F4 (Ver. 2.0) by Stay Sharp Guides

[@h-minus2212]

You are quite the engineer, Sir. You were able to make that head over 4 times sharper than its original form. Wow. I was one of the persons who queried about a Tooth of the Arrow sharpener. Thank you for the fine work you do.

[@josephdetomaso4610]

Is there anything out there that would work on the Oz Cut Hurricane? Thanks again.

[@michaelschnitzer4054]

This works very well and gets them scary sharp. Even for a novice or beginner sharpener

[@jonjaramillo7656]

Son of a gun... Hes outdone himself again fellas.... Never fails to amaze me the ingenuity behind these sharpeners.... As a proud owner of several.... I can attest to the worth of these simple gadgets.....

[@FISHFANATIC95]

Really impressed with this sharpener! Thank you for making this!

[@-lovefromnh]

I shoot the TOTA XL Solid 125gr heads. I bought their sharpener and wasn't too impressed. This sharper you have invented definitely meets all that I was hoping for! I see in this video description it says this product is available July 18th, 2022 but what is the price? Awesome job on this! Thank you!! Take care and God bless. -Love from NH

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

$58

[@-lovefromnh]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 thank you!

[@garohachigian339]

Ron. Any advice on sharpening the tip of these heads? Maybe a dowel?

[@TheWildPursuit]

Would love to see you do a new updated video in this fashion you do in these new videos with the Magnus Stingers

[@ThumbsMcThumb]

I’ll have my order in ASAP!

[@alexmcdonald3493]

Sir you are a magician, would love to have access to more of your products here in Australia

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

our distributor in Australia is Plus Arrows.

[@africanbornadventures]

Would this work with a Muzzy Trocar HB?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

No, its only for the tooth of the arrow heads.

[@sarcazmo]

When will this be available on the website?

[@-lovefromnh]

Says July 18th in the video description.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

July 18

[@sarcazmo]

@@-lovefromnh whoops my bad thank you

[@cjr4497]

Man, I wish there was something like this for muzzy 4 blades and others. I am getting worn out sharping them on the regular guides for my dad and friends.

[@flintridge9839]

What type of oil should be used to protect it from rust? Sharpener looks great.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

I like wd40 specialist corrosion inhibitor and hornaday one shot but any oil is better than none.

[@frankkalisz7455]

I just received my new F4 kit - thank you - but I have question about last steps of removing burr with the fine grits. I saw that you do alternating back-and-forth strokes to break the micro-burr. But wouldn’t you achieve the same result by only pushing the broadhead forward during regular sharpening strokes (i.e., by not pulling it backwards)?

[@frankkalisz7455]

P.S. - Thank you for the awesome videos!

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

buffing MUST be done with a backwards only stroke as explained in detail in the video.

[@josephdetomaso4610]

Would your sharpening system work on the Oz Cut three blade hurricane and what is the cost? Thank you for your prompt response.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

no, this is ONLY for tooth of the arrow 4 blade heads, it would not work on any 3 blade head.

[@deanmccabe8783]

Could you use a piece of arrow to hold the head during sharpening? Might be quicker n safer not putting the head in and out of the jig many times?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

You can but make it a VERY short piece or you will find that you pump / pivot the head during front to back motion.

[@Sarge43]

Could you do a video on how to sharpen a solid 3 blade deepower broadhead?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

it would exactly like this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHbIqKuAZ6eHi6c

[@stick__shooter]

Do you recommend using the diamond plates dry? How do you prefer to clean them of old metal shavings?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

yes as shown in the video. You can clean the plates with compressed air, a old tooth brush and even tape to pull up what gets trapped.

[@davetoms63]

awesome. one quick question, for in the field touch up, do you just stop to repair the edge from putting a broadhead in and out of quiver?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

yes, that is a good thing to do through the season as quiver dulling is very real if you still use a foam hood quiver.

[@rickyanke9407]

Ok, what happens if I use this one for a Slick Trick 100 magnum? Should create very good results but able to sharpen two bevels at the same time, thus faster than your original Slick Trick sharpener... Yes?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

you would be disappointed. The F4 is ONLY for tooth of the arrow heads.

[@rickyanke9407]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 I'm curious though... the only thing that could really happen is the original bevel degree would be slightly different, right? It would still be sharp.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

@@rickyanke9407 Nope. It would leave an unsharpened portion near the tip because the ferrule for the Tooth of The Arrow head has a wide ferrule before the blades begin so the diamonds are space apart to account for that. Slick tricks dont have that so the head would float side to side with so much room The replaceable blade guide is the far superior option.

[@dfm-jv7ry]

Does this sharpener work for all four blade heads that have two different edges at 180 degrees from each other.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

The F4 guide is meant ONLY for Tooth of the arrow heads.

[@dfm-jv7ry]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 thank you.

[@PatrickBlack-q1n]

Will it sharpen magnus stingers also

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

No, its meant solely for tooth of the arrow heads.

[@clodge631992]

Would this sharpener work for slick trick magnum heads? I know you have a replaceable blade guide for the tricks but just out of curiosity.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

No it would not work of the slick trick

[@rickyanke9407]

Can you explain why it would not work for the ST mag?

[@daverushia6569]

How long would it take to sharpen the total head ? It seems like it would take a l o n g time, too long :(

[@austintaylor497]

What design program did you use in your process of making the hexad?

[@tyhansen8]

Thank you 🙏 take my money

[@camoninja]

What oil do you recommend?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

no oil of any kind. no water either.

[@camoninja]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 you mentioned oiling the heads so they didn't rust...

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

Yes oils the heads but never the diamond sharpening surfaces. All oil will suffice to prevent rusting of the heads.@@camoninja

[@ericriley1648]

I truly don't believe 678 was out of box sharpness. My broadheads bought were rather sharp. Other reviews say the same. They are not super sharp but I believe this was exaggerated.

[@TheRedHandOfVictory]

I have the same broadheads and the same sharpness tester. Due to the four blade design and angle of the blades it is extremely difficult to test the sharpness and not hit the side of the filament holder. I feel mine were sharper than that out of the box but I do believe his test was genuine.

[@daverushia6569]

John Lusk had a much better sharpness reading.

[@FISHFANATIC95]

I bought 4 packs between my wife and I and wasn’t very impressed with the sharpness. Could just be me but this seems like a much better sharpener than the TOTA sharpener. I really dig my broad heads though!

[@yomomma107]

Anybody know if this will work with a qad Exodus broadhead?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

It will not. Its designed for 4 blade TOTA only

[@stick__shooter]

Pricing?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

$58

[@-lovefromnh]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 thank you.

[@stick__shooter]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 I may need to order one. I have a 3d printed sharpener that I use regular stones on that works well for the Tooth of the Arrow heads, but I like the diamond stones.

[@TODinWY]

I wish you had run the sharpness test at the end of every step, 400 through buffing. Good job, though.

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

Here you go. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4DEYX17qZWtaqM

[@MasterofNone365]

How do we get one?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

staysharpguide.com/products/f4-ver-2-dot-0-sharpener

[@MasterofNone365]

@@innovativeoutdoorsman5067 Thank you! Just ordered one!

[@joemisak7925]

Does it sharpen all 8 sides.. ?

[@innovativeoutdoorsman5067]

yes, you sharpen 2 blades (4 edges at a times and then reposition the head for the other 2 blades.

[@joemisak7925]

Yeah it was late when I posted the message.. brain wasn’t on point . I ordered mine today .