Faces of colonialism: the story of an imperialist propaganda | DW Documentary

[@justinanthenge619]

As an African, I have been visiting other African countries very often as I feel accepted. I recently visited Namibia based on very good advertisement by a blogger. Yes Namibia is beautiful, the nature, the vastness, the food, the best steak ever. However I was saddened by what I saw. Vast tracts of land owned by Boers and Germans alike with a constitution that says that one cannot reclaim his ancestral land. If this is not colonialism what is?????

[@hutotuto1675]

And only white people will be able to use and own cars, machines, computers, telephones, actually everything, because it belongs to their ancestors.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

You will find that is de-facto the case all over Eastern, Central and Southern Africa. These are the ancestral lands of Pygmies and Bush People - they were displaced over the last thousand or so years by Bantu. I don't see any other country in these regions of Africa volunteering to give them back their lands! Actually, in contrast to what you say it was in the presence of Boers (and other Europeans) that the Bush People of Southern Africa found a sanctuary of sorts. There are precious few Bush People tribes left in Eastern Africa and Southern Africa remains their best, last refuge.

[@EWRIGHT637]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 Get out of here with that Colonial babble. Europeans brought zero improvements to their colonial subjects

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Well look ... you speak English and are using the Internet so evidently you are wrong. Do you wash your hands before eating, have inoculations for small pox, have you studied mathematics, physics, chemistry, technology? Do you ride in a car or use currency other than cowry shells? Do you have electricity at night and turn a tap and water comes out? But here's the real kicker - do you expect to live past the age of 25? Because in 1880 that was the average life expectancy of an African in East Africa - today it is 65! That's 40 years of life that is a direct consequence of western development. I don't even have to try - you can deny all you like and yet these facts do not go away. @@EWRIGHT637

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

... and it's not colonial babble - it's Population Genetics (a field of Science) that studies population drifts based on DNA. @@EWRIGHT637

[@tipitii7388]

How the photographies were used was problematic but the photographies themselves are beautiful and so are the people in them.

[@oneel3859]

There's nothing beautiful about what Asians and Europeans did to Africans.

[@gbubemia]

How can you find beauty in these horrible photos? Your whiteness makes you ignorant.

[@eagledice2008]

I would say they are beautiful if your idiot ancestors had asked for permission but they didn't ask for permission they were murderers and devils if there is a heaven these white people will not see it

[@jimblack8104]

Well said

[@Defender123-l7i]

Germany is the most racist country on Planet earth.

[@lolakepi]

As an african lady, I will never let slavery and colonialism define who I am. We had a life before those tragic events.

[@fidelistq]

Why do you talk about slavery as your grand parents were taken as slaves.

[@Jeremiah587]

wdym@@fidelistq

[@Piqueblinders11]

Why do you say nothing about the Arabs who took you as slaves then? Why do none of your people educate themselves on the awful things the eastern colonial Arabs did to African slaves and decimated African indigenous population????? Brits are taught colonialism in school and the horrors. The same can’t be said for any Arab country….

[@Daron7181]

@@Piqueblinders11 That sounded a little personal dude.

[@99alp99fila]

​@@Piqueblinders11yup Arab slavery existed but Christianity was forced on Africans by colonisers

[@dmnkwedhi1292]

Thank you DW for enlightening us on one of the tentacles of colonialism. As a Namibian and an African, I feel like history never really remain in the past, it has a way of repeating itself if not continuing. I mean, to this day, the faces of colonialism still exists. The use photography to show Africa's inferiority just evolved and the western media are at the forefront of showing the worst possible photograghs they can find, which does not really depict the true nature of Africa and Africans.

[@robb5828]

If you are reffering to news outlets then yes,that's actually their job,focusing on drama and bad stuff and it goes everywhere not just about Africa and africans.Along the years,most of the stuff i've seen about Africa and their people were positive in general,i'm reffering to movies,documentaries,vlogs and so on. Last one was about a woman from Holland,riding her motorcycle across whole Africa.Quite nice

[@sam3407]

@@robb5828that’s a lie. I’m Kenyan and just a few years back we had to call out CNN on social media for portraying Kenya as a “hotbed of terrorism” …

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Actually you will find that you cannot source the vast majority of African photographs from the past (they are censored on Google). You may want to ask yourself why photographs of Africa and Africans from a hundred years back are not available on Google? There are for example lines of slaves from the Kamba (a tribe in Kenya) being deported to Mombassa by other Kamba Chiefs for the East African Slave Trade (stopped by the British). That history has been erased to the point that the Kamba in Kenya today do not even know it existed - the erasure of History is never a good thing. Whatever the British did they chronicled it and it is available for Historians to disseminate (and they often choose the bad ... no surprise). Why would imagery evidencing an African Slave Trade engaged in by Africans selling their own tribal members be erased from the pages of Google? The average lifespan of an African in the 1880s in East Africa was about 25 years ... they lived a very hard life which is evident in the photographs that exist from back then. Sorry they don't depict the "noble savage" that is a stereotype that ironically many of the Pan-African types seem wanting to perpetuate these days. Also woven clothing was non-existent in many parts of Africa - so if you are looking for Tweed Suits in the photos - also not available (although, numerous Zulu Chiefs would later elect to wear such dress in photographs). I also don't subscribe to the notion that the Europeans sought to make the black man appear savage in photographs. A lot of the photos were of tribal chiefs in their regalia. It was, what it was and if modern sensibilities can't grasp it or wish to reinterpret it then, that speaks more about our own Age.

[@LauraMachado-bv1dm]

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[@rvansteensel420]

and because history is in the past they can bend it to their will HIS STORY , its all a LIE .

[@Ratinevo]

💔💔💔 This documentary proves that it's far much better to honestly face our historic prejudices than side-step them or hide from them. The only way to heal past cruelty is to own up to such injustices and racists agendas perpetrated in history.

[@jm2307]

The people who support prejudice know this, and actively work to take access to education about these topics away from the masses. To create the narratives that they want people to believe. It’s so important to value truth, to stay informed, and to not stay desensitized or complacent.

[@somerandomfella]

That's not happening anytime soon. In Australia we're voting on whether to give Indigenous people "a voice" Most Australians are against it. They want to keep control of what they stole.

[@ceilconstante640]

@@somerandomfella Its a horrible injustice of the 21 Century. Here in the states, Black were kept down for so long after emancipation. It takes away personal power and the right to be an equal human. It keeps people in addiction and poverty.

[@Ratinevo]

@@somerandomfella I don't know what to say, that is heartbreaking.

[@mocca3633]

In other word, "Know your history, or be doomed to repeat it"

[@jessicahijarunguru4117]

I love how DW Documentary is getting more interested in the Namibia - German history, next time go deeper into the lives of children of mixed race born during the German era to the local Nama and Herero women, you will be interested to know how those little babies were hidden and survived seperation from their black mothers

[@jwh0122]

6:50 family of man (hierarchy) 8:02 farmers of different ethnic groups -> easier to control 12:14 3-colour camera, colonial expansion, ethnography 19:52 Togo 25:31 Herero and Nama genocide (1904->1908) 27:34 Kolmanskop (diamant mining) 29:28 Tanzania, Maasai people, askari 32:34 WWI, black infamy 34:47 Nazi vs colonialism 40:37 responsible ways of exhibiting colonial photos

[@LauraMachado-bv1dm]

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[@anuragpatil4073]

​@LauraMachado-bv1dm Are you justifying colonialism?

