The Extraordinary Story Of Lavinia Warren

Lavinia Warren was the 19th-century proportional little person who lived largely-and very lavishly. Despite being small in stature, she was huge in stardom. From her humble beginnings as a school teacher to her worldwide fame as one-half of a petite power couple, Warren did it all.
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[@dollyrama1132]

I dated a little person many years ago....I was never treated better by any guy. He was a gentleman and was gorgeous. Unfortunately, he never believed how wonderful he was..... We need to drop our prejudice against anyone that is a bit different.

[@nikkidimick947]

One of my closest friends when I was young, was a little person. He was such an awesome human. He passed when we were ten. But he had the best personality, funniest jokes and a smile that could light a room. I miss Tony to this day and wonder what he would have been like as an adult.

[@fuzzybuzzy3159]

My best friend is a little person too. My favorite photo of him is him sitting on the sofa with his grandpa's GIANT hunting rifle. My friend is only 3 foot even. You can imagine how large it looks with it laying across his lap!

[@VynylFantasy]

Oh. Wink. Wink. Fuckin, nudge nudge. We get it. ‘Little person’. That’s a dog whistle. He really means ‘lizard Jew’ or ‘n word savage’

[@atheistleopard618]

i always tell little people to never sell yourself short......no wait......

[@geographicoddity9444]

Aren’t we all a bit different?

[@richardbois5696]

I live in Middleboro, Ma (her hometown) and we have portraits of Lavinia, Tom,Minnie and Commodore Nutt hanging in our library...also,Minnie is buried in the cemetery here and has a tiny grave

[@julied6322]

I grew up in Middleboro. I loved the two portraits of Lavinia and Charles that were hanging in the library. I vaguely remember the other portraits but those were the two I remember. Helped a friend with the penny candy counter at the museum back in the 70s so was able to wander around and peruse all the exhibits. When people ask what our town is known for I say, "Cranberries (Ocean Spray) and "Tom Thumb"'s wife." Then I have to explain who Charles Stratton was.

[@StillYHWHs]

I've seen it. Having once lived in Ma. Still living in a close state. I have done most tours of many cities and towns in 60+ years. Been to all states. Canada and Mexico. Always camouflage, folk festivals and tours to learn. History is good to learn. What I never believed in. Is using people's disabilities as a money making machine. Making it almost impossible to find work that can support them. Unless they are used as mockery. It's shameful.

[@cimerti]

She is a cousin on my great Grandmother's side,her name was Lelah Warren, and was born in her lifetime

[@elizabethcallan10]

I thought her name sounded familiar I’m in Ma too

[@BrickCityBella]

So you're saying its fine for your employer to exploit your disability for monetary gain as long as they pay you well above market average and give you a place to live? Mkay

[@YochevedDesigns]

People love to say that all "freak shows" were inhumane, but they fail to realize that at least P.T. treated all of the talent with dignity, respect, and fair wages. He gave the people who worked with him a far better life than the rest of the world ever would have. He gave them a home and family. Can you say that about your employer?

[@CATAGUILAR]

It was also one of the only way to make living .

[@Uruveilhobbit]

I recall there also being some story about how freak shows advanced actual care for preemie babies. Instead of being left to die the babies were used in exhibits and the money went towards their care.

[@foxesofautumn]

Hmm did he though? He exhibited slaves who he owned up to and including their autopsies. He hired “Tom” when he was 5 and lied about his age and bought him booze. When Tom got married he sold tickets to that too. Nothing belonged to his employees. Did you get all your info about him from The Greatest Showman?

[@meganheartswell]

Martin Arthur Couney he saved thousands of babies ​@@Uruveilhobbit

[@swordforjustice]

Barnum was a temperance activist, Universalist Christian and advocate for equality. Barnum pulled his candidacy for Connecticut governor in 1853 due to the expansion of slavery into the western territory. Though he made his money in part from a circus, he likely believed it didn’t mean he could treat his employees poorly or unfairly as it was against his beliefs as a Univeralist. 🙂

[@CoffeeCupVT]

Although I enjoy other Factinate narrations, yours are the best written and best delivered. You're a real pleasure to listen to. I wish each narrator were given a credit/bio line so we could "follow" those we especially enjoy. Please keep 'em coming!

[@catherinehermansen4376]

❤❤❤ I agree and good idea.

[@Cachtice1181]

A fellow Scot 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 as narrator 😊

[@user-bx6xx6gz2r]

Now wouldn’t it be a shame for AI to take over all these narration jobs? Support Voice Over Artists!

