Extended Small Diameter Threading Using a DIY Follow Rest.

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Joe Pie

Joe Pie

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@dougberrett8094
@dougberrett8094 3 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. I must say that when you take a busman’s holiday you don’t mess around.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I couldn't go anywhere either.
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you this Sunny Sunday Joe. Good on the brass dial. It just wouldn't look right without it. This threading was just perfected by Joe Pie, , , A TRUE MACHNIST. Almost 50 years as a machinist I have never even tried or considered a thread on this this small of a diameter. WELL DONE FELLA ! Looks like another win on teaching folks again. Thanks, eh teach !
@mrc1539
@mrc1539 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent ! One to be filed in the old memory bank . Thanks to the internet sometimes when I get stumped, I just go back through your old video’s and wa-la there it is ! Thank you !
@zumbazumba1
@zumbazumba1 3 жыл бұрын
BTW thank you for sacrificing that virgin brass rod to the machine gods for the benefit of human kind and knowledge ! 3:15 A cousin of mine has a lathe made in vienna,brand new only 118 years old -that lathe has right screw.It took me so long time to adjust to it ,i had to make 2 arrows with sharpie on a peace of paper so i can know which way to turn the dial and not to dig in the knife in a material. Then when you go and work on a "normal" lathe its a wierd feeling that everyting is in reverse now.
@craighill1606
@craighill1606 3 жыл бұрын
very nice follow rest. something the cnc world forgets about sometimes.
@paulskvorc7021
@paulskvorc7021 3 жыл бұрын
"Catastrophic failure" - Yup, had more than one of those. All of them due to 'operator error' as a function of ignorance and inexperience. These videos help minimize, (but not eliminate), the likelihood of future 'catastrophic' failures. Thank you.
@gjkozy
@gjkozy 3 жыл бұрын
Using phenolic was a win, it gave the thread a finish that larger diameter pieces obtain and it supported the piece flawlessly. I wonder if it will burnish steel just as well.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
I'll find out next week.
@bobtorrence3461
@bobtorrence3461 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you survived all the weather and that you are back to making the mini lathe!
@johndevries8759
@johndevries8759 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same Clausing lathe, always wondered what those two counterbored and threaded holes were for. Now I'll have to make that follow rest. Thanks for sharing.
@spikeevans1488
@spikeevans1488 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks much for such great videos. “If you choose not to find joy in the snow, you will have less joy in your life but still the same amount of snow.” Of course I'm from New England; in '78 blizzard it took me a day and 1/2 to get home from boston.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
I'm from NJ, so bad snow storms don't scare me. Difference is, I was always prepared for them. Next time it snows up there, don't touch your shovel, snow blower or drive the 4x4 and you'll feel like a Texan. And just cheer when the mayor says all the snow plow trucks will stay home cause the roads are bad.
@lroyson
@lroyson 3 жыл бұрын
Oh there will be dials... Ha ha I would not have expected less from you Joe. I really like this Micro lathe build.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
The guys at the company had obviously never been asked that question before. I'll have to modify a few things, but they will be present.
@davidsnyder2000
@davidsnyder2000 Жыл бұрын
Clever trick. Clean threads with no burs is a bonus 👍😊
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Always the goal.
@joemiller5110
@joemiller5110 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Joe for sharing your time, talents and knowledge.
@8inlinea
@8inlinea 3 жыл бұрын
First viewer? That's a true honour, Sir. Your videos are really inspiring, thank you for sharing! I've forwarded your method to square up a piece in the milling machine to a friend of mine who teaches machine shop practice in a technical school: he'll start teaching that method to his students too!
@jegergladformad86
@jegergladformad86 3 жыл бұрын
THat was a great video.
@TheTacktishion
@TheTacktishion 3 жыл бұрын
Nice threads....! That phenolic follower rest was a great idea, good material for that also.
@jklmnop8607
@jklmnop8607 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in the trade over 30 years and have never had a job to do that required a follower rest. Go figure. As much as we all hate dies, a 5-40 thread was always a die job for me. Your demo here was magic. Thanks
@jameslezak7882
@jameslezak7882 3 жыл бұрын
What a great idea! Been using following rests for years! Never once thought of using a sacrificial rest point! Now I do and I'm going to redo several marginally acceptable projects. Thanks Joe for turning on a light for me!
