More on the Vince McMahon $12 million hush money payments: Wrestling Observer Radio

[@ericroman2403]

Vince has been buying wrestlers for 40 years and buying women for 35 years. THEN. NOW. FOREVER.

[@RKO1988]

Well when you’re married to Linda McMahon…

[@Sougamwthmana]

Don't forget buying the governor of Florida to declare wrestling an essential business during lockdown

[@conciergemarie6981]

@@RKO1988 Well said. LOL

[@alpacapines8553]

Sounds like mediocre tag team

[@RKO1988]

@@Sougamwthmana dude that governor in Florida is so overrated

[@EDorb]

Hearing Dave say "dick pics" wasn't something I expected to hear at 7am.

[@polsdofer]

It's like he's seen them lol

[@daveborder7751]

@@polsdofer Rated them six stars, as Vince accidentally sent them to Dave when he was in the Tokyo Dome.

[@dangerousd1312]

am i wrong for thinking that basically every adult wrestling fan kinda figured this was the case? like every friend i’ve ever talked to in person about wrestling has said “yeah vince is fucked up” in one way or another.

[@celtic69]

He was like this ON screen too

[@ftwsam2246]

I mean he did make out with the divas in front of his wife (storylines imitate life) and plus Chris Jericho once said "Your wrestling personality is your ordinary personality turned up to 11" an overdriven, over exaggerated personality. But Vince went full character and lost himself possibly.

[@greatestguyever]

Illuminati Freemason

[@CannedHam2479]

We all knew Vince was a philanderer, but i thought he had enough discipline to keep it out of the workplace, and to not sexually harrass employees

[@juniorkhomari1850]

Yeah we knew. But the issue is the public perception of wwe to the outside world. Before where people were like "oh wwe is gross, vince is gross" and all that, now some consequences need to follow. Uu cannot be a company thats an advocate for equal treatment for women while at the same time condoning what vince has been doing. This is bad, very very bad.

[@WhipDarling]

Get him out of the company. He was always a sociopath and he’s got progressively worse since the 90’s. Get the whole lot of the crazy McMahons out of there.

[@rriggs6547]

By most accounts, the reason Shane left for years was because of Vince and the way he acted.

[@zemox2534]

Do not forget Vince fired him months ago, not too long after his grandmother passed away If their relationship wasn't strained before it is now

[@TheUnDisputedDoc.G]

Now we need to revisit Ashley Massaro's situation.

[@yoholmes273]

Ashley was a high end hooker prior to being hired by WWE. Just food for thought....

[@neillogan8540]

That’s what made me think about it, she was pushed pretty hard at the time, wasn’t a great wrestler and seems to fit the type he loved his blondes

[@silxix2599]

Quote Christy Hemme: "My departure from WWE was on my own terms because I stuck to my guns on my morals and values as a human being. I knew in my gut that it would be the end, but I also knew that carrying guilt for knowingly doing something against what I believed wasn’t worth getting ahead. Leaving broke my heart … but doing the right thing is something I will always be proud of." (2008 TNA wrestling interview.)

[@boombastic108]

If you're going to copy/paste this to multiple threads at least stop calling her "Christ."

[@Thomas-px2lh]

She gave Vince head against her will?

[@leir2005]

So it was Christy Hemme then sounds like. She fits. Diva search winner, or at the very least diva search competitor. Started out as a wrestler then was moved to backstage interviewer. Eventually released from the company

[@silxix2599]

@@leir2005 She was demoted to train as a wrestler I think in WWE OVW territory, something she was eager to do, before being released just two weeks later.

[@xGodofAcidx]

Glad they mentioned Rita Chatterton because that was exactly what I thought of. This gives her case a tremendous amount of additional credibility.

[@aaron29924]

😂😂

[@Assenayo]

@ny giants fan raider fan statute of limitations is for criminal cases. Lawsuits as well as reputational damage are still fair game.

[@burgerdaveee]

when dave said being a wrestler used to be a way to remain in high school the wwe's history suddenly made sense to me

[@darthbigred22]

Yeah because college really makes you more mature? Not the big name colleges I've met 60 somethings who still party on game day like they're 20 still.

[@john-m8w]

I’ve seen it at the Marriott in late 80s

[@Assenayo]

World Noncing Federation?

[@ashleyramage6958]

The only way anything could be about this is contact WWE Sponsors

[@ashleyramage6958]

Done*

[@Jim-Tuner]

Its the TV networks that matter now rather than the sponsors. Nearly all the WWE money comes from a couple TV deals.

[@rriggs6547]

@@Jim-Tuner And if the sponsors pull out the TV company loses money. That is what they care about so contacting the sponsors is the only sure way to hit WWE.

[@JakeAllonar]

For me, this just continues to make WWE another awful company, with a toxic, and now a proven sexually exploitive place for people to work. Their greed leads them to make choices like taking blood money from human-rights-violating Saudi Royals, mass firings and layoffs throughout the pandemic. The stories about they’re grooming female talent to wear more “provocative” ring attire. And of course, even their booking ideologies that often see so many of the most talented people never get a good run at the top of the card, while telling talent they need to “reach for that brass ring.”

