbin1493
@lonahulbin1493 3 ай бұрын
Oh, the governing body explains that the glory for Jesus is different from the glory of the father. The father‘s glory is always higher than the glory of the son. That is just the latest explanation from the governing body . I heard about that listening to the governing body yesterday where they explained two different glory, father from the son.
@richbaker7187
@richbaker7187 3 ай бұрын
Why not? They have many "twos" They have 2 gods They have 2 hopes They have 2 destinations They have 2 classes of people They have 2 "great crowds" They have 2 Saviors They have 2 Alpha and Omegas and.... They have 2 sides of their faces that they talk out of.
@mattmurdock2868
@mattmurdock2868 2 ай бұрын
None of the teachings from Watchtower can be found in scripture. "And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was." Jn.17:5 All of the teachings from Watchtower can be easily debunked with scripture.
@richbaker7187
@richbaker7187 2 ай бұрын
@@mattmurdock2868 For a sane person, yes, but for a cult member, they will believe ANYTHING their precious GB says. Anything, Like that elastic generation thing. Or the 2nd chance resurrection for everyone thing.
@mattgardiner614
@mattgardiner614 3 ай бұрын
I'll get to the video in a bit, but first I want to say that I find your introductory text comment under the video rather patronizing. You tell your audience that they can use the Bible to 'Reach' us. How? By coming up to us with single verses (In total isolation, in my experience, when I'm out-and-about) and some spiel about how it means something totally different from what I know it's saying when looked at in context and cross-referenced with other verses? Now that I think on it, here on this channel, half the CA's (Christendom Adherents) I converse with, don't use scripture at all. (They know who they are) JW's read every word of every verse of every chapter of every bible book, and that's just for the 'Treasures from God's Word' part of our midweek meeting. We get through the entire Bible, cover-to-cover, in around 2 years or so. And then repeat. This is in addition to our personal Bible reading, (I'm on 1st Kings at the moment), personal study, our Congregation Bible Study, WT study, Family Worship, our studies with Bible students, and researching and preparing our meeting parts. We spend more time immersed in the bible than your average Christendom adherent, BY MILES. The only Witnesses who would ever fall for something like that are ones who are consciously or sub-consciously looking for an 'out' anyway.
@shayquinn572
@shayquinn572 3 ай бұрын
Hey Matt hope you make it to Wakeupville
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
@@shayquinn572 The teaching of ONE BEING with MANY persons came from the demons such as LEGION AND COPIED BY PAGANS. Luke 8 Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 Ай бұрын
Matt... I'm sure you wholeheartedly believe what you wrote there. In reality, every witness I know (all of my in -laws) and my "book study conductors" don't read their Bible much at all. They can't quote a verse besides maybe the few that watchtower uses all the time... New light, bad association. Knowing the true God... And it's never in context. Most of the time in our "study" they don't even want to read the whole verse, let alone read the context around it. I've asked if we could just read the Bible alone in ONE of our studies, maybe just go thru John or Romans or any book from the new testament and they actually said NO... They can't do that. We are going on months of the enjoy life forever book and it's shallow and barely gets into the actual Bible... Still no mention of Jesus yet besides me bringing him up every week because you can search the scriptures all you want, pulling verses out of context, and trying to proof text, but the scriptures are ALL about Jesus... Reaching Jehovah's witnesses is a ministry. Knowing the real Jesus is freedom. If you'd like to study the book of John or Romans or any book in the new testament, please reach out!
