Fabiano Caruana ranks Indian chess prodigies | C-Squared Podcast

[@mayuracharya2610]

Fabi is just way too intelligent. Very level headed and doesn’t jump to conclusions!

[@sskgrs]

Arjun is the most consistent. Pragg is the only one who has the most confidence playing super GMs and has the most potential as Fabi pointed out.

[@savagehalt1555]

Gukesh might be the dark horse here

[@thesarasohrabi]

@@savagehalt1555 Yes but Nihal is the white Tiger

[@savagehalt1555]

@@thesarasohrabi Wh- that doesn't even mean anything

[@thesarasohrabi]

@@savagehalt1555 In Pokemon terms white tiger is the evolution of dark horse 😏

[@zhuoluochenzhuoluochen]

@@savagehalt1555 aged incredibly

[@swagatamghosh94]

Listening to Fabi speak about anything is almost cathartic. So level headed and so calm.

[@rajeshv9549]

Absolutely spot on! For this reason he is one of my most favorite Chess players!! Right at the top!

[@hanshansen1990]

I follow more stuff where he talks, like this or hes analyse of game. More than hes actual games

[@chelibile]

I agree with him a little but the away his speaks puts me to sleep

[@HarishKini]

I am glad he mentioned Arjun. He gets the least footage among the 4, while Pragg gets the most. Of course chess is so unpredictable that even Caruana might get it wrong, but I am happy for the confidence boost Erigaisi is going to get from this

[@nishantsingh7453]

I would Gukesh gets the least footage he only came into highlight after olympiad

[@Leventk903]

Yeah gukesh gets least footage

[@goelarna]

The first time I heard about gukesh was the kid who doesn't use engine. Arjun has been in the limelight since tata steel. Pragg actually became famous when he was about to be the youngest gm and couldn't make it by a few months. Nihal I think is the most famous tho

[@dheeraj7440]

Pragg deserves it.

[@Mrcoolagainbuzy]

@@nishantsingh7453 Not anymore :D

[@cskwillreturn2473]

If you are watching this after 11 months where both Arjun and Pragg put up an epic fight in the current world cup, you would know how far Fabi sees in to the future. Pragg even went on to defeat him in the semis so he knows that even his mortality is also inevitable from this younger generation, especially this stream of stormy Indian prodigies

[@pabelhernandez6186]

Pragg was lucky beating Arjun. Arjun was who made big mistakes. On the other side, Gukesh was the only who brought hard battle to Magnus. Also Gukesh is indian no. 1 classical.

[@ammarkhan7371]

​​@@pabelhernandez6186yk what others haven't seen and he did it he won the candidates🤧🤧

[@Jacob99174]

India won the Chess World Cup 🎉

[@97007jeff]

Here after Gukesh won the candidates. Man no one even betted on him then!

[@Fe-ironman]

obviously because that time was 1year ago and these kids change fast cause they still teenagers and learning fast

[@DDKKAY]

00:05 It was recorded st August 2021 . Gukesh won Candidates April 2024, like 3 Years difference

[@Rbrnrntbetntybet]

I always did because he was youngest among them all and now I am very proud. Even when few months ago his rating declined from 2750s to 2720 I still rooted for him. 🥹

[@Youboremenow]

@@DDKKAY wtf, so gukesh was 14 and this point in time... This is just depressing....

[@darkhound007]

​@@Youboremenowand he only first got into chess when he was 7...then five years later grand master already and next five years candidate winner...some talent

[@sskgrs]

Pragg hardly played rating tournaments last 2 years. if he played as much tournaments as others did last 2 years, he would be around 2730 easily.

[@unkown753]

Easily....... Nah.. Lots of hardwork

[@sambasivan_m]

@@unkown753 all of them work very hard.

[@hsemarubab]

He played Dubai open and he got 3rd

[@DKMRFCBrlz]

Look at him now, not only for 2 years

[@arunarvind7195]

And now winning over Hikaru and Fabi

[@doublegameghy1684]

Nihal is next level,, he is more tactical player and adoptive in every risky position rather playing already prepared line.

