The Black Dinner - Scottish History - Extra History

[@extrahistory]

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[@Texanprime]

Please do Texas revolution please extra history

[@humanperson3365]

Love these vids

[@yolosnazzy4175]

please do chechnya war

[@enriconassetti4946]

@@Texanprime do that please extra history

[@eduardogutierrez4698]

What about the Lies episode on Frederick the Great?

[@dripduck9393]

Dying because you ordered a passageway to be blocked off because you kept losing tennis balls is one of those things that we don't give a second thought to in history but would be called unrealistic in a work of fiction.

[@tugatomskanimation6370]

Reality is indeed stranger than fiction.

[@coolmikeknight9933]

True i know one thing id hate to go down like that

[@ferretyluv]

It’d be called a perfect Chekhov’s gun.

[@ineednochannelyoutube2651]

@@ferretyluv It could also work as karmic justice if the king was corruptly cutting off necessary functions of state for personal reasons.

[@michaelthomas5433]

You always get overthrown when you lose your balls.

[@David-lu3dv]

That servant who put her arm in lock is a real one.

[@alexinfinite7142]

Beat me to it. What a bad ass

[@Darkgun231]

That wasn't a servant, that was his wife.

[@RedWizrobe]

@@Darkgun231 On closer inspection, you seem to be right, though their faces/hair don't took the same and are wearing different clothes. Either that's a completely different person with the initials JB, or the animator for this episode made two different illustrations for Joan of Beaufort. Either way, someone on the EC team don goofed.

[@MrTmac9k]

That's the origin of the phrase "Katy bar the door."

[@Rert]

​@RedWizzrobe The initals are incorrect. The woman that barred the door was Catherine Douglas, one of the Queens ladies in waiting.

[@scottanos9981]

What a brave and selfless lady who was willing to have her arm snapped in two just to protect her king.

[@ecurewitz]

That was one badass queen

[@nikolozgilles]

What happened to her

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@ecurewitz They drew the queen, but they said it was a servant who did it ^^'

[@ecurewitz]

@@krankarvolund7771 my bad

[@crazydawn22]

extreme hodor

[@Amadeus451]

Tennis has a surprising history of being adjacent to deaths of royalty. Anne Boleyn was watching a tennis match when she received the summons to a council meeting that informed her of her forthcoming execution, for example. Edit: typo fix

[@krankarvolund7771]

There's also a french king who died because, while going to watch a tennis match, hit his head so hard against the frame of a door, he died a few hours later ^^

[@Amadeus451]

@@krankarvolund7771 or the one who played tennis all day then started chugging cold wine ave keeled over within a few minutes. He was a Louis, but I don't remember which one.

[@thomasrinschler6783]

@@Amadeus451 Louis X. His early death and his posthumous son's death only a few days after birth started the first steps towards the Hundred Years War.

[@Oxtocoatl13]

We should either ban this sport or aggressively advocate making it mote popular, depending on one's opinion of the royalty.

[@krankarvolund7771]

@@Amadeus451 Louis X le Hutin ^^

[@louthegiantcookie]

Looking forward to this one! Scotland has such an amazing, complex history.

[@scottanos9981]

A lot of honor killings and clan factionalism that transferred to the Hatfield-McCoy feud of the Appalachian United States!

[@anttibjorklund1869]

I think this was a one-off

[@17Watman]

George RR Martin thought the same.

[@Borito120]

I was way exited when I saw this. Because when my uncle traced our family line a couple years back. William Crichton was the earliest forefathers he could find. Thank you for bringing this lesser known story to life.

[@destruct0503]

TRAITORSS

[@Kumimono]

One wonders, in which spot of the revenge cycle you are in, hiring assassins, or being vary of ones. :D

[@theuglywolf2536]

Highly doubt there's any relation to the actual Crighton family. A common mistake made among amateur familial historians is to think having the same surname means being a part of the same family. In truth, your family was likely under the servitude of the Crichton lordship, as in Scottish tradition your family name was that of your masters.

[@Frznwhrlpll]

​@@theuglywolf2536 personally that wouldn't change a single feeling I had but I'm not concerned about my direct family lineage just the time periods and where certain people may have been

[@skylarelizabeth4092]

And mine was Alexander Livingston!

[@mrartdeco]

Blocking sewers to stop losing tennis balls but losing his life instead. Wow...

[@BeastWarsFan]

Hindsight, am I right? BWF

[@vgalis]

I suppose dying is a guaranteed way to never lose another another tennis ball.