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
@@RealizeReaLies100 Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
@@RealizeReaLies100 JWs study the Bible intensively if you attend the midweek meeting we study 1-3 chapters of the Bible, we have BIBLE readings, and READ the Bible texts shown in the WT as well aside from the BIBLE READING and study JWs do PERSONALLY
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
WHom did Jesus give the bread and wine? It started with the Apostles and eventually extended to other disciples. What are they going to do? They will be JUDGES as mentioned in Luke 22, they were given the Kingdom and they will BE priests and kings. rEV 5 - and you made them to be a kingdom and priests to our God,q and they are to rule as kings over the earth.” They were given authority to JUDGE and become KINGS - rev 20:4 - And I saw thrones, and those who sat on them were given authority to JUDGE. Yes, I saw the souls* of those executed* for the witness they gave about Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had not worshipped the wild beast or its image and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand.h And they came to life and ruled as KINGS with the Christ for 1,000 years. Rev 20:6 - Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection;l over these the second deathm has no authority,n but they will be priestso of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years. THOSE WHO WILL RULE AS KINGs AND PRIESTS and they are part of the FIRST RESURRECTION, THEY ARE the firstfruits. rev 14:4 mentions that these firstfruits are "These are the ones who did not defile themselves with women; in fact, they are virgins.i These are the ones who keep following the Lamb no matter where he goes.j These were bought from among mankind as firstfruits to God and to the Lamb," HOW MANY ARE THEY? REV 14:3 MENTIONS "And they are singing what seems to be a new songe before the throne and before the four living creaturesf and the elders,g and no one was able to master that song except the 144,000,h who have been bought from the earth." 144K
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
YOU CANNOT DENY HISTORICAL FACT that your paganized Trinity was MAN-MADE and formulated after about 400 years - FROM BRITANNICA - The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, St. Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of St. Basil of Caesarea, St. Gregory of Nyssa, and St. Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since
@richbaker7187
@richbaker7187 3 ай бұрын
@Mr.DC3.191 Against my better judgment in dealing with trolls like this moron, DC, I'll ask him anyway. Do you realize most everybody knows this was a partial quote used by the WT in their Anti-trinity booklet? Have you read the whole entry?
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
You PAGANIZED JESUS, so you don't have the real Jesus. Babylonia "The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23). India "The Puranas, one of the Hindoo Bibles of more than 3,000 years ago, contain the following passage: 'O ye three Lords! know that I recognize only one God. Inform me, therefore, which of you is the true divinity, that I may address to him alone my adorations.' The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us. What to you appears such is only the semblance. The single being appears under three forms by the acts of creation, preservation, and destruction, but he is one.'
@RowanTasmanian
@RowanTasmanian 3 ай бұрын
DC3 you believe in Just one more God than Christianity does. So did the pagans. So do all polytheists. It must be very awkward when people ask you how many Gods you believe in and you have to say “well my friend,I believe in 2 Gods “ Hmmmm DC3, you have a very interesting belief system. 2 Gods is 1 more than us Christians.
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 3 ай бұрын
@@RowanTasmanian the only TRUE GOD is the Father acc to Jesus and you don't understand that, just like you don't understand that 1 is not 3, nor you know what DEFINITION and the word WHOEVER means, and the same thing that your WIFE does not know that you liKE three wives
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 3 ай бұрын
​@@Mr.DC3.1914 did you listen to any of this video? Any rebuttal of the actual scriptures?
@markshark1613
@markshark1613 3 ай бұрын
​@@RealizeReaLies100They don't listen, and many have admitted to this as they can't listen to or watch " Apostate material". The true marks of a cult
@Emmaus-info
@Emmaus-info 3 ай бұрын
Why just Ctrl + Alt the text from WT.? All these silly arguments are already explained and destroyed in a lot of videos including bible sources, in this channel or in Lot other Channels. Start to think by yourself, and also use other sources for your research....it gives a much bigger horizon
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 2 ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 Ай бұрын
I'd love to go thru these verses one by one and show how when they are read IN CONTEXT it proves that Jesus is THE Creator. Not the Father, He is the Son, the "image" of the invisible God. But not created. He is the Creator of ALL THINGS. Col 1:16... Nothing was made, that was made, without Jesus... John 1:3 and He created the universe HEB 1 the whole chapter. But you need to read all of those in context and refer to the Greek when your "holy scriptures" contradict the Bible... Also, maybe read Proverbs 8 from the beginning, and ask yourself if Jehovah existed without wisdom at any point, or if it sounds more poetic...
