Ported vs Horn... the differences simply explained.

Explaining the pros and cons of both types of enclosures...

[@davidlynch1576]

Can we get a demo of the horn enclosure?

[@imod1993]

Could you make a video about designing a horn enclosure and hints for the build. Thanks a lot, my compliments for your Channel

[@CompactAudiodesigns]

That u not going and see

[@stevenball7375]

Lol

[@Jamez84]

Cerwin Vega has a ton of horn designs online. They made a bunch for movie theatres while pioneering subwoofers for the first time. They did this for the movie earthquake in the 70s. The theatres back then didn't have subwoofers and Cerwin Vega made thousands of subwoofers with boxes and delivered with those Earthquake films.

[@CabinetmanJeremy]

Lol this is the exact video you asking for. And 64 likes lmao. He's even telling you how to tune the horn VS schematics of subwoofer sd. I can't believe this comment 😂😂

[@cadeo517]

Can it be made with the speaker hole on the bottom

[@BigHeinen]

One of the best explanations I've heard on the diff's between horn loaded enclosure and ported bass reflex enclosure. I salute you sir!

[@daveruston1354]

Very informative video, thanks for the clear description of the effects of t line vs horn loading. Im building a custom couch with a built in sub and im going to horn load it. Great work bro 👍

[@bobsyouruncle8052]

you do great work been building boxes for 30 years was 17 when i started alot of people dont understand how the right box makes all the difference keep up the good work

[@sanveersookdawe]

I would love to see what this looks like on the inside. I've tried for a few days now to see a similar build to this with no luck. Would really appreciate if you could make more videos on this

[@csj9619]

You explained both enclosures not only accurately, but simply and concisely. (Moreso than anyone else I've heard) There's so much bad info, inflated specs and misinformed people in car audio, that hearing someone knowledgeable discourse on the subject is refreshing. Nice craftsmanship too, btw.

[@jsnezy8288]

Now that explains dem horns, thanks mang, great explanation! 🙌🏾

[@josephmuniz9959]

I can't get over your boxes. Dude you have a real talent for this and being so preticulur about how and what your boxes look and sound like, says a lot about you. I want one of your boxes so bad. Please please make blueprints I would love to build one.

[@nickhorton296]

Preticulur 🤣

[@earlmullet7628]

Wish I knew that much about Soundwaves and box building. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@staffmoto4939]

By far the best explanation I've ever heard on port vs horn enclosures! Sub'd! (no pun intended :o)

[@KICKER-AUDIO]

Droppin knowledge. Great work sir, keep at it!

[@M.B.Enclosures]

Thanks

[@recursive_dream]

Very solid video, thorough explanation. Keep posting more!

[@RobertJeffersonBased]

I have a 4.7 cube box with 100 sq. inches of port area for a single 12". It was an experiment and worked quite well. Thanks for the explanation. I am planning on a box experiment using the principles of a "loading wall" and kind of a horn too for a more venue/stage show oriented subwoofer box.

[@jasonnull2248]

Great channel. I really like your content and knowledge level. Future customer.

[@Dmack434]

Whats up MB! So what about these different order enclosure? Like when they say 4th order or 5th order? Can you give some insight on these type of enclosures? Man I remember when I first subscribed you only had 100 some subscribers and now look at you! I'm proud to have watched you on your journey and thank you again for helping me! Much love !

[@treydean1751]

The man is pure genius, master of his craft and he has the ability to the complex and make it simple to the point anyone can understand clearly. Keep up the good work and I will be contacting you for my truck box.

[@marcelinoafanador6378]

How do you decide if the woofer is good for a horn enclosure?

[@surreaLinnovatioN]

Easiest way to say it is: Dont use cheap, mass produced, or low end speakers. We're one of the few companies that build speakers FOR horns and Tlines.

[@thomasschafer7268]

Look for the beyma 15G450N. His Parameter are the optimum for hornenclosure

[@thomascrill2842]

I don’t know we’re to start you seem to be a well verse individual but your statement of Cerwin Vega and Yamaha is out right wrong. Klips horns and JBL were the founding fathers of the horn principles you can even say Thomas Edison with his‘s first phonograph and the horn he used to play that sound was unique within its self. Besides let Yamaha keep making motorcycles and Cerwin Vega stick to car audio.

[@arturozarate1752]

GREAT information in your video. Your wood working skills seem at par to your knowledge of horn loading. You gained a subscriber. I agree with you on 8's! I'm yet to try 6's though. Your thoughts horn loading?

[@BlenderRookie]

The graph on a horn enclosure looks similar to a sealed enclosure. But typically it's a little more efficient. Or at least that's been my experience.