[@Nikkijs915]

Referencing 17:52 it’s so bewildering that based on the “manifold experience “ they thought each race should keep to it’s own, all the while colonizing other people’s land. Smh!

[@randyraudi7725]

You should see it as a result of time, back then there was no TV or internet to spread ideas/languages and so on among your people, if you wanted a united country you had to be sure that everyone follows the same culture on his own. I mean there were still many german ethnicities which spoke different german languages even with this mindset. A rope is only strong as long as ot doesn't split up and stay as a whole, same with a country. I would see it more as a method to survive as a German on this rough continent rather than racism.

[@jamesjones5927]

​@@randyraudi7725Why were they there to begin with? They weren't born there, they sailed there & then wanted to keep it separate in the Africans land that the germans had no authority or ties to...

[@MultiRingtail]

How come we are never talking about Ottoman colonialization which lasted as long?

[@gbubemia]

This comment is by a miserable person

[@Eechuta]

Doesn’t play into the narrative

[@magesalmanac6424]

Because this is about Germany you clown.

[@MultiRingtail]

@@Eechuta they are still colonialist imperialists though

[@Eechuta]

@@MultiRingtail Very true, the Arabs wont get flak either

[@debashistalukdar5523]

I truly commend the team for making this documentary with such detailed depiction of the diabolical racist history. It takes a great deal of honesty and morality for the existing generation to accept and acknowledge the cruelty done by their preceding generation onto others. This also educates the former population about the reality of colonialism, that it was not just remotely trade, but lowest of human standard. I also commend the German people for embracing their past in entirety and not cherry coating the ugly. I am from India and my country was under British colonial rule and never ever have I stumbled upon a documentary made by the British depicting the unthinkable crimes they did in the name of racist supremacy, that it was the white man's burden to civilize the savages. Irony is, they turned out to be the savages.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Hmmm ... so say the revisionists of today. Fact is that you can delve into the past and find many 'educated' black Pan-Africans and 'brown' Indians echoing exactly the same sentiments as many Europeans back then. So what of them ... were they stooges or do you respect their own analysis even though it contradicts your own and that of the 'modern' diatribe?

[@mjanny6330]

It doesn't take any honesty and morality to demonize an entire race, while excusing or simply ignoring the evil perpetrated by others.

[@shanegedula8183]

You pour your heart out.... and I feel your pain... and your disappointment in the very same people that so hardly try to sit upon that moral high ground of which they are not worthy of..... I have a book on my bed it stays there and it never moves from it..... In that book I have the name of every Tribe they drove to Extinction.....

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@shanegedula8183 ... and if by they (you mean Europeans) - try again. European colonialism (or British specifically) in Africa stopped Tribal Wars and actually preserved the integrity of Tribes and the domains they inhabited (there are numerous instances of Tribes being wiped out by the Maasai in East Africa and Zulu in South Africa and many others in the interior by Slavers when the British arrived ... and West Africa was much worse than all of these). In India much the same and more specifically the English preserved the integrity of Indian Peoples by the establishment of States in which the official languages were of the people who lived there and not for example Persian. You also have quite literally hundreds of instances of dictionaries being created and the cultural histories of peoples being recorded. To evaluate the British Colonies in terms of the equivalent period of time prior in those locales is the difference between night and day. Your grievances in the absence of putting things into any perspective are just silly and whiney!

[@shanegedula8183]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 Obviously you need that narrative to assuage your own conscious for the inhumanity and the death and destruction the colonial forces brought upon the Natives where ever they sat foot, but I don't fall for that for I know my Story and it didn't start with the arrival of a bunch of hungry savages...

[@Dan-xx5jq]

A lot of Germans were killed in WWll. If they didn't die, there would be millions of Germans living today. I am glad that Germans are so open about their past. They believe in learning from the past. History will repeat itself if we fail to learn from the past.

[@hezorex9822]

Its really sad that our grandparents have to suffer all these from imperialism and colonialism. But if you look today, nothing much has changed. Africa is still controlled by the west. Our leaders are controlled by the west. Our minerals are taking away and the continent have the highest poverty ratio. Look how young African men and women dying in the sea just to reach the shores of Europe. I think we Africans are also sometimes responsible for other races to look low upon us. We don't like each other. We are so much into tribalism. We hate each other. Our politicians are the most wicked people in the planet. If we don't change from these ways, we will always be consider the lowest in the human chain. United we strong and divided we fall.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

OK - I'll give you one thing that has improved: Average life expectancy of a sub-saharan African in 1880 was about 25 years - today it is 65+ years. I could go through hundreds of other metrics that have improved from education to healthcare - but you are right - Most African Leaders post Independence failed big time and the lack of true luminaries is glaring. A few like Nyerere (Tanzania) had their hearts and aspirations in the right place - the execution however was hampered by ideology. Africa has growing pains - hopefully it will mature.

[@AJWRAJWR]

The problems will persist as long as you keep blaming the West and playing the victim instead of realising the Africans themselves are the problem.

[@kukamusa1947]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 Nyerere blocked the one Africa movement. He aint no saint.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@kukamusa1947 He had common sense - One Africa is an idiotic idea that typically exists in the minds of foreigners. Nyerere made many mistakes (which he acknowledged - rare in a leader) but remains the one leader in Africa that 1) Struck out on his own terms. 2) Successfully protected his borders alone from invasion (Uganda, supported materially by Libya) and in so doing overthrew an African Dictator and handed the country back to Ugandans. 3) Completed the language unification of the country (Kiswahili) started by the Germans and British. 4) Recognised the potential problem that foreign Pan-Africans were causing (especially after the Zanzibari massacres) and imprisoned them as they would have plunged the region into civil and tribal war.

[@kukamusa1947]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 He just wanted to be called a president that all. 54 useless country. Nothing he achieved as as a leader. The socialism failed. Note am a kenyan, so sorry, but no.

[@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602]

Preoccupation with history is only undignified if it is used as an instrument to dehumanize a group of people and divide society in order to create or perpetuate some kind of political hierarchy. The topic of this documentary is sensitive (painful for some people), but it was adequately handled by DW.

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

People occupy other's land because they conquer it Throughout history people conquered and ruled Persian, Indian and Mongolian empires too

[@Jetmab04]

Yes and, many Europeans certainly don't like to share photo's of their "glorious" time as Colonials... I've found documents and photo's alike in my research which I am being told "we don't talk about" should I take the liberty to ask for clarification...💤 I guess it's easier to hide/forget things in official History...if for nothing else then, to look good and friendly...sounds better than to admit they were horrific....

[@lavinder11]

So, you find the "preoccupation with history" as long as a judgement isn't made? Typical.

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@Jetmab04 just Belgium was cruel and Britain a bit , do turkey and Russian identify as European? because they actually were cruel .so was Persian and Mongolian

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@Jetmab04Spain and British were glorious because they spread Christianity and sports and literature and music The industrial revolution is sthg to be proud of Though Portugal and Belgium were cruel, though they don't receive hate because they're not known for much, same with Mongolia Japan does receive hate though

[@saramekonnen5127]

We Ethiopians are proud free people never allowed such inhumane behavior of Europeans. As a Christian nation believe all humans are equally created by God. May God bless Ethiopia.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Ethiopia only gave up slavery in 1943. One in every three Ethiopians was a slave.