[@dTrout-mo2rp]

Beautiful story, Your voice is wonderful for storytelling!! Thank you for taking Us along !! ✌️🌹

[@susetteoreilly5519]

What a life she had but its sad her sister passed away and then her husband.

[@winonamassingill7895]

We had a very dear friend who had maybe a similar problem. She was very small and her hands were mis- shaped. She was somewhat hump backed and might have had other deformations that one couldn’t see. She had earned her teaching degree but her parents wouldn’t allow her to teach because they were afraid that her students would laugh at her. She had a younger sister who was completely different from her. She was a large woman however she was perfectly properly for her size. They were both sweet ladies and loved 🥰 to babysit my little baby girl when I had to go to my doctor appointments. They were old enough to be my grandma.

[@tanyabrown9839]

sad that her parents held her back. Nothing much worst than to have people define you and what you can do based on just your disablity.

[@Jesussaveslifes1]

Life gave her a little lemon 🍋 and she made into a big lemonade! Smart girl! RIP, little queen with a big crown 👑

[@Classysuki]

Life never gave lemons their man made

[@lauracook8203]

​@@Classysukifirst of all, it's they're- not "their". Secondly, where exactly do you think men make lemons? At a lemon factory? 😆

[@melissaweintraub5854]

Third, this was a physical issue from before birth. Maybe the issue came from her father’s side, if you really want to blame it on man.

[@AmysAttitude]

​@@lauracook8203They literally make children in a petri dish.. Are you being serious or do you not know that many things were created by man and not God?? You'd learn more if you matured and stop being childish and sarcastic.

[@slumcrowthecraven5307]

Lemons were originally a hybrid but are now a species growing on lemon trees. Its called evolution dear. Like dogs, cats, cattle, wheat corn and just about every domesticated plant and animal.

[@sharoncumiskey4738]

She is from Middleborough, MA and we have a museum! As a student who spent afternoons at our public library I was looked down on by a nearly life size painting.

[@artemisnectar7]

She was beautiful 🙏🏽❤ thx 4 postn..

[@hannakinn]

I'm related to Lavinia Warren via my mother's side of the family in not one but two branches of my mom's family tree. Lavinia and her sister are in my family tree via a 12th great grandfather. Interestingly on my paternal fanily tree I'm distantly related, via my father's mother, to Eng and Chang Butler (famous Siamese twins) via their wives who were sisters. My grandmother used to tell me family stories about Eng and Chang, things about them that I've never read in print. If my mom had not tasked me to do genealogical research I'd never have known I was related to Lavinia's family.

[@Factinate]

Small world! Thanks for sharing.

[@ShenaThompson-wi7te]

Would have been nice to get Chang & Eng's surname correct. I believe it was Bunker not Butler.

[@Dia_7hom]

@@ShenaThompson-wi7teprobably autocorrect

[@ShenaThompson-wi7te]

@@Dia_7hom Understood - nightmare!

[@Dia_7hom]

@@ShenaThompson-wi7tehappens to me all the time, my phone thinks it knows better 😂 it probably does, it’s a smart phone and I’m a dumbo 😂

[@ceilconstante640]

I really enjoy Factinate videos! Great naration, photos and you always choose good background music. Wishing everyone a happy Easter if you celebrate or simply a nice Sunday.

[@Brightangel55]

Happy Easter to you too

[@Factinate]

Thanks for the kind words 🎉

[@PhDrSeuss]

🐣happy Easter🐣

[@anniewardlow9297]

As usual, a story I never would've heard if not for this channel. The only thing better than the stories themselves, is the way that they're told. Excellent content thank you! 👍

[@Factinate]

🥹

[@Rose-ne6xq]

Well done and beautifully recited 😊❤

[@reneecarter6702]

They made an elegant couple ❤❤

[@A-Grammie-On-the-ROCK]

So interesting ! I had no idea about this little lady who married Tom Thumb. She was pretty and smart to be sure !

[@Naomi-pq6tv]

Charles Stratton was a relative on my maternal grandmother's side of the family.

[@trejea1754]

Not a “large infant”, a normal size infant.

[@K-a-n-d-i-s]

Yeah wtf

[@TheLoveweaver]

It would have been large in comparison to her.

[@moonprincessRN]

People expected that any baby she had would be a tiny "fairy" baby because she was so small. She and her sister were both born normal size. Having a real baby would have killed her, as it did her sister. She remained celibate her whole life (despite her marriage) because she was terrified of dying in childbirth.

[@giaatta9303]

You provide more details than wikipedia excellent. Thank you

[@shellyannhan8279]

Its amazing she lived to be 78 yrs old. The death rate was much higher then.