[@fiolds350]

Best explanation yet best.

[@GP-fc7jv]

Back in the day there is what they call it the Klipsch horn I had one for a little while it was really old pretty amazing too

[@MrBigR928]

You got the gift bruh👍🏾

[@phillipbach4124]

Which do you like better?

[@kevinchatten4411]

Klipsch was the master of horns

[@Dr_Xyzt]

BudgetBassHead did a video that displayed a 5th order enclosure. You made a very useful point about ported boxes controlling woofer excursion using tuning. Would you consider it reasonable to use the port cross section to make a horn based on the port instead of the driver?

[@P.Adams626]

This is the same science applied to the old line of Klipsch home audio speakers. A lot of people run systems on literally a few watts.

[@denisbasshead7787]

And dont forget 33hz tune always is the best 💣

[@fishrrelaxing9361]

Ok question though.. because of the lack of back pressure doesn’t it limit the power handling of the sub? In a simplistic form it’s more like a free air in these terms. I’ve never messed around with horns but it would seem to me that you would want the resonance wall as close to the back of the speakers as possible wo loosing cooling so that you can maintain responsiveness of said speaker on kick drum bass as well adding whatever momentary back pressure you can to keep the speaker from bottoming out.. I’m I correct in this thinking?

[@Jamez84]

No, subs won't act like a free air in a folded horn design. A good way to describe it is a ported box where the ports long and narrows the closer to the woofer it gets. One of the biggest concepts in a folded horn design is that as the air get closer to the speaker in the port. The port size reduces increasing the air velocity, this increase in airspeed and is what makes the speaker efficiency increase. Just like a ported box, folded horns are usually tuned to the subs FS. But they will give you a frequency response more like a sealed box, but louder and more efficient. A good example of a horn design with little input and lots of output is the Tuba.

[@sermac3246]

Great information like always.👍

[@michelbergeron3596]

Hey buddy I have two 12in p3 I tryed to put in a little bigger box speakers sound loose and not as much bass why it is only a few in bigger I will show you pic also my amp is a t1000-1bd

[@JosephMorganMedia]

Question im Trying to setup a System in my chevy spark (small hatch). and am curious to what might be better for Solid SPL levels. Should I Go horn or Ported? Im wanting a single 18", I know it will take up most of the car lol, if i can even get it in there, ill go 15" if not. Unless someone thinks a 15 might be better anyways?

[@TimpBizkit]

Because these enclosures are equivalent in size, I'm not sure how much more efficient the horn will be for these examples. The horn may skew its efficiency towards the upper bass, and of course some enclosures get closer to the Hoffman - Iron ideal than others. The horn will usually trade compactness for efficiency, as it takes a lot of space to fit that expanding port, particularly when you get to mouth sizes beyond a meter squared to properly support the lowest notes at high efficiency. In smaller "horns" you end up with a flared port or bass pipe design, which might have a wider bandwidth and has some advantages of each type. Usually in a given size constraint, the ported will play louder on the lowest notes. The advantage of a horn is being able to gain efficiency over a broader range, whereas if you simply make a ported box larger, it will become a 1 note wonder unless you install a more efficient speaker.

[@stevemaniaci4750]

Very well explained thank you tim

[@MrBarry138]

This man is magic.

[@rawbasicrawbasic]

Horn enclosures better known as Scoops DJs have been using this for years

[@gsxroyce256]

Does the horn need to be the right length to be set on the quarter wave length?

[@johnnycorn7225]

First off this is the best channel yet about enclosures I've encountered and delivery of ideas. 💯 Good. I just bought three 12-in stereo integrity SQL 12 s and I'm going with a horn loaded front firing sealed off from trunk enclosure that faces the 3 12s like this if you were looking at them overhead \_/. The chamber they're firing into is MDF on top and bottom of these three enclosures, reinforced. Each sealed in .8 cubic feet for a QTC that's tight and accurate. I was going to go with a front firing sealed off from trunk ported enclosure, with the aero ports ran up through the rear deck loading onto the glass. However,I've always preferred that thump and projection ability with accuracy that the horn produces.

[@dominiqueorr6108]

Whats the overal length of the dual 8inch horn enclosure

[@Mid-SouthbullyKamp]

34L 16.5W 10.5H

[@1280spoon]

1 of the best KZbin channels that breaks everything down to the nitty gritty

[@shawnbrooks8271]

Thank you for the video. Question: for HF Mid/Sub Bassbox; 80-250,300 hertz range. Your thoughts on enclosure design in my van. All sizes and shapes welcomed from your experience to hit those frequencies best.

