Dune - Origins - Extra Sci Fi - Part 1

[@extrahistory]

If you're curious, check out our earlier episode on John W. Campbell here, a notable magazine editor in the history of science fiction: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaXTp5doi9uoobM

[@MiloSukhoi]

Extra Credits ok

[@jukeboxjuke]

Notifications gang

[@pltkaiser9258]

BruhItz JustinMcNair Your a day late....

[@oddish2253]

FATHER THE SLEEPER HAS AWAKENED!

[@alecity4877]

3:05 you know "arroyo" is simply "creek" in spanish?

[@LetsTakeWalk]

Who would have thought the author of Dune got inspired by dunes.

[@franzsanders9573]

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[@codename495]

Dunes lead to Dune?! Gasp!!

[@codename495]

death wish So did dune, fruit trees in the southern caves. The fremen grew their food.

[@adele8955]

Oh my Dune i never thought of that.

[@alexeifrederickflores4021]

In Oregon, of all places

[@kurumachikuroe442]

"He who controls the spice, controls the universe/ world" -16th century Spain and Portugal

[@NuncEstBibendumX]

Laughs in Dutch

[@Graham226]

Laltluangliana Sailop Dutch? *Laughs in Britain*

[@Abhishek-sr2pu]

@@Graham226 British got rich by cash crops and taxes from india not by selling spices.

[@nopoK2]

Most spices comes from indonesia, of which colonialised by dutch

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

"He who commands the sea, has command of everything" -Themistocles, Admiral.

[@PavarottiAardvark]

Also Herbert was in the US Navy during WW2, so I can imagine him getting really bored of water....

[@coconutt6140]

PavarottiAardvark can relate.

[@JohnWilson-mk2jp]

Seemingly not that bored, considering the Pandora Sequence series.

[@KelsomaticPDX]

How, as an Oregonian, did I not know that Frank Herbert found his inspiration on our coastline! And that he's from Tacoma!? Love the books even more now.

[@BLasherman]

ditto, live a hour from Florence, seen the dunes many time, never put that together.

[@themediocremaster2388]

Right!? Fellow Oregonian here as well (I even live on the Coast haha), and it makes me love the books even more now

[@gotsane]

Born and raised in Coos Bay and I had no idea either. I miss those dunes :(

[@bbnl4276]

Jesse Harlan I grew up in north bend the dunes are so nice to hike through, it’s cool to see other people from there

[@matthewjoy475]

Herbert and LeGuin are two of my favorite authors and they were both Oregonians. There's something in the water up there I'm sure.

[@DaRealRessonance]

The spice must flow bois

[@merrittanimation7721]

HE WHO CONTROLS THE SPICE CONTROLS THE UNIVERSE!

[@monsieurouxx]

All I'm asking for is a small suitcase of Spice.

[@Qardo]

Well, Old Spice do?

[@HippyEyes]

Yeah bois, got our melange appies before we go ferda on some wierding way leg day. Gotta get in that pracky if you're going to roll with muad'dib bois: ferda.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

He who can destroy a Pumpkin Spice Chai, controls a Pumpkin Spice Chai

[@lukesimecek9172]

“Arrakis is not my destination.” She said. “Arrakis is the destination of everyone” he replied.

[@jamesrobillardjr]

Walk without rhythm and you won't attract the worms.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Don't wear a Holtzman shield either. It'll create the same problem.

[@franzfanz]

Activate Christopher Walken dance mode.

[@ahandsomefridge]

Do a barrel roll?

[@drillerdev4624]

Listen to the sound of my voice

[@TGNXAR]

So...get drunk?

[@ztcgamer9652]

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain

[@World_Theory]

Dune was actually the first really big Sci-Fi classic that I read. It was back in middle school. I was browsing the library, and noticed a book that shared a name with a Windows DOS game that I had played when I was really young. And what's funny, is that Dune was also the first book where I encountered the concept of dividing a physical book into, uh, ‘sub-books’. Yeah. I was really confused. Book > Books > Chapters > Pages, Paragraphs, and words. Super weird. So I laughed while watching this episode, because it jogged my memory of that confusion, as I learned the cause for the books within books in this case.

[@plucas1]

Sterling Lanier: A true unsung hero of scifi fandom!

[@goldman77700]

Indeed what a humble dude.

[@ShadowWingTronix]

I wonder if the publisher feels bad about firing him given the novel's place in literature today?