[@mumfydonut1980]

well, dead people are notorious for their inability to lose tennis balls so I'd say he won in the end

[@johnpangarakis396]

I had no idea the Red Wedding was inspired by a real event

[@jerinmathew4726]

The whole series is loosely based on many historic events

[@HenningGu]

I'd actually be surprised if inviting your enemy only to kill them didn't happen at some point in real life.

[@charles2703]

Oh yeah, George loves (loved?) putting in stuff like that. Cersei and Jamie are clearly inspired by Artemisia II and Mausolus.

[@izzad777]

Spoiler alert. Most of the horrific events that happened in ASOIAF is inspired from real events. Humans are very capable of inflicting unthinkable level of cruelty on one another and had been doing so far longer than we are able to write records about it or create tales inspired by it. The only reason humans survive as a species is because the combination of our resilience and the acts of brave, good people to ensure that humans don't effed themselves to death. The scariest thing about this is that these events will continue to happen, and we have to continue to be resilient and brave to act against it. If somehow we stopped doing it, there is no future to humanity.

[@emmettturner9452]

Pretty sure EC already did a series on War of the Roses.

[@stevejakab274]

The Saint Bartholomew's Day massacre is closer to the Red Wedding. Because, you know, it was a wedding.

[@Kenzalina_]

I know you wrote this a year ago but I completely agree!

[@Zveebo]

Love this - would be great to see you do some more Scottish history. Mary Queen of Scots is crying out for a multi-part series - one of the most crazy lives of anyone in late medieval history: queen of two countries, and mother of the king of another.

[@DieNibelungenliad]

The thing I love about the Middle Ages is that it can be as a silly as a Disney movie and as a deadly as a John Wick movie

[@VelkanKiador]

You know, being stabbed to death in the sewers because you ordered it to be clogged just got to be up there with one of the more humiliating ways to go out xP

[@kingpiye7060]

Not really?How do you even make that conclusion its just unforeseen and unexpected really.

[@LudicrousPlatypus]

I love that you are covering Scottish history. I would love to see more series about Scotland!

[@RobertJW]

The legendary patrons have been legends for so long! I appreciate their contributions immensely.

[@GideonF64.9]

If you want another real life Red Wedding story you should make a video about the Bloodbath of Stockholm. King Christian II invites the Swedish nobility to a great feast. They party for about three days, then Christian has the guests arrested, and summarily beheaded. Around 90 people in total were executed, and it set the stage for the secession of Sweden from the Kalmar Union when Gustav Vasa, whose parents had been executed, led a revolt and took the throne as Gustav I.

[@notme7728]

8:36 That pie of facts with the pinch on fiction to the smell of tales, that has to be one of the best analogies for how to describe how history is turned into the media we consume now. Absolutely amazing, love it!

[@jeremy1860]

Who needs fiction when history can give us all the drama we could ever ask for? 😅

[@francisman60]

Reality is sometimes stranger than fiction

[@ecurewitz]

Exactly!

[@khameronsmith108]

Just don't let Ridley Scott make it into a movie. He'll make the most fantastic historical story the most boring watch imaginable

[@NothingIsKnown00]

You should really do an episode on the Stockholm Blood Bath. It’s a real Game of Thrones-worthy story of battle, determination, betrayal and death.

[@MPbmfm]

Yes the Stockholm Bloodbath was way more bloody, about 100 were executed in 3 days

[@hotdogboxd]

and in Vasa's desire to avenge his father, he freed sweden from the danish yoke!

[@emilioi.valdez6680]

Speaking of Game of Thrones, I hear the Glencoe Massacre also provided inspiration for the Red Wedding.

[@ferretyluv]

That’s the one I heard about.

[@krankarvolund7771]

Except that in Glencoe, it's the guests who murdered the host ^^

[@Brandonhayhew]

The Rus princess had her quests burned alive in bathhouse

[@theawesomeman9821]

Goerge RR Martin has already admitted to being influence by this massacre on various televised interviews that can be found on KZbin.

[@lucaswatson1913]

GRRM said so himself in an interview

[@Hannibalian]

thank you for uploading this, i remember watching a documentary which included this event (it was on edinburgh castle) yet i completely forgot the name of such occurrence but now i do!

[@iansavard4489]

God I love this channel so much! Cheers to the entire team for keeping me constantly educated and entertained for nearly 7 years now!

[@Beeannie2010]

Thanks!

[@extrahistory]

Thank you so much Beth! Your support really helps the show!

[@Princess_Weekes]

As a Black Douglas this episode was thrilling xD

[@NathanS__]

I've heard George RR Martin doesn't like fan fiction. Which is ironic because he writes historical fan fictions.

