The Hobbit - J. R. R. Tolkien - So You Haven't Read

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@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
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@Mar1aHass4n
@Mar1aHass4n 3 жыл бұрын
Im doing the hobbit rn in school thank you guys ( i read it 21 times )
@Genesis23OPB
@Genesis23OPB 3 жыл бұрын
small correction: the factions in the war dont include the eagles as they come at the very end, its humans, dwarfes, elves, orcs and wargs that are counted as the factions.
@chipanderson5369
@chipanderson5369 3 жыл бұрын
Plz do The Lord of the Rings!
@strikereureka345
@strikereureka345 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Lord of the rings
@Lorgramoth
@Lorgramoth 3 жыл бұрын
Please consider not doing any more sponsorships with them! Hello Fresh mistreats their workers and suppresses unionisation efforts!
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 3 жыл бұрын
Nitpick: in the book, Bard's black arrow wasn't particularly deadly nor otherwise special except that it was his favourite, "lucky" arrow that he'd always saved for last and made sure to recover after each use.
@George_M_
@George_M_ 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it's not depicted as a ballista
@monkeybabble
@monkeybabble 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to nitpick that Gandalf and Bilbo weren't friends before the gathering with the dwarfs. Thus, the "good morning" conversation 😅.
@albertnormal6834
@albertnormal6834 3 жыл бұрын
As long as we're nitpicking, the eagles didn't fly the hobbit and friends to laketown.
@federicoapl
@federicoapl 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybabble correct me if i am wrong, but gandalf kenw Bilbo in his youth, when he was visiting Bilbos's mother. grandmother.
@bobgilbert1953
@bobgilbert1953 3 жыл бұрын
@@federicoapl They were...friends is a strong word. It's like saying you're friends with your parents friends.
@LORDOFDORKNESS42
@LORDOFDORKNESS42 3 жыл бұрын
My most favorite baffling thing about this book... Spoilers! Spoilers! Spoilers! ...Is how the great, big battle just... gets skipped over. Because the view-point character gets knocked out five minutes into it. And has to hear a second hand account on how awesome it was! That one took some GUTS as a writer, even back then.
@poilboiler
@poilboiler 3 жыл бұрын
The kinda bad Hobbit movies would have been improved by that.
@LORDOFDORKNESS42
@LORDOFDORKNESS42 3 жыл бұрын
@@poilboiler Honestly, I mostly liked & enjoyed the Hobbit Movie trilogy... but yeah, they're deeply flawed. Won't even pretend otherwise.
@davidwilliam9681
@davidwilliam9681 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of what happened to Tolkien himself in real life, during WW1.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 3 жыл бұрын
The book originates with a story he told his kids when they were small, he did not want to into gory details.
@KaiJason
@KaiJason 3 жыл бұрын
when they turned 2 pages into a 2 and half hour moive... I wish they didn't.
@Centurian128
@Centurian128 3 жыл бұрын
As one who has read "The Hobbit" recently, I love the amount of references that made it into this one. From the colors of the Dwarves caps, to the Trolls from "Hilda," to Smaug looking like the version from the 1977 animated "The Hobbit." Huge props on this episode! Great work!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Centurian128
@Centurian128 3 жыл бұрын
@@extrahistory Most welcome!
@tanketom
@tanketom 3 жыл бұрын
I also want to congratulate them on Bilbo's beard. That etching pattern is near and dear to my heart.
@niivoenterprises-4217
@niivoenterprises-4217 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the trolls too :)
@CoffeeWyrm
@CoffeeWyrm 3 жыл бұрын
Also, a reference to Fantasy from 'The Pagemaster' at 4:20 ... I might be the only one who remembers that movie.
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 3 жыл бұрын
3:23 So, the whole thing about Bilbo initially lying about how exactly he got the ring and only revealing the true story later was actually an in-universe reflection of Tolkien's later ret-con to make LoTR work? I've been a huge fan of those books for ages, and I never knew that.
@thomassaxon8254
@thomassaxon8254 3 жыл бұрын
Tolkien was big into the meta game - the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit are meant to be the book of Westmarch written by Bilbo and Frodo that Tolkien has translated for us.