[@vanapalliprashanth7521]

arjuns consistency makes him different from others in the list he doesnt lose games that easyly , he fights till the end most importantly he is good in all the three formats . but its hard to say who makes to the top out of these youngsters , im happy if any of these becomes the world chmp one day . i hope everyone of these ypoung guns makes into top 10 soon and show the world what they are capable of

[@sambasivan_m]

in classical format, they mostly loose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun. arjun rarely do that, and he did that against arvind in dubai open. he had a chance to draw. Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw; he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw. after that game, pragg became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options. so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses.

[@sambasivan_m]

@@vipulgupta true. even pragg need to learn to accept draws instead of risking and ending up losing the game.

[@sambasivan_m]

@@vipulgupta arvind chitambaram seems to be as good. had he got a chance to play in olympiad, am sure he would have done as good as pragg or gukesh. he is also good in blitz...

[@sambasivan_m]

@@vipulgupta very unfortunate! probably, he didnt get good sponsors i guess, like pragg. gukesh is kind of well to do family i guess. may b arvind is not so... and such situations, forces one to pursue normal careers in which he may not be brilliant as he is in chess. I think people like sagar (CBI) should have spoken to him, and could have persuaded him to be in competetive chess, as otherwise, inspite of so many players, coaches etc, if none of them help such a player in times of lack of focus, whats the use?

[@sambasivan_m]

@@vipulgupta yes, i saw that interview too. sagar himself mentions that he was like a prodigy some ten years back... sometimes, one may not wish to express such matters. anyway, still he is only 22 and can do well.

[@VishalReddy-wr8yv]

Caruana calculation was spot on beyond chess as well. 24-OCT-2024 arjun crossed 2800 on live ratings 🎉😊

[@sushilganesh07]

Arjun Erigaisi is curremtly the most consistent among youngesters. For Gukesh, I think in couple of ywats he will be virtually unbeaten.

[@udayanjoshi2691]

aged like fine wine

[@zestureedits]

Bro is a time traveller

[@varunjain496]

Hmmmmmm…. Coming here after GD won the WCC and I don’t even know how to react

[@ChincyJatt]

​​@@udayanjoshi2691talking about gukesh is aged Well ,your mother also not look like kendel Jenner,so tell this shity statements to your aged mom Not world champion 🇮🇳 gukesh.

[@LR-jv2zd]

Wow, this is so interesting looking at after Gukesh winning the candidates! Great insights from Fabi!

[@smbicsystem4791]

Damn fabi was almost right.. now in sep 2024 Arjun is almost 2797 & gukesh 2794 Pragg is around 2746, he needs to step up.

[@meerak90]

Gukesh's hot streak took him right to being World Champion! Quite the streak.

[@TyrannosaurusCHEX]

Erigaisi is also on a hot streak right now, he might not be the first Indian world champion but he can still chase Magnus highest rating

[@sciencific3692]

Fabi never forgets the draw by nihal with him grand swiss and win by arjun in blitz against him .

[@satheesht]

Also when you play against someone you'll do your homework about playing style from previous games etc which gives him good insight. Top level chess (top 10-15) iam guessing would be very different for our young players than they have faced so far as others will be better prepared. All the best to them, definitely hoping one of them to be a world champion some day like Fabi said.

[@igormakarski563]

Nihal was totally lost in this game

[@rachit6366]

Oh yes, I remember that one at the Grand Swiss. Round 2 was it?

[@igormakarski563]

@@rachit6366 something like that

[@MannanGoel]

@@rachit6366 Yep. Nihal managed a draw out of a losing position

[@yusref5021]

I feel very happy that Caruana also think same like me. Arjun also is my favorite among them. And also my second Pragnanandha. They are all great though

[@sid6327]

03:50 - Fabi predicted Gukesh's world championship win

[@zentrox852]

also arjun reaching 2800 first was spot on

[@arul_alexander]

the last line by Caruana- " I wouldn't say Pragg is a top player but he might be some day soon" and 11 months later, Caruana loses to Pragg in World cup semi finals

[@mustafa6543]

Arjun be like: bhot maja aa riya hai, dil garden garden ho riya hai😅😅 But to be very honest, it's impossible to pick one amoung this 4-5 All are just tooooooo good

[@ritikhans372]

Hahahaha true

[@ritikhans372]

Having those words from 3rd highest rated player in world is good

[@TheUnrulyMonster]

For you ,not for top players

[@fcubic]

Great to see this after Pragg's effort at the World Championship. Onwards!