[@Captain_AAhab]

It’s the Old Boys Club mentality. Only problem is, you can’t have this mentality when you’re a publicly traded company

[@ESWShockwave]

It’s a company for people who want to make money. You need touch skin for that. Which is why it’s not for most. It’s cut throat.

[@RKO1988]

This type of thing inhabits every evil billion dollar American corporation unfortunately. Starbucks won’t even let people unionize without breaking a ton of laws

[@RKO1988]

@@Captain_AAhab Most companies keep the good ole boys mentality but it’s just under cover

[@flyguy7825]

I hear what you're saying, but at the same time fans continue to watch it. Fans continue to go to the shows and support the WWE. If people are really sick and tired of seeing this man they have options. One is to stop paying to see their events and stop spending their money on the merchandise but I have a feeling that that's not going to happen.

[@orokusaki8670]

if nothing comes of this it will just prove how irrelevant wrestling is in the grand scheme of things

[@Tormund_Giantsbrain]

There is no way if this was any other billion dollar company other than pro wrestling that Vince would still be holding on to power. It just shows how sleazy the business has been for decades to have created a culture like this.

[@Jubei66666]

This is pretty standard corporate bullshit. Happens in video games all the time. Bobby Kotick is still at Activision.

[@rriggs6547]

It took decades to slowly get rid of much of this same crap from the NFL. I am sure this stuff has been rampant in every professional sport at one time. The difference is a major sport has 30+ teams and so the stuff comes out and can't be contained as easily. Vince has been able to hide most of this stuff away because he has been the only authority for 20 years.

[@mr.mirchenstein6549]

Kinda hard to kick out the guy who owns everything, and has been in his family for the last 100 years. Investors & partners can leave, but only Vince can step down.

[@rriggs6547]

@@mr.mirchenstein6549 True. But if the investors leave and the Networks invoke the morality clause which I am sure is in the contract, then Vince would have nothing over night.

[@calcutlass]

Vince is on his Boris Johnson run right now.

[@GotNoMoneys]

Not surprised……

[@natethenub6595]

I'm not surprised that you're not surprised

[@notthechannel2]

@@natethenub6595 I'm even more surprised 😯

[@CannedHam2479]

I am. Always knew Vince was a philanderer and deviant, but thought he had enough discipline to keep it out of the workplace and not harrass employees

[@cmporkchop4575]

After hearing all this it makes you wonder what really goes on at WWF/WWE over the past 40 years since Vince took over. I remember the storylines with Vince and Trish Status, which were very uncomfortable how he would just open mouth kiss this woman in front of his wife and Trish would have to go along with it cause it was her job. Lita was very uncomfortable doing the live sex angle on Raw that night but, if she didn’t do it she would lose her job. Makes me wonder was their a hidden meaning behind Cm Punk pipebomb promo stating “Vince McMahon and this bullying campaign”? Seems like a lot of people received money to remain silent or they are silent in hopes that they might get a call back to appear on television

[@michaeltracy2725]

Ever hear of Pat Patterson? Jimmy Snuka? This is tame in comparison...

[@rriggs6547]

Remember Vince and Ric Flair are good friends. There is a very long history of violence, abuse and sexual misconduct within wrestling. Anyone who has been a fan for a decade or more has to have been aware of at least the rumors surrounding Vince and WWE.

[@morenathobejane7091]

This decade is about to go down lol. Feels like a pivotal period for wrestling

[@jamesmiller5331]

The government threw their weight into taking him out 30 years ago and failed. Even Dave said in this video that it looks like they'll do nothing. I know incels get angry when they hear about someone getting laid but he literally paid for them to be discreet yo protect his company. That's the story.

[@jamesmiller5331]

@@morenathobejane7091 I meant 'Hey dude that will probably be dead within 5 Years anyway might be forced out of his own company because he was banging broads on his staff and paying them to shut up about it and they didn't shut up about it. Pivitol' I'm sure it's *more* than pivotal to the snowflake fan base pro wrestling has in 2022. People that never built anything, let alone a business, and can't get anyone to touch their little penis.

[@Dr.JeremyDunks]

He's playing crazy. I think he knows he needs to step down, but his ego won't allow it. He wants to be forced out in protest.

[@viciouslysilent]

Like in wrestling I can see that if he's going to lose he wants to lose but still look strong. ...sorry I had to say it. 😂😂😂

[@theonetheonlyjoey]

@ny giants fan raider fan you sound very angry and upset, you don't have to defend vince so hard mate. he's not gonna shag you

[@CannedHam2479]

@ny giants fan raider fan It wont be worth billions if the stock plummets thanks to him refusing to step down!

[@CannedHam2479]

@ny giants fan raider fan "MY PWECIOUS POS VINCE DOESNT ANSWER TO SHAREHOLDERS WHO CAN SELL SELL SELL AND MAKE THE VALUE OF HIS COMPANY PLUMMET DERP!!!!" lmaoooooooooo

[@CannedHam2479]

@ny giants fan raider fan *If Vince DOESNT go away, the stock will plummet There, fixed Netflix CANCELLED its docuseries on Vince..Sponsors will be pulling out soon!!!!

