Henry Ford - LIES - US History - Extra History

[@extrahistory]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Your content always makes My day guys! Love You all🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@ltpinecone]

I love how useful, modefiable, and repairable the Model T was. I really, REALLY wish cars nowadays were as simple and friendly to modification and repair as they were.

[@goncalo33]

The closest you can get to that is Lada Nivas/Rivas, that were still being produced a couple of years ago.

[@tuehojbjerg969]

@@goncalo33 but the ladas are crap cars

[@econman5670]

just get a toyota

[@goncalo33]

@@tuehojbjerg969 But they're easy to fix and parts are cheap.

[@bmyers7078]

Support “Right to Repair” legislation at Local, State and Federal levels.

[@stellaowen4821]

I was born in Michigan, at the hospital down the street from The Henry Ford Museum. It is an incredible place and some of my happiest childhood memories happened there and at Greenfield Village. I'm currently a history major at college and have no doubt that my experiences at the museum (and Extra History videos!) shaped my love of history. This was a great series! :)

[@brandonkelleyR]

As a UAW member and a ford employee I loved this serious. Would love one on unions or UAW if that's possible or even any good.

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

Yes. The rise, corruption, rebirth, and decline of unions, with the possibility of another rise on the horizon, as well as the impact that they've had.

[@Cinderbox]

would love to see EH cover unions *well*. Historcally they've been pretty centrist (derogatory) on some topics and it would be interesting seeing what angle they take on the subject of unions themselves.

[@jonathandavenport2500]

They've talked about Unions and union busting in some previous series. Like the Battle of Blair Mountain. Just search Extra History Unions. Also their Pinkerton episode from a few years ago is a good one off that also addresses the subjects of Unions. I hope you check these out if you haven't already and would love to hear back what you do get the opportunity and what you think.

[@scottanos9981]

I'm more disgusted by the Dodge Brothers than I am of Henry Ford. They started the whole "shareholders first!" legal precedent.

[@isaacverhelst3983]

A niche take, but a valid take

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

Based

[@Intellectual_Designs]

Bigger factory, more profit. He shareholders would have gotten more money had they waited.

[@noone4700]

And to this day Dodge could care less about their consumers, their company basically LIVES on “shock value” and their cars are astronomically easy to steal, really crazy how Kia has been damned by the international community while Dodge is experiencing some of the highest sales of their lifetime. Western Hypocrisy

[@hellishcyberdemon7112]

And you know what the icing onto the cake is that the dodge brothers were Jewish

[@Emeridian]

I can’t wait for the little ice age video! I always found that time period in history very interesting and I’m actually studying the little ice age in world history right now! Congrats on a billion views! ❤

[@extrahistory]

Thank you!

[@rayceeya8659]

My favorite story about the Model T is about a couple of Canadians who crossed the entire country in a Model T without an engine. They were towed the whole way, coast to coast without an engine.

[@prairiepennyproductions]

There is a BBC podcast where there's a panel and the host brings up three facts about a historical figure, the panel discusses things, and at the end they have to decide if that person was evil or a genius. They've covered people like Nixon, Escobar, Elvis, John Lennon, Charlie Chaplin, Emeline Pankhurst, Marie Stopes, Billie Holiday. They do the occasional special where they've looked at Darth Vader and Lara Croft as well, lol. It's called Evil Genius. One of the things that comes up a lot is the fact that genius doesn't exempt a lot of these figures from being evil, but they HAVE TO PICK ONE LABEL. They can't (as the host says) 'be wishy-washy' in their final verdict. As far as I know they haven't touched on Ford, but it would be interesting to see what they'd say about him.

[@isaacverhelst3983]

As a Metro Detroiter, it was so cool to have an extra history series where so many local things are mentioned. Like when greenfield village was mentioned I was like “oh my goodness! Love greenfield village!”

[@Canhistoryismylife]

10:04 A short on The Jungle and Chicago meat packing plant would be great!