[@saramekonnen5127]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 Don't mislead innocent people. If you are ignorant read history books including the holy book Bible.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Those facts are historical: Ethiopia was liberated by the British in 1942 from a brief period of colonial rule by the Italians. In the following year Haile Selassie agreed to end the institution of slavery in Ethiopia. It is estimated at the time that 1 in every 3 Ethiopians was a slave. Abyssinian slaves were very popular in particular in Arab holdings because they were ascribed higher intelligence than most Africans. @@saramekonnen5127

[@themaskedman221]

The Italians were quite brutal in Ethiopia.

[@deamorebeaute2412]

But you allowed it to happen to the rest of your brethren.

[@jasayehan]

I mean... have the Namibians gotten any compensation? If not, then a simple apology really doesn't cut it does it?

[@BirdsfromHuntingdon]

How far back in history are we gonna go for “compensations” and who gets to decide what is worthy of “compensation”

[@mashobane6177]

There is no need for compensation, everything happened was meant to happen and God allowed it to happen.

[@playthegame7445]

And shouldnt African nations compensate Europeans for enslaving a million of them ? Or should they not compensate for selling their own kind as slaves? Or shouldn't they compensate the Brits or French for stopping the slavery trade? How many French and Brits soldiers died fighting the Africans to stop selling their own kind like slaves. Why do all people talk like other region of the world are saints and that only the west has committed atrocities? Look at the factual history and not this woke propaganda and you can clearly see the evil committed by most of the world regions.

[@shukriiii]

@@BirdsfromHuntingdon 150 years (recent history) will suffice

[@BirdsfromHuntingdon]

@@shukriiii So who decides how far back we go for compensation?

[@robertmusil5831]

For a more subtle case of photography as colonialist propaganda consider the case of Robert Capa. Among a total of 303 photographs taken by Capa in Israel/Palestine in 1948 only ONE shows the face of a Palestinian. In this way, Capa simply erased an inconveniently indigenous people's existence by aiming his lens in only one direction. Looking forward to an equally critical documentary by DW on Capa.

[@nicholasali2182]

Thank you 🙏🏿will def look into this.

[@robertmusil5831]

@@nicholasali2182 Check out recent peer-reviewed research by Dr Jørgen Jensehaugen at Oslo University. See: "Photographing 1948: Robert Capa’s Absent Palestinians", Journal of Palestine Studies (2023)

[@mjanny6330]

Palestinians aren't indigenous, they migrated from future east and erased the original inhabitants, who were a now extinct genetic subset of Europeans. (Mediterranean European) They did the same thing in Egypt. Original colonization, and two of the most successful genocides in human history.

[@CallemJayNZ]

​@@mjanny6330 You need to broaden your research

[@steevenhyde3505]

Jeez, so many ads. So excesive.

[@user-ur9wy1lt8z]

Just buy the premium subscription and don't complain

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

Germany has such an interesting history. The only country in the world which had every major ideology and form of governance: Monarchy, imperialism, democracy, social-imperialism, nationalsocialism (Nazism), communism, socialism, social-democracy.

[@aamirilyas10]

But the Mercedes Benz also belongs to them💙

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

​@@aamirilyas10so does Opel, Volkswagen, BMW and Audi

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

What about Austria?

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv It was annexed by Nazi Germany, so it was a part of another country during that time, imperialism is debatable since Austria-Hungary didn’t have colonies and I also don’t think that it had ever a communist and socialist government.

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

@@aamirilyas10 Huh? Do you mean to the political ideologies?

[@gwengoeltl5875]

Für alle, die sich mehr mit der Rolle der Fotografie in Kolonialismus beschäftigen wollen kann ich "An alle orte, die hinter uns liegen" von Sinthujan Varatharajah empfehlen!

[@amapparatistkwabena]

I’ll never forget a conversation I had with a new acquaintance I’d met in Berlin who very shockingly on a stroll through the city when the conversation turned to colonialism (doesn’t it always?😅) offered, „…Aber Deutschland unterscheidet sich insofern von anderen europäischen Ländern, als wir keine Geschichte der Kolonisierung haben…“ What? It was literally called the BERLIN Conference! Also, there’s Namibia… and well, ask the ethnic groups almost wiped out by the Germans if they understand her ignorance…

[@captnemo3677]

English translation for anyone wondering - "But Germany is different from other European countries when we have no history of colonization".

[@dares16]

Beautiful people with a rich culture and diversity, the very first people (Earthlings).

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

Just like every continent

[@JDStar1295]

@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv Im seeing this new trend of whenever someone says something positive about Africa/African culture, someone always has to pops in and says something along the lines of "TheY ArEn't tHe OnLY Ones"... the commentator never said other continents were not beautiful... jeez

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@JDStar1295 because Africa still has slavery and tourism is low in their countries

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@JDStar1295 also, in USA they commit majority of crime

[@JDStar1295]

@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv WTF does this have to do with anything?

[@paleesemendy7497]

It baffles me how you make a documentary without a direct dialogue with the victims

[@ypk7858]

A very important and critical point

[@m.m.2310]

I agree, but also wonder if any are willing to be interviewed for a documentary.

[@Maruwasa]

good point - it kinda sort of hints at the continuing look at them in as object mentality still existing

[@asatrv]

The victims? They are all dead. This happened 100 years ago. Or do we also need to talk to the “victims” of slavery aka their grand-grand-grand-grandparents being a serf in feudal Europe 200 years ago? Life is hard, stronger people dominate weaker people. That’s how it was and how it always will be.

[@ypk7858]

@asatrv Wow!! Germany still make payments to Israel to this day, and that is just fine but when it comes to Africa, you spew such nonsense . Anyway, the situation will never remain like this forever...one day we will all wake up to some very "interesting" news....

[@ykjo5613]

I can attest to the body telling you to say no! When I wondered how & why things happened the way they did, I realized exactly what the problem was, and it is JUST as he says. And I ALWAYS say that when the nice person puts their foot down suddenly, after giving everything of themselves, then they become the a-hole. So true!

[@cryptospacexxxit6281]

What are you even trying to say.

[@Jetmab04]

Exactly! In research I have sadly, been directly warned against these "friendly" people many, many times... The saying "if we don't talk about it, it probably never happened" is more than correct....because it DID happen and often, much worse than we can imagine.

[@aspdlsp2420]

​@@cryptospacexxxit6281 he is saying that when you treat someone with kindness and they take advantage of that and you eventually stand up for yourself no longer wanting to be taken advantage of that person will claim you are a reasonable and villafy you

[@LauraMachado-bv1dm]

🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒🐒

[@urielriley]

Blanquiemiento mentality

[@7heavencatholictalkseries]

Why isn't Dr. Kokoo Azamede referred to as such. Would it be too much for the white reporter to call a black historian "Doctor"? What has changed between then and now?

[@cata440]

Exactly! And @DWDocumentary gave him 1 minute of airtime out of a 42-min documentary, despite the fact that he had more expertise on the subject matter than anyone else featured, and they don't see the irony

[@fistandpen2505]

I'm Nigerian. One thing that is true is that white people across their various communities have had a very deep and toxic psyche for which they have to cleanse themselves. Change the language, and this is the exact behavior of white folks in America. Another thing that is true is that DW Documentary, itself, continues the trend of negative propaganda about Africa. The day you begin to show progressive, realistic profiles about all the positives going on in contemporary Africa will be the first time.

[@TheAArmstrong]

I’m white. We weren’t toxic and aren’t toxic today. Just very successful at the colonisation game. Top dog 💪

[@fistandpen2505]

@@TheAArmstrong ehh, I'd say both. Successful and toxic, how's that?