[@spiderjosh9472]

Vince cleverly has everyone convinced if he goes, the wrestling business would be screwed, when in fact its the opposite. Wish the man would get the consequences he deserves

[@juniorkhomari1850]

What dumbasses wwe look like rn for allowing him to consistently come out on television

[@CannedHam2479]

Anyone with an IQ over 100 aint buyin it..Not so clever

[@aaron29924]

😂😂

[@Jim-Tuner]

Given that he owns so much voting stock, its not so easy to push him out. But a scandal like this is one way it can be done.

[@mikedeck8381]

Companies like AEW and WWE are probably on the way out in the next 20 years and probably you end with a modernized version of the territories.

[@vortex_1336]

Christy Hemme. She left around that time and has kind of hinted that she left because she was expected to trade good booking for favors.

[@ArtsyAllAround]

Doubt it was Christy. Christy went to TNA soon after her release. If you’re given 7mil…you’re not going to TNA. My guess is Candice Mitchelle. Why else would Vince give her the title?

[@tjraven]

Vince should go to jail even if just for those stupid f'ing ties he wears

[@TheZackChapman]

“In cases with these predators…” get em big Dave! Get that cough checked out, too.

[@keni95851]

isn't it funny how "big dave" got scooped by real journalists?

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

The kids in the comments like "if this was Tony Khan Dave would sound real different" Bruh if this was Tony Khan Vince would have spent the entire day personally calling every one of their sponsors trying to get them to cancel AEW Stop pretending Vince is some kind of hero or great man... He's the Satan of the industry. He needs to get got already...

[@darkace9194]

Tony Khan would never do disgusting acts like this. Tony Khan is a kind and generous man while Vince admits that he sexually assaults men and women

[@kevinr8579]

Oh look, more Anti WWE Propaganda. Ask yourself this, why would Vince try to kill AEW? He allowed Chris Jericho to appear on the Broken Skull Show. You know a show that's on Peacock, available to the Public, a WWE affiliated show. He allowed an AEW wrestler to appear on a WWE program. No to mention he asked Tony Khan to appear on the John Cena 20 anniversary Jericho, Bryan Danielson, and Big Show to appeared there. So you know before you try to push your agenda, maybe actually look at the facts? You guys need to stop. Wrestling is a fictional sport. Stop taking it so serious, this post is beyond pathetic. Comes across as, "lOOk woRlD iM aNGry"

[@thepolarphantasm2319]

@@kevinr8579 remember the pizza cutter incident? Zero percent chance Vince doesn't throw his back out trying to kill AEW over this shit. And defending a rapist ain't a good look bro, yikes

[@CannedHam2479]

@@kevinr8579 . Dude. Every example you just cited literally helped WWE FAR more than AEW..Think Vince would ever allow a WWE wrestler to appear on Dynamite? lol

[@kingslayer2999]

Oh look an AEW Mark who like the rest of them completely ignores Tony Khans Coke addiction. Tony Khan should not be booking when he is off his face everyday snorting Colombian Marching Powder

[@BroncoKnight34]

What a time to be a fan

[@Krokodilius]

imagine being a fan and realizing your money is going to hush payments.

[@mclovin6039]

@ny giants fan raider fan cope

[@Krokodilius]

ya i don't know wtf it is with morons defending him.

[@ftwsam2246]

@ny giants fan raider fan he still gets paid from the fans...

[@clv735]

​@ny giants fan raider fan where does Vince McMahon, owner of the WWE, get money from?

[@clv735]

​@ny giants fan raider fan ok so you're just trolling then. have at it, I also think it's very funny to be a moron in defense of a serial sexual abuser

[@poolside16190]

11:37-11:38 Never in my life would I thought I would hear Uncle Dave insinuate that Vince is a “predator”😶

[@christiandiaz8512]

With the time-line 04 to being released in 05 it has to be christy hemme plus an interview she did in 08 about leaving on her own terms no doubt it was her that vince did this 2

[@grey_f98]

Dave is right and I've always said this, for a long time (this has changed now), the WWE locker rooms were filled with people that mentally peaked in high school, and it was because of the environment and mentality created by Vince and the type of bullies that became "locker room leaders" back in those days, like Taker.

[@rogerbabin8175]

Yeah its sad to say but I just naturally assume 90% of the people who have been with WWE for a very long time are either terrible human beings or flat out criminals who have yet to be caught. You hear all these horror stories with the talent who were allowed to stay with the company and often came with zero punishment. Ric Flair and the plane ride from hell is a great example I find. Here you have a WWE employee who is comfortable enough AT WORK, surrounded by his employees with his bosses nearby to sexually harass a flight attendant. JR learns of this and is complaisant in act because he suppresses the information and lets Flair get off unscathed. You can't tell me with a straight face that this is the worst behavior Flair ever got into. No one is that brazen and stupid to take a huge risk like that. This is the behavior of someone who trusts those around him will protect him and feels he can get away with just about everything. Flair is a huge name and all but we stories like this with older talent who were not big names. You learn of handlers whose jobs it was to keep these drug addicted mad men alive from week to week...do you think those handlers and their bosses were never witness or aware of anything illegal? There's a joking story of the Randy Orton 'handshake' to new writers. We don't even know if Randy did that exclusively to men (not that it makes it any less of a crime)...so those were people with mundane jobs in the WWE involved in keeping these potential criminal acts silent as early as their first week in the business. This organization is toxic to put it in the most mild way possible.