@robertlewis4666
@robertlewis4666 3 жыл бұрын
This is a godsend for me! No steady rest available for my mini lathe so I'm making this tomorrow. Thanks for posting Joe, I'm confident this will save me a lot of swearing and frustrtion.
@aw738
@aw738 3 жыл бұрын
We had the same weather here in West Virginia. Ice then snow and then ice on top like yours. I was without power for 12 days. Our temps were in the 20's. Now we have rain and scattered flooding.
@barryfields2964
@barryfields2964 3 жыл бұрын
I really like steady rests, I don’t think the get enough love in the machining world.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Both types can really make life easier.
@LoremIpsum1970
@LoremIpsum1970 3 жыл бұрын
I really liked Myforboy's rest with the bronze bushes for small screws from some years ago. Just cat skinning though...
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 The regular kind get used a lot more. I know I've probably used a regular type 100 times for every time I needed to use a follower. Probably more than 100 times. The only bad thing about steady rests is set up wrong the roller type can pull the work right out of the chuck. But that usually happens because some body is using a three jaw that runs out.
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 3 жыл бұрын
I like how smoothly the collar unloosened when you tested it :)
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 3 жыл бұрын
Great set up and implementation Joe, very useful material Phenolic, especially the Linen based type, brand name here in the UK is "Tufnol". Thanks for sharing and keep dry.
@suzanneandwilliamjackson6682
@suzanneandwilliamjackson6682 3 жыл бұрын
Joe you are awesome. If anyone wants to become something more than just an everyday machinist they need to watch your channel. Keep it up
@richardsims1805
@richardsims1805 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific solution for a problem production part. Thanks, Joe
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 3 жыл бұрын
Always thinking, a true machinist.
@JohnBare747
@JohnBare747 3 жыл бұрын
Well that trick was worth the price of admission! Thanks Joe.
@jdm2651
@jdm2651 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I have now cut my very first screw , non standard dia of 2.40mm and French lingnes pitch for an antique clock. It took a few tries and I have a long road ahead, machining is addictive and I can't stop.
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed 3 жыл бұрын
So, I have been trying to make a fixture to do EXACTLY this. My approach was / is more complex, and more importantly, doesn’t actually work. So I’ll be making one more like the one you have here. Again - thanks Joe. Great info and very much appreciated.
@mikebingham6682
@mikebingham6682 3 жыл бұрын
Hi joe, I would have never believed that little attachment out of phoenelic would have worked but that's perfect and easy to make also...hats off to you joe.
@rtkville
@rtkville 3 жыл бұрын
A follow rest is the one accessory I don't have but wish I had for my lathe so thank you for the "little push" you have given me to make or buy one. There have certainly been many times I wished I had one! Thank you for another great video.... and a little push!
@nigelleyland166
@nigelleyland166 3 жыл бұрын
It's the setups that are my main interest, the recent built model steam engine was especially interesting as Quin used different approches and now Aide is offering yet more variations, much of course depends on facilities available and I'd likely do at least some things otherwise. As ever Joe entertaining and educational content, it also comes over how much you are enjoying thse type of builds. many thanks.
@billchiasson2019
@billchiasson2019 3 жыл бұрын
You da man!! Thanks Joe! I always learn something from your videos! Greatly appreciated!.
@jnorris8649
@jnorris8649 3 жыл бұрын
Keep these gems coming! I finally got my Sherline 4410 CNC lathe operational & I used your razor blade trick not only for the Z axis when parting, but on the X axis for zeroing a boring bar to do an inside profile. Glad y’all thawed out. Hope you and yours are doing well. Thanks again!
@bradgotschall3259
@bradgotschall3259 3 жыл бұрын
Nice method and easy instant alignment with the endmill. Really looking forward to more lathe making. Glad you’re getting back to normal in TX😊
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj 3 жыл бұрын
What a brilliant solution, well done sir!
@jeffb6517
@jeffb6517 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joe. Always learn something when I visit.