[@thewrustywrench21]

My favorite part of the whole book(s) is when a chief of the fremen spat on Duke Leto’s conference table. At first it is taken as an insult, but after Duncan Idaho is able to speak. He spits on the table as well, and explains to the duke that it was a sign of respect. Since moisture is so precious, even spitting is something you’d rather not do, and so among the fremen, to present some of your body’s moisture to someone else is a sign of allegiance and respect. Frank Herbert was perhaps the greatest world builder of all time, possibly outclassing even Tolkien.

[@louishermann7676]

Dude, everything about the Fremen culture felt so realistic and nuanced. Also, when Paul cries for the man he just killed, and the Fremen are shocked. "He gives water to the dead?"

[@lombardo141]

Damn maybe I should have read the book before I watched the new movie.

[@moonkxssxd]

@@lombardo141 This scene was in the movie too tho

[@marcoswillianl]

Hahahaha not even close to Tolkien, shut up.

[@rosescentedembrace]

im a long time fan of the books and an aspiring writer myself. getting to hear this back story literally brought tears to my eyes. I've read nearly everything he's ever written and to know how hard and long he had to struggle to be published gives me alot of hope. Thank you for this series and im looking forward to the other episodes.

[@zim57]

Same. Hearing that freaking DUNE was rejected constantly really drives the point home.

[@IffyJottere]

"Continue your training, and keep trusting Yueh implicitly." lol

[@merrittanimation7721]

(laughs awkwardly)

[@LocalHeretic-ck1kd]

@@omega4446 agreed

[@IffyJottere]

@@omega4446 "Think you of the fact that a deaf person cannot hear. Then, what deafness may we not all possess? What senses do we lack that we cannot see and cannot hear another world all around us?"

[@freemanaccount5146]

Do you think that he does not know what he has won?

[@acidicali7776]

I love Yueh,,,

[@extrahistory]

For folks in the comments saying that they have to read Dune, we got some great news. Over on our twitch channel, we're hosting Book Club every Tuesday. We're in the middle of Dune right now and we have a great mix of people who have read it before, and folks who have never touched it! If you want to read along and discuss the importance of spice, plans, and puns, come join in on Tuesday nights at 5:15pm PST at twitch.tv/ExtraCredits - A

[@wafflesthewookiee4716]

Fun Fact: Frank Herbert once denied Iron Maiden from using “Dune” as a song title.

[@lisaenglert3202]

Waffles The Wookie that would have been pretty damn cool

[@Hvllow99]

Interesting

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

That can't be right. Copyright laws explicitely state you can't copyright a title.

[@SonofSethoitae]

@@lisaenglert3202 If you want to hear it, it's called "To Tame A Land"

[@raultrincado7110]

To tame a land from Piece of Mind i presume?

[@Snowy123]

Dune is my ALL TIME favorite Dune book. Being called as one of the best scifi novels is an understatement, it is THE BEST novel. Frank Herbert is a genius, he has a unique way of writing profound paradoxical concepts in clear and simple ways. For example “My father once told me that respect for truth comes close to being the basis for all morality. 'Something cannot emerge from nothing,' he said. This is profound thinking if you understand how unstable 'the truth' can be.”. It makes you consider and think about what is right and what is wrong, that there is no constant virtue and morality is a concept bounded by time and culture. What is taboo now could be virtuous in another age and culture and vise versa. If you're interested in Dune but you're busy with work and life consider getting the audiobook, you can listen to it while commuting back and forth from work.

[@matthewpuzzo8997]

"He who controls the spice controls the universe!" What? Someone was going to say it sooner or later.

[@alessiobellotti3912]

Dune: *exists* 40k: IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE

[@Robert-hz9bj]

I'm so glad you guys are doing this. I received "Dune" as a gift when I was 9 years old, and while I had enjoyed reading before, it was the first book I ever really, truly loved. It ended up being the main reason I became such an avid reader and consumer of science fiction.

[@skyebedard2148]

Can we just appreciate the prequel meme in this? Thanks for the laugh Extra Credits.

[@weldonwin]

You mean the Golden Path at 2:27 ?

[@KuK137]

Eh, it was one part of video that sucked. Not only it had ZERO connection with what was being said, it was repeated twice as non-sequitur filler for some reason. I like SW, but it nearly made me hit dislike button.