[@randalthor741]

I would definitely like to see the Foreshadow again in future episodes! I thought it was a fun way to lampshade things.

[@jesseberg3271]

It was. Merch is fine, and people will buy it, but make it a reoccurring thing.

[@cjayx]

A quick short on Ford II would be cool. I find his character fascinating since he had all opportunities to live a pampered rich kid life, but instead chose to sweat it out running the company.

[@knightofarkronia9968]

I’m guessing he was the son of Edsel Ford?

[@cjayx]

@@knightofarkronia9968 yep. You can read a wikipedia page on him or pick up a copy of “Go Like Hell,” for a more entertaining read.

[@Lokitty719]

Definitely bring back the foreshadow. It was such a fun thing

[@PT5-Shorts]

Congratulations on one billion views Mr. Rath!

[@peggyliepmann5248]

It's interesting the number of times and various ways Rob's Hawaiian background comes up in these series. I wasn't expecting that connection right at the end.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

These lies sections always compliment an amazing series! Love it! You guys rock 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

[@extrahistory]

[@vegladex]

PLEASE keep the Foreshadow as a recurring character!!! I'm not at all familiar with "The Shadow" , think I might have heard of him in reference to Fallout 4's "Silver Shroud", but I thought it was such a fantastically funny bit of self-awareness on its own that you shouldn't worry about it being a bit of a niche reference, it just stands on its own merit!

[@nathanbeit-aharon7335]

Nicely painted Castellan, and my, what a lot of codices. Always fun when 2 seemingly unrelated things I like connect.

[@BackgroundHistory]

Hey guys, I've been a long time fan of your channel. Congrats on passing a billion views, y'all deserve them!

[@extrahistory]

[@PixelBytesPixelArtist]

Henry ford was a big deal growing up in Southeast Michigan and he is a part of Maker culture in the area. The company got serious attention in my elementary and middle school history curriculums (without the antisemitism) and Greenfield village and the museum hold a lot of great memories. Even as an ethnic jew Its pretty difficult not to love him the way i grew up learning about him. Great series

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

Thank you for this series. It was most excellent.

[@extrahistory]

It was a an exciting one to research!

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

Hal Roach told a Ford joke, I'll try to do it justice here: Henry Ford traveled to the Irish town where his family originally came from, and the town officials paid him a visit. While there, they heaped praise upon him, "You're the world's greatest entrepreneur, the world's greatest philanthropist, etc." Eventually they mentioned that the town was building a new hospital wing, and they asked him to make a donation. Ford took out his checkbook and wrote out a donation of $1,500, which they thanked him profusely for, and took their leave. The next day, the local newspaper ran a front page headline saying that Henry Ford had donated $15,000 to the new hospital wing. The town officials, showed up later in the day, and they apologized profusely, telling Ford that it was a mistake, that they'd have the paper print a retraction to correct the mistake. Ford, not wanting to be revealed to be less generous, told them that he'd instead give them the difference, on the condition that he'd be allowed to pick the inscription over the entrance to the hospital. They agreed, and he selected: *I came among you, and you took me in*

[@RG-tt1ru]

I don't get it, the inscription that is, maybe just my English . . . .

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@RG-tt1ru To "take someone in" has a double meaning, the most obvious is to show compassion and care for a person. The other is to pull a trick on a person. Ford's choice of words openly means the former, but given the context he would mean the latter.

[@RG-tt1ru]

@@eldorados_lost_searcher 😆

[@talideon]

20:25 - an Elon Musk reference wouldn't work, because Musk fell upwards by buying into existing companies at the right time, whereas Ford was an actual engineer. That said, it's a very real thing that when people achieve a level of success in a niche, they'll assume they're similarly right in other areas (and rarely are). There's even a term for this, and I've forgotten what it is. I can remember a related term that has to do with a famous physicist reading a newspaper and doing kind of the opposite: reading a whole bunch of things outside of his field by a writer and then something in his field that was horribly wrong and coming to thr realisation that he should question anything that writer wrote that he agreed with previously. And no, before anyone jumps in, this is not the Dunning-Krueger effect. It might be something related, but it's not the same thing. This is about parlaying your competence in one area into unjustified confidence in another, not simply an overinflated sense of competence, which is more general.