[@bpintogsxr1000]

I was always curious on what clubs and concerts used for boxes. Thanks man 👍🏻

[@TimpBizkit]

Often double 18s nowadays because you can pack more in a lorry. If you need to drive 2 lorries to get the same output from horn subwoofers, then any efficiency gains are negated by the inefficiencies of 2 trucks vs one. If the venue has a low power supply and the subwoofers can be permanently installed, then you get more out of the horns, and spend less on drivers, though more on cabinet woodwork. Double 18s are good at concentrating bass for space, though Danley Tapped horns are probably doing even better nowadays. I've also found 6th order can gain quite a bit in the upper passband for only being 50% larger than a vented box, and that's without increasing the amp power. I did my birthday party in a village hall and had substantial output from 2 12" subwoofers on 600 watts though only turned up about "40% loudness" which actually gives not 240 watts but just 30, for you need disproportionately more power to get slightly louder, psychologically speaking. By placing them both side by side and facing into a corner at close proximity - far more than I would have had placing one in front of each mid/high stand on the same amplifier. The rig fitted in a Citroen C2 and slammed and got pretty low too.

[@nnperformance76]

Exactly 💯

[@Riskybusinessss]

This was great thanks man

[@massivehertz3869]

Great video learned alot!

[@tolgadabbagh1877]

man i little bit less accent can make it easier to understand your videos for foreign speakers of english . thx for the video .

[@jordancouncil5583]

Dropping knowledge for us. Thank you for your videos.

[@aziamisrael4152]

Hello again my brother I heard you say a horn enclosure isn't for every speaker can one be built for a DS18 15" HIGH excursion 4000 watt Max XMAXX subwoofer if so please let me know till then be safe be careful be blessed Bro. MB ✊🏿👑

[@JakeWuntaq]

What program or calculations do you use to design your horn enclosures?

[@raymary2343]

I finally get it thanks to the way you explain it. Cheers mate

[@marksanders7305]

How to build a Horn Enclosure for a Kicker L7 15” sub ?

[@erikbritz8095]

How can i calculate the tunning for a horn enclosure i might want to do it for my DD715 cause i use it as my home audio sub

[@cabguy007]

So a horn port for 2/8 will make it sound like a pair of 12s a single 12 a single 15 what would you rate it as soundwise instead of a regular port ? Curious because I have four American Bass vfl 8's and I'm wondering if it'll sound louder or just as loud as 2 15's in a horn box versus a normal ported box

[@JodyNugent-t3z]

Don’t know if anyone else has ever had this experience but you saying you prefer larger port areas, I had a 15” sub in a 2”ported box when I was in high school, I was moving so much air through the port that it would at times actually whistle and the smaller the port area the longer it needs to be to tune for lower frequencies

[@gsd321123gh]

Can you get as low with a horn

[@johnnycorn7225]

So is the chamber behind the sub hole sealed and then fires into the folded horn walls on this design?

[@Noneyurbusiness]

Man this dude knows his s*** about speaker boxes

[@julianjennings4638]

Design elements and internal shape? Thank you for your time and knowledge.

[@izaakavenaluckyss1933]

I wanna learn to make a horn enclosure 😎👍can you make a tutorial on how to make one?

[@J2A61]

So the horn would work great on say a golf cart ???

[@albertoperez6746]

I feel like u described a tline or transmission line enclosure

[@Bezzle.]

If the ported enclosure gets higher meter results, at what point would a ported pass the horn enclosure in spl? Can you still feed a sub max rms wattage in a horn?

[@dominicwickham5034]

do you make subwoofer boxes if you do what area you from I'm from Ohio

[@DRXxUziixX95]

Horn is 3rd order ported is 4th order the compression chamber in the ported enclosure takes it up to 4th order

[@prometheusjae6532]

How do i reach out to u , im in nyc got 2 12 avatars stu , i would love a horn enclosure for my ford explorer .. hit me back

[@shawnbrooks8271]

I apologize if you have already made a video covering my questions. Im is new to your channel.

[@gocart09]

8:45 Would this be like comparing a four-stroke engine to a 2-stroke engine lol

[@gatesopenmedia]

Where do we go to have you make a box for us?

[@kenniswilliams182]

Make a video demonstrating both 12" boxes....

[@djndoe1ianrabbetts796]

Cerwin Vega also in particular. 18s carry their sound

[@austing8133]

What box do u suggest for bed of a buggy im running 2 kicker cvr 12s

[@cheddarshredder6572]

Brother. Deffinantly dont keep it simple. Knowledge is power!