[@nickkurzy2246]

"I hate sand. It's coarse and rough, and it gets everywhere." Worst pick-up line ever

[@robertgronewold3326]

@@KuK137 Dune was a major inspiration for George Lucas. It was one of the reasons there is the planet Tatooine.

[@UhHellandDoomIguess]

“And that day dawned when Arrakis lay at the hub of the universe with the wheel poised to spin.” -Princess Irulan

[@florianpierredumont4775]

Personnal fun fact : in my town, in France, near the Atlantic, we have a nice big beach. In the 90's when I was a kid, we went to the beach, and it was flat, from the parcking lot to the sea. They built a nice fence for the dune to form and the sand to accumulate. 20 years later, I took a look to the beach, and what we have now is a bunch of dunes, hills and small pockets of grass and bushes. This beach is our little part of Arrakis. ^^

[@SmyeGuy]

God created Arrakis to train the faithful.

[@jonwa72]

You mean the southern Oregon Coast. Lol

[@gctypo2838]

2:39 TIL the "I don't like sand" line can be phrased as a haiku.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

"what could go wrong?" When the face of the Traitor is finally revealed The fate of the Atreides will already be sealed... LOL

[@MichaelBirks]

Oh, yeah. That.

[@Law030811]

Fear is the mind-killer.

[@merrittanimation7721]

Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.

[@VallornDeathblade]

I will face my fear

[@SJPace1776]

And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.

[@Games-mw1wd]

And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.

[@B0uff0s]

@@Gigas0101 i actually do the same...

[@sonokawaray]

Although I couldn't get into Dune while I was reading it, I still have a lot of respect for its influence. Heck, I love Warframe, and the lore in that game is heavily inspired by the kind of world Frank Herbert wrote.

[@ihaveagun22]

This is really good timing because I started reading Dune last week.

[@DavidChipman]

Maye you want to stay away, then, lest there be unmarked spoilers?

[@giuseppegrimaudo4815]

Me too! XD

[@Tia-Marie]

Dune, Arrakis, Desert Planet.

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Source of the Geriatrics Spice Melange

[@mainelbarto]

dude stumbled onto this channel and I've watch most of the history stuff and absolutely loved every episode now you do a video about my favorite book of all time! All of you are doing amazing work cant wait to see more

[@ztcgamer9652]

one of the truly Great Space Operas been waiting for this for a long time😎

[@accordingtosophia]

I legit read that as "Great Spice Operas" Not wrong

[@ztcgamer9652]

@@accordingtosophia Ha

[@cloudbloom]

I love dune so much. Read it 16 times and I still get new meaning from it every time

[@Thesiouxempirepodcast]

What do you mean we don’t know if they ever got to meet!?!? How could they not? You’re killing me Extra. Love these videos! Thank you!

[@Maude-ified]

The Saga of Dune is far from over.

[@theymkmewhtiam]

Dune is amazing, period.

[@cieslik7564]

book , movies and card game :)

[@mme.veronica735]

I tried reading it but it starts horribly for me. I need a character to be invested in and if the super natural is involved at least a basic explanation soon before or after it's involved. I didn't get either trying to read the first Dune book, 10 pages in and it just threw so much meaningless crap names at me that held no meaning while barely giving me anything. I hated it and stopped soon after.

[@lmilne2635]

@@mme.veronica735 Agreed. I managed to read the whole thing but by the end of it I still didn't understand what the Bene Gesserit were doing and why.

[@bruhgames4175]

Zonofv 1 yeah same

[@bruhgames4175]

halfrocanadian v why?

[@coffeecaveman123]

As one of my favorite books of all time, Im extremely excited for your series on Dune!!

[@MylaMinoki]

As someone who lives on the Oregon Coast, I can attest to the haunting beauty of the dunes.

[@brockmckelvey7327]

I have waited for this episode since this series started!

[@Amanning15007]

This is the best Sci fi book period. So many gems from this story, the spice must flow and of course the litany gains fear

[@frankincensemerchant1284]

The way frank looked at the Dunes, reminds me of how George would get inspiration for ASOIF by standing on Hadrian's Wall.

[@Psychol-Snooper]

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion."

[@BuddyWhite616]

Dune is an amazing piece of work that was extremely underrated at its birth

[@JamesSavik]

The spice, and the episodes, must flow! Well done, one of my favorite channels!

[@jonascastejon5888]

YES! WE CAN'T WAIT FOR VILLENEUVE'S "DUNE"!