[@ferretyluv]

Not really. He does more “ripped from the headlines.” No more fan fiction than Law and Order.

[@samrizzardi2213]

One interesting bit of Scottish lore you could cover, simply because there are so many conflicting accounts, regards the extinction of wolves in Great Britain. We know the last one was killed in Scotland, but the time and place is murky and subject to folklore.

[@johnstanczyk4030]

Oh man, you guys make me want a series on the Interregna from Margaret the Maid to Robert the Bruce so bad.

[@torylva]

Another of these were the Swedish 14th century "Håtuna Games" between the three brothers Birger, Erik, and Valdemar Birger was crowned king and due to political games forced out his brothers from court and forbad them to rejoin unless he invited them, also forbidding them from doing their own foreign affairs except through the king. This culimated in a civil war that went nowhere and sputtered out in 1306. Still, Erik and Valdemar plotted revenge for their treatment and on 26th of september when Birger held his wedding feast in Håtuna, the two brothers armed themselves and their men in secret, taking their brother captive and planning to kill his infant son that a loyal knight (Actually a swedish equivalent of a courtier, but that is not important) had whisked away with to denmark. Agreeing to share the power with his brothers, Birger was kept prisoner even after the promise. Erik now controlled Sweden by having the largest realm, but that only lasted until the Danish king who had taken in Birger's son attacked and plundered around in Erik's realm. This lead to the retaliation of Erik and Valdemar against Scania, plundering it in turn with mercenaries from germany. Calling for aid, the danish king called the norwegian king who arrived and helped defeat the two brothers, who as a condition of the peace, let Birger go and become king again. This lead to an uneasy peace between the three brothers that lasted for ten years, until 1317, Birger once again called for a feast and invited his two brothers in what is now called "Nyköping's Feast" where he showed that he had forgiven civil war that had caused such strife between them. As the night went on, he finally declared "I have forgiven the war, but I never forgot the Håtuna Games!" and the guards stormed the hall to arrest the two brothers. He kept them locked up in the dungeon, gloating over his final victory. There they died on his orders, but in retaliation, the loyal knights of Erik and Valdemar stormed the keep and forced Birger to flee Sweden, but his son was taken captive. In exile, he died 1321, just after the news came that his son had been executed. And so, Magnus VII, son of Erik, took the throne. And so ended the Håtuna Games. Hope you ended this overly long post about a fascinating event that is often overlooked!

[@MerkhVision]

Very interesting, thanks for explaining!

[@_AutumnLion]

wow, I never heard this story before despite living in Scotland all my life. Perhaps someday, I'll spend more time looking into more history of my homeland rather than the more English related history I was taught growing up

[@GabrielForth]

Check out @ScotlandHistoryTours, Bruce's videos are well put together, amusing and informative. They also last between 15 - 25 minutes so are bitesize.

[@edukid1984]

That's the point of your Westminster-sanctioned history lessons in schools. To reinforce the "British" identity (with England being the dominant force obviously) to keep the union intact and weed out separatist ideas from a young age.

[@jamiesimms7084]

​@@edukid1984I don't think this has anything to do with the Scottish independence party

[@georgewright3949]

St Barthomlews day massacre also has the resemblance of being at an actual wedding

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Incredible content as always! Keep it up guys!

[@TheMysteryman615]

Hi, good video, can you please do the Texan revolution?

[@christophertownsend3820]

SATURDAY EXTRA HISTORY!! Great topic. Thanks EH for another great video.

[@thetruerift]

Marvelous stuff, as always!

[@lucaswallace7476]

8:20 *"TWENTY-SIX STAB WOUNDS. YOU DIDNT WANT TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE, HUH?!"*

[@Packless1]

...it was a tragic accident...when he cleaned his dagger, it unfortunately set off... ☠☠☠ ...26 times...? ...in his BACK...??? 😮🤔😨 ...as i said...a very tragic accident...!!! 😉😱😉😱😉😱😉

[@DamonNomad82]

"It was an alphabet stabbing! I just wanted to make sure every letter from A to Z was represented!"

[@wlinden]

The. There was the “Nykoping Banquet” of 1317, when King Birger of Sweden starved his brothers to death in revenge for the HATUNALEKEN of 1306 (which translates best as “fun and games at Hatuna”).

[@theodoretekkers]

This was a really good and interesting story. I loved the animation!

[@ghw7192]

I read that as The Real Bed Wetting and was amused.

