ExpressLRS on Tango 2 is way easier than you think

[@madhatterstunts]

Ive watched so much BARDWELL videos my brain has predictive text on his videos.

[@deadlazlo]

Expanding the tango 2 screen was pure genius.

[@josemarb]

I have been a couple of years with R9M with no issues, then I have changed to crossfire with the Tango 2. In a few months I have had 2 failsafes at 120m. So I've decided to change to ELRS and since then I am happy having the same range, with much better refresh rate and way cheeper receivers. And the best is that ELRS is open source.

[@terrysahaidak]

For anyone doing it - make sure to switch to 250hz in the Lua script. As you could see even in the video, on 500hz it reports only ~215 packets. Tango as it is today supports only rate up to 250hz. Also, it can only run 250mw.

[@seewell8168]

I did this about a month ago as part of switching my whoops over to ELRS SPI AIO boards. So happy I did! No more fail safes in the house.

[@JasonParham83]

You were getting fail-safes with crossfire?

[@jwdavidson]

Thanks for the walkthrough sir. Now all the Tango 2 is missing is EdgeTX. Hopefully in EdgeTX 2.7 this spring/summer...

[@TheVeganarchism]

Had to do a double take at 3:07 there when JB slipped his finger UNDER the LED screen 😂 Had me fooled right up to that moment!

[@Lighter02]

I have a Tango 2 and just picked up an ELRS module to take advantage of AIO whoop boards with built-in ELRS because I’m tired of Frsky failsafes. The cheaper component cost is also a benefit, with how pricey everything is going too.. Being able to fly 1-2s micros with the same peace of mind as my larger crossfire quads just makes sense to me.

[@baggszilla]

Wow when you did the PIP of the bigger screen on the Tango 2 I was like WTH that looks awesome, I would love that! Thank JB!

[@murphyking79]

Joshua Bardwell teaching me something again.. thanks

[@ericapelz260]

Educational as always!

[@jesselopezdrones4396]

Thank you. I just got going on my tango 2. I was wondering if I should switch. But now I know thank you sir. 🙏👊👊

[@NitronNitron]

Nice. Thank you, Joshua. Was planning to install the module bay and configure my happymodel elea module this weekend.

[@alainassaf]

nice intro ;) I wish we could use the ribbon cable to connect directly to a pcb module bypassing the need for bulky pins in the bay... it would result in a much more compact form factor.

[@xnoux1]

Yea I know people do this mod

[@Plankmeister]

Damn, son! You been workin' out! Lookin' good! 💪

[@carbonEYE007]

Thank you so much for this. You are in fact the man in fpv!

[@Happy_FPV]

I was actually wanting to try this. Thanks for making this video.

[@ryan39584]

If I didn't have CSRF I would probably get ExpressLRS, Still love my tango 2

[@Desmarestia.]

Aio and substantially cheaper and lighter rxs were the deciding factor for me. I love my small clean builds and crossfire just isn't the best option in any of those regards any more.

[@motomikey13]

Thanks for all the help like always!!!

[@airdevil21]

Awesome that I can use multiple module and recieved with the binding phrase! Didn't know that.

[@bender8783]

Thank you for every Video JB

[@RCRitterFPV]

hahah I must admit, I bought the mdm adaptor and it's around here somewhere... kinda been putting off doing the mod. was just hoping for a nice native 2.4 ELRS that felt as nice. just don't like the idea of dealing with modules. kinda ruins what is nice about the tango2

[@metalfpv]

I somehow feel this was a teacher corriging my sheet on "how to make an fpv how-to video" thank you

[@trajanfpv]

Did it a couple months ago with the Slim Pro. I use Crossfire on anything bigger than 2.5 inches and ELRS on everything smaller (save two Redpine whoops). It is a great combo and is still my favorite controller.

[@incorect8528]

crazy to watch each video sound completly different for these tangos the hype did build up indeed lol

[@AliBFPV]

Make sure you change to 250hz. You can see in the lua at top right that it’s showing 215hz. That’s because you have it set to 500hz and tango can’t do that. Change to 250 and then it will show 250hz in top right of lua

[@Anzyclos]

Did it myself in December. 😁👍

[@h3rtz]

More of a feeling than a proven fact but maybe still worth considering: in areas with high density of high powered mobile antennas (like the area where I live), the likelyhood of your rc link being taken out by one of those antennas on 915Hz is a lot higher than on 2.4mHz, while the range of both Crossfire vs 2.4mHz ELRS is way beyond what most quads can go anyways. I think that might be a reason for some to switch, at least for me.