[@TheAArmstrong]

@@fistandpen2505 You only think we’re toxic because you’re salty we did so well.

[@olegsamar4324]

Nigerian Prince 😂😂😂

[@ypk7858]

You are absolutely right. Did this documentary demand reparations for the African people? Has anything changed in Namibia and other African countries?

[@civirebel]

We are no better than how we treat the vulnerable amongst us. It is those that fear uncertainty, that seek subordination and dominion, that have fear of our differences, the unknown, that seek to control and have power over the minds of human...

[@SamuelLevant]

that's highly anti-semitic, shame on you

[@jessicahijarunguru4117]

Word...

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@SamuelLevant Israel had Jesus X ray,printing press cars, video games,cycle from Germany Wifi, telescope from Netherlands Computer, vaccines, cricket, Tennis, formula 1, steam engine, motor from england Television refrigerator from Scotland Pasteurization , photography, penal code, statue of Liberty from France Piano, violin , cello, espresso machine, radio, telephone from Italy Helicopter and Rubik's cube from Hungary Periodic table from Russia Etc

[@SamuelLevant]

@@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv what's your point?

[@KygoCalvinHarris-xu4kv]

@@SamuelLevant regardless of what news says The guilt pushing can't eliminate the pride of bringing the world forward

[@bruceangel4459]

Can we not accept that racism and racists exist? Parsing every scrap and dissecting every statement seems like an exercise in futility and a quick way to end up in the madhouse.

[@dominiqpowell37]

SOUTH AFRICA AND NAMIBIA NEEDS TO RECLAIM ALL THERE LAND. PERIOD AND YES BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-vu6dx]

Stunning and brave...

[@simplelife4019]

It really feels like all Europeans are recovering memory of their dark ugly past...Good thing

[@rootsoriginals7087]

Nah,we don't give a hoot about the past ,you can't change it,just like death

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Would you like me to recount some African and Asian History - I can find you far darker episodes? The Western World (which we live in) has lots of negatives but has also been the apex of humanity across a whole spectrum of human achievements. A comparative cultural assessment would not be terribly wise!

[@JessicaBuena000]

Can the museum/publisher provide parts of its income where these photos were taken?

[@jaye739]

Sad part is that the people who could stand to learn from this, will not watch this. 😢

[@darex9947]

​@@joebrewer4529how can history be anything but subjective? It's written by humans.. humans with biases and opinions and beliefs. It's always written from the point of view of the powerful and the victorious

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

@@joebrewer4529white people being racist isn’t subjective.

[@RennmausG0ttes]

​@@LadyCeCeFromThaDirtylook at that, black people being racist isn't subjective.

[@crystlelakefarm1254]

​@darex9947 It depends on the type of history though, and for the type you're describing doesn't always include the story

[@thomasthomasphilp4393]

Its very good that Germans lost their african colonies after first World War. Otherwise more genocides would have had happened like in Namibia

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

Thank god the others didn’t do the same 😁

[@af5433]

@@Tobi-ln9xr Congo Belga!

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

@@af5433 That was sarcasm.

[@af5433]

@@Tobi-ln9xr I guessed it!

[@martinbasler5833]

Good to see DW letting the world know about atrocities the Germans committed in my country

[@cryptospacexxxit6281]

Go back then.

[@samgatsby8437]

Angola was a Portuguese colony

[@lputaa]

Thanks you so much DW for sharing! So informative documentary 🙏🏿 Always watching

[@johanngiesbrecht6460]

Dear man, can you forgive the Germans, after over 100 years and after the Germans declared themselves guilty and were willing to consult with the Namibia government by agreeing to pay 1.1 billion euros to heal the old wounds, so that everything is in order again between the Namibians and the Germans, because no one can undo it. Greeting from Canada. Lieber Mann, können Sie den Deutschen verzeihen, nach über 100 Jahren und nachdem die Deutschen sich schuldig erklärt haben und bereit waren, mit der namibischen Regierung 1,1 Milliarden Euro zu zahlen, um die alten Wunden zu heilen, damit zwischendurch alles wieder in Ordnung ist zwische die Namibier und die Deutschen, denn niemand kann es rückgängig machen. Grüße aus aus Kanada.

[@ADUAquascaping]

@@johanngiesbrecht6460 Only 25,000 Germans lived in their colonies at the height of their empire. Germany now has MILLIONS of African immigrants living in Germany. People living today do NOT owe Africans anything. Moral, collective guilt is unjustified. Have you never read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl? He survived the Holocaust and he doesn't even condone moral, collective guilt. Germans brought technology and genius to Africa. They were taking colored photographs of people still using obsidian projectiles. I mean, seriously, evolution isn't fair or pretty. No one needs to accept the unjustified resentment of contemporary Africans or their victimhood mentality. Their lack of education has nothing to do with colonialism. Their lack of education is their OWN fault.

[@kidmohair8151]

to be honest, the Kaiserreich and the thousand (12) year regime learned all they needed to know about racism and othering from the brits, french, belgian and dutch empires. particularly the later 2.

[@cryptospacexxxit6281]

Dutchies unite!!!

[@carolinekamya2339]

Psychopaths in suits and ties

[@dpt6849]

Those are called politicians

[@carolinekamya2339]

past that - people are Psychopaths in suits and ties@@dpt6849

[@isaymymind1727]

Don't forget the psychopaths in skin hides who let the slave master in and were tasked with fetching other black people to sell as slaves..why do we not talk of them today? That same behaviour persists today as black african leaders are selling their countries to the highest bidder. Talk of that if you believe charity begins at home

[@bigdawg3305]

​@dpt6849 You see? People think politics is necessary. Politics is the most unnecessary thing that has ever happened.

[@natbirchall1580]

History no beginning and no end

[@Ratinevo]

Indeed. And History does not repeat itself, people do.

[@bigdawg3305]

And war has never been a part of history.

[@TonyLing]

7:14 Here is where it becomes awkward. A black person living in Kenya, for instance, would consider the bush people to be under developed.

[@tarobinson7411]

Western Europe considers Eastern Europe underdeveloped....even to this day...

[@Ratinevo]

There was no classism in Central, Eastern and Southern Africa until the colonialists and missionaries came to Africa.

[@Ratinevo]

@@tarobinson7411 This is true. It's also recorded in the racist history of immigrants of the USA during and After the world wars. Western Europeans treated Eastern and Southern Europeans as inferior.

[@abk6877]

The Blackman has fought and defended others and built and promoted others save himself. The day Africans will fight to defend himself and begin to build for themselves will mark the starting point of real shift in world affairs. The table will surely turn one day.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Yes, you are essentially correct (misread you earlier): The Bantu when they came to Kenya regarded the Bush People in Kenya as inferior. The Nilotes considered the Bantu as thieves and invaders. The Somalis were equally hated by and hated both and the Ethiopics considered all of the aforementioned as savages. For the Arabs (and Waswahaili) the persons of the interior were the Zanj (approximately equal to animals). These attitudes existed prior to the arrival of Europeans. The only difference was the cataloguing that Europeans were in the habit of doing as per their scientific methods. You can still find the same in science today except they refer to the diversity of genomes and haplogroups by which they assert essentially the same thing as their counterparts in the 1800s, early 1900s. The only difference being that they can't make such certain assertions public and the scientists that pursue this research are from all races.