[@MountainwithaView]

People lived much longer than today .... they include children up 5 years old, if you leave the children out you get the correct age.

[@deadwalking100]

Some really nice research there. A very interesting story, well told. Many thanks!

[@spicencens7725]

Well done! Fascinating life she lived!

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

In Chester NH, I was friends with a relative of Commodore Nutt. Also with last name Nutt. We both did good things for the local library. She was short, but not that short. (Not an official 'Little Person.')

[@strellasmith777]

Your video was very interesting and well done, but I doubt the truth would have “broken” anyone. Mildly surprised them perhaps… Some of the hyperbole in these thumbnails is ridiculous. 🙄

[@K-a-n-d-i-s]

Thanks ive been watching and halfway through already bored so glad i saw this comment , bye! Lol

[@madeleine7411]

Wonderful video. Such a great narration!

[@michaelsnider2484]

Great video, thanks!!

[@lisadunphy41]

I’ve seen the film freaks…. So sad, yet so interesting. I’ve got it on VHS x

[@lisadunphy41]

Their voices were so sweet x

[@heidibee501]

*It's almost like entering a different world.* I'm happy for her that she chose the life she did. It worked for her and it seems people loved her for who and what she was...unique. It is sad that she lost her sister and her husband but for someone with an anomalous condition she lived to a ripe old age.

[@alynneflanery9918]

the problem is that - that lifestyle afforded her a better lifestyle than she could have gotten any other way....

[@zathtanks]

She appeared to have enjoyed it large

[@zathtanks]

She is beautiful though

[@marthahill1377]

Yes sadly.

[@lindamoser6317]

Watched for first time and really enjoyed the video. I did subscribe too. ❤

[@lindaroloff34]

Borrowing babies is cruel. How confusing for a young child to be returned to an orphanage.

[@yndrelbosch3678]

They were... babies? Not only are they incapable of such complex thoughts they likely wouldn't remember, and even for the rare few who did I don't think they would have looked back on those memories all that much.

[@sandralauzon9416]

Though awful....a sign of the times

[@YeshuaKingMessiah]

Babies They didn’t care

[@tanyabrown9839]

They were tiny babies, it would have been just like going to a baby sitters for them. If anything they may have been treated better and got more attention on those outings outside of an orphanage as orphanages were usually horrible places and I'd think there babies would not have got much attention.

[@efitz3397]

It’s been proven that the first five years of a baby’s life are very important in laying down the foundations for life. A baby that’s emotionally traumatised and in these cases there are a lot of issues. Being brought up in an orphanage, taken away by complete strangers, placed on show and then returned are all very problematic for their future mental and emotional health. Granted it was in a world that didn’t know this and where cruelty was a part of everyday life.

[@caroliner2029]

Thank you, that was an interesting biography. It's very satisfying to know that a person in life who has a unique set of circumstances to deal with, finds love with another person who understands, as they too have their own load to bear. What a sad end for Minnie and her baby, although she would have been overjoyed at being a mother, and had the chance to experience it however briefly.

[@user-fe9hp9qf4h]

Fascinating!!! Thanks love Julie south Africa 💯💚🌹

[@anthonysheppard9247]

Great channel ,this guy is the best narrator on the channel ,,

[@ralsharp6013]

Very interesting story thank you😊

[@maryhook9478]

Lovely courageous indomitable human spirit.

[@Philly_girl]

Love your choice! Very interesting and DIFFERENT!!! It's not like I would ever know to research her and her story! Refreshingly different and very interesting!! Will be watching for more!!

[@sheilagravely5621]

Excellent. Thanks ❤

[@karladoane7323]

Interesting story thanks for sharing it.

[@ooo4616]

Loved this story. Loved your humour too regarding Nutt also. 😂

[@elisaa9981]

The video was good. Your accent is amazing!

[@dredra7160]

Wonderful story. I never heard of her, but of course was familiar with Tom. I liked the history with Lincoln and the civil war and found it very interesting. Thank you.

[@jujumulligan43]

Very very interesting. I had heard of her before but this was a definitive history of her life. I also love the accent of the narrator...an added plus.

[@rvrgrrl]

Very interesting story, and nicely done!

[@skyd.2084]

So adorable and very informative thank you 👍

[@susancammerer5350]

"Imagine being too ugly to be in a circus!" LOL

[@frugalnut7113]

I was looking for this comment! 😂

[@margm4]

Thanks for that story…such an interesting lady. 😍🇦🇺

[@margo_gogo]

I love your voice and sarcasm

[@luteal38]

I have to agree. Your comment actually made me LOL a few times 😂. That’s one of the things that makes these videos so enjoyable.

