'Extremely toxic': Lori Vallow’s ex-best friend breaks her silence | CUOMO

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Lori Vallow’s ex-best friend, April Raymond, who testified in the trial against the convicted murderer, joins NewsNation's "CUOMO" for an exclusive interview, breaking her silence for the first time since the trial.
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@brendaredmond4678
@brendaredmond4678 Жыл бұрын
One of the things that stands out to me is in an interview with Lori's cousin Megan. She said when they were teenagers, they were riding in a car with Lori's boyfriend at the wheel, he deliberately hit a cat. Megan was shocked and upset Lori on the other hand thought it was funny... That is who she is. She has been this way her whole life.
@greenfairy4894
@greenfairy4894 Жыл бұрын
I believe both her and Chad were born psychopaths. I think she had murdered before ever meeting Chad. Neither even realized that red flags would go up when they announced their engagement within 10 days of Tammy’s death. They were obviously both convinced their stellar reputations in the community would see them through all of this. It blows my mind
@peachesmcgee4795
@peachesmcgee4795 Жыл бұрын
From that interview,it seems likely the family conspired to kill Lori's sister Stacey as well.They've been rotten for years before she met Daybell.
@julietigermoon9572
@julietigermoon9572 Жыл бұрын
Yes that was a good interview. Sick laughing about running over a cat .Always not a nice person
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 Жыл бұрын
I put that in the same category as Lauren Boebert, not only NOT being angry at her then-boyfriend for exposing himself to teenage girls at a bowling alley when they themselves were older, not only did she NOT try to stop him, not only did she NOT disapprove~ SHE EGGED HIM ON AND SOME REPORTS HAVE SAID THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY HER IDEA. And then like Lori, she actually married the despicable predator. Granted while still being pro violence, classless, unintelligent* rich white trash, the Boeberts haven't killed anyone (that we are aware of in any event), Lauren was driving under the influence and totaled an ATV, leaving her injured and bleeding sister-in-law, Lauren's youngest son, and a puppy, trapped in the vehicle while she squeezed herself out and left the scene of an accident, over the protests of her injured family members, Lauren did what she felt she had to do~after all she had already been elected. To Congress. That's right, the one in the United States, the one in Washington DC Smh * And as if just that wasn't enough, Lauren, after flunking out of high school, took the GED and then flunked IT~not once, not twice, not three times.... This woman was actually elected to congress,~but not yet sworn in WITHOUT HAVING GOTTEN THE RESULTS OF HER FOURTH GED EXAM. So Colorado elected to congress, a woman who had not yet graduated from high school. FROM HIGH SCHOOL.. SHE WAS SWORN IN TO THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND SWORE AN OATH TO UPHOLD, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.... Wait for it... As a high school flunky and dropout.... And soon-to-be a divorcee and 36 year old GRANDMOTHER. We sure have some quality people here in America 😑
@rayc9899
@rayc9899 Жыл бұрын
She have to be toxic and fuck up all her life. Married for many times is always a RED FLAG and should be for everybody, men and women.
@kaybrown4010
@kaybrown4010 Жыл бұрын
When she was interviewed as a young beauty queen, Lori herself said, “Basically, I’m a ticking time bomb!” Prophetic.
@guccimain89
@guccimain89 Жыл бұрын
Lol. Yeah in that case I guess she actually was a prophet. Kind of a “self fulfilling prophecy” prophet.
@heleneocleary5888
@heleneocleary5888 Жыл бұрын
Very witty!
@carolmilatz5648
@carolmilatz5648 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was. She was a ticking time bomb and exploded when she met Chad.
@barbq1976
@barbq1976 Жыл бұрын
the name she has now is "daybell". It's sad that people attach the name of that Good man - Charles Vallow to her.
@judytullos9889
@judytullos9889 Жыл бұрын
In decades to come people may come across her name along with the victims. I actually think of her legitimately as Lori Cox( ?) Ryan Vallow Daybell. It will then appear along side the names of Charles Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Joshua Vallow, and Tammi Daybell. Maybe some day someone will find some evidence tying her in to Joe Ryan’s murder. She was recorded saying she wanted him dead, killed. He had two sons that did not get closure- didn’t Lori bulldoze her way into getting him cremated, after being divorced and remarried?. (Civil suit, hmm) She was near the apartment, even inside, upon the LE being called( some ruse). If Alex Cox left any traceable phone communications, we may still solve some unknowns. He appeared healthy as I appear healthy. Zulema may realize she was manipulated into marriage, to a g@y man. The guilt/confusion/regret he must have felt when he had to look at himself in the (bathroom) mirror. Was there insurance on Zulema after they married? Her son? Alex?
@SolitaryCLeste-ez8nt
@SolitaryCLeste-ez8nt Жыл бұрын
If majority ruled, she'd be Lori Cox. Not only does she deserve to have the name of the family that made her & taint that already tainted name. I also feel soooo strongly against murderers & victims keeping the spouses names, regardless of legal matters. You take my life? Take your name, too. I take your life, I don't get to keep your name & frankly shouldn't want it, right? She's a Cox, & in more ways than 1 😏
@Kim-wm9fx
@Kim-wm9fx Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. She murdered the 2 Vallow's in her immediate family. She should be called Lori Daybell.
@christinalady7924
@christinalady7924 Жыл бұрын
Becoming a grandmother is not toxic. It's one of the greatest human blessings possible.
@Ronin4614
@Ronin4614 Жыл бұрын
Looking at and listening to Chad Daybell, I can not understand how he found anyone to follow him. Chad seem to be the least compelling figure I have ever seen. I hope the Lori case keeps Chad up at night & troubling all day.
@nancylong3392
@nancylong3392 Жыл бұрын
Dolt or Dollard or both
@Rain-yh9ws
@Rain-yh9ws Жыл бұрын
As someone stuck in Idaho these Mormon people are just strange! From what I have seen it doesn't surprise me at all.
@GeneralGrievousCIS
@GeneralGrievousCIS Жыл бұрын
​ @Rain I'm a member of thr church, though not from Idaho (or anywhere in the US). Chad and Lori disgust me and their beliefs are totally, obviously, blasphemous and opposed to actual doctrine. I have no clue how so many people bought into their delusions. I will agree, though, that I've met my share of weird members. Like any church, or group, we've got our share of wackos and jerks. Some people unfortunately just kind of decide their individual interpretation of things is gospel and run with it to the extreme :/
@kathduncan9618
@kathduncan9618 Жыл бұрын
SAME. If Dunce was a human. Let alone Monotone, Over-rated, Liar and Ego Run Amok.
