THERE IS NO TRICK FOR HEAVY GUITARS

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EytschPi42

EytschPi42

Күн бұрын

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@georgeangelakopoulos8884
@georgeangelakopoulos8884 5 ай бұрын
I think the key to the sound is that you have an exceptional bass sound...
@vasotoe
@vasotoe 5 ай бұрын
Love these videos Henning! Keep them coming 🤘
@jasonbone5121
@jasonbone5121 5 ай бұрын
Loved the "dinkley stuff". The whole "think 3 dimensionally" aspect is brilliant. Thanks Henning!
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 5 ай бұрын
I like Rush, Moving Pictures as an example. The guitar is often not very distorted but the bass and drums add incredible weight to the sound.
@garethc3448
@garethc3448 5 ай бұрын
your song writing videos are amazeballz
@zvirb
@zvirb 5 ай бұрын
It`s the world`s best lesson! Great thanks, Henning!
@HappyHoundClub
@HappyHoundClub 5 ай бұрын
That's absolutely brilliant and really helpful. Thanks, good Sir. 🙏👌
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 5 ай бұрын
Very good, and useful lesson. No quad tracking. But I use two but similar amps for the left right paning (Marshall JCM 800 for a left track and Mesa Mark 4 fot the right. It makes it even more juicy. And third, solo track in the middle using Soldano SLO, all amps are free NAM captures. That is how I do it.
@demondrive147
@demondrive147 5 ай бұрын
accenting theme notes is what I started to do subconsciously by throwing octaver over clean patch. Makes a big difference in full mix! And I am totally with you on double tracking. It just sounds fat enough, but also more organic
@HappyHoundClub
@HappyHoundClub 5 ай бұрын
I used something you taught in this video on my new song. Thank you, fine Sir. God bless you. 🙏❤️
@planetpjr
@planetpjr 5 ай бұрын
Recarguitording starts at 12:10
@BlackChromeJamTracks
@BlackChromeJamTracks 5 ай бұрын
Bloody brilliant sir! Thank you for sharing your secrets and the inspiration. I agree, two tracks is enough. Sometime I'll add an Hammond B3 up the middle. Cheers from Calgary!
@Andy_Yates
@Andy_Yates 5 ай бұрын
I've been working on song writing with my guitar teacher (who is a recording and touring musician). My material leans more toward death/thrash metal but I'll have to try some of the clean layers in places and see how it sounds in some parts. It definitely adds to the experience in your track. His advice was similar to you in that you play and record the left and right guitar with hard pan, or like a 70% pan left and right. I have a single note riff where the left and right guitar harmonize each other. This is probably specific to single note harmonized parts, but I'm recording the left guitar and right guitar each twice. The "left part" I record into a left and right track, and similarly the "right part" is recorded into a left and right track. I'm recording dry so I can use plugins or re-amp later, but generally the song is using far less gain than I might in practice play, plus I am high passing the guitars at 100-120Hz. So in my case, the quad track is not for widening as much as it is to let the harmonies be more prominent. I also agree drums and bass can really change the feel and impact of a part. If you're not writing songs or drum parts, all you need to do is watch some of the "hears for the first time" videos on drumeo to hear how much a drum part can change a song
@DLM41
@DLM41 5 ай бұрын
Product placement? Yeah I seen the Sweetwater mug towards the end of the video,lol. Love the fun videos!
@waveshape
@waveshape 5 ай бұрын
An amazing explanation!
@f4tb0b
@f4tb0b 5 ай бұрын
Thanks yet again. Even the "Animals at the end" is like all the guitar noise at the end of a song fading out to bring us safely back to the real world. :)
@mark.guitar
@mark.guitar 5 ай бұрын
These are really useful tips for writing/arranging. Could you use a guitar with clear fret markers so I don't need to take my mind off what you're teaching to guess which fret you're moving to. Pretty please Henning! A wall of sound tends to restrict you to walking inside the wall. I first heard that in the eighties and it really needs saying again.
@shorerocks
@shorerocks 5 ай бұрын
First of all: What Henning says! Let me add to this. Perception of heavy depends on the context. Deep Purple recorded (please consider the time WHEN they released certain songs) some of the heaviest guitars. And that was a Strat in a Marshall, often sometimes not even double. Of course, this cannot compete with KORN compared today. Quad tracking / Baritone / Drop to wherever - sure, make the mix super dense. And good luck keeping the punch of the drums. Because, everything is competing, frequencywise. And keep it mono compatible. Of course, done right, and with taste, you can record something perceived as ultra heavy. In my book, this needs ALL INSTRUMENTS to contribute.
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 5 ай бұрын
Biffy Clyro! They mostly use Stratocasters when recording, thought sometimes they bring in s Les Paul, or something. But listening to 55th episode of the podcast Tape Notes, when Biffy Clyro frontman Simon Neil and producer Rich Costey talked about how they recorded and produced the album A Celebration Of Endings, they touched upon guitar recording, naturally. One of the best sounding and heaviest sounding guitar tones was a Strat through a Metal Zone, into a Marshall amp and one SM57 microphone. It sounds awesome!
