Extreme Pressure - Scan vs. SnOw G3 - TvP

[@Xcenttric]

It is so awesome that we can have such a beautiful series in a simple sponsored match without any starleague!

[@atanasangelov4943]

Artosis man, thank you for the great series!

[@whopperlu]

Scan made a mistake attacking bottom left and going in between the mass gateway production. Attacking bottom mid from the right side would've been better. Then maybe that would have bought him time to prepare for carriers. Anyways, good series. Always love Terran games

[@sergeyk9060]

Scan made a mistake playing as terran. The second mistake is playing vs protoss.

[@atanasangelov4943]

Attacking down wasn't a mistake. It's just these storms crushed the first push. Snow killed like 10 tanks and 8 gols with storms only. If he had these 10 tanks on top of protoss production he couls have held the double gas expo and make gols for days.

[@RaVNeFLoK]

I agree. I was saying to myself if he attacks middle left and builds the next base upper left behind the attack - he will likely loses to carriers in the late game but there’s a chance to win. if he attacks bottom right he will likely loose the ground battle before carriers even arrive and that’s it. He was surrounded by production facilities with that longer attack path. Though if he by some miracle actually took the bottom right base down and all the gates beside it - we might have seen a complete upheaval of the game. The odds where just not good attacking so far away from your Terran territory and you have to sacrifice the protection of your new upper right expo. So yeah attacking the middle left base and that way also protect terrans newest expo at the upper left is likely the most correct play here. Gg’s though. Both are amazing players and we do have all the vision and intel of the map and armies and they don’t. It’s easy playing an armchair general then lol

[@RaVNeFLoK]

@Joke Franic he was never on top of it. But he has initiative after he takes Toss left bases and tries to expand top left himself- he has a window there and the choice there on where to continue the pressure. I believe he should deploy siege and immediately try to push from his top left new expo into Protoss middle left position. Hugging the left edge of the map so as to avoid getting his army surrounded. That way his top left expo is still protected by his main siege army while he pushes into the next Protoss expo. Instead scan went for the gamble and went across the map to pressure Protoss southern expo and production facilities there. This made him loose his now unprotected expo top left before it got finished and his army position was now in the middle completely surrounded by enemy production facilities. So he eventually lost his army and the window closed. Gg. Perhaps he overestimated his position I don’t know. Anyway as I said it’s always easier for me to look at the entire revealed map and pretend like I would had done anything differently. I’m not trying to presume I would had played better obviously - its just my impressions on what the better attack path seemed to be. I think he would had still lost eventually but it would had taken longer and would not be as certain a result.

[@josefkarel1876]

this channel is my guilty pleasure

[@dbufi]

I know it’s snow…but scan was extremely frustrating to watch in this game…the amount of patience just for that push at the end…literally waited until the moment all those storms were ready and then just clump-sieged all his tanks up directly in between all of the gate production…Such bad decision-making that snow basically didn’t even need his 2/2 carriers to defend the push

[@LuckyStilet1]

Carriers in production and more probs and protoss defand 3 2 MMB ax terran? Feels bad

[@llavero5]

The storms were already 10 minutes before that push

[@xiaominsong]

Snow is just at a different level, scan just can NOT move out.

[@houndofzeus]

This map is structurally tough for Terran. They have to expand towards top left to take their third and fourth, and there’s a huge amount of open space to defend. That means Protoss gets to take the two bottom right bases and defend them with merely a pylon wall and cannons

[@8684LYFE]

Spoilers - - - - Jarriers have arrived

[@13BlueShaDows2]

THANK YOU !!!

[@XtReMz98]

Sn0w: ‘’Carriers have arrived.’’ Scan: ‘’gg.’’ Scan has left the game.

[@grouchomcgrouch4150]

Thanks for the uploads Arty and thank you Scan for standing tall against a legend! You gotta love all the backseat gamers in the comments criticizing a player they can't even come close to beating as he squares up against one of the greatest ever LMAO let's see your replays

[@7thquark309]

When you have so much economy that you can fake Carriers until you actually make them.

[@agemanzi7792]

Tough game, snow really just knows how to abuse the growth potential of toss. I would love to see him in finals vs Larva. S13 hopefully

[@staarfajter922]

OMG these storms. Make my feelings hurt bad!

[@BaconHer0]

Why are the sides of the video cut off?