[@akatopj22]

Exactly what I plan on doing

[@leonie9248]

4:55 The important difference between binding phrase and Wi-Fi password is that the Wi-Fi password is a secret while the binding phrase is explicitly public. It’s not a security feature, just a selector/matcher feature.

[@luisluis7677]

You make it look so easy. But it's hard as hell.lol.👍

[@AirKhanFPV]

I have the slim pro module from happymodel the new one with 2.0.1 and bf 4.3 rc2 sometimes my tango2 doesnt connect to the drone and i need to unplug the battery from the drone. the bf receiver tab shows me when this happens strange values on the channels and i am doing nothing values like 888 for throttle and than instantly 1390 something and dann 2000 and then 949...

[@FarnsleyFPV]

Always thought putting another control link on my Tango 2 was forbidden 😅 thanks for the tutorial JB!

[@chrissofpv3017]

Yep,why would you use a Tango2 if your Crossfired already..... =I,m "curious"about Express LRS ..and don,t want to buy another tx just to experiment...hence I,m going to use the Tango2. SURELY...Trappy will bring something out to compete with Express LRS...I,m sure he doesn,t want TBS closing down?

[@xymaryai8283]

i know you did it in editing, but i would buy the Tango 2 instantly if it had a touchscreen that big, even if it was still monochrome

[@whowechina7018]

I did a stealth install of ELRS module inside my tango 2 without hurting original CRSF features.

[@califpv]

I installed the module bay to use with tracer... CRSF for range & tracer for Freestyle

[@MCsCreations]

Awesome, Joshua! Thanks a lot! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@spacemonkey986]

Josh what are the difference between the BetaFPV vs HappyModel ELRS TX Modules, you said others prefer the HappyModel, can't find any comparison reviews or whether there is now an alternative?

[@hwg315]

Gonna drop a like just for the thumbnail

[@suatsekil]

thanks

[@eduardoperez-st5go]

When I plug in my happy model Slim pro 2 2.4 it does not suggest or identify a com port. It reads “manual serial device selection. Do you know what might be wrong?

[@leonie9248]

Exactly what I needed! If the RadioMaster Zorro turns out being bad, I might just get a Tango 2 pro and elrs it up.

[@ryanjones1071]

This is what I did. I couldn't wait for the zorro to be in-stock

[@ThisOrThat13]

Outsider working my way in. I was thinking this as well. The Zorro's sticks appear to be an issue for most reviews. Though I'm a fan of the frame.

[@neilfpv]

Awesome video! What if mine is for JR module base, what should I do and I still want a Tango 2 rc?

[@pksteffen]

Waiting on my Mambo being able to do 500hz. They can only do 250hz until the next version of Edge TX

[@360vroomers]

Does anyone have a link to a cover for the nano module for those times I've removed my ELRS module?

[@milanfpv]

Fits the BETAFPV ELRS Micro TX module to the tango 2

[@nm90fpv97]

Hey JB it isn’t the micro module. It will not boot up after flash. The target ist the one without the micro. Had the same problem

[@alwayshathbeen3340]

For a hot second I was thinking Joshua Bardwell had some mod on his Tango 2 making the screen like a 5” DOT Matrix display. Lol.

[@pofotiouzois]

Nice tutorial!

[@h2o-fpv623]

What a great video thank u

[@fpvnme4845]

always good

[@glennburnett6071]

Thanks!

[@Farang_Lifestyles]

Ok,,,, I dont understand why I would want to do this to my Tango 2.... its already CRSF. ........Is this to go 2.4 ?

[@vincgina]

2:28 omg i wish the display was that big lol

[@samflyer80]

underrated comment, Please tbs read this :D

[@Cre8ionz.]

7:26 min - the problem is that the switches are different (/ in a different position ?!) . You need to match up the inputs / mixer right to make it work in a similar way as the main radio.