[@lijosebastian8167]

In classical chess,nihal is very solid player.He is unbeaten in last 50+ matches.very solid ,but 60- 70% of these matches end up in draw.Which is why he stuck in the late 2600's. In general if he is playing in your team ,he will guarantee minimum a draw (half points) in all games.But a slow progress in his individual rating. I wish he will play more agreesive in classical,rather than playing for draw.Thats the difference between his classical and blitz rating.

[@rapist_Muhammad]

He's Anish giri of the lot in the Indian youngsters

[@Chess_Bruh]

I Personally feel that among Arjun Nihal Pragg and Gukesh...Arjun has great understanding of the the game...His play style is Universal

[@neweins8864]

Pragg would be the one, he would turn into a grinding machine, winning most of his games due to endgame power.

[@mraravindchannel7294]

Spot on.. here he is in final with magnus

[@DDKKAY]

00:05 It was recorded at August 2021, and Gukesh won the Candidates April 2024 like 3 Years difference 4:31 ranking them

[@ninadambade]

He said August 21st. The year was 2022.

[@raziqvengasseri1949]

Most probably Gukesh will come at the top because he dare to play complicated positions. His results might be inconsistent in coming years although he is training his mind in such a way that to play any complicated position, this would make him super stronger than anyone calculate

[@ADliver4430]

Well my friend You were right even more than you thought

[@sravanthch2879]

Great prediction, how did you sense it?

[@adityasingh3963]

What a prediction! Here after he becomes the youngest ever candidates winner.

[@lemarkexyz2931]

Nailed it

[@Fe-ironman]

@@sravanthch2879 even more great prediction as of now

[@zschokks5583]

After 2 years, Fabi got it right about the first one reaching 2800 but Gukesh became World Champion ;-)

[@ranjithkumar2405]

3:50 Gukesh 👑

[@anime_vibes_563]

If pragg work on his pressure management or feel more confident before the match then I'm dead sure that he can beat anyone in the world

[@DatavisionPurvank]

Well, he is beating everyone

[@stephaniehale946]

*This aged well. Pragg defeated Caruana at the Chess World Cup.*

[@pravarp]

not really I guess, Gukesh won the candidates

[@Sid.R2]

Both were different tournaments buddy ​@@pravarp

[@Michael-yb7jh]

@@Sid.R2 One matters just a tiny bit more than the other

[@ss87344]

Chacha time bhi dekhlo comments ke ​@@pravarp

[@ammarkhan7371]

​@@ss87344yahi toh irony thi ki this aged well iykyk gukesh ko sbse low rkha tha but he did something unimaginable

[@ujjwal10]

Fabi's analysis of Indian players is head on! 🔥

[@soumyamajumdar9932]

4:20 . Fabi called it.

[@shivakumargk3992]

Congratulations to Gukesh and India winning the world championship ❤❤❤

[@Mrfchy]

Imagine picking Arjun over pragg and Gukesh in 2 year ago to reach 2800! Impressive

[@NightWing-z1f]

4:27 Fabiano : his chess is incredible captions : his chest is incredible 💀

[@UrChessDreamz]

Everybody talks about Arjun, Gukesh, Nihal and Pragg...even Rounak, Leon etc...These guyz a very strong, no doubt....BUT Aravindh Chidambaram is equally strong but never gets deserved appreciation...rather he has been the most neglected player among all these talks, discussions about Indian young talents in Chess...probably in a yr or two, he should start to get deserved limelight...

[@Chess_Bruh]

He didn't get the spot light because he is not aged below 20...But I agree that he is a strong player

[@UrChessDreamz]

@@Chess_Bruh true....but hez not tht old too...hez just 23...and if one looks at his performance in last yr or two, u will see hw strong he is...even in recent Dubai open, recent rapid and blitz championship where many of these young champs wr also a part of, he grabbed a gold..

[@gayatrins7818]

Similar case in SL Narayanan. He is also from same era as Aravind chithambaram. SLN is in top10 Indian list still you hear very less about him

[@ArkoRay]

You enter the 2700 bracket and everyone will take notice or otherwise just beat Magnus Carlsen a few times and even the Prime Minister will talk about you. 😀

[@Vishnu-qz1rk]

It's not just Christian's podcast, Fabi is also a co-owner of it and not just a guest. Please fix the description. Hence, C-Squared. :)

[@regalalien]

Agreed. It would be a bigger draw if Fabi got top billing.