[@CannedHam2479]

Takers a bully? Since when?

[@kevinr8579]

@@CannedHam2479 he's basing his claim off some hearsay that came out like a few months ago. It went nowhere. Probably wrote his comment for KZbin likes lol

[@CannedHam2479]

@@kevinr8579 Ah ok

[@clv735]

@@kevinr8579 well, Taker being buddies with noted actual neo nazis (Harris twins) certainly helps me believe it. There's also the fact that when he was basically the unquestioned locker room leader, he either encouraged or never stopped dudes like Bob Holly, Benoit & Guerrero (the latter of which considered to be one of the *best* people in wrestling) to engage in hazing & bullying

[@joemoneymondays]

Vince will still come out Monday at Raw. Nothing is going to happen to him

[@marleneann72]

"You know"

[@dangerousd1312]

frankly, i feel like WWE fans probably played a large part in the indy wrestling metoo stuff and that’s why there’s be so little talk about vince getting canceled etc. *edit* not because the people deserved it, but for them to play sides and be petty

[@kennyhaynie3653]

I think about storylines with Trish, Stacy keibler, sable and wonder if those were cases as well. Trish came in during that era.

[@ZombieaidZ]

Kelly Kelly also comes to mind. I heard randy Orton say in a clip from an interview that she was sleeping around. He said Kane was messing around with her. Felt surreal to hear, and he said it so casually. Guess that’s because that’s how the workplace was back there, it was the norm. Hearing that about my then favorite wrestler was jarring. Never forgot about it, even tho I didn’t want to believe it. With all this coming out, it seems to be even more of a possibility

[@daveborder7751]

@@ZombieaidZ There will always be stuff like that-you have in shape people-mostly in their twenties & thirties, wearing very little hanging out all the time. What do people think Johnny Ace wanted when he hired women from soft porn movies, lingerie catalogues, fitness magazines etc? Hot women who looked good on television & that would do sexual stuff for him & Vince & that is clearly what Vince told him he wanted-it isn't like any of them them could work or promo.

[@aaron29924]

Who cares

[@trtx84]

Vince also had the "Kiss My Ass Club" and don't think for one second those wrestlers felt comfortable enough to say no if they didn't want to.

[@johngallagher72]

Dawn Marie actually sued them around that time for being fired while she was pregnant. Might be more to that story than meets the eye. She also had an onscreen affair with Vince. Also Stacy Keibler is MIA

[@tyronespivey1982]

The fall always come from the inside

[@MorrisJoshua26]

I'm convinced Vince doesn't understand what a memory is.

[@williamhild1793]

Did anybody count how many times Dave said "you know" and "like"?

[@christopherb.8465]

I try to listen to Dave but him constantly saying "you know" is intolerable.

[@CannedHam2479]

Kind of funny how the guy who allegedly only eats for "fuel", and hates sneezing doesnt have the discipline to not sexually harrass people that work for him..I guess Ole Vinny Mac doesnt have much self control after all, eh???

[@Jim-Tuner]

Vince would have had no problems at all if he had just paid up-front for what he wanted with his own money. But Vince seems to have a strongarm fetish. I would guess he gets off on the forced aspect. There is no shortage of women who will give him what he wants if he pays for it. And he can pay for it.

[@CannedHam2479]

@@Jim-Tuner Hed have no problems at all other than being a desperate JOHN with no self control/discipline. Id MUCH rather have a sneeze attack than to be so pathetic as to have to resort to paying for sex, Bro

[@neillogan8540]

Maybe the sneezing part is just a control thing?

[@CannedHam2479]

@@neillogan8540 Yet he cant even control his own urges with Women. You see the hypocrisy, Bro??!

[@rriggs6547]

This is where I think you are wrong. It isn't about not having the discipline. He doesn't see anything wrong with what he does. So why be disciplined about it? I am not saying it is right. I just think Vince doesn't think he did anything wrong.

[@michaelfarrow5817]

It's weird because essentially the scandal - and the board - are pitting Vince the Stockholder vs Vince the Stakeholder. If there is an impact or potential impact to the guaranteed revenue, which has propped up the company over the past few years, the board has to do the best by the stockholders. So Vince the Stakeholder, still defacto CEO and head of creative, needs to hit the bricks because the duty of care is owed to Vince the Stockholder. Then, if that's not enough, Vince's assets will probably need to be put into a blind trust to guarantee he has no involvement in operations until the stink can come off and the company, or at least Vince's stock, can be sold.