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 3 жыл бұрын
Hobbits have the highest base stealth score, and some of the highest magic resistance scores in the setting.
@codebracker
@codebracker 3 жыл бұрын
And they can reroll natural 1s
@ghostkaiser1716
@ghostkaiser1716 3 жыл бұрын
I was raised on Tolkein literature, and this is always a good story.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@rune5916
@rune5916 3 жыл бұрын
This is always a GREAT story.
@mattoni553
@mattoni553 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien Tolkien was an outstanding writer!
@InquisitorThomas
@InquisitorThomas 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where Legolas jumped defied physics but running across a bridge of falling debris. The most important part of the book.
@batbite_
@batbite_ 3 жыл бұрын
My most hated moment
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 3 жыл бұрын
Or when Tauriel and Kili spent what felt like forever taking turns making last-minute saves from certain doom for each other until one of them finally rolled a natural 1...
@marcus4046
@marcus4046 3 жыл бұрын
nah man the part with dain ironfoot and his anti arrow balistas and the goats....(ok i dont know if thats not a part of the book but i still liked that part it was funny)
@unknownfor3818
@unknownfor3818 3 жыл бұрын
@@rmsgrey "I could have something down my trousers"
@mattdarrock666
@mattdarrock666 3 жыл бұрын
Because it's perfectly normal to walk on fresh snow and not sink...
@Jtwhite500
@Jtwhite500 3 жыл бұрын
My college, strangely enough, has an incredible collection of J. R. R. Tolkien documents including the very first reference to the Hobbit written on a student’s exam.
@herman1francis
@herman1francis 3 жыл бұрын
if i recall correctly he was writing a 0 on a student's exam and he was inspired to write : in a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. And as they say, the rest is history
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 3 жыл бұрын
Marquette University?
@kathyastrom1315
@kathyastrom1315 3 жыл бұрын
They bought his archive back in the mid-50s for just $5000!
@Jtwhite500
@Jtwhite500 2 жыл бұрын
@@spangelicious837 Correct.
@K9TheFirst1
@K9TheFirst1 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to "So You Haven't Read The Silmarillian." Heck, just an episode on The Children of Hurin would make my year.
@Ninjaned
@Ninjaned 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 жыл бұрын
noooo... not Narn i Chin Hurin... please no 😢
@kennyhagan5781
@kennyhagan5781 2 жыл бұрын
The Silmarillion....now THAT'S the stuff!
@troygrindley3793
@troygrindley3793 2 жыл бұрын
Controversial opinion….the Chikdren of Húrin is THE best work of Tolkien.
@michellesheppard9253
@michellesheppard9253 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Silmarillion!
@ShawnMM
@ShawnMM 3 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite books but you got some errors in the video. Gandalf was with them most of the time till Mirkwood before leaving for a side-quest. The eagles did not take them to Lake-town but instead an area to West of Mirkwood, where they meet Beorn. At least in interviews Tolkien said he hated allegories. The taking of a cup angering the dragon comes from Beowulf.
@ChrisMattern-oh6wx
@ChrisMattern-oh6wx 4 ай бұрын
A few others: the elven languages came first, a toy for the amusement of a developing linguist. Then thoughts of what kind of people would speak that language led to the first drafts of the Silmarillion. The Hobbit, which started as bedtime stories for Tolkien's children, was at first not connected to "Middle Earth". When The Hobbit was a success, Allen & Unwin wanted a sequel. Tolkien countered by asking if they could try publishing the Silmarillion. After looking at it, Allen & Unwin declared it unpublishable; it would never sell. So Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings, a sequel to The Hobbit--and to the Silmarillion, tying the two previously unrelated works together. Matt mentions The Hobbit's starting point as "The Shire". The Shire is never mentioned in The Hobbit. Not once. Bilbo's home is simply described being located in "The Hill". The Shire as the greater region that contained The Hill was not presented until The Lord of The Rings. Addendum the maps mention Hobbiton--but not the Shire.
@25Leprechaun
@25Leprechaun 3 жыл бұрын
3 for the elven Kings under the sky 7 for the dwarf Lords in their Halls of stone 9 for the mortal men doomed to die 1 for the dark lord on his dark throne One ring to rule them all One ring to find them One ring to bring them all And in the darkness bind them In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie.