[@patrickernst9187]

This almost drove me insane after I spent 3 days trying to figure out what I had done wrong to get my new mobula6 elrs to bind to the elrs module on my tango2. All I ended up having to do was lower the PID loop frequency to 2k and overclock the FC to 120mhz.. The ELRS link was fine but because you have to build and flash the elrs module firmware yourself I thought that had to be the issue.

[@user-mb8nb8dj8y]

Im slightly stupid but where are you finding the com port

[@Vaughnboilore]

so i have the 915 version so its different. you have to pull the case off and p[ush the button under the main button when its flashing and says pids failed tap it and it will finish correctly

[@laurynasagejevas1200]

the packet rate at the top seems to indicate that its only runing at 215hz instead of 500, i guess tbs is doing something to lock out elrs lol. Also tbs agent lua works with elrs so you dont even need to download anything:D

[@junglistfpv8553]

I am running 250hz and that's working solid, I had the exact same thing on my Tango on 500 hz. Need to wait for EdgeTX release for 500hz packet rate and gimbal polling, I believe. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure. Saw UAVTech commented something similar.

[@Cre8ionz.]

Trappy is gonna be mad about the Intro 😂 👍🏼

[@seb-depp]

Interesting video. Why did you exchange the screen of the controller in the video with a tracked other video, though? Or is that a zoom?

[@sebby_d_fpv]

Good video! that screen over was bizarre .... especialy if you point with your finger....

[@uavtech]

7:00 - yours was at 215hz packet rate vs. the 500hz selected. Check to see if increasing Baud rate to 400,000 fixes it.

[@kazuzaPT]

Won't help. Freedom tx is not capable of 500Hz...

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Normally that's in the Hardware screen but I don't see it on the Tango 2. Any advice?

[@kazuzaPT]

@@JoshuaBardwell don't bother. Set ELRS at 250Hz and wait for OpenTX / EdgeTX support for this unit

[@CapnBry]

Yup @kazuzaPT is right, freedom TX can do at most 250Hz, so it goes all loopy when you try to run 500Hz

[@Cre8ionz.]

@@JoshuaBardwell firmware related.. Had the same thing.. After I did an update from OTX to ETX or from an older ETX to an newer ETX VERSION (don't remember) - then I saw this option..

[@dronesandstuff]

There should be a mod to make the display larger on Tango 2!! like the zoomed in size in video! Like powerzoom for game boy :D

[@anthonysaint-preux5850]

I have a question… my R9M is ELRS flashed. Can I use that on the mambo instead of buying a happymodel module?

[@2bfpv882]

Tango 2 can only run at 250 hz

[@jrose152]

Thumbnail is too good.

[@AntonEvdakov]

were i can download lua scrit ?

[@abracadaver7687]

Why I would putt that if ther is nano crossfire ??????

[@dreswan1]

Read my mind JB!

[@camhoff5333]

Do you know of any place I can get a Tango 2 currently? It seems to have been back ordered since Jun 2021. Did TBS discontinue it?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's still being made just component shortages are a real hassle.

[@Cre8ionz.]

I've seen so many ppl in Germany 🇩🇪 sell their Tango 2.. Don't know why tho..

[@camhoff5333]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks

[@camhoff5333]

@@Cre8ionz. yeah I can’t find any here

[@laserdiy5026]

Hello Joshua ! This possible with Tango 1 ? To get elrs 868mhz ? This old model with fpv screen…

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes. Any 900 MHz elrs module can do both 868 and 915.

[@madladdan]

Whats the battery life like?

[@dronefilmsgermany]

How to install external module is Saône cutting soldering required?

[@RYVENANT]

You hitting the gym over there JB? Looking slim!

[@frankcastillo8869]

Who saw the video with ExpressLRS on the Flysky radio?

[@MeGuess_Adventures]

I’m confused on which comport to pick I’ve got three options. Com8 Microsoft, com7 Microsoft and com3 silicon labs

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Unplug the device. Whichever port disappears is the one you want.

[@MeGuess_Adventures]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thanks Mr. B!

[@JeromeDemers]

I almost thought there was a new tango II with a much bigger oled display 😅

[@LordWolfFPV]

The thumbnail to this video is both funny and scary....

[@ramshaashfaq6713]

Joshua you selected Betafpv 2400 TX micro, it isnt micro module!

[@ThisOrThat13]

As a newbie. I understood Crossfire = Apple and ExpressLRS = Android.