@maryjobarrios6238
@maryjobarrios6238 Жыл бұрын
@@GeneralGrievousCISI have to agree with you! My daughters mother in law is a Mormon in Texas. She is a lovely lady, attorney, great mom and grandmother. Once I met her I was drawn to her immediately.
@leahr5602
@leahr5602 Жыл бұрын
The combination of all 3 were toxic...how is becoming a grandmother toxic? Becoming a grandmother was one of the happiest moments of my entire life.
@kaybrown4010
@kaybrown4010 Жыл бұрын
I guess it’s toxic if you’re vain and just can’t stand the fact that you’re getting older and losing your good looks. But I love being a grandma! I’m very blessed indeed.
@leahr5602
@leahr5602 Жыл бұрын
@@kaybrown4010 that is true. Personally I don't understand that way of thinking, I'll take old any day as long as I keep getting to be grandma! It just shows how selfish Lori truly is.
@aircastles1013
@aircastles1013 Жыл бұрын
@@kaybrown4010 You got it in one. I have seen this before, it’s pure vanity.
@TheAlj35
@TheAlj35 Жыл бұрын
Lori changed when Colby met his wife. Well, she changed towards him bc she wasn't the woman in the center of his universe anymore. Narcissists don't see their children as autonomous, Narcissists see their children as their property and their only purpose is to reflect all their wonderful qualities they admire in themselves. "Little mirrors" I've heard it described as in my recovery. Children are used for supply of attention and that is it. You're not allowed to have your own feelings, wants, and desires when you have a narcissistic parent.
@ETBlair
@ETBlair 3 ай бұрын
It might have made her feel old. She’s quite narcissistic.
@debbiehersko6680
@debbiehersko6680 Жыл бұрын
Never has she been “ good” , look what she did to Tylee & Joe Ryan’s relationship … all for money. Evil evil person
@georgiaamanatides4207
@georgiaamanatides4207 Жыл бұрын
Lori got both Tylee and Colby to falsely accuse Joe Ryan. To this day Colby has never recanted the lie.
@karlamarcellus4941
@karlamarcellus4941 Жыл бұрын
@@georgiaamanatides4207 I believe this to be true as well. Hidden True Crime (podcast) said there was evidence that Lori provided to the court, but knowing Lori, I'm sure she fabricated the evidence.
@greenfairy4894
@greenfairy4894 Жыл бұрын
@@georgiaamanatides4207 No he hasn’t but I also think Lori planted false memories
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! A good mother does not kill her own kids! Lori was evil long before she ever met Chad! Because IMO SHE KILLED JOSEPH !
@georgiaamanatides4207
@georgiaamanatides4207 Жыл бұрын
@@greenfairy4894 I gotta agree with you on that. I do find Colby is a grifter like the rest of the Cox family. I don't find him likeable nor sympathetic.
@GiGiCherry877
@GiGiCherry877 Жыл бұрын
This poor woman ……. Part of Lori Vallows collateral damage …. I really feel for her and ALL of the victims ….. 😢✨💜
@ACB2K
@ACB2K Жыл бұрын
Poor woman, what? They were all the same, birds of a feather. Y'all get conned over and over again.
@karlamarcellus4941
@karlamarcellus4941 Жыл бұрын
@@ACB2K Not April. April stopped being friends with Lori once Lori went back to Texas to see Charles. April was never part of the cult.
@shewill8618
@shewill8618 Жыл бұрын
She is torn up! How many are wishing they would have fought double time to bring them to light. Made Tougher for the moving around so much. Would they have been heard? Others tried. Bless her...May she find some eventual peace. Tormenting herself. And angry. Obvious she is feeling, questioning a myriad of emotions/thoughts.💔
@greenfairy4894
@greenfairy4894 Жыл бұрын
@@ACB2K April was not a part of their group. So yes, Poor April has been through a lot and she looks worn down and is also a victim of this situation
@maandren
@maandren Жыл бұрын
​@@ACB2K I think you might be mistaking this woman for Melani or one of the others who were actually participating members of Lori and Chad's following. The woman speaking in this video is just an old friend of Lori's from before she met Chad.
@Goldenfeather77
@Goldenfeather77 Жыл бұрын
As a mom that lost a daughter, this is absolutely the most heartbreaking thing to go through. It is senseless to think a parent could do this.
@khm2128
@khm2128 Жыл бұрын
@Goldenfeather77 💙🙏💙 💕💙🙏💙
@carolmilatz5648
@carolmilatz5648 Жыл бұрын
I lost a son and a daughter. There is nothing worse, but, I have a strong faith that I will be with them again. and spend eternity with them under much better conditions than we are living in now. I don't know what she was thinking, but, Dr. John thought that she saw that the children were suffering while inhabited by evil spirits and saw their deaths as a relief from their suffering.
@Goldenfeather77
@Goldenfeather77 Жыл бұрын
@@khm2128 Thank you for being so kind.
@minniemaklingham4255
@minniemaklingham4255 Жыл бұрын
Justice for little JJ and beautiful Tylee 🙏
@eden_aumakua
@eden_aumakua Жыл бұрын
And TAMMY. Also for Charles and God-knows-how-many-others.
@wkjeom
@wkjeom Жыл бұрын
​@@eden_aumakua-- Joe Ryan was victimized by Lori too. Probably a poison that killed him over time the same as Alex, her brother. Her family allegedly murdered the oldest sister, Stacy, too. Very strange happenings around the death of Stacy as told by her cousin M. Can't quite remember her cousin's name.
@nursejones2
@nursejones2 Жыл бұрын
@@wkjeom I think it’s Meghan
@barbh1
@barbh1 Жыл бұрын
Chad's got a good lawyer. I hope the prosecutors are better.
@harley6222
@harley6222 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even know Prior but by the bit I’ve seen, I’ve been saying this since the beginning, he’s a shark! Yes Mam I Hope we get to see him in action.