@Rojaniel
@Rojaniel 3 жыл бұрын
The influence of this book could never be overstated. This, combined with war games, was responsible for D&D, which led to the creation of Ultima and Wizardry, which led to the creation of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, etc. The concept of an RPG.
@gordonstewart5774
@gordonstewart5774 3 жыл бұрын
and Renaiissance Fairs
@ChaosDX1
@ChaosDX1 3 жыл бұрын
Where would modern fantasy be without Tolkien? At the very least elves would probably still be short toymakers instead of tall forest hermits. Pretty sure that was Tolkien's decision, and fantasy writers have been borrowing that image, and many others, ever since.
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 3 жыл бұрын
Others would have found inspiration in Nordic stories, perhaps not explode like he ended up, but he also didn't get famous over night.
@MehrumesDagon
@MehrumesDagon 3 жыл бұрын
reminds me of a translation of hobbit I have read in elementary school... where sting was apparently made by "gnomes of gondolin" xD
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 3 жыл бұрын
Arent Christmas Elves also a modern invention?
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 3 жыл бұрын
@@gunjfur8633 Older then the Hobbit and of similar folk lore origin to what became fantasy elves, but didn't fully have an identity as anything but fay tricksters, nor had association with christmas till about mid 1800's
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 3 жыл бұрын
@@insaincaldo Remimds me of how the only named Elf from Norse Myth was a Smith, even though thats more of a Dwarf trait
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure one of these days you'll come across a book I actually haven't read. There's so many that odds are good one of them is on your list.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
Challenge Accepted!
@cataquackwarlord5389
@cataquackwarlord5389 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the order of events described is a little jumbled. The goblin/Gollum encounters and the eagle rescued happened before the giant spiders, as the party also had to venture through a confusing forest before reaching Lake Town. Also, Gandalf was around some of the time, not leaving the party completely until they reached the woods.
@JHa-se7or
@JHa-se7or 3 жыл бұрын
The Hobbit and Lord of The Rings books are definitely a different style of writing to modern books. Its hard to explain what I mean, but Tolkien and his contemporaries wrote differently compared to the writers of today. Its more.... dense.
@Jaime_garcia-
@Jaime_garcia- 3 жыл бұрын
All those trees
@elizabethc1463
@elizabethc1463 3 жыл бұрын
Tolkien had a famous hatred of allegory. He said repeatedly that nothing in his books was an allegory of anything.
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't get over that Gandalf hijacks Bilbo's house for a dwarven rave, then bamboozles Bilbo into tagging along when he had no interest in going...AND THEN has the temerity to abandon the party halfway through, right when things get seriously dangerous. There's RUDE, and then there's what Gandalf pulled! XD Also, wow, youtube's auto-captions recognize the word "burninate". I would not have expected that.
@maddie9602
@maddie9602 3 жыл бұрын
Homestar Runner's reach is far.
@AegixDrakan
@AegixDrakan 3 жыл бұрын
@@maddie9602 "WAH! That is not a small [reach]! That is a BIG [reach]! What are we gonna do?!"
@isaiahesters5432
@isaiahesters5432 2 жыл бұрын
I see this as a setup so that when he returns he can say "If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved."
@reillycurran8508
@reillycurran8508 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Tolkien used his experience from the trenches a lot more when telling the story of Sam and Frodo scaling the mountain, that whole section is apparently an allegory about the specific forms of hell that trench warfare put you through, even down to them forgetting the tastes of some foods.
@MySerpentine
@MySerpentine 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. The Dead Marshes were the no-mans-land in the rain.
@vexaris1890
@vexaris1890 Жыл бұрын
No, no allegory. Tolkien hated allegories.
@the_tactician9858
@the_tactician9858 Жыл бұрын
​@@vexaris1890No allegory, but he heavily leans on his experience in the war. And while he despises allegories there are clear themes visible in his story, like the devastation industrial military economies bring onto the world, the dangers of greed and power and that the ideal society is the humble but pleasurable hobbit society.