@shawnhockey4841
@shawnhockey4841 5 ай бұрын
METAL THATS WHY I LOVE 7 string guitars great video Hp 🎸🤘s by the way I still rock the white Harley Benton thanks again✌️❤️
@CorNigrum
@CorNigrum 5 ай бұрын
Another helpful video for us amateur home engineer musicians. So there are bands that say they've got a better, heavier, more cutting tone by stripping all guitars to just a raw panned left and right track on their recordings... sometimes with some variations in the exact chords played, like you show in this video. Then you've got bands that try to follow the Metallica Black Album many layers wall of sound philosophy. Considering a "metal" context, that is music where guitars are the main instrument, how do you evaluate these conflicting options of getting heavy sounds? I agree with the warnings about muddiness, that's also my experience, but of course your mix is already pretty busy with multiple vocal tracks and high guitars (keyboard?) fills. Why do some engineers and bands and records get away with heavy layering and some don't?
@Rikamortis6stringer
@Rikamortis6stringer 5 ай бұрын
I like the way You explain things in layman's terms. I have heard of quad tracking and a lot of guys say it's the way to go? I tend to believe you because you have done it for so long. Great tutorial. One mistake You forgot the solo!!!!!!😂 Jk. Great video as always, hopefully you can go a little more in depth maybe later if needed. Thanks Henning 💯
@martinoliverguitar
@martinoliverguitar 5 ай бұрын
What would your advice be for a hard rock 2 guitar band. If there is 2 rhythm parts and a lead. Do both guitar players double track their rhythm parts or do they just record what they are doing and pan one hard left one hard right and then does the lead go down the middle or is that double tracked as well. Do both players use the same cab for consistency and then their amp preferance. If i listen to Appitite for destruction i sounds like its one left rhtythm one right rhythm not double tracked with a lead down the middle and overdubs to suit. whereas blizzard of Ozz sounds like one double tracked rhythm panned left right and a double tracked lead just off left right. Am i thinking to much into what is right and wrong or is whatever is right for the genre? This is a great series of videos, would love to see more of this kind of video.
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
It really depends on the parts. If both players play the same part I would only have one player track twice it so it is as close as possible.
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 5 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff!
@explorervango880
@explorervango880 5 ай бұрын
Going back to The Beatles some songs John would play a riff on the Casino that was pretty raw and then George’s part (or one of them) would be adding the accents clean like you suggested here.
@braxal6983
@braxal6983 5 ай бұрын
Henning, I am really enjoying these videos. Do you only mix inside the box or do you have any outboard gear like compression and EQ?
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
Only in the box
@chocolatecookie8571
@chocolatecookie8571 5 ай бұрын
Great drums. Could you make a tutorial how to make a cool drum record?
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 5 ай бұрын
Henning has a course about how to program drums, if I'm not mistaken. Maybe that could be helpful.
@chocolatecookie8571
@chocolatecookie8571 5 ай бұрын
@@nedim_guitar oh okay, I will check it out. Thank you
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 5 ай бұрын
@@chocolatecookie8571 Yeah, the course isn't really about a drum record, it's more about how to program realistic sounding drums. Check out the description, it says it better than I do. :)
@jimshomestudio
@jimshomestudio 5 ай бұрын
The chances of me listening to any music in mono is zero. It never happens. Mostly Stereo playback and occasionally 5.1/7.1 in my living room. Because I sometimes have my music playing in the living room that’s when I discovered LCR. If mono plays out the center and hard pans play out the rears then I want all three going for max wall of sound. To get LCR I am still doing dual pass but recording 2 speakers per pass. The total of 4 different speakers is set up for LCR as you would expect. To create a center I am adding two phase aligned channels and reducing each volume under clipping. All of your recommendations still come in to play, I like clean stuff hiding in there too. And sometimes I will add a low gain part as well. I think it takes a variety of gain structures (low/high) and a wide frequency spectrum. But not too many passes at it. You want to punch through with parts. Mono is always a great choice too, some of my best results are quite simple. Mono with stereo effects. Enjoy your video very much HP! Thank you!
@merlinaudubon6202
@merlinaudubon6202 5 ай бұрын
I have a Les Paul XR-1 that weighs about 20 lbs. If that's not playing a heavy guitar, I don't know what is. 😄
@vaughnwebbermusic
@vaughnwebbermusic 5 ай бұрын
Metaaal Roll!!!
@andrewmorgan1640
@andrewmorgan1640 5 ай бұрын
Boundaries create ideas. No more than double track unless it’s a harmony or flourish. Wisdom in this video. Still waiting for the vacuum cleaners.