@HeatherRose2023
@HeatherRose2023 Жыл бұрын
Chad’s lawyer is not that good. He has a history of assault himself. The prosecution will be even better because they have done it once already.
@y2ksurvivor
@y2ksurvivor Жыл бұрын
He is definitely going to put on a vigorous defense, but only time will tell whether he's good.
@tonyabrown39
@tonyabrown39 Жыл бұрын
There is not anything i like about John Prior
@margaretlumley1648
@margaretlumley1648 Жыл бұрын
​@@tonyabrown39 Agreed. People keep praising him; but here he is, defending these horrendous felons
@HeatherRose2023
@HeatherRose2023 Жыл бұрын
Ex Best Friend? I thought Melanie Gibb was Lori’s ExBF.
@kingoreo3642
@kingoreo3642 Жыл бұрын
Chad can’t blame Lori when the kids were buried in his yard.
@helenazalom4301
@helenazalom4301 Жыл бұрын
Chad Daybell doesn’t strike me as being nearly dynamic enough to turn a mother on her own children. Lori had to have it in her. It’s instinct to save your children, and she didn’t have it. Those kids, Tammy, and Charles were all failed. By her “best friends” like Melanie Gibb (who should be charged), her family, LE that ignored Charles’ warnings and barely investigated his death, and all the others that knew of their “zombie” beliefs.
@olgatrilogymartin3143
@olgatrilogymartin3143 Жыл бұрын
What makes me mad they were playing with gods righteous word What happened to the first commandment **tho shall not KILL !!!!
@begabrielanunez7326
@begabrielanunez7326 Жыл бұрын
An interview that brought sense of this tragedy: How couldn’t any of the family ask for the tenence of these children? Her father. People very close to her knew she was becoming this aggressive version of herself via a cult --:)
@shewill8618
@shewill8618 Жыл бұрын
Her brother Adam and his son Zach tried...along with Charles. On Chads end, his SIL Heather also was trying to warn and get assistance. Just a darn shame! So many went to the church for help. She played them just like Chad played them. Together, their secret selves (sick & twisted) blossomed.
@colleenscottcarmello5103
@colleenscottcarmello5103 Жыл бұрын
@@shewill8618 Zach was actually living with Lori during all this and called his dad to come get him out of there bc he was scared for his life.. eventually, Adam also became her target and Adam fled with Zach to safety, but by then Lori had the whole family against them. Her true colors showing. evil to the core.
@begabrielanunez7326
@begabrielanunez7326 Жыл бұрын
@@shewill8618 “Tried is not enough” I had one friend caught by one of this cults it was 1994, a different country. No children in the middle. My father was against me going there alone. He was in Houston and beg me to get out of it. I went to bring her home. They started following me. I pretended to enter the cult. I also pretended with her at first ( my friends since we were 5 years old ) otherwise would have left me apart. The family she lived with was her sister, his brother in law put both in. Took all the money she earned at a 5⭐️ HOTEL. She is intellectually brilliant but emotionally not. Every single day I left a word, a song, name, moment of she was and inside herself started to come out her really Persona. Not easy lo leave al all. They have taken her passports. My father solved it and when both back. Told me: “Never met a woman like you in my entire life . Now go and get that degree! I always thanked the company I was working at (AIG) for letting me go that time and bring her SAFE.--:) It was very risky - I was 24 years old. I just did not try . I brought her with me home, Today married to a great guy - two amazing boys. If instead of an adult had been the children, nobody would have stopped me taking with me her mother who called me desperate every single day to take them from that madness 1989 Children ‘s Right but it TAKES COMPROMISE, LOVE and mainly COURAGE to do so. HER FATHER and GRANDFATHER of the CHILDREN Knew she was LOST and THEY WERE IN DANGER . “TRY “ is not enough. EVEN MORE if CHILDREN involved--:)
@rosysky02inphoenix11
@rosysky02inphoenix11 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how these friends saw that Lori was acting and saying weird things, and still were associated with her ??? I think they liked getting caught up in the drama. The only thing I’m wondering is when is the niece Melanie getting arrested she had to be involved in the attempted murder of her ex Brandon.
@lesliekupchanko5001
@lesliekupchanko5001 Жыл бұрын
They all had an immature outlook. Attention seeking.
@karenbanks2733
@karenbanks2733 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the turquoise bikini she's wearing there with Chad is the same bikini or( at least VERY similar color and all) of the turquoise bikini she was wearing in the Mrs Texas pageant! I wonder only because I have felt from the start that Lori was trying to hang on to her youth! And the state of mind on something so other wise irrelevant is also telling and offers a glimpse into the arrogant self serving evil being Lori is!.. and now a retrial? Because she didn't get her way! Seems like Lori has always had a decent husband, definitely Charles vallow was! She's seemed to have had financial stability, beautiful children and looks and a beautiful voice, and also a new grandchild I believe, one might think Lori was having a midlife crisis.. however her lies and actions and Stone cold emptiness and unremorseful, heartless actions make me believe in my heart she would have killed again! And if she's ever free to Walk amongst us in the Free world she will kill again,no man or anyone she loses interest in or has something she wants is never gonna be safe around Lori! IMHO only of course
@jao62223
@jao62223 Жыл бұрын
I think Lori vallo's ego showed up when she was talking to her son Colby especially. She almost justifies what she did because she was in the hospital with those kids etc etc. She was the one that did this she was the one that did that.... According to her. You never hear her give credit to any of her family or husbands for anything. Lori's lost in her own head and her own little world.
@khm2128
@khm2128 Жыл бұрын
She may have had #MunchausenByProxy - may have caused Tylee's pancreatitis symptoms since she was 8 years old, just to portray herself as a martyr. Adding a truly handicapped child to her story further glamorized her so called #motherhood.
@ACB2K
@ACB2K Жыл бұрын
Stop lying April. Even Lori's cousin said that Lori was always a manipulative person. Lori manipulated stupid Chad. Chad was already off but it's when Chad met Lori, he became a murderer to please Lori. It's so easy to blame the man. Lori is a death sentence. Chad was under Lori influence as many men are, doing anything to please the woman..