@futball51
@futball51 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like a link to the source of Tolkien specifically calling out the allegory regarding Smaug.. considering Tolkien being famous for stating that he hates allegory and any allegory you see in his writing is your own perspective
@kittydreamz86
@kittydreamz86 3 жыл бұрын
"The sort of rage that is seen only when rich folk that have more than they can enjoy suddenly lose something that they have long had but have never before used or wanted."
@kittydreamz86
@kittydreamz86 3 жыл бұрын
Allegory, for the record, is not the same thing as allusion or relevance. He very much intended The Hobbit to be conparative to the small village dwelling, everyday people of England and their capacity for resiliance, strength, and goodness, for example.
@essneyallen6777
@essneyallen6777 3 жыл бұрын
He hated the concept of allegory as in "allegorical stories" that have a fixed meaning to decode. He prefered for his works the term "applicability" (iirc) because in any narration of fantasy you will find elements and experiences (and similes) that relate to our own world.
@futball51
@futball51 3 жыл бұрын
@@kittydreamz86 thank you!
@tolkienism3806
@tolkienism3806 7 ай бұрын
​@@kittydreamz86 one quote does not make something an alegpry. Dragons are known for being greedy, even the beowolf dragon, witch smaug was heavily based on was greedy. Allegory is not a baseline comparison between one thing and another. Sure it is a big part, but it is a bit more complicated.
@ErikGunnarDahlin
@ErikGunnarDahlin 3 жыл бұрын
A correction to the video. The "battle of the five armies", the "five armies" do not count the eagles as one of the armies, and not Beorn, neither the bats or the ravens. The five armies are Goblins, Wolves, Elves, Men, Dwarves and the fifth army... Wargs! Source is The Annotated Hobbit, ed. Douglas A. Anderson, p. 339
@mikesands4681
@mikesands4681 3 жыл бұрын
There were two armies of dwarves. Those in the mountain and those coming to rescue them.
@twistedtachyon5877
@twistedtachyon5877 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesands4681 the ones in the mountain don't get to be their own army, since there's only 12 of them.
@IdaSantti
@IdaSantti 2 жыл бұрын
@@twistedtachyon5877 13
@caenieve
@caenieve 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone curious, the Tengwar (Elvish script) at 7:36 is in English and says “like Elvish”
@manarmsgaming9223
@manarmsgaming9223 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually reading this right now! What hilarious timing!
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
Totally planned that! :)
@ianmoore4159
@ianmoore4159 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, Gandalf takes his rightful place as a conjurer of Cheap Trick!
@charlesbennett7484
@charlesbennett7484 3 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to "The Hobbit" in school when we were made to read a few chapters out of a textbook. I HAD to go find the actual book. After I did find a copy ( at a thrift store), my Great Uncle gave me the "Lord of the Rings" books as well.
@coold3awesome98
@coold3awesome98 3 жыл бұрын
Gandalf: Do not take me for some conjurer of cheap tricks! Also Gandalf: 2:25 Love this reference.
@vel0xraperio
@vel0xraperio 3 жыл бұрын
Skipping Beorn and Mirkwood is unforgivable! Roll a charisma check for forgiveness!
@tvvideos9937
@tvvideos9937 3 жыл бұрын
Not just skipping, but completely erasing. The journey through Mirkwood is pretty key for explaining the elves' motivation for the war. Surely you can do better EC.
@cataquackwarlord5389
@cataquackwarlord5389 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of a correction about Gandalf's relationship to Bilbo - he was more of a family friend than BFF, at least at the start of the story. He shows up, and Bilbo has no idea who he is until he gives his name. That said, they do have a strong friendship by the end.
@georgy2596
@georgy2596 3 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure bilbo just forgot about him
@cubeul2943
@cubeul2943 3 жыл бұрын
Gollum was called so because of the gulping sound he makes at the end of his sentences, the book explicitly states that he calls himself “My precious (though LOTR complicates this somewhat)
@deathofme1
@deathofme1 3 жыл бұрын
Cat dragon Smaug from the animated movie is my favorite version. His monologue about how hardcore awesome he is gives me freaking chills
@moonsaces2122
@moonsaces2122 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Pagemaster reference! One of my favorite movies as a child and totally an inspiration for me studying library science
@benjaminfeld6388
@benjaminfeld6388 3 жыл бұрын
You know, the hobbit is one of my favorite stories. So I cannot thank you enough for this episode.