[@tobybartels8426]

Rob: ‘I could talk for 45 minutes, but I'm not going to do that.’ Also Rob: talks for 35 minutes. Thanks for keeping it short, Rob! 😂

[@OlaftheFlashy]

Release the Rob's rants on Ford cut.

[@1ronDragon]

The 45 min version sounds like a nice patreon bonus😅

[@matthew6466]

I want the full one. 1000000% want the full. Metro detroiter here and always curious to hear about local things from outside (but educated) perspectives.

[@extrahistory]

🤣🤣🤣

[@trevinbeattie4888]

Thank _you_ for making such engaging, entertaining, and educational content! ❤

[@freedombaby64]

HOW YOU MADE THIS 19 HOURS AGO IF THIS WAS MADE HALF A HOUR AGO?!

[@Benbot_4.0]

wait @freedombaby64 is right

[@goncalo33]

@@freedombaby64 Early access to channel members, I would assume.

[@extrahistory]

Thank you for watching!

[@SilverZephyrFalcon]

That Bertha Benz short sounds amazing! Can't wait for it to come out (if that's still happening)

[@missingaria2503]

Episode 4 Q&A, regarding comparing history to today: One of my favorite teachers, who was also the professor of one of the 3 college classes I actually used before deciding college was to expensive to be practical for us 90s kids, had been a double major in both history and philosophy. He taught my American history class at CPCC, and was a VERY good teacher. The kind of teacher who retained and passed most of his students because he made the subject so interesting. Essentially, what he would do is present the history of what happened. He would add no opinions, he wouldn't tell us how folks back then reacted, he would just lay out a particular event in the most unbiased way possible. Then, he would ask, "if this happened today, how do you think Americans would react?" Or maybe, "How do you think folks reacted to this after what we just learned yesterday?" Then us, as a class, would discuss for several minutes what we think the reaction was and what actions we thought would be taken by the public. Only after all of that, would he step in and say what actually happened. He did this because, without fail, every single time we were able to fairly accurately predict public sentiment and find out that folks today aren't really all that different from folks hundreds of years ago. In many American history/government classes you get students who can be super divided. Even in high school my classmates (incl myself) rarely agreed on anything. In that professor's class however, current political opinions/ideals didn't come up and we were able to debate and discuss in a way that involved listening to and learning from each other. I wish more history was presented in this way, it actually encourages intelligent thought.

[@666mrdoctor]

We definitely want a Foreshadow episode!!!!

[@bill2178]

you guys are the best ive been watching this channel for yrs and i still get excited about new episodes

[@extrahistory]

[@speedyjago]

I experience that double standard. In my case it's usually when people who don't know or forget that I'm a foreigner (though born in my country of residence) start complaining about foreigners (especially when they are using the collective foreigners). I always push back and try to get them to see how generalizing is unfair to everyone.

[@ferretyluv]

If you’re born in your country of residence, you’re not a foreigner.

[@stevencooper4422]

​@@ferretyluv Birthright citizenship is primarily just an American policy that some European nations have adopted as well. Citizenship by descent is more common worldwide and in the rest of Europe. Just depends on which country you're referring to.

[@jessicalee3229]

@@ferretyluv also, some ppl are intentionally excluded from birthright citizenship, such as the children of foreign diplomats. and some countries bar children of undocumented or refugees. Check out the story of NBA star Giannis. He has been pretty open about the fact that the only reason he and his siblings got Greek citizenship, despite having all been born there, is because he is a famous basketball player.

[@ferretyluv]

@@jessicalee3229 Those countries are smart. Illegals shouldn’t get citizenship with anchor babies.