[@salsamancer]

Dune is so amazing. It blew my mind 40 years after it's time, and will probably continue to do so for others in decades to come

[@SuperHipsterGamer]

This is it. I've waited and waited. And it is finally here! Getting notifications DO pay off! PS: Jesus are you guys a bunch of teasers, hinting at Dune multiple times in previous episodes.

[@oddish2253]

Long Live The Fighters of Muad'dib

[@HippyEyes]

Ah, I needed this! Thanks to the EC crew and Matt is really finding his stride as narrator. As a longtime Dune and FH fan this hit the spot on a frigid February morning. Keep up the good work!

[@egoborder3203]

I love this series so much! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about it

[@roderickvannoorloos1967]

"Yueh, Yueh, Yueh! A million deaths for Yueh!"

[@TheBoltcranck]

So glad this video was made. I read the novels back when i was 16 yrs old in 1996. I was fscinated by the universe Frank H. created.

[@WonderSealYT]

My favorite part of Dune is when Paul finally reunites with Gurney and institutes the new changes in Fremen society

[@VallornDeathblade]

I heard Dune and came as fast as I could.

[@MichaelBirks]

TMI, Dude

[@dr.whippersnapper5482]

Go to behind the dune for that

[@florbengorben7651]

I didn't even have to try I heard dune and immediately came

[@mariusdire]

I'm sure Slaanesh was pleased.

[@TheCreepypro]

nice to hear about this cause despite being a huge science fiction fan I know very little of Dune and have never read it I think it is finally time for that to change

[@IDKman555]

Goodness, I love Dune. I know many people don't like the movie's but I love them and because of them I got into the book series at a young age. Who can forget the "Litany against fear".

[@falabetharther]

I need more of this! This is your best cycle so far, covering my beloved books (and im sure very impprtant books for lots of people). And you are doing it in great way!

[@briangarrow448]

Muab Dib. Fear is the mind killer. One is my favorite character. The other is my mantra during stressful moments. Thank you, Frank Herbert.

[@fenzz5511]

I'm glad you post. Your videos are well made, and filled to the brim with knowledge. Thank you for this service, I hope to be donating shortly. *MUAH*

[@doom7ish]

"He who controls the spice! Controls the Universe!" Also what went wrong?

[@xxxholic90]

The same thing it always does. Greed I mean prequels Or god emperor

[@dead-ishchannel6212]

2:30 Perfect. Thank you Extra Credits.

[@Xoniksken]

Favorite book of all time.

[@oddish2253]

I spit on your comment fremen style :)

[@psyko2666]

Same.

[@LocalHeretic-ck1kd]

agreed

[@Andres9562]

FINALLY!!! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU STARTED THIS SERIES!!!

[@linkeffect82]

This is a fascinating introduction to the origin of the Dune series! I am fully engaged and happy to come back to this channel as more videos are released!

[@cloudbloom]

Been looking forward to these dune videos

[@conortrotter5755]

Been watching this channel for a really long time, since you first released the Punic Wars series, and when I saw you'd be doing sci-fi, this was the one thing I really hoped you'd eventually cover. Cheers, lads n lasses, and all hail to mighty Muad'Dib!

[@MWepex]

WWSD... What Would Stilgar Do

[@advisorv]

Some sort of lightweight book series?

[@monsieurouxx]

Dodge rivalry duels with his fellow tribesmen?

[@raphaelpujalte3001]

dune got the hugo award but it tied with "this immortal" by roger zelazny and didn't lose to "here gather the stars" by clifford d simak.

[@shadda]

There are no words for how much I absolutely adore Dune (and its sequels)

[@pyrosianheir]

THE SPICE MUST FLOW

[@anthonybird546]

Sterling Lanier also wrote Hiero's Journey which was an influence on both D&D and Gamma World with a passage that basically describes leveling up before, you know...*it existed*.

[@Drecon84]

The core message here is that if your work is good enough, it will get there, even if the experts don't agree.

[@SarahAndreaRoycesChannel]

More like build an audience. Herbert obviously never stopped marketing and reached the right influencers after tirelessly working on it. Seth Godin would be proud.

[@akrybion]

You did it! May Shai'Hulud bless your water!

[@jakethewoz]

Absolutely fantastic content. I can't believe they're doing Dune! I love Extra Credits so much.

[@TheDarkfire9251]

It's so great to learn more about this classic series! Can't wait for more

[@DistantEarlyWarning]

One of the greatest narratives of the 20th Century.