@Audentior_Ito
@Audentior_Ito 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine talking about JRRT's work without mentioning how much his passionate Christianity, his linguistic scholarship, & his children shaped his world/stories.
@_M4X15
@_M4X15 3 жыл бұрын
They have and did.
@Read_Scripture
@Read_Scripture 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, the journeying, genealogy and a lot of the narrative etc are pretty much inspired from scripture. You can definitely see his bible nerding in his creation of middle earth etc.
@CrimsonBlasphemy
@CrimsonBlasphemy 3 жыл бұрын
And how is childhood trauma from a South African tarantula bite, has cause spiders to be cemented as default "evil creature" in fantasy settings. From D&D to Minecraft.
@Audentior_Ito
@Audentior_Ito 3 жыл бұрын
@@Read_Scripture absolutely! And, as the Hobbit was primarily written to be a uniquely Anglo-Saxon series of fairy tales, it's no accident that its evil is all tied to Christian ethics. Greedy dragons, gluttonous trolls, wrathful goblins, worshippers of dark false powers.
@MovieFan1912
@MovieFan1912 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention his travels, including Lauterbrunnen.
@MrBrockman407
@MrBrockman407 3 жыл бұрын
"One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them. One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness, bind them."
@marjae2767
@marjae2767 3 жыл бұрын
Ash nazg durbatuluk, Ash nazg gimbatul, Ash nazg thrakatuluk, Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
@stevenclark2188
@stevenclark2188 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I love most about The Hobbit, is that it's not just the precursor to the standard epic fantasy, it's also the precursor to Pratchett-style snarky fantasy.
@ruthbennett7563
@ruthbennett7563 Жыл бұрын
GNU Sir Terry ❤
@gregvoelker7386
@gregvoelker7386 3 жыл бұрын
Uh...the giant eagles flew Bilbo to Lake Town? No '14 little birds bonfire' escape? No Beorn? No Mirkwood spiders? No Wood Elves? No barrel ride?
@kevinsullivan3448
@kevinsullivan3448 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Gandalf's level is [REDACTED].
@michellesheppard9253
@michellesheppard9253 2 жыл бұрын
If you read the Silmarillion, you would know why.
@ChrisMattern-oh6wx
@ChrisMattern-oh6wx 4 ай бұрын
He's a Notorious Monster!
@cmschmidt
@cmschmidt 3 жыл бұрын
I love the burninating reference, and all the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins references. Perfection!
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 3 жыл бұрын
2:32 "you get captured by trolls" Correction those are Hilda trolls
@jonathanfaber3291
@jonathanfaber3291 3 жыл бұрын
I await the day this covers Neuromancer, so we can finally, finally, have the extra sci-fi series about William Gibson we deserve
@Breakfast_of_Champions
@Breakfast_of_Champions 3 жыл бұрын
This. Or maybe even the Expanse, the last book has just released, complete series is a good time for an overview.
@stevenn1940
@stevenn1940 3 жыл бұрын
So, I might have misread that as "necrodancer" for a second.. I've been playing a lot of crypt of the necrodancer lately. Neuromancer makes more sense though lol
@JackGladstoneHolroyde
@JackGladstoneHolroyde 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god yes
@TechWechSech
@TechWechSech 2 жыл бұрын
''The dragon is an allegory for the rich hoarding wealth'' Meanwhile Tolkien denied his whole life that any of his work is allegorical. Way to distort the truth to push a narrative.
@Metal_Maoist
@Metal_Maoist 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't he just say his books weren't an allegory for christianity? Also, I'm pretty sure he wasn't against allegory in general, he was just against authors claiming that their authorial intent is the only way to see their story and saying that readers aren't allowed to interpret them for themselves
@dubbingsync
@dubbingsync 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t this series always start with “literature can be read multiple ways”. Even if Tolkien didn’t intend for that to be the reading when he wrote the book, Smaug can easily be seen as a “hoarder” type.
@Hammahlovesyou
@Hammahlovesyou 3 жыл бұрын
Finally one I've read, and I've listened to that song on repeat more than once 🤣
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
It's a dang good one!