[@superlight7654]

Humans are selfish but can also be kind. Selfish behaviour is not limited to one etnic group. Africans behaved appallingly to their own by facilitating the slave trade, rounding up people for profit or other benefits. The Arabs and the Ottomans traded in slaves and transported many people around the world - many more people than the UK. The Vikings invaded many lands, as did the Romans, the Egyptians used slaves. The list is endless.

[@greenknitter]

The Vikings invaded my land Ireland yes, plundered and killed, and they founded cities and town here after battles with native Irish. What they did NOT do was brutally, systemically colonise us for hundreds of years, destroying our language and culture, starve 2 million of us to death while they exported all our food to England under armed guard, and strip our country bare of forests. It took the Brits to do that. Don't conflate wars of aggression between armies to the dehumanising process of colonial subjugation and oppression of whole nations.

[@MountH212]

The Africans who participated in slave trade did so only under duress after they were defeated. This documentary is not about slave trade. Stop deflecting

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@MountH212 Nice try at deflection yourself - in West Africa the African Chiefs provided a solution for the European holdings in America - they sold slaves to the Europeans on their terms and prior to the Europeans making inroads into Africa. The only defeat of African Chiefs came later when specific chiefs did not want to end the slave trade (the story of how Nigeria came into being). In East Africa the slave trade was also endemic with tribes there even selling members of their own tribe into slavery. Bantu peoples were also famously regarded as the natural masters of Pygmies in Africa and their expansion led to the eradication of Bush Peoples in most of Africa.

[@MountH212]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 History is written by the victor and 90% of what Europeans wrote about slavery is false. What do you expect when the same person who committed a crime recounts the crime? I am a scholar and I can show hard proof to what I say. Do you have any proof? Certainly not

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@MountH212 A scholar who doesn't even understand the foundational dynamics of the Transatlantic Slave Trade? You must be one of these modern scholars I hear so much about? Your expertise apparently is the declaration that you are a scholar ... wow that's impressive - so was I way-back except I never felt the need to express that as the sole pretext for the validation of my works (you let that speak for itself). If you are going to feed me a diatribe of Pan-African, Wakandarised, Kwanza'd tripe - please don't I have high blood pressure and can't afford to dissolve into bursts of laughter. I'm from Africa (Kenya) - you can talk to Kamba people in Kenya today who relate how their fore-fathers told them about the long chains of peoples their chiefs sold into slavery (there are even photos from that period by the way). Machakos was originally built by the Zanzibari for a Kamba chieftain for the express purpose of corralling slaves. Nigerians and other West Africans will also relate the same about their fore-fathers. You have the first-hand accounts of European Explorers corroborated by Arab and African Slavers (Tippu-Tip, Chief Kivoi, ... ). There are documents, ships digests, etc. ... You seriously have to be a deluded fool encompassed by the fantastical world of Pan-African BS to believe this stuff never happened as recounted and corroborated by numerous sources.

[@silentnight9655]

There is racism everywhere from maternity hospitals to funeral homes, cemeteries and absolutely every place in between although not everyone is racist.

[@brazilchem]

I like it how academics would like to see some 120 years old images simply censored - without directly saying it. These photos are history. Just like wokism, very soon.

[@ypk7858]

Can you please explain Wokeism, in your own words?

[@sstarklite2181]

Thanks for showing the world that colonialism is slavery. And that all colonial powers owe billions to these nations to help them build modern societies, especially Tower cities connected to maglev Trains.

[@BirdsfromHuntingdon]

You’re joking right?

[@playthegame7445]

Do u even know if Europeans wouldn't have imported their knowledge African people wouldn't have even knew how to write or read till a century later

[@GTAVIDream]

​@@playthegame7445 please tell me that's a "bad joke" lol and if your serious, how old are you

[@playthegame7445]

@@GTAVIDream Thats absolutely true, just do a bit of research. 1st off im not an NPC, that just goes with whatever the media says, I can do my own research. If Europeans wouldn't have transferred their knowledge then Africa as a continent would have been way way behind then they are now. Just look at their infrastructure, they havent built anything since the Europeans have left

[@johanakariankei9758]

@@playthegame7445 You are very wrong, Ethiopia was never Colonized and they have great architecture and education

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

It was a wonderful documentary and thrilled watching 👀... Documentary...it's excited me the Germany 🇩🇪 after WW2 obviously condemning theirs racism pages in modern history of Germany....while Other European countries whose they had similar racism history pages..during imperialism terms they are not admitting and not condemning themselves....always they advancing smartness evading methods and elasticity pretexts...thank you (DW) documentary channel for sharing

[@NSrini1971]

Correct. Britain hasn't regerts or apologize to indians yet.

[@xXx-lfg]

Yeah, they replaced racism with mass murder instead.

[@Jsarmy87124]

France erased all her dirty past even from history book!

[@Jsarmy87124]

​@@NSrini1971the king said it but like other people they don't want to give back jewel

[@rmf9567]

It’s part of history. Do you see Africans admitting or condemning that they sold their own people into slavery?

[@MountH212]

Africa had great kingdoms before slavery, eg the kingdoms of Benin, Ashanti, Timbuktu, Zimbabwe, Nubia, Kemet, etc

[@mjanny6330]

Which collapsed when the evil European put a stop to their widespread use of slavery.

[@randyraudi7725]

You know that Benin was built on slaves ? But when Africans enslave Africans it is okay right ?

[@mumbiification]

DW was right to give the warning at the beginning. I couldn't finish watching. Germany has an interesting history - the fact that these pictures are still in circulation without the right context is disturbing.

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

Does DW seriously fondly believe Africa is one big happy country populated by one big happy black family????? The ignorance in this video is astounding!

[@randyraudi7725]

Well, it is the narrative today...

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

Cope racist

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

@@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty Is that what you are?

[@lewisshamilton7639]

France still has colonies in Africa.

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

Not really

[@Ratinevo]

Economic colonies that pay a hefty financial tribute to France.

[@isaymymind1727]

So what if they have colonies..Those people's leaders connived with whoever colonised them.

[@Ratinevo]

@@isaymymind1727 Yes, the corrupt greedy leaders, they always betray their people.

[@mamadytraore5797]

​@@isaymymind1727so what ? Is that France refuse to admit it, and pretend she would still in the security council without those ( colonies) and the franc cfa .

[@wolfgang7825]

Thank you, now a documentary on neocolonialism / present day colonialism

[@DWDocumentary]

Thanks for watching, we are happy to hear you enjoyed the docu :)

[@Dan-xx5jq]

Germany could have ruled the world if the WWl and WWll had not crushed Germany. Today we all would be speaking German and not English around the world.

[@teviottilehurst]

Yeah okay. 😂

[@adnaied8126]

I expected more, I thought it was going somehow to make a relation between colonialism and today’s state of affairs in Africa. Honestly it would be better, and not just showing some photos to show fake empathy.

[@stanleykubrick8786]

With this foundational approach to thinking, do we really think that we can save ourselves by colonizing outer space when we have never demonstrated the capacity to manage our own planet?

[@michaelpcoffee]

We are quite good at colonizing, actually.

[@sinbadsailor1963]

So you fear we will abuse the indigenous people of Mars? How stupid.

[@narakuotomo8431]

Times... When colors of skin is matter, white = human, non white = not human

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Obviously don't follow the media narrative in the United States do you?

[@randyraudi7725]

You sure ? Ever heard of Slavs ?

[@narakuotomo8431]

@@randyraudi7725 do you know african pigmi? In American Zoo?.... Can u imagine human in a zoo?