[@jessicalee3229]

@@ferretyluv nobody is "illegal", nor chooses to be so. it's called, they have no choice. It's just whether a country has decided to make a pathway to documentation and/or citizenship an actual, viable pathway. Giannis and his entire family were undocumented, they were only given citizenship because he was so famous. most of own family was also undocumented, until laws expanded pathways for them.

[@thomaskilmer]

I know Ford gets a lot of "the good and the bad" historical treatment, but honestly it sounds like he had the bare minimum of good ideas necessary to achieve success without a trust fund, and then he was just a monster. In his personal life, in his humor, as a boss, in his politics, etc. He positioned himself at the center of something which did a lot of good for a lot of people, but that doesn't mean he was necessary for the process or that it makes him a good person. Taking control of something that does good for people so you can be a monstrous abusive dictator makes you *more* of a bad person in my books, not less.

[@scottanos9981]

He wasn't a monster. The historical context of the time is (due to how short the videos are) largely overlooked by the Extra History. Antisemitism in the 1920s was SO common in every western country. The fact that Ford adopted these beliefs and then promoted them was largely due to the fact that he was already surrounded by that kind of rhetoric. Remember, this is the same time period as the rise of not sees.

[@AStoryteller-for-fun]

You can't really judge a man with the time period of today. Remember, we are talking about the 20th century here, the same people who thought horseless carriage was impossible and that cigarette was healthy.

[@hancocki]

YES!! We definitely need more of the Shadow

[@MariaVosa]

I always like your videos - but I LOVE the Lies videos.

[@extrahistory]

It's always fun seeing how excited Rob gets talking about history.

[@Ianpact]

Thank you.

[@Vr_mangoman]

1B is a insane number 🎉🎉🎉

[@geneyounkin6789]

Yes! I would love Foreshadow merchandise. I will buy a Foreshadow coffee mug as soon as it’s available.

[@historynerd9381]

I think that you should make a video on the winter war. It was a war between the soviets and the Finns, where it felt like a russian defeat, although they won through sheer manpower.

[@ItalianCountryball11]

Congratulations on 1 billion views Extra History!

[@edwardyuan4392]

In some ways "the I'm not running a bank" sentiment can be a read as anti-semetic jab. Something that would be a completely fair sentiment but is coloured differently by his known anti-Semitism.

[@Dap1ssmonk]

This is one of those complicated things, because from the looks of early ford, he hated banks specifically, which grew into his antisemtism. He grew up rural and saw how banks ruined farm families every time a farm had a bad harvest and couldn’t pay its creditors. It’s hard to tell which he hated more or really which came first.

[@lindaknight3518]

I very much enjoy your lies section on the series you people do. One thing I wonder about is why don't you show the books and other reference material that you used for that series? I mean just show a picture of the particular book/reference material on the screen. I tend to get lost when you just mention the name and the author of the work. I guess I am one of these people that needs a visual component to help me follow the theme. That's one of the reasons why I like "extra history" so much, lots of visuals. And congratulations on reaching the one billion mark!

[@blacksmeim8791]

I don't know if you could answer a question for me: What opinion did Ford have on railroads and trains? It seems like he would hate them because the were his transportation rivals.

[@Fulmir-]

Quick note, ulcers aren't caused by stress, though they wouldn't habe known that at the time. The stress probably made them flare up though, because stress can supress the immune system.

[@aaroncarpenter1122]

babe, wake up, new extra history episode

[@ICountFrom0]

Maybe the Foreshadow in a pin? Certainly as a character. Having the Foreshadow show up if you want to draw our attention to it could serve as a good shorthand and language.

[@OtherMomo]

Out of context these videos always look like historic hit pieces, like HENRY FORD (built his reputation on) LIES

[@meganreese1486]

You guys should totally do the story of Rudolf Diesel - creator of the Diesel engine! His life was fascinating!