@mariannam.a.r.s9238
@mariannam.a.r.s9238 2 жыл бұрын
Bilbo and Gandalf weren't originally bffs. Gandalf and Bilbo's grandfather (on his mother side) were bffs. Gandalf and Bilbo's friendship develops throughout the events of the "Hobbit''. Loved the video❤️
@goktimusprime
@goktimusprime 2 жыл бұрын
The plural of index is indices, and the plural of medium is media.
@garcalej
@garcalej Жыл бұрын
Bilbo: Stuff to do? Gandalf: I assure you, I would not abandon this venture were it not a matter of the most grave importance. And right now the fate of Middle Earth balances on getting Cheap Trick back together…..
@LAKINGSFAN99
@LAKINGSFAN99 3 жыл бұрын
How'd you fit this book into 1 episode? I thought it'd take at least 3! 😉
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 2 жыл бұрын
Tolkien laid the foundation of fantasy. Without him, we wouldn’t have had other iconics like Harry Potter and A Song of Ice and Fire. Without him, not only would literature be different as a whole, but also film and television. It was the massive success of the Jackson films that helped kick off a revolution in Hollywood.
@martinj.fowler6262
@martinj.fowler6262 Жыл бұрын
I love the LotR and especially The Hobbit but I don't like what Peter Jackson did with either. He left out the most important chapter of LotR "The Scouring of the Shire" and The Hobbit was just abysmal - totally changing the story and making it too doomy. Yes the original has the death of a major character which is sad (no spoiler) but it's a good death. The tone of the film is wrong and I can't help wondering what Guillomo del Torro would have made of it; we will never know.
@cataquackwarlord5389
@cataquackwarlord5389 3 жыл бұрын
I loved reading the Hobbit as a kid - and still do! I really like the edition I have because it's really big and has these beautiful illustrations by Michael Hague - some of them, like the Battle of Five Armies and the dwarves at Bilbo's home, are two-page spreads and truly a sight to behold, capturing the wondrous feel of the story perfectly.
@YukiEiri4E
@YukiEiri4E 3 жыл бұрын
I love this but thanks for the unexpected cry. RIP Mr Nimoy, you amazing person
@MrFisher150421
@MrFisher150421 2 жыл бұрын
2:31 - I LOVE that you used the Hilda trolls, it's such a subtle and awesome nod to such a great series!
@AatiNiiranen
@AatiNiiranen 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact J. R. R. Tolkien was inspired by Finnish mythology for his stories
@gunjfur8633
@gunjfur8633 3 жыл бұрын
Partly yes
@anonymouslyopinionated656
@anonymouslyopinionated656 2 жыл бұрын
More Anglo-Saxon mythology than Finnish... Finnish + Welsh were the prime influences for his languages though.
@QUIRK1019
@QUIRK1019 3 жыл бұрын
I have re-read The Hobbit so many times I can recite the first page. Y'all did a great job
@M.E.ANDHistory
@M.E.ANDHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed that one or more of the following is covered: 1) War and Peace 2) Les Miserables 3) Dante's Divine Comedy 4) Canterbury Tales 5) The Hunchback of Notre Dame 6) The Da Vinci Code
@AaronCorr
@AaronCorr 3 жыл бұрын
The Hobbit was my very first "proper" book. I still have my parents' old version
@benhobson3084
@benhobson3084 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Except for Dracula, every book you have covered thus far was required reading for me in high school. What is next "So You Haven't Read - Crabbe" or "So You Haven't Read - The Chrysalids" I should start a bingo card.
@twistedtachyon5877
@twistedtachyon5877 3 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of those two. What's a chrysalid?
@Lunautau101
@Lunautau101 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have read this because I had a 6th grade English teacher obsessed with Tolkien
@olorin7611
@olorin7611 3 жыл бұрын
You completely forgot Beorn! You know, the giant shape-changing bear who personally wins the Battle of the 5 Armies for the heroes? C'mon man.
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 3 жыл бұрын
"Gandal rolls a natural 20 on his persuasion check." Wrong. The DM cannot override player choice with rolls. If Bilbo went, then it's because his player really wanted to go and he just needed something to justify his character's motives.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The DM can override any rule they wish. It's just that it's usually a bad idea to force PCs into doing things without the player's approval if you want to keep your players. Also, the Dwarves are clearly NPCs, and they still needed to be persuaded. And furthermore, there are plenty of examples where the dice are used to override player choice: Player: I choose to jump across the chasm DM: Make an Athletics check Player: DM: That's a failed check, but I cannot override your choice, so you jump across the chasm and land safely on the other side.