@m0L3ify
@m0L3ify Жыл бұрын
She's probably not lying. People like Lori are extremely good at creating a fake persona that seems like the perfect friend, the perfect church member, the perfect mother. They hide their misdeeds behind closed doors. Even Kay said the reason they let her adopt JJ was because "Lori was the kind of mother every mother wishes they could be." Lori wore an extremely charming, lovely mask of purity and perfection, and she absolutely could have been a wonderful friend to April on the surface for years. She wore a mask until she didn't feel she needed to anymore. The reality is, Lori didn't change as a person, she just finally started showing her true self, and when she did, April distanced herself. The friend April knew wasn't actually real. It was a persona created for manipulation. She's grieving the loss of a person who never actually existed and that's ok. When she says the Lori in court isn't the Lori she knew, she's right. Because she didn't actually meet the real Lori until Lori met Chad and he gave her the self-licensing she needed to drop the mask and let it all show.
@JaneSmith0709
@JaneSmith0709 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree! Everyone talks about the influence that Chad had on Lori and how that was the catalyst for all this; I see it the other way around. Lori had dead bodies around her before she ever met Chad, Chad didn't. Not saying he's not a psycho too, but on his own he wasn't breaking any laws. Lori was definitely the gun powder that caused this explosion.
@candiceparr4174
@candiceparr4174 Жыл бұрын
@m0L3ify True. Narcissists mirror. That's why they seem so charming. They just reflect us back to ourselves. Until they can't. That woman in prison who did not know what to say to her grieving sister Summer? That's the real Lori, the real malignant narcissist. First time she was telling the truth, she really did not know what to say. What does she actually say, "you know me" and " the kids love me" Not, " i love the kids, not I know you, Summer" Me. Me. Me.
@m0L3ify
@m0L3ify Жыл бұрын
@@candiceparr4174 Yup. I fully believe Lori was just mirroring April for years whenever she was in Hawaii. It's pretty easy to string a friend like that along on a lie when there's a lot of long-distance time in between your visits. Ironic, I guess, that the person we fall in love with when we're with these people is actually ourselves, because they do so much to undermine our self-esteem. Once you realize that, the game's over.
@kathduncan9618
@kathduncan9618 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis is interesting but I lean towards mutual control and manipulation tactics. They are both repellent and delusional personalities but together they became ruthless killers. I do agree though that without Chad, Lori would probably have committed these crimes anyway, but Chad's approval expedited the process.
@ArtistBarbaraAnnKenney
@ArtistBarbaraAnnKenney Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@Single.White.Female
@Single.White.Female Жыл бұрын
She was definitely taking Joshua's ADHD meds. Absolutely. She said she didn't have to sleep anymore and it just adds up to yes, there was some drug use on top of her nasty evil disposition, sprinkle it with a side of psychotic narcissism and you've got Trouble....spelled LORI.
@fitztastico
@fitztastico Жыл бұрын
A light hearted hot take: Be wary of women who are new grandmothers and unhappy in their marriage - they may only be one step away from truly snapping 🤯
@dealiahunter6560
@dealiahunter6560 Жыл бұрын
Chris is pretty bad himself. Why is she talking to him?
@Katie-cs2hn
@Katie-cs2hn Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Bunnybella765
@Bunnybella765 Жыл бұрын
Chris…when she decided to take Charles’s life, she no longer deserves the name Vallow. Especially vividly remembering the body cam of him in Arizona saying she was saying strange things and saying he was a “Zombie” named Ned. Lori Daybell. She got remarried for the 5th time. If someone would have taken him seriously when he tried to have her held on a 72 hr hold, besides Lori’s brother Adam, lives might have been saved. I totally agree with juror 8 (maybe 9). The one police officer even tells her how to avoid the hold on audio. Nutz
@reneeolson4881
@reneeolson4881 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lori even ever studied the Bible. The 144 thousand are jews who earned their position. I guess she thinks she's a jew. Very sad stuff.
@manarmarzouk8595
@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын
Oops… another Lori here?
@charlenehudson2874
@charlenehudson2874 Жыл бұрын
Right from the 12 tribes what tribe did fatso and she think m they were from😊
@pamelaunderwood2925
@pamelaunderwood2925 Жыл бұрын
@@manarmarzouk8595 Another religious zealot, know it all! They just can't resist informing the world of the "true Word".
@Frenchblue8
@Frenchblue8 Жыл бұрын
April hasn't exactly been "silent" but no, she hasn't been seeking any attention from the media herself
@rm842
@rm842 Жыл бұрын
Usually narcissists are looking for the easiest way in life, so they look for someone to use. But when 2 narcissists come together, everyone around them will become their prey. They get pack mentality and egg each other on to do things that no normal human would ever think of.
@angelpie9530
@angelpie9530 Жыл бұрын
It would appearLori is the one possessed by dark spirits.
@factualbreakdown3072
@factualbreakdown3072 Жыл бұрын
This is an odd woman too. I don't know about you, but if one of my friends told me that "her husband was already dead and that there was an evil spirit living inside of his body," I'd be on the phone with the local police where that husband lived, if for no other reason than to go on record as to what his wife said. If you HEAR something, SAY something.
@AprilRaymond-ig7gt
@AprilRaymond-ig7gt Жыл бұрын
Charles had already gone to the police and Lori passed a psych evaluation with flying colors. What would YOUR next step be under those circumstances?