[@randyraudi7725]

@@narakuotomo8431 There were no TVs back then, and Germans are curious people, they like to see other cultures.

[@LogicaetRatio-r8z]

Russia is the only country in the modern era which still has this mentality officially.

[@constructiveeconomics6733]

Nice way to shift the blame of western crimes against the indigenous African people. Why is it so hard for settler imperialist western people to answer for their crimes? Rather, they project their insecurities onto other people or out right obfuscate and gaslight.

[@ypk7858]

Really? Do you seriously believe the other Europeans have changed?

[@screambeyond]

Many others too. Iran still think they are the Persian empire, and they try to govern the whole Middle-Near East. Besides, Arabs think they are the superior race of the whole muslim world. China is actually an empire that has subjugated hundreds of different cultures and populations, and still does (just the same than India). And a long etc. But the legions of people like you think Europeans are the bad ones.

[@screambeyond]

@@ypk7858 well... Iran still think they are the Persian empire, and they try to govern the whole Middle-Near East. Besides, Arabs think they are the superior race of the whole muslim world. China is actually an empire that has subjugated hundreds of different cultures and populations, and still does (just the same than India). And a long etc. But all these people think Europeans are the bad ones.

[@mariomazzi7894]

The translation of the book shown is ":Dog from Africa." That was not included in this translation. Horrible!

[@nobody687]

Theres no degradation of the people. Its truth. They do differ from tribe to tribe. Like Scandinavians and spanish or italians. Would like to see his collection of old africa pictures without your racist opinions

[@mwangimukuha]

Thank you for sharing our great grandparents stories!👏

[@DWDocumentary]

Thanks for watching!

[@chloeew4627]

Excellent photos ,thanks 😊

[@urielriley]

That saddest part is this propaganda worked perfectly. It made people act on lies.

[@reksfoleur859]

I have been watching a couple of documentaries from DW, each time it touches topics related to racism, the amount of dislikes and racist comments are insanely high... interesting.

[@mjanny6330]

Dislikes can't be seen, except with tools that often get them wrong. But you're right about the second part, the extreme and unfounded racism towards Europeans in the comments is out of control.

[@reksfoleur859]

@@mjanny6330 first, I think the dislikes tools give good estimations, been pretty consistent so far.. Secondly, I meant racism towards non white people..

[@tarim2822]

Yes I noticed that too especially if the documentaries are about non European people.

[@Yoxa4]

Interesting facts about slavery that most of people doesn't know or remember: First is that there was just as much slaves from asia as from africa. And the second one is that in medieval ages and up until 1800' s more than half of people living in europe were slaves, it depended in which family you are born, if you was from peasant family, you were poor for the rest of your life, having 0 chances for a career or different job, not working for higher classes, and thats such a bs, that now nothing really changed, this cruel principle, which people can change, if some think twice.

[@playthegame7445]

And those Europeans were enslaved by the Africans, and whats worse is that African nations enslaved even their own people and sold them off

[@b1ackhatter453]

Well you mention Europe and most if not all of the populace were indentured servants. I wouldn’t say slaves but i understand your overall point. So i say to you, history may not always repeat but it certainly rhymes and this is what the system is working to get back to. While people are willingly and unwillingly helping them(the system) achieve it. The only difference is now trying to enforce it permanently worldwide. There is the elite/ the rich and everyone else is the poor. No in between.

[@playthegame7445]

@@b1ackhatter453 And just to throw it there, there are more slaves today than was ever throughout the hight of the trade. And most of these slaves are in Africa, Middle East and Asia, but everyone focuses on the past and they just gloss it over the present

[@reksfoleur859]

@@playthegame7445 why is it still happening exactly? Why do we have, for example, child working in mines in RDC at the cost of their lives?

[@reksfoleur859]

@@playthegame7445 "sold their own people", do you say the same about Europeans? They sold and put into slavery their own people? You know shit about the reality of slavery on the African continent. Being a slave based on your colour of your skin is worse than being a slave out of social structure, because it means that no matter what, you cannot escape your slave status - in the latter it is possible - as it was in ancient Greece and in many places on the African continent.

[@gurlwhowants2dj]

Was the person on the video call speaking German?

[@gwengoeltl5875]

Yes, the historian on the video call from Togo was speaking German!

[@juliancoulden1753]

Does this channel do anything else apart from foster racism ?

[@ShlomoGoldbergStein]

Were it not for colonialism, nobody in Africa would have running water or indoor plumbing, or know how to read or write. They would not have modern dentistry, or modern medicine either.

[@JeromeHermbert]

Well people used to live there just fine without all of these. But thanks to colonialism, they now got pollution, overpopulation and much more.

[@moniquec7722]

That's not true. Technological transfer occurs without colonisation. This is the same old trope used to justify stealing land and exploiting people

[@Nubialady32]

We had our medication and have developed it. many Africans were reading and writting before colonization so stop lying

[@Nubialady32]

Many Africans were reading and writting before colonization...

[@adriangamble2214]

I Never understood the length of evil until I visited Germany.

[@monetroshi]

Lmaooo you have not visited Belgium

[@Dan-xx5jq]

Europeans were at the top, Asians were in the middle.... 😂 😂 The Chinese discovered gunpowder. Europeans stole the technology like every thing else.

[@lowtempg0d]

It is amazing, DW show us racism yesterday and KZbin comments show us racism today. Technology used to push an agenda, what is new

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Perhaps ... or perhaps DW is a the product of a European elite that only allows a particular narrative on the airwaves. See ... what's really interesting if you elect to delve into History is that you can get multiple counter narratives from black African and south Asian voices from the 1800s. If you study the evolution of Pan-African history for example ... you see particularly people being lauded and when it is discovered that they said something out of the accepted realm then, ... they are removed from that history. People will naturally push back when they see History being distorted on re-written to suit a particular narrative ... you needn't ascribe that to racism ... just good scholarship (which is sadly lacking in Western institutions today).

[@deamorebeaute2412]

Go look up the top ten most racist countries in the world. Coincidentally, they are all European and Asian. Statistically, Europeans and Asians are the largest perpetrators of racial bigotry. Racism is a social construct Europeans invented. Until, they eradicate it from their human population, it will never go away.

[@junaidparak2800]

yes - it amazes me how nostalgic europe is about their colonialism. Nostalgia over the rape, torture, plunder , theft and sadistic humiliation, slaughter and murder of innocent , defenseless people. Of course the European did not view the Colonized as human. I am in awe at how the Colonized people welcomed and showed the European hospitality in most cases.

[@Dan-xx5jq]

He must have had a lot antiquities from Africa in his apartment that were destroyed and lost forever in the WWll bomb attack. Very sad. If he hadn't taken them to Germany they would exist today.

[@wordscapes5690]

This happens to this day. Come to Africa. At the local hotels, wealthy Germans can happily watch “indigenous dances” performed for them while they eat steak and prawns at the waterfront… while they take happy selfies of the “natives”.

[@randyraudi7725]

Where is the big difference to Bavarians in leather trousers ? This is also a thing tourists like.

[@wordscapes5690]

@@randyraudi7725 When were Bavarians enslaved by the black man?

[@randyraudi7725]

@@wordscapes5690 Bavarians getting enslaved by the nobility and church doesn't count as enslavement ? Thats how humans are, Africans also enslaved other Africans. And compare german colonialism to the rest and you will see it wasn't the same.