[@TheSci-fiAnarchist42]

*Rains of Castamere intensifies*

[@samrevlej9331]

Great job, guys! Scottish history is always interesting!

[@christiancanty2036]

I always felt like the Red Wedding was more based off of the Bloodfeast of Roskilde, from danish history

[@Megaspartan23]

The Glencoe massacre was another inspiration for the Red Wedding.

[@FederationofUrsa]

Great Video! The art styles differ by artist. That makes this channel unique. And the stories are chosen by your patreons. Keep the work up!

[@jdzencelowcz]

The " Murder Castle" actually looks rather lovely in the clear daylight, if still a bit imposing.

[@ScilentFox1220]

Wow. This also felt like inspiration for the betrayal of Leto Atredes in Dune.

[@shambhav9534]

Why though? What resemblance do you see?

[@vimenavenkatesan1286]

Another amazing video from you guys!

[@sterlingnilssen5812]

Yay! Another extra history video😊 you gotta love the enthusiasm of this awesome narrator

[@ReaverLordTonus]

The Glencoe Massacre: "what am I, a joke to you?"

[@KesselRunner606]

Loved this one, but a teeeeny tiny nitpick. As an Edunburgher born and bred, it's pronounced Edin-Bu-RUh (as in, rUn or rUg). Americans get really weird looks from us when they call it Edinburrow. It'd be like us coming over and saying, "I've always dreamed of coming to Nee Yoorch."

[@mystecoregames]

That and calling Glasgow, Glass Cow, even once corrected.

[@triptothemoon8171]

Never let facts get in the way of a good story

[@mesektet5776]

I am reminded of everything on Gargoyles that wasn't about NY or fairies. Also basically the entire plot of Final Fantasy Tactics, but that's historical back-stabbing for you.

[@ShardNetwork]

Oh yeah, plenty of stuff that led to the more fantastic parts stemmed from people being hungry for power or land. And a LOT of betrayal. If the Castle Wyvern clan woke up in an empty castle like Demona wanted, there's a slim chance they wouldn't have started the chain of events leading them to New York.

[@JOGA_Wills]

Wow what a heinous act to kill 2 young men like that with such treachery.

[@orbemsolis]

The dashed outline of the arm was a good gag.

[@dishevelleddev]

The dedication you must feel as a servant to let your arm get painfully snapped to defend your master.

[@starguy321]

Remember hearing from a Scottish friend that she once met a Crichton. All he had to say was that he was ‘one of those Crichtons’ and everyone in the room knew exactly what he meant.

[@HistoryHype1]

Thank you for sharing such a high-quality video. I can tell that you put a lot of thought and care into making it. Keep up the excellent work!

[@luckes0638]

You guys should do a series about gustavus adolphus I always wanted to know more about him

[@Allahu_Akbar_the_one]

Al-Mamun’s assassination was also similar a good inspiration for Game Of Throne’s Red Weddding.

[@Onlyfacts_10]

Great videos as usual ❤️

[@Bunchovcolors1308]

There was actually a very similar event to the red wedding that (supposedly) happened in Danmark. The Blood feast at Roskilde

[@zachtaylor8222]

this is similar to what the Campbells did to the MacDonalds as well, except that the Campbells were the guests.

[@arthegor]

Actually there was a red wedding before this in Greece in the Successor State of the Byzantine Empire called Epirus (from the thumbnail click). Theodore Doukas and ambitious leader poised to restore the Eastern Roman Empire after the 4th Crusade took the throne of Epirus and he lured Peter of Courenay (if i recall he was the Latin Emperor) with offers of Food and Wine as well as support for the 5th crusade. Once the Latins let their guard down they were captured or massacred. He was excommunicated afterwards by the Pope as the Despotate leaders faked their conversion to Roman Catholicism as only a political solution. He faked his apologies to the Pope and started going campaign to restore the Empire by capturing what remains of the now almost dead body of the Crusader State of Thessaloniki which made the Pope angry yet again and excommunicated him again. Fun part he did not cared also he switched back to Orthodox Christanity back again once he thought this charade went far enough.

[@imperialguardsman8088]

“And who are you the proud lord said…”

[@mestre12]

I hope you guys, one day, do a series on the War of the Roses

[@heriyapino7363]

2:53 Robert the Bruce playing chess with England.

[@Hrafnskald]

3:49 High perched fortress = perfect murder spot, ah I love cat logic :). Great story, thanks for sharing this.

[@allaniadall9686]

"There have been many tales. Tainted by truth. Twisted by time. Some choose to forget, yet it still weaves webs in their minds." Blackmore's Night. The Hanging Tree.