@MurraydeLues
@MurraydeLues 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, the cold must have got to you. That is as rough as guts. No wait a minute. Absolute thing of beauty. Interesting to hear you say you don't like to thread the phenolic. It is used in yachts as threaded backplates for fittings that have very high loads.
@shrikedecil
@shrikedecil 3 жыл бұрын
A side-by-side "Bad v Good" closeup would be appreciated. I also expect a follow-rest on the nano-lathe :D
@ChrisB257
@ChrisB257 3 жыл бұрын
Like that follow rest - the phenolic is useful stuff. Great result. :) The initial demo proved a point for sure and I too was surprised the part didn't climb onto the insert!
@johnv341
@johnv341 3 жыл бұрын
I endorse all of the laudatory comments Joe. You are a force for good, in the machining world. From Oz.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
@jackbonfoey5821
@jackbonfoey5821 3 жыл бұрын
Good video Joe. I learned the threading away from the headstock method in another of your videos, that is a GREAT method! Thanks so much!
@Rheasound
@Rheasound 3 жыл бұрын
Another top notch episode! Always enjoyable, technics and explanations!!
@craigsuslosky3974
@craigsuslosky3974 3 жыл бұрын
Absolut brilliant solution to the dilemma! Thank you for sharing all your knowledge with us. I may never build a small engine, or small lathe, but all your tricks and tips on set ups can be applied to so many other parts. Thanks again!!
@johnferguson2728
@johnferguson2728 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe. I very much appreciate the time spent describing the tools you use in your videos. That phenolic follow rest is also a fantastic idea. That might have been useful when making the tiny oil cups for the steam engine.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Those went pretty smooth, the valve rod had a similar setup using a wood polishing stick and a lot of clamps. This allows for a gage test.
@brzibung
@brzibung 3 жыл бұрын
Joe: a miniature thing of beauty. I suspect that the attachment would work for diameters of one quarter or three-eighths as well.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
The arm is 1" wide, to allow for bigger stock.
@darfjono
@darfjono 3 жыл бұрын
love it when a plan comes together
@ellieprice3396
@ellieprice3396 3 жыл бұрын
Love that phenolic follower rest. The polishing effect is a bonus I didn't expect. Now I have to see if I can make one for my Jet 12x 36.
@georgecharalambous1212
@georgecharalambous1212 3 жыл бұрын
Joe your phenolic attachment is genius, I love it and will adopt it in my future projects. Fantastic and thanks so much for sharing all this wealth of information!
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 3 жыл бұрын
Phenolic and hard wood make good supports for machine work. With a dab of grease they make servicable bearings for polished shafts running at moderate speeds. Just the thing for crank and lever assemblies with moderate loads and intermittent use, e.g. a lever assembly to raise and lower a motor to change belt speeds. Cheers from NC/USA
@robertwalker7457
@robertwalker7457 3 жыл бұрын
Very good, thanks for keeping this project rolling along.
@orangetruckman
@orangetruckman 3 жыл бұрын
Your skills clearly show with this mini engine lathe build! My eyes hurt just watching you make these small parts!
@ophirb25
@ophirb25 3 жыл бұрын
The Magiver of the machining world. Great idea, great execution. Thanks for sharing.
@joecnc3341
@joecnc3341 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Joe Pie - for another great video. The results from constructing your own follower rest are outstanding. This model Lathe is another family heirloom in the making.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've really enjoyed this project.
@hectorplascencia2271
@hectorplascencia2271 3 жыл бұрын
Joe, you surprised me. This is a great technique. I use to run it in increments of .0005 to avoid deflection to a minimum, and the part was not even that long.
@wantlessobject
@wantlessobject 3 жыл бұрын
I've made a lot of Acme threaded shafts. Many different lengths/diameters. Way too much fun with the follower! But, I've never seen one that small. Good job! I like it!
@razvanbutiac7684
@razvanbutiac7684 3 жыл бұрын
Finally Joe... waiting with such excitement other video on this project... thank you.
@robertlark7751
@robertlark7751 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely outstanding as usual. Love seeing your work. Thank you for your contributions to the machining community.
