Fabricating Bollards on an expedition boat - Project Brupeg Ep.373

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@richardhunter6452
@richardhunter6452 2 ай бұрын
Bits are on ships .... bollards are on the Quayside...maybe the Navy will be able to teach you some proper nautical terminology
@jaygee5693
@jaygee5693 2 ай бұрын
Away with your pedantry! Bitts on ships are more commonly referred to as "bitt bollards", or "double-bitt bollards" (aka "double-horn bollards") as Damien built here. They are also MOST commonly referred to as just "bollards".
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
No no fair point. To remove any confusion we shall hereby be referring to the front boat tie up horns as string antlers
@jerryrigsit5400
@jerryrigsit5400 2 ай бұрын
​@@ProjectBrupeg😂😂
@kiwi_welltraveled4375
@kiwi_welltraveled4375 2 ай бұрын
What about calling them The tieee upee thingees
@rexmyers991
@rexmyers991 2 ай бұрын
That poor cat. I don’t think kitty likes a nautical home, but, that’s where the humans who feed me are.
@ProjectCrystalJane
@ProjectCrystalJane 2 ай бұрын
Great to see her in the water!
@tomrawlings9758
@tomrawlings9758 2 ай бұрын
Good answer 😊
@robinbennett5994
@robinbennett5994 2 ай бұрын
You should make a little 'Brupeg' stencil to spray paint your logo on those pink shirts, to make an official uniform.
@locksnkeys
@locksnkeys 2 ай бұрын
Jess it's good to see you looking so well. I know looks are not the full story but I wish you both the very best 😊
@freemanjackmsiradio
@freemanjackmsiradio 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely certain the 'front wont fall off' 🙃
@bishopkinlyside8477
@bishopkinlyside8477 2 ай бұрын
Hi Damo and Jess once again a fantastic video , wonderful, I see Jess up and about again. Hopefully Jess doesn’t hurt as self again , I was just wondering do you ever hear from Dango Stu from downstairs south. I don’t see his videos up any more. used to be fantastic fantastic videos from an old trawler. I think you got another job anyway keep up the good work guys always enjoy your videos Cliff from Logan City Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 we are on the big island
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Hi Cliff, we stopped having anything to do with Stu a few years back so we dont know what he is up to these days. Dame
@shanewilson5248
@shanewilson5248 2 ай бұрын
hey Damo, never felt the need to offer any advice and this is only my opinion ,but the front bollard should be capable of supporting a tow in heavy seas . i reckon a redesign might be in order. cheers
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
If we were ever to need a tow I honestly think we would lash around the winch. That thing has a monsterous steel web we welded under the deck. It would easily be ten times stronger than this bollard
@ontic2354
@ontic2354 2 ай бұрын
I’m all for masochistic welding in the wind, but I’ve not seen a single weld here that I wouldn’t rather do with MIG. Why are you not using MIG for rough structural stuff like this? A compact MIG with some stainless and carbon steel rolls, and even, throw in some rolls of aluminium and bronze as well. Great to see so much progress.
@saltydawg1793
@saltydawg1793 2 ай бұрын
I like the cap you had on the port bow bollard which is a bit wider than the bollard post. Why have you not considered that arrangement for all bollards. I think it adds a bit of security against a working wrap accidentally flipping off (think high seas and possibly frantic deckhand activity).
@dcallan812
@dcallan812 2 ай бұрын
Great update 2x👍 I googled sounding and it made my eyes water 👀😱🤣🤣🤣
@BillyBob38846
@BillyBob38846 2 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe that Brupeg is finally doing what it's been built to do over the last 10 year's of hard work. Congratulations on a great job yall have done and all the entertainment you have given to all your subscribers like me who has watched what yall have done over the last few year's I've watched and I've enjoyed it so much. Thanks so much for bringing me along on this amazing experience experience and say hello to all those Navy Cadets from this US Navy Vet. Have a great week and I'll catch you on the next video. 👍
@rickswanberg4995
@rickswanberg4995 2 ай бұрын
At some point you might want to think about forward scanning sonar. Garmin makes a nice unit that attaches to a regular depth sounder/gps plotter. Don't know if your system has a similar option.
@codemonkey2k5
@codemonkey2k5 2 ай бұрын
It goes without saying that you two should be very proud of what Brupeg has become. Great job to the both of you and all who were involved in her restoration.