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

@@randyraudi7725so never. Got it

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

@@randyraudi7725compare African on African slavery to slavery in colonies and you’ll see it wasn’t the same

[@jaye739]

This is a really good documentary. I would just like to say that it seemed to me Lohmeyer may have suffered from depressed self-esteem, where you often come to evaluate others as more valuable than yourself. This inferiority feeling conflicts with the existential human psychological need to feel positively distinct from others. As such, he engaged in a strategy to restore his self-esteem, by downplaying the value of Africans. He couldn't do that amongst his own people because evaluating other people of one’s own social group can also indirectly mean devaluing oneself. So he made it his life's mission to devalue a social group to which he did not belong. This behavior is consistent with the theoretical perspective, people with low self-esteem tend to show in-group favoritism, racism, sexism, isolationism and political extremism, and less support for democratic values. Thus, the evidence suggests that low self-esteem is indeed related to prejudice because negative evaluations of others are a way to compensate for one's own shortcomings. 5'4" probably 5'2". 😂

[@urielriley]

🎯💯 unbalanced Shorter men will always be jealous of taller men. Being 6'6 people want to box you in immediately to make themselves feel adequate.

[@nabilh.6357]

The only things that make a human better than snother is EDUCATION + WEALTH

[@aksharayadav6916]

So true.

[@ADUAquascaping]

Which is produced via a superior culture. That's why the German (Indo-European) was taking colored photographs of people who were still using obsidian projectiles? 😂. Yeah, their culture definitely wasn't and isn't still superior 😂

[@bigdawg3305]

Don't forget Wisdom.

[@dennykeaton9701]

How are these photos "racialized?"🤔

[@carlodboyer]

Please repost Human Zoos again?

[@arbaz79]

Amazing documentary as always 👍.

[@DWDocumentary]

Thank you very much for your comment!

[@lydia04]

What I get about this documentary is that it is trying to connect early photography to racism which I find a bit stretching. The photographers were documenting what they saw, the people, landscapes, houses and way of living. It is not the job of a photographer especially a factual/ documentary photographer to edit what he sees to suit a certain narrative. The photographer cannot be blamed for how people decide to interpret his photos. The truth is Africa and Africans looked the way they looked and lived, I don't see anything wrong with that, I don't see any racism in that. What is wrong is probably the interpretation that they were/are uncivilised.

[@lynnhams7723]

The notion of thinking that a photographer's influences whether personal or otherwise are removed from that which he photographs points to an Eurocentric education which views a knowledge seeker to be objective. Photographs tell stories just like writers and researchers. Thus a photographer makes the subjective option in choosing what to photograph. As for this documentary, this photographer did not go there out of his personal volition but was sent there with an agenda and as such, the photos he took had to fit that agenda. In short, the photos were biased.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@lynnhams7723Really? The photographers (and their subjects) told you that did they? So interesting how you will simultaneously decry the lack of agency in the subject and then attribute that same lack of agency to the photographer to fit a scenario that you assert must exist? This Is why people should be very careful about re-interpreting History - the variables that conflate to determine how you see it are probably several degrees removed from the environment in which it was recorded.

[@lynnhams7723]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 I have not separated the agency of the photographer. My point is the photographer was sent there to take certain kinds of pictures and the documentary is very clear about that. The photos already had a subject he was addressing. So yeah they are biased. He may also had his personal reason influencing the pictures (that also makes them biased). As for the photographed, their opinions in this documentary are lacking. Nobody is speaking for them . The photographer, has someone to speak for him to humanize him and not an object of history.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@lynnhams7723 OK ... now where's the bias? You have in your reply injected more motivations ("personal reasons" - completely unknown to you) to the photographers intentions. Hmmm ... are you sure you are not cultivating the experience to match your own predispositions? Also, the photographer and their subject are both historical. You couldn't for example seperate Leni Riefenstahl and her photographs of the Nuba and Nilotic tribes (which are amazing and open to much interpretation) - none of which probably fall under the auspices of what this documentary purports to represent. Shame they weren't included for some deeper introspection - nor a wider range of African photographs (but I fear they probably would have negated much of what this documentary was trying to assert)?

[@lynnhams7723]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 I do not know what you are even talking about. Do you even know the original thread of this conversation?

[@branscombeR]

The Russian photographer, Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii (1863-1944) began taking pictures on glass slides in three colours from 1905. A collection of his photos of pre-revolutionary Russia is held at the US Library of Congress, Washington DC. High definition prints, digitally merged, are publicly available to download at no cost. R (Australia)

[@johanngiesbrecht6460]

If you love Namibia you need to think big. Germany is the fourth largest industrial country in the world and they invest in China, Indonesia, America, Mexico, Brazil, etc. Why not more in Africa too spacialy in Namibia? Africa is the richest continent in the world in soil, treasures, minerals, fruits etc., but the people are the poorest in the world, they fight against each other and blame Europe for the past., Europe in particular Germany pays billions to Africa but hardly helps anything. Invite Germany to invest big in Namibia, to help the economy.

[@meeowgforever]

No we're good, German is being taken over by Middle Eastern, work on your home. Leave us alone, we're Africans

[@Tobi-ln9xr]

Very interesting documentary. Thank you very much.

[@MummyiLovepaddington]

We have been misinformed that colonialism have had the continent of Africa poor and depressed. Nation like Ethiopia was never colonised. What makes them poor is twenty years of communism and tribal politics. Tricky ❤

[@kalohpaul4100]

Is Ethiopia poor study before coming to type rubbish, colonialism cause far more harm than good move on

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Oh dear I get tired of correcting this: Ethiopia was briefly colonised by the Italians. It was liberated by the British in 1942 and in the following year 'elected' to finally give up slavery (1 in every 3 Ethiopians was a slave). It was left alone by the British because it was an independent African state/kingdom - sadly that meant they were able to continue practising slavery for many decades after most other African tribes/kingdoms were persuaded to give it up.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@kalohpaul4100 Silly statement - Prior to European colonisation in sub-saharan Africa the average life expectancy was 25 and the number of children who had a primary school education was 0. In most African countries life expectancy changed to 65+ and a primary school education was afforded to almost all children at the time the British Colonies were handed over. The populations of African countries increased almost 15+ -fold during colonisation. With regards to slavery no African was a slave in a British African Colony - the same cannot be said of African Nations (1 in every 3 Africans was a slave in Ethiopia in 1943). Do you really want to keep Africans enslaved, under-educated, short-lived and impoverished (I'm African(Kenyan) by the way)?

[@kalohpaul4100]

@@frankyyaggabot6222 was invaded by intact as a revenge for not being colonized, during the scramble for Africa they tried and didn’t succeed

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@kalohpaul4100 Don't think they were invaded as revenge for not being colonised. They were definitely invaded by the Italians in an expansive imperialist move (a move decried by almost all countries in the world at the time and it effectively caused the end of the League of Nations (the fore-runner to the UN)). Ethiopia was never regarded as a target for colonisation by the European Powers during their expansion into Africa (it was a definitive African state - as was Somali-land). Both these countries for example were consulted by the British as independent entities when drawing up the borders of modern day Kenya in 1920. East Africa was actually very disappointing for the European Powers - there was at the time very little of value resource-wise and they actually cost the Europeans (British and Germans) significant resources to manage.

[@kagisonkabini2021]

This just pisses me off

[@TurtleChad1]

Honestly shocked DW is talking negatively of imperialism

[@Brother_frojd]

Really? I've seen multiple docs by them where they do that

[@nevarran]

Bullshit. No one in Europe is trying to hide from the era of colonialism. Sure you have some far-right douches, like everywhere in the world. But it is thought in the schools and no serious politician or journalist is negating it.