@grayskwerl4973
@grayskwerl4973 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely done - indeed ! Especially where you can now make multiple nose pieces for diameters as needed. ( Glad you made it though the ice storm. )
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@rickhand8228
@rickhand8228 3 жыл бұрын
You just proved that small parts can be made on a large lathe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@kevinh.9068
@kevinh.9068 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely am going to make that follower. Great video, and can't wait to see those adjustable dials you are going to attempt. I thought it might be to hard to make on mine.but did think of making them just for show( not actually working) . I'm looking forward to the outcome.
@josha9620
@josha9620 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that is an absolute game changer for a small job shop!! Love it!!
@matthewhelton1725
@matthewhelton1725 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and tutorial. Order of operations, and logical setups save time and reduce the opportunity for errors.
@ghl3488
@ghl3488 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, thanks for another masterclass, i was thinking how to support it but you were already doing it! Regards from Wales. 4.45 am again Joe. Damn, lucky I got a fairly late start today
@erikisberg3886
@erikisberg3886 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of milling the support in place. The phenolic linnen composite seems like an ideal material for a sacrificial follow rest. It does not melt and it is actually a pretty good bearing material with a little thin oil absorbed in it. I am somewhat surprised that it seemed abrasive.
@Yogi_Bear69
@Yogi_Bear69 3 жыл бұрын
Think of it this way. If he needs another follow rest like that he's almost definitely going to be turning something a little bigger. He could use the same rest and just put a bigger hole in it. Love videos like this.
@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 Жыл бұрын
I bought a lot of miscellaneous lathe tooling that had this Kennametal NSR 123B in it. It took some research to find the inserts and there is a lot for this tool. But it quickly became my number one first choice tool to reach for for many different operations. The tool works amazingly well for threading, grooving, and even forming and turning in tight places. The inserts are not cheap, but they last forever with lube and coolant. I have a few that has worn the coating off but is still working great. Can’t go wrong with Kennametal !
@joepie221
@joepie221 Жыл бұрын
Well worth the price.
@Caughtitoutdoors
@Caughtitoutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing demo! I will add this to my tool box.
@stuartsurkitt2585
@stuartsurkitt2585 3 жыл бұрын
i for one will be hangin in there. great work as usual Joe. keep em coming. stay safe.
@bh.boilers
@bh.boilers 3 жыл бұрын
Great lesson again, thanks for a look at the snow and a call 0out for your lines men.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
That was a truly rare storm.
@jackbonanno5550
@jackbonanno5550 3 жыл бұрын
Very sneaky Joe, actually genious, I had already envisioned what I was going to Fab but I never considered phenolic, worked great. You never cease to amaze me.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The material performed very well and was as rigid as it needed to be.
@jackbonanno5550
@jackbonanno5550 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 I thought about aluminum for a base and a think piece of Teflon but you solved it with phenolic. Thanks for the tip on the half nut, saw that late last night, ran right down to the shop and tried it, works like a champ. Thank you very much.
@TrojanHorse1959
@TrojanHorse1959 3 жыл бұрын
"If you're gonna do it, do it right!" Amen, brother!
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely bloody brilliant Joe. It's well worth the time it takes and if you have some half inch thick phenolic laying around of course to make it. You could do the up stand in ally and just use the phenolic to make the support arm. I am going to make one as I'm planning to remake my cross slide leadscrew and nut in the near future. Just yesterday and today I have been making the leadscrew for my compound as mine is bent by the handle as it has obviously been dropped when being removed from the table ( mine is a lathe/mill combo) it has been a success so far, I was pleased as punch when I cut the 1/2" X 10 tpi Acme yesterday with no disasters lol looking forward to more of your lathe build, it has been a complete education for all of your subscribers/ followers like myself. Keep em coming Joe!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and subscribe. I appreciate it.
@wags9777
@wags9777 3 жыл бұрын
So excited for this whole series. Thank you.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Expertly done as usual. I really like that follow rest. At first I was wondering what the heck you were up to with that arrow point.
@HybridiHippo
@HybridiHippo 3 жыл бұрын
Open and clever mind is Machinist blessing.
@Cooliemasteroz
@Cooliemasteroz 3 жыл бұрын
Not just a good idea but also well implemented.