@factualbreakdown3072
@factualbreakdown3072 Жыл бұрын
@@AprilRaymond-ig7gt Unfortunately, as soon as Charles started talking about the fictitious "Meroni," and the Police realized he was LDS, they were predisposed to write him off as a nut. Had he said nothing about "Mormonism," he may have been taken a lot more seriously. What people involved with LDS don't realize or don't admit outwardly, is that mainstream Americans, especially if part of the mainstream, Catholic church, believe that this cult started by Joseph Smith is just that - a cult of misfits hiding behind "religion." For example, Chin Dumbell telling that psychologically fragile Audrey that she was married to the UNMARRIED Jesus Christ. For the 33 years that Jesus walked the Earth before his crucifixion, he was NOT married. To suggest otherwise is heresy. Period. When Chin Dumbbell told Julie Rowe YEARS before meeting Blondezilla that he had "visions" of Tammy Daybell dying young, possibly in some type of accident, Rowe should have gone FLYING to the Police, and then ricocheting to Tammy herself. If Tammy then chose to take no action, because she and her children were brainwashed my Mormonism, at least Rowe would have warned her. The same holds true with what Blondezilla told April Raymond. The POLICE should have been contacted immediately, and told that Mizz Shallow stated that "Charles was already dead and an evil spirit was living inside of his body," once Shallow left Ms. Raymond's home. Also, Ms. Raymond should have reached out to Charles Vallow and Kay Woodcock right away, to tell them that BZ said that she was "done" with JJ, and didn't want him anymore. As soon as Charles was murdered, both Ms. Raymond, Ms. Gibb and any other PARENT, especially PARENT who knew that BZ didn't want JJ anymore, should have immediately offered their assistance to the Woodcocks, to take custody of JJ. Except for one thing, which I wonder if Ms. Raymond is able to confirm: The Woodcocks didn't want to retake custody of JJ. I heard what Ms. Raymond said about JJ being very difficult to take care of, and I also heard the Idaho babysitter testify to an outburst JJ had after being brought home by a neighbor because he and the neighbor's son weren't playing well together, after which JJ became extremely angry and started throwing furniture around. Yes, I get that he had been off his medication for some time by then, but the bottom line is that claim by the Woodcocks that they would have given BZ the million dollars in return for JJ, is pure crap. They didn't want to have to deal with JJ's issues, which only would have worsened as he got older, and bigger. Sorry, but NO excuse for Kay's son Todd not cleaning up HIS ACT after SEVEN years, and getting OFF THE DRUGS. The Woodcocks were in touch with Adam Cox, and had they wanted to, they could have gotten word back to Shallow: A million dollars in return for JJ. BZ would have given him back in a heartbeat! I don't care about the adoption, JJ was TODD'S RESPONSIBILITY, he was STILL TODD'S SON. If the Woodcocks didn't have the stamina or wherewithal to handle JJ, then HIS FATHER SHOULD HAVE taken him. I believe that both Ms. Raymond and Ms. Gibb knew that giving JJ back to the Woodcocks was never an option. JJ was in clear and present danger once Charles was murdered, and this outcome a "reasonably foreseeable conclusion."
@jeannemarie5908
@jeannemarie5908 Жыл бұрын
April !! Yay! Nice to hear from you.
@ChickaIva
@ChickaIva Жыл бұрын
What nice polite interviewer.
@jessephillips5114
@jessephillips5114 Жыл бұрын
A lot of moms kill their kids, are you kidding me ?
@ElisabethB-fy3wn
@ElisabethB-fy3wn Жыл бұрын
Thanks April 😢
@JERSEYTOMATO
@JERSEYTOMATO Жыл бұрын
This APRIL - is out of touch - “GUILTY by ASSOCIATION” - by her own words “didn’t make sense” - APRIL does NOT get it - what deal did she “CUT” to save her on @zzz? Pathetic -
@FannyGodMother
@FannyGodMother Жыл бұрын
Wtf was that intro 😂 “Moms almost never kill their kids” 😅
@sandrahill-qn6hb
@sandrahill-qn6hb Жыл бұрын
Yeah, parents do kill their kids. 😢
@gointothedogs4634
@gointothedogs4634 Жыл бұрын
Chris, why does it have to be either or...Chad falls on the sword or blames Lori ? Finding each other gave them what each needed, validation and affirmation that they were special beyond all others. Together they (thought they) became an untouchable unit of godlike beings (small g). It's not either - or, it's two narcissistic individuals whose already twisted thinking with some kind of mental weakness was influenced and strengthened by the other's fawning adoration. In Lori's case you see a trail of death behind her before Chad. In Chad's case you see a husband and father's megalomanic desire to rise above others in his religious teachings to adoring fans.
@factualbreakdown3072
@factualbreakdown3072 Жыл бұрын
I see that the person here going under Ms. Raymond did not respond to my extremely thorough, consistently FACTUAL post, calling out what the most astute observers see was REALLY going on.
@Leolioness44
@Leolioness44 Жыл бұрын
Demons are capable of transfiguration of those whom they possess
@naomivantonder1161
@naomivantonder1161 Жыл бұрын
She was allways wicked but just hid it very well.
@rubytuesday1316
@rubytuesday1316 Жыл бұрын
The very foundation "Latter Days"LD$ leads to narcissism & codependency - cycles of evilness !
@pamelaunderwood2925
@pamelaunderwood2925 Жыл бұрын
@@rubytuesday1316 Just another variety of "cult"-- of vulnerable people attracted to this behavior/group mentality mindset.
@atfaafo
@atfaafo Жыл бұрын
It's not doomsday and she's not a mom. When will you change your narrative/ label NN?
@IndecentAngels
@IndecentAngels Жыл бұрын
No worries this lady is fine these people like the attention. I saw Lori's uncle walking around during court breaks talking to folks smiling telling reporters how great this experience has been for him and his daughter. Its funny Chris asking her with a lot of concern about how she doing... lol She's fine! There is a lot to this case and a lot of screw balls, and each screw ball has their part to play. Scary to think so many screwed up adults find each other in one place, All playing a perverse version of dudgeon's and dragons. Now I'm not saying this lady did anything. I look forward to seeing Chad on trial he looks like a crier!
@SolitaryCLeste-ez8nt
@SolitaryCLeste-ez8nt Жыл бұрын
It does seem this has aged her just a tad... Not as bad as Lori of course! But it's only been 3 years & she wasn't as cute as she was back then, but not bad either. & Yes! So hope Chad turns into the blubbering mess we know he is! Can't wait! ⏳
@Junitunes
@Junitunes Жыл бұрын
Whats wrong with you… two kids she knew was brutally murdered by her close friend and she had to stand trial… Laughing and smiling during this is much more insane and a red flag than feeling the gravity of the situation. I think sometimes true crime watchers become numb to things like children murdered. Do you have the ability to feel empathy
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 Жыл бұрын
What? Her uncle was saying what a great experience this has been?! The entire family is crazy!!
@mak7587
@mak7587 Жыл бұрын
Menopausal Associated Psychosis is a real thing. It usually takes on hyper religious ideation. As much as I want Lori to pay for her crimes I wonder if she has been diagnosed fairly due mental health professionals wanting or being forced to misdiagnose her intentionally, particularly as the public wouldn’t want her found innocent. My sister in law had this happen to her and was medicated for the rest of her life but lived a very happy and fulfilled life. It would be such an injustice if this did happen.