[@jamesmiller5331]

Finally. Someone that isn't an obvious incel wrestling fan! Probably why your post got no likes, but thank you. Looks to me like they're going to do a holding pattern and see if the stink blows off soon. If sponsors don't complain, they can ease him back in over time. I think that they are terrified that a WWE without Vince McMahon will just crumble... which is justified to an extent but probably a little over stated.

[@anthonyp6823]

There must be people that want to force him out to sell. Why else rock the boat when the company is making record profit, with guaranteed money?

[@michaelfarrow5817]

@@anthonyp6823 In any "normal" publicly traded company, even if he was "the whole business" and owned a chunk of it, he'd still be fired. Look at the Papa John's Pizza guy.

[@anthonyp6823]

@@michaelfarrow5817 I’m not disputing that I’m just surprised it got out to the public to be honest

[@DriversOfLife]

It's a sloppy shop. We have known this, and there is nothing we can do about it until the voices who want to speak up speak up.

[@keni95851]

vince is a rich guy in America, there's nothing anyone can do

[@billshogun7068]

First name that came to mind was BB.She was the blonde ambulance attendant and then she appeared in a few matches and a bikini contest.But she was there in 1999 and not the mid 2000’s but I wouldn’t be shocked if she was one that Vince propositioned.A blonde with big breasts is right up Vince’s alley.

[@smidday15]

From memory BB hooked up with Bob Holly fairly quickly and I was always under the impression that was why they didn’t do anything else with her (she had no actual aptitude as a wrestler and all she really wanted was to hook up with one of the boys anyway)

[@ashleyramage6958]

This has to be the end of Vinnie Mac now.

[@TrueRomance1993]

If it is, it won’t be because he steps down without all the sponsors turning on him. He will fight it until he can’t anymore.

[@dannygoog9654]

Nope

[@mattdanger4045]

If you think this is bad wait until the NDAs from the MALE wrestlers start dropping. Then Vince will actually walk away for real

[@SgtCakes]

Dave says “I knew some of it, but not *all* of it.” Doesn’t that mean Dave sat on knowledge of these payments…for years?

[@alpacapines8553]

Could've been rumors.

[@darthbigred22]

@@alpacapines8553 That's all he reports on anyways

[@Eyeshield11721]

Considering he could’ve been sued to hell on anything he reported knowing WWE’s tendencies to do so, yeah no. Only reason WSJ is doing so is because they get billions in revenue and have an army of lawyers that can defend them if someone like the WWE sues them.

[@primetyme740]

I hate to tell you guys but this won't be the end of it I believe. It's just like a major player in any major league sports. Normally when there's one story there's about 6-7 more to follow. Example look at the Watson Massage Cases and how long this has been going on. Either Vince will step down or I believe alot of the Board will step down. Regardless, I believe it's the end of an era in World Wrestling Entertainment

[@rriggs6547]

I personally think the era ended in 2012 and WWE has been continuing on name and lack of competition only. The last time anything interesting happened over a period of time was the Summer of Punk.

[@loveofsports7096]

There goes the budget, have to release 30 wrestlers!😅😅😅😅

[@mbaC512]

vince weinstein , wouldn't be surprised if there is some connection

[@dangerousd1312]

his pal donald isn’t too far removed

[@benespinosa6725]

This Vince McMahon story just keeps getting more and more crazier with each passing day and I Absolutely love it man this has been the craziest year for wrestling and we got 5 months left until the end of the year.

[@mattheffner6831]

So Vince gave out pictures of the Genetic Jackhammer

[@stevemygoodman7809]

For Vince and the way wrestling was back in the day, 4 women is pretty good. I’m surprised every high up exec or wrestler from the 80s and 90s don’t have hush money payments in their past

[@rriggs6547]

4 who knew they were never going to go back to the WWE, were not scared into submission, and were willing to stand up even after hearing the stories of how other women were treated who spoke up at all. I wouldn't be surprised if we eventually find out he had affairs with dozens of women, many of whom worked for the company in some capacity, and they simply were not willing to say anything until there was a tidal wave of support.

[@stevemygoodman7809]

@@rriggs6547 yea that’s possible too. It’s been either 9 days or 16 days since the first one was public. I’m sure they are talking to a lawyer to see if they should go public so we will know sooner than later

[@ALIAN18]

I’m curious how or why all this started coming out now? Kept under the rug with NDAs until recently.

[@danielberry4765]

A leaker emailed paperwork to the board.

[@Jim-Tuner]

Its obviously something going on inside the company. An important credible insider is talking to the Wall Street Journal reporters. I would guess that there are people inside the company who understand that its time for Vince to go because of age and other things. He will not go and so they leak stuff to force him out.

[@javi__...]

Not to mention that ndas are legally dubious. Is Vince going to sue someone over rape and sexual harassment ndas?

[@rriggs6547]

First, the culture has shifted and sports entertainment is one of the last places being cleaned up. Second, WWE was a monopoly for near 2 decades in the west. If you ticked of Vince, you had no place in the industry. Now there is a legit second company. Young and not nearly as big as WWE, but big enough for people in the business world to see it as actual competition. Third, things were leaked to the press because someone high up in the company wants to make things difficult for Vince. As to the NDA's, not one of the women has spoken out publicly. They are doing their job.