@GlennHudson-b4o
@GlennHudson-b4o 2 ай бұрын
Thank you both for the work you have done to Brupeg and the Australian Naval Cadets. I’m 60 years old but I was also a Naval Cadet and served 20 years in the Navy. Teach em young and they will be respectful young adults.⚓️
2 ай бұрын
Nice wirk. Regarding the crane motor, why not use a hydraulic motor? Put a T and a cutoff valve at the supply of the anchor winch and run hoses from there. Should last much longer than an electric motor. You could probably also supply the hydralic cylinder, that you have to manually operate now as well that way, if it is rated for the same pressure.
@jbprospector3638
@jbprospector3638 2 ай бұрын
Another awesome video, so excited for you guys. 👍😎
@grimreaper6112
@grimreaper6112 2 ай бұрын
Its a very capable vessel being a trawler but be good to see it in some rough stuff at sea.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Definitely. That’s next with the sea trials
@TD_YT066
@TD_YT066 2 ай бұрын
Awesome to see Brupeg transition into a working/teaching boat, congrats.
@raptorheli2
@raptorheli2 2 ай бұрын
looks great, would probably have done removable stabs though due to size for transport?
@robfaith6029
@robfaith6029 2 ай бұрын
As your building an expedition vessel how many cabins for the scientific personnel you intend to cater for and when will you be supplying a laboratory for their research.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
The plan is initially we will focus on projects that can use Brupeg as she is, but we do plan to do some additions when we are in a location that is suitable for the interior rebuild
@simonhantler8062
@simonhantler8062 2 ай бұрын
you putting more beef into the front bollard? reckon that's enough ?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
It’s plenty aye. It’s heavy wall pipe on a 16mm stainless plate with 10mm gussets
@williamhenderson9535
@williamhenderson9535 2 ай бұрын
Something to use when polishing your stainless steel is a copper wire wheel if you have them in Australia. Thew work great but wear down a little sooner. Just an idea.
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj 2 ай бұрын
They also leave tons of contamination on the surface of the metal. If you spray it down with acid it will turn green as it eats the material away.
@kiwi_welltraveled4375
@kiwi_welltraveled4375 2 ай бұрын
Excellent bollards, particularly the sharp-end double ones, they'll be perfect for leaning against when you're steaming along with Jess in your arms and her arms spread like she's flying........ Omg, I think I'm going to make myself sick 🤮 I've never watched that movie, and I never intend too! Far too soppy for me. Great to see you up and about, Jess. Given the way you're throwing those tools around the the ribs are all better. But of course, this was filmed a week or so ago, so hopefully you're even better now. Back to the bollards, they look pretty standard, not over engineered at all. Should we be worried....... Oh, I forgot the most important thing....... Bring back the closing theme song! Please 🙏🏽
@craigwadey2122
@craigwadey2122 2 ай бұрын
When i first saw the pink shirts, first thought was you had escaped from a meeting. Then i realized it was because of the sun ( arms and back of the next especially) So nice to see the progress on brupeg, you have done well
@morgananderson9647
@morgananderson9647 2 ай бұрын
@Brupeg Crew- It was amazing how great the engine room/work bench looked all cleaned up! Must have been like the dream you've always envisioned for your now elegant working lady. (the other lady, Jess has an altogether different elegance...) ??? Are there any plans for a future review of how the new electrical power system is functioning since final install? Maybe in a day-to-day operations - dockside & sea deployed? PS- Congrats on all your wonderful work! It's very inspiring!
@simonhantler8062
@simonhantler8062 2 ай бұрын
op shop shirts. im a tradie in nz and always wear long sleeve op shop shirts. on site a few of the tradies have cottoned (pun) onto the source and we have a laugh saying each day "who ya wearing?" "pierre Cardin mate"
@darrylnelson6264
@darrylnelson6264 2 ай бұрын
The boat has come a long way. You guys should be proud.
@kiwigurn
@kiwigurn 2 ай бұрын
Looking spiffy!
@clairepapadatos1116
@clairepapadatos1116 2 ай бұрын
Hello my darlings! I've missed a bit (ill health😡), but am soooo glad to see you all, and Brupeg again! How are you doing? (apart from the boat?) The new 'sofa crew', Tommi the rescue dog and Amber the rescue cat, are fine, (we had contact years ago about our beloved dog/cat 'family')! I'm just so proud that you've continued with Brupeg! All love and best wishes, Claire and co, Berlin ❤️❤️❤️💕
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Claire, fantastic to hear from you
@rogpen81
@rogpen81 2 ай бұрын
I think I would fit a 100 or 150 mm plate in between, and at the base of the uprights, would help to avoid side ways distortion, Just a thought.
@artshaw6962
@artshaw6962 2 ай бұрын
Don't cut the old bollard off the bow. It can be used to relocate the jib crane to the opposite side of the bow in the event it is needed over there.