[@sYnchr0_]

Terrans in general need to stop clumping their tanks. Take a chapter out of the Zerg, Lurker book and spread those boys apart. It's basically suicide against storms/reavers and zealot drops, yet there they are, always clumping their tanks. If Zerg clumped their Lurkers like that, they'd get crushed too. Edit: And to add to this, why are Terrans so treeified of leaving Tanks unsieged in certain positions? They still have great range and damage and seem so underutilised in that way.

[@8684LYFE]

As someone who watches Scan's stream quite a bit - it's actually something he normally does on the ladder (spreading/unclumping tanks, leaving some unsiege in anticipation of zealot bombs). I think he knows he needs to do that, but he doesn't have the excess APM and inputs to, when you're dealing with equally skilled opponent like Sn0w. Common mistakes happen because your mechanic capabilities/actions are taxed by trying to keep up. An equally strong player simply forces you to devote a certain amount of reactions to dealing with their moves. I.e. they can engage you on multiple fronts effectively (i.e. not a-moving, but actually properly fighting), or even threaten areas of the map with constant repositioning. E.g. against his the non-pros he normally stomps on ladder, Scan is like Quicksilver from the X-men movies. Time moves slowly for him and he can take that time to siege/unsiege/spread tanks as needed since he's acting relatively much faster. Against an opponent like Sn0w who moves at the same "superspeed" he does, he doesn't have time for that. Any time he spends spreading out siege tanks is time not spent keeping up with macro and saving multiple SCVs from Reaver Scarabs.

[@-Nick-T]

gg sir scan!! epic series.

[@rufia75]

He could post his rines all around the edges to act like mobile turrets, just inside his base. To completely prevent reaver drops from getting in. I mean, at this point why not, if they are entirely useless in the army because of those same reaver shuttles.

[@bahneetza2169]

scan had to do little things and have faith to attack the bottom right with his army that was stationed in the middle closerr to his base. and he had to take it slower on that push through and gone for the gateways as well. but really it was 5 mins in with that gate lol.......

[@obstinatejack]

that push by scan could of gone a lot better, like spread out more on the edge of cliff, and shell down on those gates first, and baiting snow to commit. but instead, scan pushed too quickly, and without enough vulture support

[@Halu_Miodis]

I dont much about sc1 matches, what are those lurker eggs for?

[@RichardJamesMendoza]

artifical wall-in added by mapmakers. it's not a total guarantee for a full wall though. it can be destroyed later in the game if you need some mobility.

[@rufia75]

21:39 goon with 17 kills O_O did it kill a lot of the marines and medics scan built lol

[@bosschoruspedalunboxing6679]

Potentially a stupid question, but, why not tech switch back into marine medic as Scan when the carriers come out?

[@xYiazmatx]

Month late, but toss still has 10+ gateways. Even if producing marine/medic magically deleted all of the carriers, you would get steamrolled by gateway units (the storm that destroyed his mech would be even more potent against bio). The answer was really just "you can't let protoss mine from 6 bases that long, uncontested".

[@bosschoruspedalunboxing6679]

@@xYiazmatx Good point, thanks

[@Hatchumosc1]

If you go bio vs shuttle reaver without attacking why not get lockdown?

[@ATOQ777]

Big brain

[@PokettoMusic]

damn snow is strong

[@Endelite]

0:55 to around 1:00 Maybe just dancing 'cause he has the APM to do so...doesn't have anything else pressing to do [suppressed, internal voiced "Disgusting, dirty protoss"].

[@LuckyStilet1]

Guess Scan could go marine drop or two. And if dont kill something at least threat and put 3d mean while

[@kahahabahaha]

the way scan executed that push at the 20ish minute mark seemed uncharacteristically wasteful. I think A moving with siege tanks worked up to a point, but he needed to plant and spread his tanks on that position, so he could kill those gates.

[@andrewkamoha4666]

IMHO, Scan gave up to soon ...

[@Zyzyx442]

Scan

[@ernestwest6861]

I didn't like the second gate.

[@2024Throwaway]

Im looking for Snow videos and found this video on this channel. But I find Artosis's cast so annoying and he talks WAY too much lol. Bye

[@mysticbigmac8782]

Scan made so many mistakes this game, the main push should've been to kill the gates and expo, instead a move straight into the middle of flanking ground. Also deliberately letting the marines medics die to "free up supply" was a bad move, they'd be much more useful on highground delaying the expo than a few tanks or vultures

[@Staint12]

This is why Snow is a top ASL pro gamer and Scan not.

[@raptorsan85]

storm sucks