@julesjay424
@julesjay424 Жыл бұрын
Wow all the people around Lori Have aged 20 years
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan Жыл бұрын
This is aside from the horror of all of this, but I wish Tylee and J.J. were not referred to as "those kids" because "the kids" as "kids" sounds so casual. They were/are children. The choice of words suggests it is taken more seriously. There was certainly nothing casual about any of this. The use of "children" is much more respectful than the casual use of "kids." I feel badly for April. Having witnessed a severe change in someone I care about, I understand at least on some level what she feels regarding seeing someone and seeing a different person than previously known.
@joanneguest314
@joanneguest314 Жыл бұрын
Mrs Daybell the 2nd does not deserve to be called Vallow, can we please, please stop referring to her thus? Is there any legal remedy for the Vallow family victims to have her stripped from ever using their name now that she is a convicted serial killer and about to face 2 more murder charges?
@shirleybleazard8049
@shirleybleazard8049 Жыл бұрын
Bad!
@TracyFromAus
@TracyFromAus Жыл бұрын
I think Lori misunderstood who the 144,000 were! They were 'prisoners' Im sure she will see many in her new life.
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 Жыл бұрын
How about doing a More indepth interview with her!!
@josiahnguyen8792
@josiahnguyen8792 Жыл бұрын
And people don't believe in demonic possession
@DavidKnizner-px2dm
@DavidKnizner-px2dm Жыл бұрын
A brave woman!
@QuinnPrice
@QuinnPrice Жыл бұрын
When did Chris Cuomo get into true crime?
@IndyandJazmin
@IndyandJazmin Жыл бұрын
Probably when he got outed for being a lying manipulative sack of sh*t, who would do almost anything for a dollar, or for even a lot less...
@pamelaunderwood2925
@pamelaunderwood2925 Жыл бұрын
A year or two ago is my guess...He should be humiliated in shame at this point, but not this manipulator...
@OkLikeWhatever
@OkLikeWhatever Жыл бұрын
I don't think it was the religion or even Chad. She has so many dead bodies around her. Especially dead husbands. She is a black widow.
@geethebirdnerd
@geethebirdnerd Жыл бұрын
IM A PROUD 60 YEAR GRANDMOTHER WHO GETS MUCH JOY FROM MY GRANDKIDS- i dont understand that reference !? 🤔
@kathyellis6533
@kathyellis6533 Жыл бұрын
Love Chris !!!
@conniep3164
@conniep3164 Жыл бұрын
He’s hopeless. Who wrote his awful script?
@dianep1385
@dianep1385 Жыл бұрын
Lori is just plain EVIL,imo
@GaryRManganiello
@GaryRManganiello Жыл бұрын
I think Chad daybell was Lori's drug dealer and I believe allegedly that both of them either messes with hallucingenics and/or crystal meth and they just believed these delusions!
@LBG-cf8gu
@LBG-cf8gu Жыл бұрын
Read in another post, fwiw, that lori used to feed JJ crushed vallium. Any truth to it? As bad as mothers who feed their babies benadryl. just sayin'
@sydnidowney3598
@sydnidowney3598 Жыл бұрын
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT EVERYONE WHO IS CHARGED AND CONVICTED OF A HORRENDOUS CRIME DOESN'T GET THE SAME CRITICAL EVALUATION IN PUBLIC THAT THIS WOMAN HAS. MANY PEOPLE ARE JUST CALLED "AN ANIMAL" OR "EVIL" AND NO ONE CARES WHAT MADE THAT PERSON WHO/WHAT THEY ARE. THIS CERTAINLY DOESN'T EXCUSE THEIR EVIL DEEDS.....BUT IT DOES PUT THEIR BEHAVIOR IN SOME KIND OF CONTEXT.
@ellendickey4769
@ellendickey4769 Жыл бұрын
April is so well-spoken. Interesting comments.
@eloise22422
@eloise22422 Жыл бұрын
I love you Chris! You are one of a kind! So nice to see you doing your thing! Tell D Lemon I send my love and adoration to him also!
@vonderloo3184
@vonderloo3184 Жыл бұрын
Still buff looking with a great story.
@heatherracho
@heatherracho Жыл бұрын
There's Chris I miss you on cnn
@babe1er
@babe1er Жыл бұрын
Lori was 100% on meth , zulema had been jailed in the past for selling it even
@chasingamurderer
@chasingamurderer 8 ай бұрын
She lies
@teamcougars
@teamcougars Жыл бұрын
Some people are just bad and I believe Lori and Chad are definitely 2 of them, you make a decision to kill someone, especially your own children like Chris said MOST mothers don’t kill their children especially children who they have loved and nurtured 😢🤬💔
@manda_musings8459
@manda_musings8459 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and their sick discussions on how much PAIN they should involve in the murders is beyond evil
@margaretlumley1648
@margaretlumley1648 Жыл бұрын
Good people try to understand monsters. There's nothing to understand; they are just monsters
@lesliekupchanko5001
@lesliekupchanko5001 Жыл бұрын
Yes In some cases.
@BusyMagnaBee
@BusyMagnaBee Жыл бұрын
I am a grandmother. I can’t imagine my grandblessings having as part of their family story that their grandmother murdered their aunt and uncle. My heart aches for these innocent victims of this woman’s self-centered actions.
@rinaerasmus8803
@rinaerasmus8803 Жыл бұрын
@brendag8336 This is the most beautiful description of your little grandkids - GRANDBLESSINGS - just love it!❤
@ramonayoung4836
@ramonayoung4836 Жыл бұрын
I approve this comment❤
@lhr8833
@lhr8833 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a grandmother and I found that comment extra weird too, her friends are still enabling her and excusing her in one way or another.