[@luisrizo8813]

What about the Stephanie memoir and the book being written by the authors of the MTV oral history ?

[@trtx84]

"Oral history" taking on a whole new meaning now.

[@luisrizo8813]

@@trtx84 -Sean Oliver

[@scottytechNmore1]

It’s so sad that this is still the world we live in 2022.

[@WilliamMightyRed]

I doubt this is the extent. I wouldnt be surprised if JBL's name comes up. Remember his mysterious and sudden removal from TV.

[@viciouslysilent]

Thinking back that was strange but does or did JBL have or had a backstage role at any point back then? I can't remember but I won't be surprised if he did and took advantage of some liberties.

[@daveborder7751]

JBL only sexually assaults other men in the showers.

[@clarkclarkson3545]

I’m surprised Amy Webber’s name hasn’t come up has she was JBL’s valet but left under suspect circumstances I’m sure in 2005. She was a Diva Search contestant originally.

[@viciouslysilent]

@@clarkclarkson3545 it took about 3 weeks to get here. If the board is doing a thorough investigation up and down they may uncover that and who knows what other stuff no one knew. The plot thickens.. We'll have to wait and see because we are witnessing karma at work.

[@SilverKazuya]

"Vince your Fired", book it God.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

It’s interesting that these reports almost always come out on Fridays.

[@bobbybeard1497]

Murdoch owns both Wall Street Journal and the Fox TV network.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

@@bobbybeard1497 And?

[@rriggs6547]

Most companies do this with potentially bad news. This won't affect stock prices as much until Monday and people have the weekend to digest the info instead of making rash decisions. Just smart business practices.

[@rriggs6547]

@@bobbybeard1497 And what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

[@bobbybeard1497]

@@rriggs6547 just saying it's a coincidence that the two companies share a controlling interest. The newspaper timing the release of the story for the same day it's TV network screens the programming of the guy at the center of the story seems beneficial (ratings bump)

[@CannedHam2479]

Looks like Ted Turner is gonna get the last laugh, Bros!

[@Jim-Tuner]

Ted Turner has dementia and Ted Turner's situation with women was just as complicated as Vinces over the years. Before he got dementia, he had four unofficial wives he was involved with at the same time.

[@CannedHam2479]

@@Jim-Tuner Was Ted ever accussed of sexual harrassment and exposed as dishing out over 10 million in Hush Money? Didnt think so Even with Dementia, Ted is laughin his arse off at Vinny

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@CannedHam2479 The only difference between Ted Turner and Vince McMahon is that Ted Turner paid for everything he wanted up-front. There is no shortage of stories about Ted Turner sleeping with his employees. There was a term for it. They were "nooners". He would take them out to lunch and then do them one after the other. Ted Turner was no saint. But he didn't have Vince's strongarm fetish and he knew how to do things right to keep things quiet.

[@CannedHam2479]

@@Jim-Tuner So basically Ted was smarter and more disciplined than Vince. Dude earned the last laugh

[@gnvtwhp1218]

This kickass storyline will payoff at wrestlemania.

[@laslow1988]

Vince vs. Reality in a Handicap Match

[@BainesMkII]

@20:36 How many other companies seriously try to clean things up? I think about the videogame industry... Bobby Kotick has been bulletproof at Activision, not a surprise when he pretty much filled the board with his friends and cronies, and the company remains profitable enough to satisfy stockholders. Ubisoft saw some prominent names quit right before and after its scandals broke, but allegedly its promises to clean up have been hollow, and Yves Guillemot will seemingly remain in charge as long as he wants to. Randy Pitchford isn't going to leave Gearbox. Etc.

[@BrickFlairMMA]

For someone that pod 12 million in HUSH money here sure isn’t a whole lot of hush going on

[@maqclark]

That's the risk with hush money. Didn't guarantee hush.

[@daveborder7751]

Worked for 16 years.

[@BrickFlairMMA]

@@daveborder7751 12 million is generational shut the fuck up money! I don’t wanna here your great grand kids getting outta pocket unless I give the fkn word first 😂

[@rriggs6547]

Notice not one of the 4 women who were paid have said anything? The money is doing it's job.The leaks came from elsewhere.

[@nrmufc]

Dave "you know like" Meltzer

[@brandoncoit9295]

Hopefully after all this comes crashing down on him he finally gets charged with putting on bad television for the last decade, I wonder how many accidents were caused by people operating devices while watching RAW

[@TheDavidcallow]

Its Christy Hemme.

[@DewlayLomo]

Not Joy Giovanni?

[@infesticon]

Vince is full blown Harvey Weinstein, I mean it's not that surprising.

[@dannygoog9654]

No there a difference

[@hellboy30098]

I kinda hate Dave's "well now it's time mentality" I stopped supporting WWE after harsh treatment of some of the female stars. A lot of them not even good at wrestling being treated terribly on TV. I've known this was the case for YEARS and it just really feels like everyone involved was just like "well Vince will be Vince. Look at all the good things people have to say about him"

[@rriggs6547]

This crap has been known about since the 70's at least. It wasn't acceptable then and he should have been held accountable long ago. I am still not sure he will be now.