[@twanmontford]

I’m so glad you remembered everything i taught you Myron bruh lol. Proud of you homie.

[@topnotchcontent]

Nice job. I'd like a horn box for two Meso 8s.

[@RajunCajun1]

Will a horn enclosure with 2 8 inch subs hit the lows that you like M.B.?

[@rojobenavidez2658]

thank you for make it simple

[@jimthvac100]

It would be nice to see a graph comparing the two. I use WINISD a lot but I don't recall it having an option for horn loaded woofers. I dont know of any that does? so what is the best type of speaker for a horn loaded woofer? would it be one that also works for an open baffle?

[@gwlewis73]

Awesome explanation I need that two 8 box for my 2018 accord how can some one get in touch with you

[@manospgs6280]

can anyone explain me the bigger the duckt the lower the hz or the opposite?

[@scottfloyd489]

Certain vega earthquake dj subs are horn enclosures

[@DaSpecimenFL]

U got a sub bc of this video! No pun intended btw. LoL!

[@thomaswalton9089]

Your channel is underrated I learn a lot from you

[@Renrondog]

this man knows his design criteria, If you build with Baltic Birch (yes more expensive ply) they will not need as much bracing and you will find you can use thinner ply with the same cabinet stiffness. Charge more for a better product. Your explanation is spot on and the language is suitable for most lay people who don't build speakers from scratch. :) Excellent video and boxes. Nice double baffle on the 8" box good job.

[@GregoryMalcolm-s8t]

Do you make box on order? If yes. How can I contact you?

[@BigRonJ77]

Can you do a sealed box as well as a push/pull (Isobaric) box? Thank you!

[@meiraiden5902]

I have a question, How do you get rid of those annoying resonances from a horn enclosure?

[@michaelgarner2318]

Hi bro love ur videos Keep it up

[@bigfoot131]

This is really really nice damn bruh so detailed! I always thought the horn was predominantly used for large open spaces, I’ve never seen one mounted in any type of car. Seems like it’s way better and efficient than the ported.

[@audiogman5865]

Man Whatjutalkinboutwillis?

[@ratrodo3113]

Could you build a box for 1 DC audio xl 10 dual 2 ohm? Can’t find specific specs for port area. Specs for box volume say 1 cu ft ported. I’ve heard this sub likes a lot of port. I emailed dc audio for more specs about an aero port and all they told me was a 4” port tuned at 34-35hz. I’m not opposed to going with a slot port, it’s in a box right now 1 cu ft with 14” of port area kerf ported, and there’s definitely some port noise. Let me know. Thanks for your time and keep up the great videos and information.

[@seventythreex2513]

You have to be absolutely the Best my G. Never heard it explained like this. I took carpentry in high school just too make boxes for Suzuki Samurai jeeps & Broncos.. you make me wanna get back into the Craft. Peace 73X

[@EmotionRadio]

So for a Ford F-150 super crew, dual 8 inch setup, a horn enclosure would be best? Or rear facing port?

[@JasonMontell2501]

Good shit bro

[@raulfernandez9111]

That's not ported.. it's vented.

[@tysonk5434]

How much are the 10in horn box?

[@brianpatterson8978]

Is the horn built on the same principle as the T-line?

[@lunam7249]

no

[@BeRAd427]

yo. i got 2 x 15 inch Kicker L7's on a Skar 2500.1D in an equinox and it just doesn't do what i want it to. I'm overdriving these subs. the amp is seeing 15 volts with extra batteries and welding cables big 3 and power. so the amp is putting out like 3000 watts @ 1 ohm (which is my final). the box is 12 cubes ported tuned to 33hz. and it's just not loud like it should be. I'd be very interested in one of your box designs given vehicle and power, if you would so kindly be obliged. thank you if you've read this far. - my electrical is a 300 amp alternator with a stock battery and a 170 pound AGM dry cell. (it's a battery that's used for powering towers and arrays when the power goes out, 1100CCA) I got a rockford 10 farad cap installed but i electrically deleted it because i figured that i have more than enough power. but a new box and that hybrid cap might be the answer that I am looking for. yes. the stereo blurs your vision. but with this build and these components, a casual shouldnt be able to even sit in this vehicle. it just isn't that punch or kick to the face or chest that it should be. and there's no hair trick in sight.

[@markuskask9472]

Can i use pressure woofer or sq woofer with hornbox?

[@kevinmclovenyourwife4761]

I have 2 10 inch Rockford Fosgate power series what do u suggest type of box for it Its in regular simple box now with small round ports it's not all that yet I have 750 Rockford Fosgate ampl mono on it as well

[@sza2562]

What kid of language is that?