@joapguitar
@joapguitar 3 ай бұрын
for the heaviest of guitars, yes, you need to blend in the dry DI track 😁🤘
@metalex1708
@metalex1708 5 ай бұрын
I bought a really light weight guitar last year, no need to make them heavy 🤪Otherwise I track two guitars, too or I just turn on the doubler in two notes or the plugin of choice, when I'm lazy
@BcBaxley
@BcBaxley 5 ай бұрын
Quad Tracking....Little by little, you're just letting yourself become Tyler Durden😎🍻🤘
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
What are you trying to say?
@BcBaxley
@BcBaxley 5 ай бұрын
@@EytschPi42 You think you want to be the cool guy...Tyler Durden "Quad Tracking", but in reality, ones "dual tracking" was beauty in imperfection all along 💋🍻🤘
@vaughnwebbermusic
@vaughnwebbermusic 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant song
@bassmanchristian1431
@bassmanchristian1431 5 ай бұрын
Hallo HP, welche Gitarre spielst Du da? Bässste Grüße
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
Nik Huber Krautster III
@bassmanchristian1431
@bassmanchristian1431 5 ай бұрын
@@EytschPi42 Danke, klingt sehr fett und sieht gut. Für ich muss aber die Yamaha Revstar Standard reichen 😊
@PooNinja
@PooNinja 5 ай бұрын
Rock hard? Wait what. Pan repeat , that’s complete?
@028fn48dne
@028fn48dne 5 ай бұрын
Anybody tell you this week that you look kinda like Steve Albini?
@branmacman
@branmacman 5 ай бұрын
If copyright wasnt an issue, acdc is a perfect example
@fromfilmtocode
@fromfilmtocode 18 күн бұрын
17:45 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@MichaelAyotte-bl8xh
@MichaelAyotte-bl8xh 5 ай бұрын
I feel the same about quads...you lose so much definition. If you cant make it sound big with two tracks, youve got the wrong amp! My dual rec NEVER has a problem sounding monstrous on just double tracking. I know a lot of people hate "dry" amps like that, but lemme tell you...theyre THE best for recording rhythm tracks.
@TheBoxBand
@TheBoxBand 5 ай бұрын
I know how to get heavy, I need to know how to get light and thin.
@Durkhead
@Durkhead 5 ай бұрын
Triple tracking is the way to go one on each side and one at lower volume in the middle
@georgyj111111
@georgyj111111 5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Otherwise you loose your guitars in mono. Especially, when you do both sides with the same guitar/amp combination.
@Durkhead
@Durkhead 5 ай бұрын
@@georgyj111111 iv also had success with putting the "fake stereo" track where you use the same track panned left and right but flip the phase of one side at a lower volume then adding two more tracks ontop panned left and right it really fills in the middle of the entire stereo space
@nedim_guitar
@nedim_guitar 5 ай бұрын
I used to do one guitar left and one right. Keeping it basic. My problem was that in songs that only have that one guitar part, like a riff, it just felt it lacked something. For some reason, one time I added a guitar centered, and even though it was very subtle, removing the C guitar felt like the part lost something. I tend to use two different guitars, one with humbuckers and one with single coils. The C guitar might be either of the two, or a third guitar. All played through different amps and speakers. I tend to pan the more similar sounding amp and speaker combination hard left and hard right, and the one that's more different is centered. But it depends, maybe I want a bigger difference between L and R, so... In production or mixing context, sometimes I'm not sure what to do when I have a second guitar part. Do I put it centred? One or two tracks? Do I pan it hard left or right, or maybe 40 or 50 L or R? Do I double track that guitar too, but pan one hard left or hard right, and keep one centered? Or something else? What do you suggest?
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
You don’t lose anything in mono if you actually double track and play each track. This is incorrect!
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
Definitely don’t copy and Phase reverse this will completely erase your tracks in mono…
@Margilio5150
@Margilio5150 5 ай бұрын
Noodle! 🤘🏽
@DadoSimicStudiostriver
@DadoSimicStudiostriver 5 ай бұрын
Somehow i hear clean tone and distorted at the same time.
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
Yes… I wrote that in the video.. that was a routing mistake I made
@lilian896
@lilian896 5 ай бұрын
❇💠🏴‍☠💠❇
@mcinen67
@mcinen67 5 ай бұрын
😄👍
@dillonbrowning4564
@dillonbrowning4564 5 ай бұрын
Man saying that quad tracking isn't useful is just wrong. There are plenty of high level engineers who use quad tracking in their sessions and it doesn't sound muddy. Just because it's not the way you like to do it doesn't mean it should never be done or that it isn't a good idea.
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
I can only teach what I know and what my experience taught me
@cimmeriakurt
@cimmeriakurt 2 ай бұрын
But can I do white guy gangsta mumble rap with this?????
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 2 ай бұрын
Sure
@hellofx
@hellofx 5 ай бұрын
Tie your guitar with a 30 kilos of sandbag . . . . also how dare you'never review your crazy looking awesome daw controller 2:07.
@EytschPi42
@EytschPi42 5 ай бұрын
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