@dizzolve
@dizzolve 4 ай бұрын
Im going to make one of these. I bought the phenolic. Time to have some fun
@joepie221
@joepie221 4 ай бұрын
Good luck. Its a great help.
@markkoons7488
@markkoons7488 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank you. At last, a worthy project for some 10mm phenolic sheet I've been hoarding.
@michaellitzkow8123
@michaellitzkow8123 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice setup. Your part looks great. Thank you for sharing your thought process on how to make this part.
@charlesbrewer6552
@charlesbrewer6552 3 жыл бұрын
I love these tricks.
@TerryPullen
@TerryPullen 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that barrel slid on there smooth as silk. Nice.
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 3 жыл бұрын
Another J.P Brilliant idea. Love your channel - really superb work.
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@petestephens
@petestephens 3 жыл бұрын
Great one Joe. Just solved a problem I had experienced and not resolved very well.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 3 жыл бұрын
Curious...why wouldn’t the stock follow rest work, tips too large? and require modification? Enjoyed the video and the various lessons...tks
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
My tips are 3/8" in diameter. To set it up like the manufacturer intended, 3/8 will be the smallest size you can do. I suppose you could offset or modify the tips, but then you'd have the mass of the aluminum frame to deal with. For a collet, I wanted to be right up against the nose piece of the machine.
@PBI327
@PBI327 2 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221 If you wanted to use the factory "Follow Rest" to support a long thin piece (bigger than the one in this demo) cutting RH threads with the inverted tool wouldn't you want to modify the factory device somehow to provide some support from underneath ? ... Or have you already done this in another video that i somehow missed ? Thanks for all the tips
@chrisbartolo4308
@chrisbartolo4308 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Joe! One of my lathes came without a follow rest, and they are incredibly hard to find, so I'm getting ready to make one. This gives me a few ideas....thanks!
@joepie221
@joepie221 2 жыл бұрын
Do it.
@tomsmith3045
@tomsmith3045 3 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. I'd expect the phenolic to burn up. Love these tips!
@joell439
@joell439 3 жыл бұрын
🎉🎉😎🎉🎉....... it’s all about the preparation and planning
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - You make it look easy. Thanks for sharing a clever idea.
@johnm840
@johnm840 3 жыл бұрын
Clever, Still impressing me. Thanks for showing.
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 3 жыл бұрын
My ignorance and your teaching ability know no bounds: I was using a follow rest on my lathe and thought it to be useless because after you set it up on the cross slide and made your first pass, there would be a gap between the follow rest and the part, making me have to re-set up the follow rest :D Now I know after you make the cut with the compound, walk the cross slide towards you by the same amount and you'll be set up for the next cut. Doh and thanks!
@joepie221
@joepie221 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing can move a follow rest towards you, unless its attached to the cross slide.
@firearmsstudent
@firearmsstudent 3 жыл бұрын
@@joepie221Another doh moment... Never mind then, I'll just have to make something on the cross slide :) For those long threads, it might be a good idea to make a die holder for the QCTP and then set your carriage to the thread pitch, that way you can thread the whole length of the bed.
@jasen963
@jasen963 3 жыл бұрын
Always learning new things. Thank you Joe love your work 👍🏻
@lewisl5985
@lewisl5985 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many machinists get home from work and watch Joe machine things
@fedderback1
@fedderback1 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and educational as usual. Thanks Joe
@christurley391
@christurley391 3 жыл бұрын
That went well. Thanks for the video Joe.
@tianxunliu7479
@tianxunliu7479 Жыл бұрын
Another good idea to memorize, thank you.
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe, Nice work today... the follow rest worked very well indeed... Take care. Paul,,
@SlowEarl1
@SlowEarl1 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice work!
@richardrzucidlo8438
@richardrzucidlo8438 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome work you are doing 👏 👍 😀
@longcaster
@longcaster 3 жыл бұрын
Good thinking.
@paulcarre4719
@paulcarre4719 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Joe but why not just make a Phenolic piece to fit the steady follower that you already had ? Phenolic here is very expensive - would be cheaper in alloy tooling plate.
@uspatriot4261
@uspatriot4261 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding !
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