@-AV8R-
@-AV8R- 2 ай бұрын
Maybe you should keep the old starboard side front tie down in case you are docked on the starboard side and need to switch the crane to that side.
@randyhome1544
@randyhome1544 2 ай бұрын
You mean the right side? You can tie a rope to it. 😃
@rictecilder
@rictecilder 2 ай бұрын
Great video, hope that plasma cutter still works well after a couple months at sea. Good shake down of the systems while at a dock that you can work at.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Had it onboard for over a year. Same with the welder
@Gordon_L
@Gordon_L 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg To be fair , he said "at sea" . On the hard or dockside is not at sea .
@JamesBond-xq3tw
@JamesBond-xq3tw 2 ай бұрын
Give the cadets brasso ,polish all your stainless ,mirror finish
@tas32engineering
@tas32engineering 2 ай бұрын
Lifting procedures are a great way to start with young crew, very poor preamble when I first started. Dont talk about injuries just preventative. As young people need the message planted in the head before they do things. Overhead pulleys are handy. Derrick crane can lift big weights. Most trawlers have something similiar. Good thinking of fire system. The true test is out past the breakwater wiith young crew & a 10- 15 day journey. Diiving bottles a giggling as the ocean swell nudges brepeg to the deep blue sea.
@ronaldharmon9891
@ronaldharmon9891 2 ай бұрын
I think Dame used cRaZy GLUE on the bow Bollard that's why he covered it in the TOP SECRET cloth, he thinks we're stupid!😂
@DuncanMargetts
@DuncanMargetts 2 ай бұрын
"Plasmaring".. I learnt a new verb today.
@garyjackson6311
@garyjackson6311 2 ай бұрын
Just a crazy idea, mount an out bord on to a frame which your crane can lower into water over bow and set so it pushes you around. Ideas come but I couldn't design to save myself
@saltydawg1793
@saltydawg1793 2 ай бұрын
Consider that the bow bollard (I think we called them bitts in my seagoing) will potentially need to be able to take the strain of being towed in heavy seas.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
We did think about this. If we need to tow we would feel the line in the bow roller, through the new bollard at deck level and around the anchor winch as that has a steel webbing under the deck almost a meter square.
@saltydawg1793
@saltydawg1793 2 ай бұрын
​@@ProjectBrupeg That sounds good. In the US Navy we take the towing vessel's towing hawser bitter end aboard the disabled vessel and shackle it to the end of our anchor chain which is then veered out a couple of hundred feet to end up with a good catenary allowing the towing vessel to use more power while still keeping the towing hawser and chain from exiting the water (very bad) in seas. Think large shock absorber. I commanded a US Navy fleet tug in the 1970s (205 feet long, 69 man crew), and we had a 2" diameter plow steel tow wire spooled up on a towing engine (think gigantic automatic tension winch), but you can't always expect that sort of vessel to tow you in an emergency, and so the catenary trick is a necessary bit of knowledge when the other guy has only fiber to drag you with.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Yip, that makes perfect sense. No reason we couldn’t tow from the chain providing we still have it onboard… we have around a ton of chain so plenty of shock absorbing potential there.
@saltydawg1793
@saltydawg1793 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg Being prepared with proper shackles is half the battle. Hope you never need 'em!
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
@saltydawg1793 absolutely fair point. I’ll add them to the supplies list before we push off
@PerAbich
@PerAbich 2 ай бұрын
I am surprised how many feet you found in the water. 😂
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
They were everywhere. Still it is a big body of water
@LadyDewBuild
@LadyDewBuild 2 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff as always! And good on ya (practicing my down under speak) for hosting and training the cadets. My boat (Dragonfly) is only 57’ but I would put my forward cleat against yours any day ;)
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
a cleat off if you will
@dennisash7221
@dennisash7221 2 ай бұрын
I am curious, would it not have been a super exercise for the cadets to map the depths next to the dock for you? Also are there any cadets doing engineering as their major, they should be there helping you make these bollards that would have been super experience for them they would learn heaps from you. I have to point out that it is an unwritten law that you have to paint first before welding again so that you can grind the paint off. I cannot remember if it is Sod's Law of repainting or Murphy's law of the expansion of work.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Hi Dennis, yeah we did offer for cadets to work alongside however its current school holidays and most of them are now away etc. They have a couple of Cadets doing Marine Engineering and we have offered them time working on the engine (we have a small oil leak on the tappet covers and want to reset the tappet and injector clearance while we have the top open, as well as some work on the prop shaft alignment (its out and we found the imperial to metric adapter is machined wrong) but its proving really hard to line up time outside of school holidays.