[@pratikb8131]

According to Fabi: Arjun> Pragg> Gukesh According to Me(ik no one cares/asked about my opinion): Pragg> Arjun > Gukesh

[@Anonymous-8080]

According to me : Gukesh > Pragg > Arjun > Vidit

[@sidk5244]

Hmmmm

[@Anonymous-8080]

Here after Gukesh won

[@liszt85]

"I wouldn't say he's a top player, but someday soon" -- and 11 months later, here we are. Pragg has just beaten Fabi to set up a finale with Magnus at the World Cup!

[@pranjalrevankar]

I am watching this podcast after pragg forced tiebreaks with Fabiano in FIDE worldcup semifinals

[@souparnoadhikari8796]

I'm here after he beat Fabi

[@manishmohapatra8320]

Arjun looks like a proper prospect to challenge that 2800 make Idk Gukesh where he beat top class player but also looses to 2560-2620 ordinary players

[@varrnitjaiswal1484]

2560-2620 are not ordinary players. On a good day they can upset really strong players.

[@dhi1083]

If I remember rightly, he lost on time despite having good positions..?

[@marcox1185]

Its funny how now in the worlds cup hes gotta play one of the two of erigaisi and prag to face in the semifinals

[@utubevenky]

Fabi is very clarity personified,level headed.His sooth saying has become a reality now (2797).

[@ruthwikpala130]

Now gukesh won the candidates Congratulations to him🎉

[@deviprasad_bal]

4:29 , the captions says "his chest is incredible"

[@hsemarubab]

Pragg is better in Rapid Nihal is better in Blitz Gukesh is better in Classical Arjun Erigaisi - better in every format 🔥🔥😀

[@ilangovane]

Potential wise Pragg is better than every one

[@kshitij3209]

@@ilangovane ya in some games he is a beasts but in some he blunders.if he can work on that he would be stronger

[@sambasivan_m]

rapid vs blitz what diff?

[@sambasivan_m]

only time will tell who remains most consistent. as of now, all of them look good.

[@sambasivan_m]

@@kshitij3209 they mostly loose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun. arjun rarely do that, he did that against arvind in dubai open. Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw; he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw. after that game, he became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options. so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses.

[@Neodynium.the_permanent_magnet]

Just curious, where was the recording made? The cicadas have a strong voice!

[@holeesheet8582]

Fabi can start his own podcast... He is just too pleasant to listen to

[@sanjumonradhakrishnan9629]

Now in FIDE World Cup, Pragg managed to go past both Arjun and Fabi to eventually end up as Runner just short of Magnus.. That's some incredible feat ❤

[@PankajKumar-em7sb]

Am watching it in 2024. I am impressed how good analysis caruana did. Definitely arjun aregiesi is almost near to 2800

[@Himansh25]

Exactly one year after, on 21 August 2023, Praggnanandhaa beats Caruana to book a place in the FIDE World Cup Final against Magnus Carlsen. Insane!

[@redox_3363]

Also fabi bet him when needed in candidate

[@Lol-qy1dy]

Though Arjun,Gukesh,Pragg are top favourites, I will bet on Nihal

[@sushilganesh07]

I think, Nihal needs to work on his health to go further. He looks very weak and frail. He needs good training and diet regime. Chesswise, he has the best understanding among youngsters. But we all kmow the importance of phyaicial fitness in chess.

[@rajenderreddyjannapally3069]

@@sushilganesh07 considering what instances , did you say he has the best understanding , i guess all four have really good understanding but its hard to say one is above the rest...

[@jethalalgada1132]

@@rajenderreddyjannapally3069 Nihal is unbeaten is his last 50+ Classical games.

[@huehue_hue]

@@jethalalgada1132 wow really?

[@rajenderreddyjannapally3069]

@@jethalalgada1132 nihal lost once and won 20 times in last 50 games ... Loss came against muradli mohammad Arjun won 23 times and lost 3 times in his last 50 games Gukesh lost 10 times and won 25 times . Pragg has won 33 games and lost 2 Although point to be considered both gukesh and arjun played relatively higher rated opponents.