[@Dylan-mx4dc]

Its a shame you guys also forgot to mention that one time Ford got in a rap battle against Karl Marx and lost.

[@DuranmanX]

I almost want to see a short series on American eccentrics like Howard Hughes, Thomas Edison, William Randolph Hearst, Henry Ford and Elon Musk (I know Musk wasn't born in America but still).

[@TheCreepypro]

ford just like any other historical figure is someone we should learn from but not idealize or demonize because just like any other historical figure they inform us about ourselves and the human condition when anyone is given too much power

[@straightman2]

Maybe down the line you guys could do a series on Preston Tucker and the 48 Tucker Torpedo. It was a car that was so revolutionary for the time that it shook the foundation of the American auto industry. It had safety features that were unheard of for the time and had an extremely powerful motor for its displacement. Eventually the Big 3 (GM, Chrysler, and Ford) got so worried that they bribed the SEC to take down Tucker by trying to charge him with securities fraud. It didnt hold up in court and they ruled in favor of tucker, but he ended up dying before he could manufacture any more vehicles

[@freedombaby64]

I've always loved the henry ford series been waiting for it on a looooong time (congrats on getting 1 bil views!)

[@JosephShemelewski]

Idk I also heard colt started the assembly line and tried to make parts standardized and interchangeable

[@Game_Hero]

6:24 Joseph Cugnot : "And I took that personally"

[@alejandroazurdia2937]

Warhammer 40k in the background... Lovely to see fans outhere

[@Futuresorcerer]

As someone who will revisit past series when I think that they are currently relevent, how non challant if felt that it came out during the strike that you got lucky with the timing.

[@jackmessick2869]

I thought it was pretty clear in your production the automobile was not invented by Ford.

[@tulliusexmisc2191]

Nice timing. Ideally every EH biography should finish shortly before the subject appears in Epic Rap Battles of History.

[@randycampbell6307]

As an aside, (and because I love this bit of knowledge :) ) back in my teen years in California I had a friend and his dad who were part of the big Model T restoration and driving community of the day. Another member was one Lloyd Acarr who was also a local radio DJ. How he convinced his wife for this I don't know but his first born son was in fact named Modell Acarr so yes, he was known as Model A Car :)

[@jonmoldenhauer347]

I do want Foreshadow merch and want to see that character be a recurring one.

[@fedoramaster6035]

24:30 I appreciate you not giving him an armchair ADD diagnosis. As someone with ADD, I find the idea that Henry fords utter ignorance was a result of it to be uh.. slightly offensive? Not that I think you were implying that, just like.. the thought makes me feel icky.

[@Lcngopher]

As a metro detroiter, im kinda sad to say ive never been to greenfield village. I have taken the rouge tour multiple times, been to a film at the imax there, and done the museum. Just never got to the village. On my bucket list though

[@silasfrisenette9226]

"I could probably talk about him for 45 minutes .. but I won't" *Proceeds to talk about it for 35 minutes* 🤭

[@crazycatdragon]

OMG!!!!!! YOUR MOM IS FROM THE AMARILLO AREA!!!!!! I was born in Amarillo and grew up in Stratford!!!!!! Tell your Mom hi from a fellow high plainer!!!!!!!,

[@RulerOfWoopers]

Hey I was watching ur vid on the Wendigo from 4 years back and I was wondering if you could do one in the Texas Goat Man! It is a great legend that I think you’ll love!

[@KOkami03]

The Foreshadow merch could be interesting! Make it!

[@TheHorzabora]

The Foreshadow! Yes! On a mug! On t-shirts!

[@andrewphilos]

Oh, Wu Zetian! I'm very excited. I just read "Iron Widow," so if you don't mention that, I'm gonna be real upset. /jk

[@HarvestStore]

Great video.