@dennisash7221
@dennisash7221 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg Makes sense that you did offer, pity that they were not able to find the time, working with you guys on the boat would be 100x more beneficial than reading a book, the things you guys are doing and could teach them are invaluable. I remember when I was much younger I had an opportunity to learn from a very experienced guy in the printing trade, I spent every spare moment I had learning from him and still use that knowledge today, you can holiday another time but spending time learning now is a one time opportunity. I guess different generations are somewhat different in their approach to life, we have to accept that. PS I am learning from watching, if I were younger I would be volunteering for sure.
@jasontomins97
@jasontomins97 2 ай бұрын
If u ever need to do more sounding I can bring my boat out and use my garmin sounder with 9 inch screen
@jossmaxwell00
@jossmaxwell00 2 ай бұрын
Bollards! It's all about the bollads. You can never have enough bollards on a vessel.
@jamesmutter2989
@jamesmutter2989 2 ай бұрын
You can't have a bollard on a boat!! It's a quay side thing!! Bollards
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
And yet we built a bunch of them and welded them to the deck.
@geoffhaylock6848
@geoffhaylock6848 2 ай бұрын
God forbid you would ever have to, but what points would Brupeg get towed from?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Line would come through the bow roller and then loop around the anchor winch. That thing has a massive steel web welded. Under the deck, it’s at least ten times stronger than the bollard and something we wouldn’t be able to break
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 2 ай бұрын
Bothers me that you have to use manual winches at sea. I'm sure the Navy has ways .. but then their budget isn't food scraps.... Wishing for better solutions.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
For us it’s about maintaining the gear. Electric or hydraulic winches are great but costly and need constant work to keep top shape. This crane is used very infrequently these days so it’s not value for money having electric or hydraulic on this crane. A small manual winch is all that’s needed and extremely easy to maintain, ever in a very exposed location
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg Great. You're not in need .
@keithchad661
@keithchad661 2 ай бұрын
full time job put paint on grind paint off put more paint on
@pegasusnglowe7713
@pegasusnglowe7713 2 ай бұрын
i hope you did that at the low trie and high trie as well so you no you get out day or night
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Low only. If we won’t hit at low tide we definitely won’t hit at high tide
@JohnSmith-kz7rd
@JohnSmith-kz7rd 2 ай бұрын
what happened to the outro music?
@jrmilchling9215
@jrmilchling9215 2 ай бұрын
the why files theme music
@TrulyUnfortunate
@TrulyUnfortunate 2 ай бұрын
Uh....that green wheel is meant to grind carbide.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
It does. And everything else. I know I know never use your tungsten wheel for anything else but this is a boat with a bench grinder, most bots don’t get that luxury so it does more than one job and tungsten’s still TIG nice after using it.
@tomrawlings9758
@tomrawlings9758 2 ай бұрын
I probably missed the episode, but why didn't you install a bow thruster?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Because we were short the 25 grand it would take to fit one.
@LadyDewBuild
@LadyDewBuild 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg LMMFAO well said, now lets talk go fund me...
@jordanrelkey
@jordanrelkey 2 ай бұрын
That's easy to say, hard to do. A massive $ cost. Extensive structural & mechanical re-engineering. And Dame would need to cut apart and weld the entire bow back together all over again.
@morgananderson9647
@morgananderson9647 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg - Hopefully someday... (with a sponsoring company that will significantly reduce the painful cost of that item!)
@jimcalver-oj4xf
@jimcalver-oj4xf 2 ай бұрын
I've also found, for our boat, using WD40 on all the stainless bits periodically, wiping on with a wd40 wet rag, keeps the rust monster away. No more polish in use here.
@JamesBond-xq3tw
@JamesBond-xq3tw 2 ай бұрын
Don’t cut the ,Front bollard ,would make a great seat base ,whalevwatching ,filming
@pmacgowan
@pmacgowan 2 ай бұрын
Why are you guys not using metric ? and you guys need to install bow thrusters ?