[@stevenobinator2229]

DW is 10000% woke and pumps out left wing media non-stop. DW doesn't want ethnic Germans to exist, they even deny a German ethnicity exists, because saying you exist would be racist

[@faith5563]

Sounds educational, not racist. Terrific photography.

[@oneel3859]

Nothing Asians and Europeans didn't to Africa was not racist. There's nothing that proves otherwise

[@gbubemia]

Says a heartless racist 😂

[@magesalmanac6424]

It was exploitative which is racism. Ah but according to you lot, racism doesn’t even exist.

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

@@magesalmanac6424Exploitation is not racism - please understand the word and cease using it endlessly as a pejorative. It really is lacking in all definitive meaning today in a conversation because of that!

[@LadyCeCeFromThaDirty]

⁠@@frankyyaggabot6222 racial exploitation is racism

[@garypedigogaeu5787]

I don’t understand. I just see photos of people in Africa. What is it that makes these photos somehow racist or offensive?

[@noobsaibot8199]

Did you watch the video? I think it explained how the pictures accompanied racist propaganda.

[@beehungry6190]

The Arab slave trade is still going on with people from Africa and Asia, so lets talk about that too.

[@nxo91]

Made of real Stardust. Turn into Gold and Diamonds. Beautiful documentary.

[@candaceleonard0114]

Just exhausting!

[@olsaffa7679]

The sociology department undertone of "white guilt" is unjust. Are we judging Mongolia today because of Ginghes Khan? Are we judging Zulu because of Shaka? Shouldn't we truly see these photographs in context and say that Germany has had a conquering past, we learned from it, and today we are different people to our ancestors. Just like, hopefully, all the rest of humanity? Should we ignore the racism against white people in Africa now, because it's somehow more acceptable to ignore what is in our time than events and people in history? Commenting on colonialism and racism, without clarifying/contextualizing it universally and temporally, is irresponsible. When dealing with sensitive issues like these potentially hate generating ones, a balanced viewpoint becomes critical for the people who live today and judge history they only hear about.

[@TheDanEdwards]

"today we are different people " - First, some of the content of this video is about things not so long ago. Secondly, given this version of the video is in English, it is reaching a much wider audience (many of the viewers will be from the US, for example.) Thirdly, your assertion that "we are different" does not hold up well when looking at various events around the world.

[@ciarandevaney385]

​@@TheDanEdwardswhat events around the world?

[@olsaffa7679]

@TheOriginalDanEdwards as to your points: 1) if these events are so recent, take these people, who where responsible, to court to seek redress (if you can't, your point's falling flat in respect of recency you are claiming). 2) I don't see how the fact that an American viewer could view this, changes the points made. 3) Be specific about these "events" and who you're supposedly painting liberally with the racist brush. Take them to court or do they have the same immunity as those being racist against white people in Africa at this time in places like Namibia and South Africa where the governments enshrined laws against white people specifically. Where politicians say things like: "I'm not calling for the killing of white people yet," "Kill the Boer, the farmer," "we should cut the throught of whiteness." Don't just throw mud and see what might stick.

[@chocobossxii9457]

​@@olsaffa7679 Agreed. The people in the west know pretty much next to nothing other than how horrible white people are in today's time. Support goes out to parties like the EFF calling for the killing of farmers and "taking back their land" through violent killings, raping and torture. None of the farmer's families are getting compensation or redress for the horrendous actions and truth be told, they never will. I lived on a farm in the Free State province, it's a bloody mess around us.

[@sesaydeen]

Stupid answer... Colonization is still affecting us till this day and we have to talk about it. Not Ginghis Khan or the wealthy racist white population in Africa.

[@WendyNoto]

I don't know what the politics beyond the pictures are but the photos are gorgeous they're not racism is this is ridiculous your thumbnail. Clickbait

[@ron88303]

Maybe at some point stop blaming Europe for your present failures? Maybe do something on your own besides complain? Living in the past isn't going to help your future.

[@azadam1000]

Dude,africa is stil colonized.for example I am from north africa and we had our own country in upper north in current northern morocco ( used to be rif republic) the french came to the land put a puppet there ,they all fought our republic and morocco is now ruled by the west and the kings is their puppet .

[@MH-ro1lg]

​@@azadam1000Dude, North Africans colonized huge parts of Europe for over 800 years. You owe reparations.

[@azadam1000]

you are wrong and here is why .1 the christians in spain used to be very restrictive and violent agsint other christians ,so many christians actually were happy when the north africans came because live actually improved a lot (science and safety ) and the empire laid down foundation for west so that claimed scientific revolution after reading our stuff. The french however brought only misery and divide and conquer strategy . . @@MH-ro1lg

[@boogerbrains138]

Hard truth: Colonization is what helped underdeveloped countries move forward in modern times.

[@Nubialady32]

Hard truth colonization was evil and not needed.....

[@stevenmcgillivray9283]

How can photography be racist, it's an inanimate object?

[@jaysheriffe6292]

The video isn't talking about the photograph itself, it's abaout the narative and context surrounding the photography and what the photography is supposedly represents such as 6:49. on their own they are just photographs of random men but when you add the context of that book and what the photos are supposedly illustrating, it's just white supremascy which is obviously the text book definition of racism.

[@LennyCooke636]

It's sad to see all that suffering and humiliation. I don't think it was that bad in the Carribean where I'm from...

[@jubhgioubgob]

Shsme DQ sees no Colonial issue or propaganda when it comes to Zi0nist settler colonialism.

[@jackdaugaard-hansen4512]

Germany having an overseas empire was the worst mistake the German leadership ever did, it didn’t get anything valuable nor was there any good land, Germany should have built up its army and focused on fighting Russia instead of building up its navy and trying to challenge Britain, Russia was a power you could beat on land, you can’t beat the British at sea, all you can do is provoke them into a world war, if Germany never had an overseas empire it would have ruled all of eastern Europe, Side not: Thomas Sutton made the first coloured photo and Edward raymond tuner was the first to make coloured motion photos and films

[@pauljonas4539]

Then they say just forget it and move on

[@silverskiold7869]

Most people do…👍

[@TheAArmstrong]

Forget it move on

[@JeromeHermbert]

​@@TheAArmstrong Then you shouldn't be wining about anything

[@Piqueblinders11]

Now talk about Eastern colonialism and how Arab empires tried to colonise the west and North Africa long before Europeans colonised. Oh that’s right you won’t do that because you don’t want to be called Islamophobic 😂

[@RennmausG0ttes]

Of course they won't, Germany will eventually be a Muslim country so this german channel won't teach facts that paint Muslims in a bad light lol. Very sad

[@MP_mp20]

Great Great documentary 😢😢😢, thank you DW

[@moremiaj4786]

The germans thought their colonialism was peaceful, after they had wiped out 3/4 of the population. Yes it was peaceful. Because no one was bothering them with guilt for their actions.

[@randyraudi7725]

You know yourself that 3/4 is fantasy, the Hereros and Namas killed german settlers, and Germans killed them, the other tribes werent really affected. 40.000-60.000 Hereros were killed and 10.000 Namas. If you look at african history this is VERY peaceful overall.

[@nbgoodiscore1303]

I don't know why DW never talks about racism against white people. Being white is enough to be called an imperialist or colonialist.