F. Chopin - Prelude no. 17 in A-flat major Op. 28 no.17 - analysis. Greg Niemczuk's lecture

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[@xrrainx823]

Dear Mr. Niemczuk, please - if you can - upload a recording of this piece! I can’t find ANYBODY who plays the church bells the same fortissimo! Everyone lets them soften at the end. You are the only one! I come to this video just to listen.

[@gregniemczuk]

Really? Wow... Yes... I plan to record all the Preludes in April! It will be on Spotify as well.

[@dannilosouza4955]

I think this one is my favorite

[@中島百合子-g6o]

Bravo ❣️Greg 👏👏👏in Japan 11 bell 鐘🔔 like Rachmaninoff prelude op.3-2 No😡 I thought you said 11 clock🥹correct🕰 I agree 💐👏👏 Tom’s midnight garden! Time is no longer

[@joannawronska4100]

SO WONDERFUL AS ALWAYS!!!!! Thank you for my favourite Chopin's Prelude known as "Scena Na Placu Notre-Dame W Paryżu" in an excellent rendition and for your analysis/tutorial, this great video will be helpful for many pianists, again my best regards, have a nice evening. Joanna

[@carlosazambujayt]

It's impossible not to like a video like this. Deep and sincere at all times. And who cares about a few wrong notes, if the MUSIC, that is so well composed, is so well felt, so well understood and so well played by the pianist?

[@gregniemczuk]

Thank you so much Carlos!!! I really appreciate that

[@stephanepicault4477]

Magnificent job! You really have a talent for communicating your love of Chopin's music. I enjoyed every minute of your presentation and your playing., which was full of sensitivity and emotion. Quite out of the ordinary. And you have the most charming accent!

[@gregniemczuk]

Thank you so much!!!

[@susumukudo009]

ちょっと退屈で眠くなりました。でも、CCを使えば、英語の勉強にはなりますね。Unfortunately, I liked FEI FEI DONG's teaching better.

[@gregniemczuk]

It's NOT A VIDEO FOR PIANO PLAYERS! IT'S NOT TEACHING. It's just analysis for music lovers. So of course piano players will be bored watching it. I am not surprised at all.

[@Alexandra.v.L.-J.]

Wow, almost the best interpretation and quite nice explanation of the piece additionally. But a little bit to much show and theatric action sometimes.

[@kinchann11]

I think the microphone setting is unique.

[@MoiAussi18]

If I recall correctly, you posed a question about a plane without engines. Two possibilities: 1) A normal plane in a lot of trouble. 2) A glider (as in something that glides).

[@gregniemczuk]

Thanks! I meant a glider!

[@MoiAussi18]

@@gregniemczuk Heh, I knew that. No. 1 is just my English dry sense of humour. I once had a Polish girlfriend (from Łódź). She didn't understand it either.

[@hippophile]

Great explanations as ever! Personal taste is for f/ff chimes not ffff (I know a lot of very famous players disagree though), but apart from that I love it! I have been learning this piece now on and off for a couple of months, and it really is a lot harder than it sounds, especially when one's technique is not at the Greg level! Pedalling has to be learned carefully and correct, chords have to be together and complete but not banged (and they are quite big with interleaved fingers, sometimes one had on top switching to the other); only the dynamics and rubato are moderately easy, as playing them naturally gives a pretty good effect (in my experience) - though of course with thoughtful play one can improve on that...

[@rosautrilla5757]

Gracias es muy bello para mí comenzar el día con Chopin y usted al piano !! Es un regalo que la vida me da hoy !!

[@gregniemczuk]

Con mucho gusto! Todos los videos sobre Preludios ya tienen subtitulos en español! Que disfrutes!

[@tinchunwong7372]

Gliding - when the airplane just glides to the wind with no engine. You can find in "The Thomas Crown Affair" and watch the beautiful gliding. (The Steve McQueen version is far superior). This is what I am imagining as you mentioned this part of the Prelude. You are quit e wonderful and has kept me engaged and inspired by your enthusiasm and knowledge of Chopin. Thank you.

[@feuerfawkes]

Brilliant analysis! Could you also turn these analysis videos into podcasts?

[@gregniemczuk]

Wow! Nice idea. I was thinking about that and now you I inspired me to do it faster

[@bhxzbcx]

prosze powiedziec skad ta figurka chopina. sam bym z mila checia zakupil taka figurke

[@gregniemczuk]

Otrzymałem ją w prezencie podczas tego projektu od jednej z fanek, która również dostała ją w prezencie. A zatem nie wiem niestety, skąd ona pochodzi. Pozdrawiam serdecznie

[@junkostratton5586]

Am a hobby pianist who enjoys solid lessons. Wow. Amazing. 11 bells. Did chopin know he was close to his end. Fascinating to learn about geniuses we adore after centuries. Thank you.

[@pavlenikacevic4976]

Well, he wrote it more than 10 years before his end

[@kakhigiorgadze8487]

this is one of my favorites when it comes to Chopin's preludes, It is almost like Chopin himself is set beside you and is explaining a story which he reminisces on. starts of with pure innocence and joy and gradually gets sadder, although never falls in despair as if he is trying to keep a happy face for a guest.