@aprilbishop1765
@aprilbishop1765 Жыл бұрын
First I want to say this ex best friend gave no information. When I seen this I immediately thought oh I’m definitely watching that. No she said nothing we didn’t already know. I’ll tell you about Lori. She’s a woman that when she gets with a man it’s all about that man and what he can do for Lori. The thing is the past men loved her kids so that’s why the kids. was ok. But soon as she gets with Chad then it was all about Chad and his beliefs. For a mother to believe her kids still love her and everything is ok after they are crucified in her new husband’s backyard. Btw. I would love to know if she was there for those murders. They say yes because a hair was found on Jo’s pajamas. That doesn’t mean she was there. My kids have found one of my long hairs on there clothes and I had not seen them all day. They say she kept looking down every pic. ..so was she ashamed or clueless?? But if she didn’t know she sure didn’t cry or flip out.I know I would have been screaming crying seeing my kids hurt in any way. She is all about Chad and i think Chad is going to show Lori he is all for himself. Lori makes me livid as a mother because it’s always been inside her she just had not met a man who wanted her to get rid of the kids. RIP CHARLES RIP TYLIE AND JJ. RIP TAMMY..
@conniep3164
@conniep3164 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@khm2128
@khm2128 Жыл бұрын
@aprilbishop1765 The hair was on the exterior of the plastic covering JJ's body. JJ was enclosed in plastic, with tape covering his neck and mouth. His fingers tried to scratch off that part, so that was the first step in his murder. Then his body was bagged. Lori's hair was found on that part. Her hair outside of the pajamas is what implicated Lori's involvement at the scene of that crime. This was explained after the defense falsely claimed the hair was on the pajamas.
@nursejones2
@nursejones2 Жыл бұрын
@@khm2128 actually the hair was on the duct tape. I too believe she was there. Not only there, I think she did it.
@SweetUniverse
@SweetUniverse Жыл бұрын
I don't believe Lori was there for any of the murders because she knew what was going to happen and made herself scarce
@khm2128
@khm2128 Жыл бұрын
@@SweetUniverse Lori wasn't scarce when JJ died. And if Tylee died on the Yellowstone vacation (day of photograph of Tylee & JJ which is also same day as a Satanic holiday - see videos by Reverend Donna Seraphina) - then she was also not scarce when Tylee was tortured.
@bluecube7247
@bluecube7247 Жыл бұрын
Lori was never a good person... people liked the perks of being liked by her.
@lesliekupchanko5001
@lesliekupchanko5001 Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness she never took up on multi-marketing schemes. She would've been more messed up.
@wkjeom
@wkjeom Жыл бұрын
Lori vallow is/was an adult and made her own decisions and choices.
@alison2649
@alison2649 Жыл бұрын
The ONLY thing Chad the Chinless has left in his life is his (very first cult members)children. So he’s going to say WHATEVER he has to say to try and keep them in his corner. He’ll never admit his role in all of this. I’m just truly shocked that the phone calls and recordings don’t make them wake up.
@TheLastDispensation
@TheLastDispensation Жыл бұрын
Chad the Chinless 😂.. He also has this new pouty face since his Barbie Doll from Hell who used to join him in the shower was taken from him... She now looks more like Betty Davis in Whatever Happened to Baby Jane 😭
@ramonayoung4836
@ramonayoung4836 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheLastDispensation 😂😂😂. She sure does look like her😮
@factualbreakdown3072
@factualbreakdown3072 Жыл бұрын
The Chin's (or less) kids are all LDS wierdos. Look at the oldest, Garth, who seems to be smirking when describing how he told his father after picking his mother up from being halfway off the bed that he "thinks his mother is dead." The kids who were in the house that night must have known that Chin let Alex Cox in - it took two to hold Tammy down and smother her. In my opinion all of the Dumbbell adult children know, to one degree or another exactly what their father did to their mother.
@alison2649
@alison2649 Жыл бұрын
@@TheLastDispensation YESSSS
@beverlyderosa5390
@beverlyderosa5390 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Slungmaters
@Slungmaters Жыл бұрын
People who stop by and visit "unannounced" are the absolute worst.
@Nikki-333
@Nikki-333 Жыл бұрын
Lol! 😂 We had 2 people come by “unannounced” today and i hated every second of it. Haha
@Slungmaters
@Slungmaters Жыл бұрын
@@Nikki-333 RUDE! 😜
@Nikki-333
@Nikki-333 Жыл бұрын
@@Slungmaters 🤣
@pommiebears
@pommiebears Жыл бұрын
I don’t take kindly to that either. My home is my sanctuary, and having someone turn up randomly is horrible. Unless it’s one of our kids, of course. They’re all grown up, but pop in randomly when back home (military, so away lots) 🌹
@erin4321
@erin4321 Жыл бұрын
Thats why my inlaws live 42 miles away!!
@marklubic2575
@marklubic2575 Жыл бұрын
This is not a sudden change in Lori. Just listen to earlier interviews with her mother and other family members. They are covering for her life long shabby behavior because they are delusional, too. They even look crazy with that extremely caked on makeup and arrogant manners.
@y2ksurvivor
@y2ksurvivor Жыл бұрын
Eh. You don't keep deeply toxic people close, like best friend status, unless you yourself engage in toxicity and admire someone toxic.
@Junitunes
@Junitunes Жыл бұрын
No, toxic people are generally really manipulative and good to those they’re close to. Also lori had a huge change in personality before and after she met chad. Like huge! She was a dream mom, went above and beyond.
@jonoharper4729
@jonoharper4729 Жыл бұрын
​@@Junitunes Nope, she was NEVER a "dream mom", her own family have said that she manipulated and bullied her way through every situation of her entire life to meet her own needs, and life was hell when she wasn't getting her own way. A little research goes a long way 😉
@SurvivorC
@SurvivorC Жыл бұрын
If you do research on her family of origin history and other interviews you will see she didn't just radically change.
@bthe1doright462
@bthe1doright462 Жыл бұрын
Good Interview. April is a sweet and straight shooting woman and her loss of a friend that was once a close confidant - fellow church goer and friend to her daughter must be really painful. She has obviously done a lot of emotional work to get the clarity and composure that she is at now. So glad the jury saw what was needed to be seen in Lori Vallows Corrupt and Despicable Actions that Caused the Deaths of FOUR PEOPLE !
@kathleendudek2955
@kathleendudek2955 Жыл бұрын
The angel Macaroni?
@Scott-sv5wg
@Scott-sv5wg Жыл бұрын
Lori and Chad Daybell are Mormons and believe in the stories of angel Moroni.
@time2see192
@time2see192 Жыл бұрын
Even her best friend hasn't put 2 and 2 together, to realize she was seeing and communicating with demons.