[@HailedTooth1175]

The dude went straight to tearing up the floor rather than just break the floor window

[@michaelrae9599]

Also look into the Glencoe massacre, which was supposedly the inspiration of the Red Wedding in GOT.

[@thecreativecontessa]

Scottish history is so wonderfully colorful!😅

[@briankelly1240]

Now I need a history on tennis balls.

[@vojtechhykys1466]

'Damn it, I knew I should have listened to my dad and do fencing instead!'

[@johnstuart1338]

Holy cow. I’m RELATED to these Stuarts and had no idea about how incredibly complex it all was.

[@VanatruFreyr]

Are you really related or are you an American with the same name claiming royal heritage? Because in reality the Stewart family died out with Queen Anne in 1714.

[@SirKanti1]

Why have you never done an episode about Wales?

[@hallamhal]

An episode about Owain Glyndwr would be amazing

[@aidantheforgeroflegends6348]

This is one of the historical stories that inspired the red wedding from game of thrones

[@buia499]

He said that in the beginning of the video

[@userthomash]

Scottish history is secretly so interesting like skara brae

[@lordedmundblackadder9321]

“You, my friend, have come to the right place - SCOTLAND”

[@Abraxium]

I suggest you look into The Nyköping Banquet for a similar drama-esque style historical event of intrigue

[@alexandersturnn4530]

Okay, but what happened to the Chancellor? Did he get away with his part in the murders, or did Karma catch up to him?

[@woodlandcreature8857]

The Crichtons continued to remain influential in Scotland well into the mid 16th century, when they were outshined by other families like the Hamiltons and Gordons

[@alexandersturnn4530]

@@woodlandcreature8857 I see. Thanks.

[@AnimeMusic1999]

LMAO not me watching this while eating Factor for lunch 😂

[@TheCreepypro]

who needs fiction when the truth is often stranger than fiction and history so much more interesting

[@tauIrrydah]

Don't forget the bulls head mounted in the Atreides dining hall.

[@tysonaries7649]

Definitely the inspiration for the Red Wedding

[@DieNibelungenliad]

I wonder if there will be an Extra Fantasy History someday in the future that will have a series for different stories such as Game of Thrones, Lord of The Rings, and Wheel of Time

[@jackiec498]

Good name for a new food network show staring Al Roker doing restaurant reviews...

[@foulplayer7812]

Fun Fact: According to legend, right before their execution, Willam Douglas asked the executioner to kill his little brother David first out of mercy so that the younger sibling wouldn't have to endure the horror and despair of watching his older brother die first. And the executioner honored the young lord's last request.

[@slasher1563]

Killing William Douglas was evil, just as evil as the deed it was getting revenge for. It's a shame what an ignorant and vile people we are, despite our good intentions

[@Didntwanttomakeauser]

Did anyone else get confused thinking this was Jimmy 1 of England and 6 of Scotland?

[@Menno_3]

Good video, could you do the 80 years war?

[@maninredhelm]

How absolutely barbaric. Imagine being a king and re-using tennis balls dipped in sewage instead of just writing them off and buying new ones. Are we certain it wasn't his former tennis partners who orchestrated his murder?

[@v.emiltheii-nd.8094]

Vlad the Impaler: How adorable!

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

Olga of Kiev: I Know, Its so sweet.

[@Ysumguy]

When I saw this episode (red wedding) on Game of Thrones.... I knew I heard of something like this before. LOL.

[@Texanprime]

Please do Texas revolution please extra history

[@enriconassetti4946]

Yes i would also like that

[@in5linesofcodeorless552]

Could you do about the chartists And could you cite your scoured NOT because I need them for alevel history course work Totally

[@postapocalypticnewsradio]

PANR has tuned in. How's everyone holding up?

[@Saint_Sin]

Ooft. Edinburgh isnt a hard one dude. Its Edin-burr-uh not Edin-burrow for future heads up. Also deid is not death. Deid = dead. Past tense. So its more, once they have been put to death they are then deid. While you have said "They have been put to dead". If you need someoe to run this stuff by im happy to help. Am native.

[@iainthistle3103]

26 STAB WOUNDS!!!! DIDN’T WANNA LEAVE HIM A CHANCE, HUH??!!!!

[@plasmacannon1198]

Wasn’t the red wedding more reminiscent of the Stockholm bloodbath by the Danes?

[@SnekChrmr]

Would love to see you guys do a series on Napoleon or on the American revolution

[@mxsdrago]

> named william crichton > killed two young boys > did so at a party with food > the video puts him in purple