[@keeshawnn6741]

Meltzer probably knew for decades, and never reported it.. isn’t that what journalist do right ?

[@rriggs6547]

@ny giants fan raider fan He was also in a position of power over many of the women. It can be seen as coercion. And some of the wording in the latest story implied there was pressure involved. That would be illegal. Of course I don't think he will be held accountable.

[@rriggs6547]

@@keeshawnn6741 Meltzer has brought up rumors and vague stories for years. He didn't have the proof and he isn't really an investigative journalist. He doesn't have the resources to do that.

[@rriggs6547]

@ny giants fan raider fan Most states waive the statute of limitations with regard to sexual crimes. Coercion would be one. Also, if called in to court and put under oath the NDA does not apply. The person would have to tell the truth under oath. So it is possible and has been done that women are able to get to court to get around the NDA. Also, some states have ruled in different circumstances that NDA's do not hold power. Right now, none of the 4 women who have signed NDA's have said anything publicly. And they haven't had to. It is possible this will be the catalyst for other women to come forward who do not have NDA's.

[@FlairVSSavage]

Running creative and being on the board is two different things

[@carboneffect5182]

Every dog has his or her day, even the wealthiest can fall

[@gn0015]

Is Dave alright? He has been coughing a lot these last few weeks.

[@robbiebihari3411]

Eagerly awaiting Vince out, HHH in, everyone celebrating it and completely ignoring Paul's complete complicity in everything going on. In the end wrestling fans just want to enjoy the wrestling they enjoy. It's easy to go after the small time indy wrestler who you don't watch anyways and dislike personally. Bit harder to call out guys like Randy Orton (years of harassment and assault allegations) or Stone Cold (literally a convicted woman beater). That would hurt something you enjoy. So this will pass on the WWE fans side for sure.

[@PaulReed]

Everyone has morals, some lose them when their favourite team / players / people are involved. I've followed some people that made me laugh a lot and seemed like great people until revelations of cheating, being a cnut to people came out. Personally I don't support them but some people deserve a second chance. Vince? No. He's always been this from what I can tell. I still dislike Randy Orton despite his supposed maturing because it doesn't change what he did and I consider some things unforgivable.

[@rriggs6547]

So are you saying HHH may have been involved in some shady things like bullying and so forth himself and turned a blind eye to what was going on? How could I ever believe that?

[@robbiebihari3411]

@@rriggs6547 Never man. Then. Now. Forever. Together. :)

[@mattdanger4045]

Good point. HHH was okay with Vince’s perversity because it benefited him personally

[@johnhess9443]

I'm really starting to wonder about Dave's sources. They usually sound like Dave and say what he would want them to and there's never any news.

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

My question is how did Vince escape the ‘Me Too’ movement? Mad famous people besides Harvey Weinstein got outed, but VKM stayed clean. Welp, we’ll see where this goes….

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

Are we 100% sure Vince was never on the Epstein jet / island??

[@skislope4218]

He signed 12 million dollars in NDAs

[@bludangell]

He paid enough money to various people to keep quiet. That's exactly what this story is all about.

[@onizuka]

He did...the issue is, he paid them to stfu.

[@rriggs6547]

He had total control over the entire industry in the west for 20 years. No place else to go. No one had the ability to speak without being blacklisted from the industry.

[@shaunmynett6552]

Would anyone get away with this in any other company? It’s ridiculous. He has to go.

[@trtx84]

Our former President, and Vince's buddy, got away with over 16 cases. Following the exact same model.

[@Jim-Tuner]

@@trtx84 No. Trump had a very different model. He didn't mess with employees for the most part. He tended nearly always to mess with women who didn't work for him but came near to him. He would mess with reporters, models, people looking for business deals and so on. Trump generally did the smart things for someone in his position. Vince McMahon did every dumb thing on the list.

[@shaunmynett6552]

@@trtx84 Another bully and predator

[@samoanjoseph1457]

I know it's not a good reason to be mad but I'm so mad that these women got high pay-offs for Vince messing with them, meanwhile you have the actual talent putting their bodies on the line that don't make anywhere near that, so you're basically telling them it's a better financial decision to let Vince cop a few feels than to get in the ring and pop the crowds. Now Sunny still being in the HOF makes perfect sense to me.

[@sebsun]

Vince McMahon = Harvey Weinstein

[@Pompey_blue]

They usually get caught out when they're dead. Luckily vince will go on for another 20 years so he's screwed almost certainly as more things surface

[@CSick27]

when its not just booking and ratings, but legit news stories about the wrestling industry, i feel like thats when dave really shines

[@colinhodder6110]

I really hope they just let him off with a warning. A Stern talking to.

[@TrueRomance1993]

Guess when it was all said and done, we misheard No Chance, No Chance in Hell when it was really No Pants, No Pants At All.