[@icradifailansh2488]

2:01 🤣🤣🤣 he said who is gonna to take the cherry 🤣🤣🤣

[@sathishpoojari6365]

Yes , chess is too volatile..result is Gukesh😂😂

[@jyotiradityamishra5495]

Gukesh very hot streak is still very much going..

[@MrKwixset]

looking at this today, he was totally correct.

[@Hyperion1722]

His analysis i not aging well though it is tough to predict who could do well in years ahead as it is up to the each of the player push for more training.

[@stedqt]

Gukesh proved to be top top player again n again , 8/9

[@bakchod586]

wow fabi predicted 2 years ago and now its proved. wow fabi good intelect

[@halliluyahh]

Why is everyone glazing Fabi ? His order was completely wrong apart from Sarin 😅😂

[@palfeb31987]

Fabi is just brilliant with his views and insights about these prodigies having played against some of them... But in terms of winning world championships in any format or reaching 2800 i believe it would be Arjun, Gukesh, Nihal, Pragg in that order.

[@santanugayen3846]

This aged well!

[@kartikeyg2396]

And Gukesh is now world champion

[@vcuheel1464]

Are there dozens of cicada in the studio?

[@pranjalrevankar]

I am back here again after prag beat Fabiano in the finals😭😭

[@Againmike33]

Now all of them are top players and Gukesh might become World champ this year

[@drashokkumar9209]

All these four are superb/extraordinary chess players . But they are still evolving and learning . Therefore , it may be impossible to make predictions . But I am happy that so many of Indian players are being discussed by one of the top chess experts .

[@synchronium24]

Gukesh: The chess speaks for itself.

[@aaraar3869]

Fabi is always calm never excited on the board and off board.

[@hituldesai7174]

Erigaisi 2800, Gukesh World champion. Crazy

[@blackman7186]

Why are there Cicada sounds in the background?

[@satyabratadash8435]

Even magun told gukesh is the strongest classical player now. I m waiting for gukesh to be the world champion in near future

[@ashutosmisraa]

jai jagannath bhaina sata hei gala katha

[@saikat93ify]

I’m here after Gukesh won the Candidates

[@piyushjain195]

Fabi was just too accurate about his judgement . He chose Arjun for 2800 which is exactly what has happened and Gukesh proving himself by giving consistent top performance as Fabi said

[@naveendennis]

Need a follow up interview after the semi finals

[@MaharshiRay]

2 years later post the olympiads '24, Arjun is leading the pack with just 3 Elo away from 2800 (just having overtaken Fabi) with Gukesh at 2794. Very likely Fabi's prediction will come true.

[@gauravagarwal3270]

It came true

[@pabelhernandez6186]

Bro arjun has 21, prag 19, gukesh 18. Arjun still needs to prove himself in top elite tournaments as magnus has said. We will see him in tata steel next month

[@MaharshiRay]

@@pabelhernandez6186 You did not see the video at all, did you? :D Go check at 4:00 mark, they were ranking these players on who would reach 2800 ELO and in which order (not overall best player or World championship title etc). Arjun with a published rating of 2801 has already proven that Fabi was right.

[@pabelhernandez6186]

@@MaharshiRay ??? I did. It seems you didnt understand. It wasnt a objection, it was an addition.

[@MaharshiRay]

​@@pabelhernandez6186 My apologies.

[@blackman7186]

Almost an year later and Gukesh is now world's top 7

[@afbdreds]

and prag is worldcup semi finalist

[@arun-it9gr]

​@@afbdredsthough he took down Hikaru, he didn't have to face Carlsen.. gukesh unlucky that way

[@spark5010]

@@arun-it9gr Now he is in Finals

[@kunalsingh4418]

​@@spark5010and now Gukesh won the freaking candidates

[@anuraglamichhane1733]

11 months to the future and then Pragnanandha knocks out Fabi from the World Cup Semifinals. 😉😜😝. Good prediction Fabi. PS: Gukesh seems to have clinched the Top player title with a 2758 rating and World number 8

[@harishnetam502]

I would also pick Arjun he's balanced b/w all 3 format

[@bhargavdamor3604]

After the one year of time frame with his potential Pragg beats Fabi In Semi final of world Championship🏆 ❤

[@TheBorinken]

Excellent work by two excellent people.