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
@@RealizeReaLies100 there is NO Bible text that called Jesus as CREATOR. Col 1:16 does not use the term CREATOR for Jesus. In fact, it uses DIA which means through and A CHANNEL OF AN ACT and EN which means INSTRUMENTALITY, and those are used for JESUS. So GOD used Jesus as A CHANNEL/INSTRUMENT in the act of creation. Prov 8, the Wisdom there is NOT the Literal Wisdom but the FIGURATIVE Wisdom which is Jesus Christ, the WISDOM OF GOD. 1 Cor 1:24. An IMAGE is NOT the original btw
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 Ай бұрын
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Colossians 1: 16For by Him all things were CREATED (ktizo, which means created) that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. How does a created being create all things? And how does everything consist through a created "Angel"? You really have to flip the scripture all around to not see what it says... Maybe if it was one word, (like "firstborn" that could mean something other than literally the first person born, like heir or preeminent) but it's multiple verses in multiple books exhaustively saying Jesus CREATED all things... How do you get around John 1:3? Nothing was made that has been made without Jesus... ?
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
@@RealizeReaLies100 Notice the TWO WORDS translated as By/Through in Col 1:16 - 1. En - a primary preposition denoting (fixed) position (in place, time or state), and (by implication) instrumentality (medially or constructively),.. Notice it says INSTRUMENTALITY 2. Dia - a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act Notice it says CHANNEL OF AN ACT So Colossians 1:16 simply mentions that Jesus is USED BY GOD AS A CHANNEL OF AN ACT, AN INSTRUMENT in the Creation. Compare that to GOD in 1 Cor 8:6 , notice for God the Father he uses the word EK - or ex ex a primary preposition denoting ORIGIN (the point whence action or motion proceeds), from, out (of place, time, or cause; literal or figurative; direct or remote):- Notice GOD the Father is the ORIGIN/FROM ,THE SOURCE FROM WHOM ALL THINGS are created. BIG DIFFERENCE. So the FATHER IS the ORIGIN of all things. For JEsus, it didn;t use the word Origin but "THrough" which in the Original Greek word also means "a primary preposition denoting the channel of an act". So God the Father is like the WRITER, he used his Son as a channel of a act to write (like a pen). So the only writer is the Father, the Son was used as a channel and NOT THE ORIGIN of creation. This is confirmed by Jesus in John 5:19 - " Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing.+" JESUS CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING , his FATHER always guide him. All things came into existence through him,e and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. - Jesus is first BORN/MADE (Heb 1:5, 1 JOhn 5:18) by GOD directly , only begotten by GOD, the Father , ALL things (which does not include of course Jesus and his Father and the holy spirit) came into existence THROUGH him (Jesus). the word through (DIA in Greek means - a primary preposition denoting the CHANNEL of an act; ) So Jesus was used as the CHANNEL in the creation. The source is the Father.
@RealizeReaLies100
@RealizeReaLies100 Ай бұрын
@Mr.DC3.1914 then could you please tell me how that doesn't contradict Isaiah 44:24? Really Isaiah 43 and 44 and a lot of other places, but mainly in some Psalms and Isaiah where it says Jehovah created all alone and by Himself? How is that not a contradiction of John 1, Colossians 1 and Hebrews 1?
@Mr.DC3.1914
@Mr.DC3.1914 Ай бұрын
Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5 Jesus in FACT mentioned the FATHER IS GREATER than I am. JOhn 14:28. BEFORE he WAS SENT, the Father is ALSO GREATER than Jesus. Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, nor is one who is sent greater than the one who sent him.q John 13:16 . Jesus was SENT BY GOD - and called as SERVANT OF GOD. Acts 4:27 AFTER his resurrection the FATHER IS STILL GREATER than Jesus - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
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