@GameChanger597
@GameChanger597 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@amandavanheerden7980
@amandavanheerden7980 Жыл бұрын
Many people who have had no imagination for a long time think that when they get the odd flash it is real and then they ride the idea, which is life changing, to the ends of the earth. I think Lori was one of those who lived a hyper superficial life amidst false religiosity. Also her religious 'insights' were all related to money and power at the end of the line.
@wandalea9
@wandalea9 Жыл бұрын
April was fooled by Lori's persona of being the "good mormon mom", which was only for the purpose of gaining attention & admiration. Lori was always a psychopath.
@cheriemaneshi2755
@cheriemaneshi2755 Жыл бұрын
Lori was recruiting this woman the same way Lori was recruiting everyone to do her bidding her whole life .Lori is a malignant narcissist and clearly so is Chad So the two of them together was like a storm straight out of Hell .
@kabra72
@kabra72 Жыл бұрын
Becoming grandma is toxic?
@elizabethgrant8538
@elizabethgrant8538 Жыл бұрын
Apparently she thinks it was a trifecta of toxicity. Lol. Becoming a Grandma is the best thing ever!
@HeatherRose2023
@HeatherRose2023 Жыл бұрын
Narcissistic women don’t want grandchildren because it shows they are aging, and they no longer have control of their children.
@janetshemaryahu5529
@janetshemaryahu5529 Жыл бұрын
To a narcissist who has always lived for her looks, this mark of aging could be devastating. I understand she had a bad crisis when Colby got married, and she openly did not like Colby’s wife. A real ‘reverse’, Mom-to-son Oedipal complex: Colby was a decent-looking young man she could pass off to strangers as a ‘lover’, and now he belongs to another woman. Lori was clearly not healthy, so becoming a grandmother could have caused a crisis that a brand new love affair with no children points to.
@pamelaunderwood2925
@pamelaunderwood2925 Жыл бұрын
No! But Chris Cuomo is! He/CNN were instrumental in propagandizing the downfall of this country for the last three years.
@christinegonzales6788
@christinegonzales6788 Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace 🙏💔😢 all victims and family members 💔 who cared loved
@Gwaycee
@Gwaycee Жыл бұрын
A person who had been married four times is not exactly the best. Add cultic worship and you have the walking dead.
@conniep3164
@conniep3164 Жыл бұрын
This woman says nothing
@susanmiller6023
@susanmiller6023 Жыл бұрын
Not only did she murder she also destroyed lives all over.
@SweetiePieTweety
@SweetiePieTweety Жыл бұрын
Cuomo is so strange…. these two seem to be a perfect duo to bring us strange duo “fact” reveal… a little too late.
@EveryoneIsEqual101
@EveryoneIsEqual101 Жыл бұрын
I think her sister and joe were her first victims with her brother helping
@leesadexter7187
@leesadexter7187 Жыл бұрын
I think Lori had a few demonic attachments.
@herroyalhighness5634
@herroyalhighness5634 Жыл бұрын
Chris is a good interviewer. He asks good questions, knows how to listen to their full reply and not interject, and always has sincere expressions of concern for people, allowing family members to tell us what was special about their loved ones, etc. I really didn’t care for him at CNN due to the biased rhetoric over there, but J always appreciated his interview skills and I really like him here on News Nation where they can report on topics without being pressured into a mind-numbing group-think.
@nikan7704
@nikan7704 Жыл бұрын
I have to say (so far) I agree with you. He was unbearable to listen to at CNN but in the few clips I've seen with him at newsnation I've been... well shocked is the word. 😅 The first time I had to really wonder if it was him 😅 I've been pleasantly surprised at liking his segments.
@conniep3164
@conniep3164 Жыл бұрын
He’s awful! He’s opening statement was dreadful to start with.
@CONCERNEDcitizenforever
@CONCERNEDcitizenforever Жыл бұрын
@@conniep3164is it Connie or Karen?!
@rayc9899
@rayc9899 Жыл бұрын
Why CNN LEFT HIM GO, it's their loss cause Chris came give an impeccable interview and he's a good listen.
@brookingsbeachcomber
@brookingsbeachcomber Жыл бұрын
it's hard to watch any of these stooges that pushed the Scamdemic and killed the elderly in NY
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview! Glad she is speaking out! She upended a lot of lives. Thanks April! Take care lady! Hugs 🤗
@peggygibbons479
@peggygibbons479 Жыл бұрын
I am so friggin SICK TO DEATH of all Lori's Best Friends, Nieces, Neighbors, Her SISTER, her SON, her In LAWS but not ONE PERSON said, YOU are a NUT!! I'm taking your kids home with me and you can sue me or whatever but you have NO BUSINESS "taking care of" these children!! And Lori would have done NOTHING!!! Melanie Gibbs, I'd like to find her on a dark parking lot.
@jokelly1880
@jokelly1880 Жыл бұрын
Ever notice that you don't hear anything about or from any girlfriends of Lori's other than these short-term acquaintances? Did super-Mom at 47 not have any close friendships? I'm 58 and still have close friends from 40 years ago don't live where I live.
@tarnsand440
@tarnsand440 Жыл бұрын
I don't like Cuomo referring to Lori as " Vallow". Charles' last name shouldn't be sullied associated to her. The court only used it as that was her last name when she committed the crimes.
@IaneHowe
@IaneHowe Жыл бұрын
Sshe was toxic before Chad. She was very toxic with Joseph. People were fooled by her. I happen to beshe influenced Chad like with Alex way more then the other way around
@SweetUniverse
@SweetUniverse Жыл бұрын
Lori seems like the kind of woman whose value is in her beauty. That's her only value & where her self-worth is, and then she started getting older and losing her looks (now she's lost all of her looks). Chad and his flattery just got her at the right time, which might have been a low time for her.
@somewhereinthemidwest9827
@somewhereinthemidwest9827 Жыл бұрын
Her children were expendable? His children are still living and breathing. He’s worse than evil and she’s crazy!
@nicohode
@nicohode Жыл бұрын
Who is she kidding. She loving the limelight. All these crazies are enjoying their 15 minutes.
@Wanda-g6z
@Wanda-g6z Жыл бұрын
She killed two children who had been given to her to love and encojrage on top of all this she brings blaspheny to their creator. How could she or Chad believe that it was anything but evil. They have no defense
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