[@alexhoeksma5924]

After the new epic rap battle would love to see a series on Karl marx

[@SirNerdTheThird5143]

When you said "little ice age", I thought you were gonna talk about the blizzard of 79(I am pretty sure it was in the 70's)

[@johnnystone1136]

I'm telling you, you should do dodge brothers

[@gudolph]

Is that a familiar dagger on the shelf behind you? The Shadow knows!

[@ConeMann]

You should talk about the founder of l'oreal

[@bigc6812]

I know you guys are probably inundated with suggestions from your fans, but nevertheless I would love if you guys would take another. I feel like you guys would do an amazing job doing a single-episode series about Americans building nuclear shelters in suburbs.

[@jorgelotr3752]

32:49 "let me introduce you to IBM"

[@ОлегКозлов-ю9т]

I want Foreshadow to be a recurring character

[@austingibson3505]

I was hoping y’all would have touched on how he wanted to buy the whole city of Muscle Shoals, Alabama

[@Emy0530]

Will you do a video about the inventor of the car Karl Benz as well maybe?

[@ferretyluv]

My ex’s aunt worked on The Shadow movie. Also, Ford was particularly antisemitic for an American even for the time.

[@Mcfunface]

Only because he had a mouthpiece to broadcast it via his newspaper. Privately the public was antisemitic enough to refuse a lot of Jewish refugees from central Europe in the 30s.

[@LiamNI]

You STILL didn't mention anything about when Ford stole Harry Ferguson's tractor design, going back on a contract.

[@Speedyolrac]

I wanna see the foreshadow. Because he knows.

[@Khornecussion]

Vehicles back then " We shall make the most innovative thing possible and it shall be reliable for years on years to come. " Modern: " We're gonna make parts of it that are expensive and hard to replace by untrained mechanics and this pieces will be designed to fail after two to four years. F*ck you. "

[@gregmartell1235]

Do a History of Puerto Rico a Taino eras to 1889 Spanish American War. Please🙏

[@rembrandt972ify]

Don't make me turn this car around. -Bertha Benz, 1889

[@Billi_crow]

i super loved this series, i love the depth of understanding i now have of him. i share the same birthday and when i wqas ypunger i vaguely admired him, later i desperately hated him. now i have a healthy dose of both

[@richardjayroe8922]

Look at the railroad locomotive shops for an assembly line

[@internetperson3436]

Shadow seems cool but I can't say I like foreshadow. It feels like the joke is a bit shoehorned in, and like it was trying too hard to hint at Henry ford's anti-Semitism, instead of just letting the hints be subtle

[@randomguythatwatchesshorts]

BRO I THOUGHT THIS SERIES OF FORD WAS OVER

[@jasonking3466]

I'm an English teacher, of course I would like a Foreshadow cup. Not a mug, I don't drink coffee.

[@HebaruSan]

The KZbin subscriptions page displays "shorts" very poorly (only one row with a "show more", pulled out of order from the list, channel name and duration hidden, watch later button missing, etc.), so I haven't seen one in several months.

[@andrewstephens7246]

Better to have good people that do bad things than to have good people that do nothing

[@RBXROCK]

Those that are excellent are rarely good.

[@TheShatteredParadox]

loved the foreshadow!

[@notdanroth]

Came here to say dis-assembly line...he already did it in the video

[@marcusc9931]

Nice undead.

[@javilorenzana]

So weird listening to this in the context of the actual pro and anti Zionist discourse that's happening right this moment because of the conflict in Gaza.

[@uriabinenshtok]

a MacBook question: do you use regular type-c to charge your Mac or do you have a magnetic one (just not seeing it in this video)

[@fedoramaster6035]

29:25 I think it’s also worth mentioning that someone’s impact on the world and their quality as an individual are two VASTLY different things - they often intersect, but they’re not mutually entwined. I think with ford I can safely say that he was (in my opinion) both a bad person and someone who negatively impacted the world overall.

[@theparegorickid23]

Will you make a extra mythology channel

[@anthonymcarthur6504]

“Historical figures aren’t carton characters” Show cartoon character.