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
We use whatever it easiest in any given situation. As for a bow thruster we are ever so slightly short of the 25 grand it would cost to fit one to Brupeg. That said, she did 50yrs without one just using skipper skill, we feel we can manage the same for a while
@pmacgowan
@pmacgowan 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg I would donate $10 for a bow thruster :-)
@bloodyslatts1452
@bloodyslatts1452 2 ай бұрын
Let’s see now. For all intents and purposes let’s not go any lower than a 32nd of an inch. Abbreviations, 1’ =1 foot 1”=1 inch So 32 32nd to an inch, 12 inches to a foot 36” or 3’ to a yard, 22 yards to a chain (the official length of a cricket pitch), 10 links to a chain, so that’s 2.2 yards… 5280’ to a mile or 1760 yards to a mile, unless we’re talking nautical mile which is more useful because I minute of arc along a meridian of longitude = 1 nautical mile and 60 nautical miles =1degree of latitude which makes measuring off distances on a marine chart easy, but then 6076.12’ to a nautical mile… oh, and the nautical mile shrinks a bit the further North or South of the equator you go due to the Earth being an oblate spheroid. I could do this all night but my wife won’t let me. She says I’ll be cranky in the morning if I don’t get my sleep. Count yourselves lucky. And I'm not donating a cewnt towards a bow thruster. Use the prop walk Luke
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj 2 ай бұрын
I recently built a small automatic tubing sander for sanding the outside of round tubing in a circular pattern. It uses a 6" flap wheel of sand paper or scotch brite
@markjennings2315
@markjennings2315 2 ай бұрын
Cats getting brave, I bet its happy not to be in Ohio
@mr.c2809
@mr.c2809 2 ай бұрын
put a harpoon gun on the other bollard!
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
We happen to be very pro marine life. A harpoon anti ship Missile though… you’ve raised an interesting point
@mr.c2809
@mr.c2809 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg I just thought it would look cool!
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Exactly the same sentiment with a harpoon missile sitting on the foredeck. Nothing says “I really like the aesthetic you’re going for” like long range surface to surface strike capability.
@mr.c2809
@mr.c2809 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupeg Maybe your Navy contacts can help you out with that, or just pick one up when you make it to Texas.
@angelineroberts8339
@angelineroberts8339 2 ай бұрын
The first thing we did was install a bow thruster,it is our best friend when docking
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj 2 ай бұрын
I always wondered why they didn't install a bow thruster when rebuilding the boat. The perfect time to install it would have been when they were reworking the bow hull plating. Installing a bow thruster in a steel boat has to be the easiest retrofit compared to all other materials. Hydraulic bow thrusters are probably the easiest to install. I don't know why they didn't take advantage of the simplistic reliability of hydraulic power to operate more things on the boat. It would have been very easy to make the stabilizers deploy and retract with hydraulic cylinders.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Cost was the reason. It’s around 25 k for us to add a hydraulic bow thruster as we would need to do a large scale pump upgrade as well as the pipe work and thruster work. We have hydraulics but very limited as the pump on the Cummins is the limiting factor and can’t easily be upgraded as there is no PTO. Given this is mostly an electric boat and we have a lot of excess power we would like to fit a thruster but it’s a low priority currently and when it does happen it will be an electric version. Same with winches for the wings. It’s just to costly to move to hydraulic at this point for us
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj 2 ай бұрын
@@ProjectBrupegI have seen boats that had a bow thruster provision, they had the housing welded into the hull so at a later time the thruster itself could be bolted into the housing. I am surprised you didn't install a much larger alternator on the main engine to maximize electrical generation while you are motoring around. The alternator alone could provide most of not all power needed to run the boat when motoring.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
@ChrisHarding-lk3jj the current alternator can provide 4 x our background load comfortable without going above 55c. We absolutely could fit a much larger alternator but with the amount of solar and battery storage we have it’s not proved necessary at this point
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
We are community funded which means we can’t do things how we would if we had the money. Everything including the bow thruster is scheduled but it will take time and saving as best we can. Jess
@bloodyslatts1452
@bloodyslatts1452 2 ай бұрын
What's this about feet? Is your sounder incapable of being set to meters? Nobody in the civilised world uses feet and inches.
@ProjectBrupeg
@ProjectBrupeg 2 ай бұрын
Ironically the sounder was flicking between Fahrenheit and feet. So I opted for a measurement of any form of length available at the time
@bloodyslatts1452
@bloodyslatts1452 2 ай бұрын
I'm intrigued. Do you have the brand and model number from the sounder? I'd like to pull up a manual for it. I've got a Fieldpiece digital thermometer that defaults to Fahrenheit every time I change the battery. To change it back to Celsius I have to push a tooth pick into a small hole in the side of it. It's not marked and not intuitive. It takes very little pressure to activate the switch and if I'm gentle with it I can feel the button click. If you find something like that on the sounder put your hammer away before trying to push it. I assume you're done with the thing and given it back by now but I'd be interested in finding out more about it. If I find a manual I'll post a link in your latest post if you like.
@mwreyf1
@mwreyf1 2 ай бұрын
Why in gods name is that wall not marked already? Do they think everyone should go out and sound the whole damn area?
@bloodyslatts1452
@bloodyslatts1452 2 ай бұрын
I think if Damos charts are in feet and fathoms the answers should be obvious. The bank has probably erroded back 100m or more since his charts were published. Things can change in 40 odd years. Just saying.
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