[@gregniemczuk]

Beautiful explanation 😀

[@pauldavies5611]

This was very nice, Mr. Niemczuk. Whenever I hear or play this prelude the ending often makes me think of someone playing the piano next to an open casket where someone very dear to the pianist is lying. I didn’t know the story about the bell. Thank you. 🙏

[@gregniemczuk]

You're welcome Paul. Thanks for watching!

[@cambridgeport90]

It's thanks to you that I can once again play this... Was the last piece I worked on with my piano teacher before she retired... in fact, I don't think we actually ever finished it. Time to get back.

[@gregniemczuk]

Wonderful! Good luck! I'm so happy to hear that. Of you have any questions, let me know: [e-mail]

[@batuhankaya5837]

Great again!!!! Thanks for this masterpiece

[@vanewfies]

Wonderful rendition. Thank you for your huge work.

[@lvb1770]

Fantastic video! Thanks for sharing! I believe the English word for flight you were asking for was "Glide"

[@gregniemczuk]

Yes it was! Thank you!

[@NelsonGuedes]

This is funny, I always thought of that bass note like something like a clock, but I always though like it was at a distance, hearing it far away. Still always strong, but a bit far away.

[@gregniemczuk]

Of course it can be like that. It's the question of interpretation of each pianist.

[@franciscopetracco5553]

the fortissimo part is not played fortissimo by a lot of people. I like pogorelichs interpretation of this especific prelude because he plays it forte and with very strong basses!

[@gregniemczuk]

True! He's never afraid 😀

[@user-pb7kx2hq9w]

I was thinking that the 11 A flat notes should be played with the same "time gap" between them. because a clock does not wait longer for some beats. So why did Chopin leave 2, 3 and 4 bars??????

[@gregniemczuk]

I also thought so... But probably Chopin was a poet and he didn't want to make it literally.

[@carlosazambujayt]

@@gregniemczuk It could also be a matter of our perception of time: sometimes we hear a few chimes from an old clock, but we get distracted, and suddenly we are surprised by another chime, as regular as the previous ones, but, for us, more or less spaced out.

[@gadielvalverde2096]

Es lectura a primera vista?

[@gregniemczuk]

No totalmente. Pero nunca lo he tocado en público....

[@gadielvalverde2096]

@@gregniemczuk gracias! cuando vienes a Peru? me gustaria que dieras unas clases maestras en la universidad nacional de Música del Peru. Eres siempre bienvenido Greg!

[@gregniemczuk]

@@gadielvalverde2096 me encantaría!!! No sé todavía,.pero espero que pronto!!!!

[@MoiAussi18]

Like Falling off a Log: Rubato in Chopin’s Prelude in A-flat Major by William Rothstein [please Google to read the excellent piece in its entirety] [extract] "The form of the A-flat-major Prelude is simple. It is a five-part rondo, ABACA, framed by a two-measure introduction and a slightly longer coda. The second A section is incomplete, consisting of an antecedent phrase without its consequent; the third and final A section is heard over a tonic pedal." A brief outline of form (a more detailed version is provided by the author) Measures 1-2: intro Measures 3-18: A Measures 19-27: B Measures 27-34: codetta-->retrans Measures 35-42: A (prime) Measures 43-57: C Measures 57-64: codetta Measures 65-84: A (double prime) Measures 84-90: coda You can follow the analysis with the sheet music here: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5iagGZnlNOUbqs Regarding that point so beautifully explained by our host regarding Chopin "banging with all his power one note in the bass", I listened to a number of versions, and, unsurprisingly, it is Rubinstein who remains most faithful to this idea. See here (quite possibly 1946): m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6vIo2SGmdGErNU So wonderful. I actually thought that Greg Niemczuk might have been overdoing it in going on at such length about this, but listening to Rubinstein you can see that it is the making of the piece when it is performed in accordance with Chopin's obvious preference. No wonder that Clara and Robert Schumann and Mendelssohn thought so highly of it. From Wikipedia: 'The favorite of Clara and Robert Schumann. Mendelssohn wrote of it, "I love it! I cannot tell you how much or why; except perhaps that it is something which I could never at all have written." '

[@ruzannavanesian7182]

Too slow

[@hippophile]

Greg is in practice mode while giving an analysis of ALL Chopin's works, as this piece takes a bit of time to get up to a full performance level for anyone on the planet. The piece contains a lot of complex and unusual chords and jumps. You cannot have the entire repertoire of Chopin ready in the fingers at performance level within a few short months!

[@carlosazambujayt]

@ruzannavanesian7182 - And it still sounds great. It's not performance, it's for analysis. The tempo is Allegretto, a marking open to a certain range of possibilities, and the piece really imitates a human singer, with all the cantabile, the accents, the tenutos, the little ritenuto preparing a higher note... It can't be at in a very fast tempo. I also play a little faster than Greg does in this video (which, again, is not a performance video!), but Greg's playing is quite consistent nonetheless.