[@debking3064]

The rumors was sable in 2004 then Brock stole her then Brock left and she was let go

[@linsithebe7080]

Remember when Vince used to handout money in the crowd, easier times

[@TheGodOfGravy]

I'm not trying to dismiss these claims at all, but does hush money have a receipt? Like surely if you can literally prove you received the money wouldn't that be the nail in the coffin?

[@rickhaavisto9023]

Well, a NDA is like a contract, so I imagine that counts as a receipt

[@Dementia55372]

I'm sure that discussing the payments in any capacity would be violating the NDA

[@Jim-Tuner]

Vince has to cooperate with the board of directors investigation. The NDAs don't matter from that point of view. If he refused to cooperate with the investigation or lied to the people doing the investigation, he would be in even more seriously trouble.

[@topgunner6999]

Just remember Meltzer didn't know anything until WSJ put it out. We can see who the real journalists are.

[@grimacemcdonald1]

I’m sure he knew about some stuff but it’s typical journalism- career first. Dave was probably on the payroll

[@th3seek3r60]

Dave is not a journalist He's just an analyst with connections within wrestling companies

[@skislope4218]

wrestling observer doesn't employ investigative journalists

[@KinchStalker]

Even dirtsheets are access journalism

[@jakeinator722]

There are more important issues to address here and that's what you focus on? Which is the more reputable journalist? Read the room, dude. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[@EmoEmu]

Well... let's look at the positive side of this. Christy Hemme will never have to work a day in her life again.

[@brokencompass7332]

Considering the timing of everything with Charlotte Flair and Ric Flair I have a hunch that Ric Flair let this out

[@celtic69]

What’s the Charlotte situation?

[@Yamah12a]

@@celtic69 they've been sleeping with each other.

[@celtic69]

@@Yamah12a WHAT

[@Yamah12a]

@ny giants fan raider fan another cell and you could become a plant.

[@CannedHam2479]

Ric Flairs not shrews enough to br behind this..Now Conrad Thompson??

[@aaronjohnson1771]

Now things are making sense....the release of wrestlers to save money to pay hush money and according to Ember Moon, Vince and Johnny Ace wanted the females to start getting more revealing attire

[@normaningemann3868]

Am I the only one who thinks Vince buried Rusev and Killer Kross because he couldn't sleep with there wives?

[@Ivan_xx]

Poor Christy Hemme 😞

[@polsdofer]

Is that who it was?

[@jpsweeney6833]

I was trying to suss who it was too

[@darkace9194]

@ny giants fan raider fan he deserved to be blackmailed.

[@mattheffner6831]

Just say Court Bauer. That has to be the writer

[@PhantomFTW.]

This AEW Rampage⚡was INCREDIBLE! Konosuke & Eddie was so HARD hitting, Gresham turning heel and joining Tully, I could watch Martinez 3 times a day, Orange is so over and knows how to work comedy into a match. Only a Sexual Predator like Vince McMahon could hate this AEW Rampage⚡

[@EDorb]

Is this really the appropriate video to post this on?

[@santanu-fr]

Sexual Predator vs Apex Predator next WM. Better than Lesnar Reigns.

[@janematthews9087]

@@EDorb It's a bot just ignore it.

[@CannedHam2479]

Lol. Bazinga!!!

[@CannedHam2479]

@@EDorb It was funny AF, Bro. Lighten up, Francis!

[@CEJRAID]

Oh no. Dave’s cough is back…

[@Crism-y1m]

You know, you know, you know, you know... no I dont know thats why Im watching a video on it.

[@MADGUNSMONSTER]

And if you ain’t down with that I got two words for you: EVA MARIE

[@omegaman6494]

Vince will be in the dole queue alongside ex UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson soon enough......

[@daveborder7751]

Yes, sure a billionaire & a multi-millionaire will have to sign on.

[@Lyricaldeamin]

Give few examples or potential candidates

[@Marc816]

Vince = good old boy!!!! He'd be a great US president!!!!

[@TheFourFats]

ya know

[@andrewclayterman6230]

hoooop hoooop hooop hoooop... hack hack hack

[@mattdanger4045]

Wait until Kidman starts talking 👀

[@888YouCantHandle]

Time to go McMahon family

[@Krispen_Wah]

The government needs to finally do shit... I think in the last few decades WWE has raised so many red flags that they can't ignore them anymore. They need to pick this place apart piece by piece. Pretty sure so much more dirt would be uncovered.

[@andrewbowyer5043]

How long before some illegitimate kids come out of the woodwork? He maybe an evil genius and a madman but even the most evil geniuses make a slip up now and then

[@djohns808]

Genetic Jackhammer

[@andrewbowyer5043]

@@djohns808 with balls the size of grapefruits

[@daveborder7751]

Could be the father of various Divas kids.

[@ALIAN18]

Hornswoggle

[@richardwolcott5567]

It would be great if Vince got arrested at ring side.

[@Jay-sy5yf]

Side note: judging by the thumbnail picture, Vince has been injecting his testosterone and growth hormone into his left ear!

[@ashleychase8918]

Names PLZ