[@generalSarbina]

I've been waiting a very long time for this!

[@MrAwsomenoob]

i have waited so long for this...

[@saltyfrenchfry8806]

Ok, this is epic

[@codefx5035]

Bruh were are my dune 2000 players I played when was very young but I loved it

[@LocalHeretic-ck1kd]

I played it even before I knew about the book Dune. I was young, didnt understand much but I had great time playing it. Good old Westwood game. Fun fact: First Dune RTS game actually competed with the first Warcraft game in popularity and playability. Dune has its place in the gaming history.

[@chronyx685]

yeaaa mass tanks lez go

[@codefx5035]

@@LocalHeretic-ck1kd same

[@ahandsomefridge]

Oh yeah, Dune 2000 is actually pretty good. Not as good as Dune 2, but it had some fun missions.

[@jjsmith7707]

Having read dune, I'm glad you all made this.

[@ChupeTTe]

What an amazing video So many great insights.

[@SaltyTucker]

0:52 animator pulled a real classic Disney with that bath fixture

[@B0uff0s]

My favorite book series along with Pat Rothfuss Kingkiller Chronicles

[@PandiiMan]

3:45 Weren't there? I seem to remember just about 3 time jumps in the first book 4:21 Now that is some good advice. Probably the most compelling character in the series. Without spoiling anything: I think he took a wrong turn with her in the third book, but I also can't say what a correct turn for her would be. Some characters are just too interesting to actually develop and follow-up on, so they either get killed off or turned into utility-characters (to serve as info dumpers, exposition executioners, kidnapping victims or as example cases of character development as a warning to how high the stakes are in the context of the world). ... That's as far as I can go "spoiler-free" 5:35 I refuse to waste water for this book... I... this... I'm... I just got some spice in my eye, that's all! 6:32 fuck...

[@philhunnicutt9019]

Today my wife got me a nice little hunk of metal that has an inscription: "Behind, as a wild ass in the desert, go I forth to my work." -Gurney Halleck It's about right.

[@Parker8752]

I've only ever read the first Dune book, but I'm glad I did. It was really, really good.

[@ashton5493]

You should read the other five, they are good too. 😊

[@Acularius]

The Analog was my introduction to sci-fi through my father's subscription when I was younger. Then his old collection of the Foundation series and Dune.

[@EuropeanQoheleth]

5:27 The dude on the left looks like Jack Layton.

[@MYSOULOFDOOM]

Seeing this about my fav book ever ❤️😍❤️

[@ImperatorIke573]

I think I speak for almost everyone when I say that we are super excited for this

[@killermodrul]

I am so happy that you uploaded these great additions to extra sci-fi. Diving deeper into the themes of cyberpunk was mentioned a loong time ago, is there hope that we will get to see episodes about neuromancer or snow crash? I would also love to see the great dystopian/utopian novels and their ideas discussed. Anyways thanks a lot for the great content!!

[@JackMyersPhotography]

I wasn’t aware that “Dune World” lost (or even was nominated.) The novel “Dune” tied for a Hugo win in 66. Having the same story nominated twice has to be rare.

[@jjp1220]

Love this thank you it fills in the gaps from the movie and part of the books 📚

[@kiramiller4982]

Really looking forward to this series! Would love to see you do a series on the Discworld by Sir Terry Pratchett

[@CodyosVladimiros]

I wonder what the Haiku was.

[@the3nder1]

Was wondering the same.

[@minhkhangtran6948]

The meaning, or what is Haiku? If it’s the later, Google it, if it’s the former, I guess it’s a man lament over the place he live, and how omnipresently oppressive, harsh, and rough it’s around him, setting the tone for the entire story It’s the entire world, and it hate him, just as much as he hate it.

[@DanSeadam]

Sir, it was in the video at the exact moment he says that it started as a haiku. It reads I do not like sand It’s coarse, ,rough, irritating It get everywhere.

[@rparl]

I think it's the one that they showed.

[@wanderingrandomer]

@@rparl I doubt it. That was a Star Wars meme.

[@zarithbuildslego9353]

Came here after watching the masterpiece in IMAX :D

[@taptiotrevizo9415]

John W. Campbell I never expected him.

[@oopus4]

One of the greatest Sci-fi novels i've read, now i just need the sequels.

[@cjayx]

I'm also here to say I love Dune! I have an Arrakis travel poster on my wall, and a hoodie with the Atriedes crest on it!