@vojtechhoracek7923
@vojtechhoracek7923 Жыл бұрын
Love the way you drew professor Tolkien, writing happily under a tree. Awesome!
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 жыл бұрын
“C’mon, boys, we’re going to an adventure!”
@wendynordstrom3487
@wendynordstrom3487 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Hilda trolls and the Trogdor reference. Keep up the good work!
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 3 жыл бұрын
Smaug isn't the only person in that movie who references greed. Movie Thorin concentrates on the needs of his entire party, but book Thorin is all about "My" this and "My" that. His greed at the end is totally foreshadowed in the Unexpected Party. Very nice, by the way.
@markfurlong9542
@markfurlong9542 3 жыл бұрын
Andy Circus gave a great performance in LotR, but your interpretation of Gollum's physical appearance is much closer to what I had imagined. also, big fan of that "Cheap Trick" joke! this series has been great, and I can't wait for the next one!
@jacobshore5115
@jacobshore5115 3 жыл бұрын
I remember both reading and listening to it as a book on CD back in high school, it’s always one of my favorite books! Thanks for the video!
@jasonsantoli4584
@jasonsantoli4584 3 жыл бұрын
I love how they used the troll design from Hilda. It’s nice to know Extra Credits watches quality shows.
@analog3d0849
@analog3d0849 Жыл бұрын
I dad was a huge fan of The Hobbit and gave me his copy of The Hobbit which I still have today and has a really cool sleeve and has riding all over it. It was awesome.
@oneuptheextraman
@oneuptheextraman 3 жыл бұрын
I like how the order of information is 'leonard nimoy song' and THEN 'Tolkien character'.
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247
@thetribunaloftheimaginatio5247 3 жыл бұрын
In the Middle of the Earth In the land of the Shire Lives a brave little Hobbit Whom we all admire...
@ulfberht4431
@ulfberht4431 2 жыл бұрын
“As Tolkien pointed out, Smaug being an allegory for the rich and wealthy upper class..” Except that Tolkien never stated that anywhere and, if I recall, he actually said that he “cordially dislikes allegory and all of its manifestations”! So yeah, you’re outright lying Extra Credits!
@joshuaespinoza8325
@joshuaespinoza8325 Жыл бұрын
2:31 neat reference to Hilda, with the rock trolls. one of my favorite series' of all time.
@maxleroux
@maxleroux 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you guys are planning to review "A Christmas Carol" for the holiday season. That timeless classic has been reimagined more times than I can count.
@Kobies_14
@Kobies_14 Жыл бұрын
4:34 the eagles don’t fly them to lake town, they only fly them to the Carock where the meet Beorn and make their way through Mirkwood. At that point they get captured by the wood elves and escape down the river to lake town. You cut out like a quarter of the book.
@garrbigster
@garrbigster 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite book! Yayayayayayay this makes me so happy! Don't forget, it's a Christmas story, it has elves!
@Sniperboomheadshot49
@Sniperboomheadshot49 3 жыл бұрын
Been getting more into middle earth again. Glad to see The Hobbit get some love!
@lordspaghettiyetithe1st513
@lordspaghettiyetithe1st513 3 жыл бұрын
I swear to god i just rewatched the series over the past 6 days and now this drops. I am starting to question if life does revolve around me.
@olanhewitt4519
@olanhewitt4519 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the subtle strongbad Tragdore the burninator reference.
@DragoniteSpam
@DragoniteSpam 3 жыл бұрын
Coming full circle between Extra Sci-Fi and Extra Literature, are we?
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
We couldn't help ourselves!
@angrynightmob
@angrynightmob 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf, literally conjuring up Cheap Trick, I love that pun.
@pandawok301
@pandawok301 3 жыл бұрын
Far over, the misty mountains cold…
@enigmafleur9984
@enigmafleur9984 5 ай бұрын
Suggestion for a book to explain. PLEASE do The Outsiders. It's one of my favorite High school reads, and more people should know of it.