[@VijayKumar-cg9uc]

Who’s here after Prag’s win today?🎉❤😊

[@PravESHo101]

Gukesh is like a small cap stock which turned out to be a multibagger, and noone saw that coming not magnus not fabi.

[@satishkumar77]

fabiona is very intelligent and his views are close to fact,

[@etutlf4176]

Given the numbers, I suspect it is only a matter of time that Indians will occupy most of the top positions. Money was a factor before but not so much now. So statistically the odds are in favor of the Indians.

[@borisbalson1904]

Why do you have holes in your trousers. This looks very disrespectful. Fabi was very good, agreeing to answer your questions

[@alphav8763]

Attendance- After Gukesh won the candidates ❤

[@jayanthravindran2994]

Arjun 2800 was spot on

[@aneeshv8025]

I will bet on Nihal ❤️

[@deepayanbardhan911]

Why put the loud noise in the background? its not there in the original video :-/

[@sushilganesh07]

I think, Nihal needs to work on his health to go further. He looks very weak and frail. He needs good training and diet regime. Chesswise, he has the best understanding among youngsters. But we all kmow the importance of phyaicial fitness in chess.

[@JunaidHasan23]

Fabi interviewed by Djokovic?

[@sambasivan_m]

though all of them are good., we will come to know probably, in couple of years, how consistent they are and where they would be standing. in classical format, they mostly lose as they dont wish to go for a draw, except arjun. arjun rarely do that, and he did that against arvind in dubai open. he had a chance to draw. Pragg lost his game in dubai open, when he attempted to go for a win, even though he knew he may loose. he had the chance to go for a draw; he said it in the interview , exact position which he would have played if he wished a draw. after that game, pragg became more cautious. next couple of games, he drew, avoiding such risk taking options. so, its more to do with their wanting to win always, they learn from their losses. in rapid/blitz chess, i think all of them are good, they may occasionally loose if opponent(may be in top 10 - 15) plays great..

[@MannanGoel]

Nihal is a very solid and consistent player. His rise would be slow but I believe he can churn draws out of a 2600 player too and a 2800 player too

[@HarishKini]

it's not 'loose'. It's 'lose'. Loose is the opposite of tight, and lose is the opposite of win.

[@sambasivan_m]

@@HarishKini error while typing. thnks.

[@adi2587]

By some day soon he meant 08/21/2023

[@krishnm_jagadgurum]

HE PICKED THE RIGHT GUY.ARJUN YET TO DELIVER A BIG WIN n SHOCK THE FETRNITY.HAS POTENTIAL. HOPE HE WILL SOON.

[@briliantinoprihandikakhari6754]

any rankings or tierlist made by Fabi seems to be legit

[@monkeydluffy4067]

Pragg defeated caruana today is semi finals Tomorrow he goes against magnus in finals❤

[@bhashuvbr]

I hope arjun breaks into top 10 in all formats by 2023 n go onto become world champion from india after vishy .

[@anindyaganguly5243]

Well...after all this...Guki is Candidates Winner. Hail King Guki ❤❤

[@anishsrivastava7467]

Arjun Erigaisi. Just remember this name!!

[@anonymous0114]

It's sad to see nihal fall down the ladder🥲 but i am sure he will be right back in the conversation soon

[@anuraglamichhane1733]

Nihal didn't fall; he has only improved and gained rating. It's just that others climbed past him insanely fast.

[@MannanGoel]

@@anuraglamichhane1733 Not really. He had a pretty bad slump this year. We expected him to be 2700 by now in Sec/Oct 2021 but he didn't earn significant rating this year

[@anuraglamichhane1733]

@@MannanGoel Not really what? His rating has fallen? When? I never talked about your expectations, but it's a fact that he's not lost rating, only gained. The rating he has right now is his current peak.

[@MannanGoel]

@@anuraglamichhane1733 Courtesy the month of September. He has only lost net rating from January to August. Only that one Bundesliga game against Shakhriyar was the highlight of those months Wish you reply to this with the same passion you had in your previous reply. Little info is more dangerous than none.