[@glytch5]

I assume this is basically the same process if I purchased a mambo?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Yes!

[@glytch5]

@@JoshuaBardwell I'm buying it! Going to use it with ELRS, but grabbing a tracer receiver to experiment with while i'm at it!

[@glytch5]

@@JoshuaBardwellSo I am on the mambo, I downloaded the ELRS lua and its showing up in freedom tx, but when I open it I get syntax error? Is that just because I don't have the module in the controller yet? I am waiting on the adapter since I only have the nano!

[@TheOuterDrive]

I noticed that the fpv guys round here want the most powerful RX that will have the longest range ....but they don't need it cause they never fly that far out. Its like the kid who has a super fast drifter car but he only drives slow as hell in the fast lane.

[@dreswan1]

Penetration!

[@Przemo-c]

Consistency/penetration ability to fly back with damaged antenna. Having an option ready is useful even if you don't use it all the time.

[@sligit]

Yep, trees and walls are definitely things.

[@TheOuterDrive]

@@Przemo-c sounds like my crossfire rig..

[@Przemo-c]

@@TheOuterDrive I use crossfire as well and even with chopped antenna I was able to get back and I'm thinking of ELRS for my smaller quads .

[@its_Savian]

i don't get it. why tho? you already have the best long-range link.

[@terpsquirter7107]

Why wouldn’t you want elrs over crossfire?! It has way better penetration even at 2.4ghz and better refresh rates?

[@Farang_Lifestyles]

yeah I didnt understand the purpose of doing this mod....

[@terpsquirter7107]

@@Farang_Lifestyles better refresh rates than tbs as well as penetration you can go way further in woods concrete buildings etc with elrs than you can with tbs tracer

[@deadbyteDrones]

4:31 Device Target should be the "non-Micro" as this module is the "Nano"

[@berrywang7170]

Yes, also that's why the elrs menu has a fan control entry even though this tx doesn't have one obviously.

[@napstersgear3696]

The only thing that Tango 2 misses is a big screen like that in your video. :) :)

[@fluoxethine]

TBS must lock out ELRS

[@aerialcombat]

What? Why?

[@barathrajdurairajan5161]

Why haven't you built any drone recently ?

[@cualeslarisa21]

anyone has the correct Lua for the happy model es24tx slim pro ? I thought I got the right one on the configurator and installed it on my tango and it could take like 5 minutes for the option menu on the controller to pop up, but if I look on the targets on the ears configurator none of the 2.4 htz its the slim pro version. Im kinda lost any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

[@williammaloney4196]

@cualeslarisa21 did you figure this out? I am having the same issue. Help would be greatly appreciated. :D

[@robaxelsson530]

DUDE… your thumbnail was so clickbait!! Safety goggles and a hammer!?!!? AND DUCT TAPE!!??made me think someone may get pregnant ..😂😂🤣🤣.. seriously, love your “out-trows!! No matter what u post.. I’m always learning something .. so let me say..”thank you”…

[@snaphover]

Yayyyyyy

[@2bfpv882]

My mambo was only running at 38 hz on firmware 1.31 i downgraded to 130 and itll run 250 Hz elrs just fine

[@MrXLR82]

why someone would exchange using crsf on tano on elrs2???

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Honestly I don't know but a bunch of people have asked.

[@timrodriguez1]

🤠👍

[@661FPV]

Hahaha (0/215) Trappy doing Frsky things? TBS strikes again! I remember about a year ago there was a bug in freedomTX that only allowed 50Hz communication to the module bay and it was making tracer modules run at 50hz. I wonder if it's the same limitation? It's a shame such a good radio is so limited by its firmware.

[@AliBFPV]

It will only run up to 250hz. It’s showing 0/215 because lua is set to 500hz and it can’t reach that.

[@slappomatthew]

Bardwell is really flipping out over elrs what’s so bad about crossfire?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Here are the things that ELRS does better than CRSF: ELRS is about 1/2 to 2/3 the price; ELRS runs in 2.4 GHz which has smaller antennas, less interference from other pilots, and can run at higher frequency (lower latency); ELRS can run up to 500 Hz. That's not to say that Crossfire has no advantages, but you asked what ELRS does better.

[@christopher0023]

What buttons do u use the hammer for??? Lol

[@DeathKingNighT]

Is tango 2 support 500hz?