@eamonreidy9534
@eamonreidy9534 2 жыл бұрын
1) the great eagles don't fly the group to Lake Town. 2) don't use the term allegory when dealing with Tolkien's literature 3) the great eagles were not the fifth army. The wargs/wolves were.
@Slayer_Jesse
@Slayer_Jesse 3 жыл бұрын
The irony of this framing device is that in D&D, they're called Halflings, not Hobbits. This is because the Tolkien estate sued TSR over the use of the name back in the day.
@Switcharoo12
@Switcharoo12 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 "Burninate" the whole village; nice TROGDOR reference right there! 🤘
@blockmasterscott
@blockmasterscott 3 жыл бұрын
I love the name of the coffee shop, "Smaug Roast" LOL!!!!!!! Oh, and thank you so much for not bringing in the talking chair!
@LuccianoBartolini
@LuccianoBartolini 3 жыл бұрын
In the book, Bilbo wasn't friends with Gandalf until AFTEr finishing the adventure. In the book, Gandalf was searching for a descendent of th eTuk family (one of the few Hobbit families who like adventures) and he found Bilbo for the run. Bilbo REJECTS the request and Gandalf THEN decides to put the marker on Bilbo's door (without Bilbo knowing) to get Bilbo on the adventure anyway. Also, to justify the retcon, Tolkien wrote that the OG Hbbit book is the version that Bilbo published while the newest version is the official one "that nobody but Frodo and Gandalf" knows about.
@White__Ink
@White__Ink 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen this series! Book reviews! A whole new reason to check out this channel.
@silvadic2207
@silvadic2207 3 жыл бұрын
This book was one of my absolute favorites. Still read it every once in a while too! Oh! I also read it after a test along with the entire “Lord of the Rings” series in less than 4 hours.
@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 жыл бұрын
We power read through most of this series too!
@LedZeppeli
@LedZeppeli 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this series is happening
@benfarrar741
@benfarrar741 Жыл бұрын
I really like your presentation of this story. D&D style!
@toni-nl5ki
@toni-nl5ki 2 жыл бұрын
I think i founded my favourite episode of extra credits ever. I love hobbits and Lotr so much
@Nsinger998
@Nsinger998 2 жыл бұрын
In an alternate timeline Bilbo fails and is consumed by Smaug's Dragon-fire along with the one ring. For centuries afterward scholars would debate the cause of the sudden self-destruction of Mordor and Sauron while Conspiracy Theorists would insist the one ring still exists somewhere.
@YourFunkiness
@YourFunkiness 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a citation for that bit about Tolkein saying that Smaug was an allegory for the rich hoarding wealth? I've been doing some searching and haven't turned up anything.
@insaincaldo
@insaincaldo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel so called out, with an early 90's edition hard cover and the audio book, waiting on me to do more then skim the drawings and finding he misty mountain poem..
@tzisorey
@tzisorey 3 жыл бұрын
My friends and I will flip between saying "I've been Bagginsed" if we're feeling railroaded by the DM, and saying "I'm Bagginsed" if we're feeling like too little butter scraped over too little bread.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 3 жыл бұрын
as a person who has read this book I love this video
@stephenbenner4353
@stephenbenner4353 3 жыл бұрын
The best part about the Leonard Nimoy song is that he’s the only one in the video without pointed ears.
@TheEriegpman
@TheEriegpman 3 жыл бұрын
The Eagles didn't fly them to Laketown, but dropped them on that rock before Mirkwood...
@RavenKnightYT
@RavenKnightYT 3 жыл бұрын
….Question. When did Tolkien, a man who has gone on record saying his dislike of allegory, ever say that Smaug was an allegory for the wealthy upperclass? I want to know when and where he said that. I can’t believe he would be that contradictory.
@RKevinDoyle
@RKevinDoyle 3 жыл бұрын
Direct quote from The Hobbit "His rage passes description - the sort of rage that is only seen when rich folk that have more than they can enjoy suddenly lose something that they have long had but have never before used or wanted"
@sussell27
@sussell27 Жыл бұрын
I had three weeks to read this for school and now it's due tomorrow and I read 3 pages so now I'm here
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