[@OlyChickenGuy]

I believe this is the first video I've caught of yours, and I quite enjoyed it!

[@Factinate]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@OlyChickenGuy]

@@Factinate It was very well presented, and I much appreciated the abundance of pictures that you collected for visual examples of the story being told ("you" or "the team"; I don't yet know how this channel works). Enunciation was good, editing was smooth, and most importantly to me, the story was told respectfully.

[@carolflynn7933]

Thank you

[@cindybriden372]

I dated a little person many moons ago. His size did not bother me however, it was a great insecurity to him which is why I had to break up with him. His insecurity about me leaving him for a "normal" sized man was to great for me.

[@12thDecember]

Thank you for showcasing Lavinia Warren. She certainly had an interesting life, with the notable blemish of exploiting orphaned infants. I wonder if her epitaph, "His Wife," was at her request.

[@heidibee501]

The orphans had a day out and were safely returned. For them it was probably a win, and if someone mentioned it to them later on it was probably an interesting anecdote for them to share.

[@KatieBellino]

@@heidibee501 My thought too. Yes, borrowing an infant sounds messed up, but a child of that age isn't aware enough to think they've been adopted and then given back. It's no worse than babysitting for a day. Lavinia also may have really enjoyed getting to hold the babies. A lot of women would.

[@opeltheartist]

"His wife" That hurts 😢 She deserved better, seemed like a real stand-up gal ❤

[@monkmell]

Really enjoyed this video. The subtle intricacies of life eh? 😊

[@Factinate]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yes... life.

[@scathatch]

What an extraordinary woman. How disgusting that she wasnt honoured at the same level as General Tom Thumb. Typical misogyny of the day. She was obviously an incredibly clever, courageous and astute woman. The baby business is horrible and shows how ruthless she and the others were. Poor little babes.

[@annewelch-uk1of]

Although I'm five feet tall, I have been patted on the head as if I'm a child. It's humiliating.

[@maddannafizz]

Utter rudeness 😢

[@djt8518]

My wife was 4ft 2 she hated that too

[@cimerti]

This is my cousin!

[@hulavibez]

I enjoy your channel! Can you do one on Lana Turner, please?

[@theresas740]

Cheryl Crane's book, "Detour: a Hollywood Story" is a great read for a Lana Turner fan.

[@bettydavis7904]

Awesome!

[@flowersforthedead5182]

There is a book about her life. According to said book Commodore Nutt married her little sister and she died in childbirth. A death that Vinnie feared with every bone in her body. you see when she was a small child they had a cow on their farm with a similar condition as herself and her mother and aunt watched in horror as that poor little cow tried to give birth to a normal sized baby. Vinnie never allowed her marriage to be consumated and the series of fake babies they had while on tour broke her little sisters heart as she was the one who cared for them. it was this very thing that drove Minnie to seek motherhood regardless of the fate it could bring her. There was a song written about her death as it was so very sad.

[@MamaGator]

😭 that is devastating 🕯️❤️‍🔥🌱

[@patsy205]

Very interesting

[@hotwireman49]

One of the themes in this video is so familiar to me but I can't quite put my finger on it. I wonder if you could give me a list of the tracks you use for this video. It can be heard at 26 seconds in and forward. Is it from the movie Hook??

[@nicolad8822]

Well there’s some of Tchaikovsky’s The Nutcracker in there.

[@ailsadixon408]

The peice at 0.26 is 'the Aquarium' from the Carnival of the Animals by Saint-Saëns hope that helps 😊

[@LizzyDidntDoIt]

What a beautiful voice

[@maggiestrasser9815]

"Imagine being a baby that's too ugly for the circus"! 9:34 Oh my goodness, thanks for the laugh.

[@clanogden]

Very interesting story

[@izzy6455]

What wonderful people. ❤

[@abijahdixon2771]

Poor orphan babies...but amazing story, thanks for sharing.

[@helenawarsinnak]

Great video as always!!! It's sad how they just used babies from different orphanages just as "props"..... WE ALL know that today that most definitely would NOT be allowed!! I had also found it heartbreaking when Lavinia passed away, she did not receive a big beautiful turn down as her husband had.... Andher tombstone only states "his wife" as if he was always placed first/or he was more important 😡.... Since she unfortunately had no children, I wonder where/who the rest of her estate went too?!?!

[@heidibee501]

She seemed very solicitous of him in life. Maybe she wanted him to shine.

[@emilybach]

I, honestly, would also rather be only know as "his wife". Perhaps that was what she wished to be remembered not simply for the adventures she was a part of but remembered for a role that might have meant more to her than anything else.

[@heidibee501]

@@emilybach In those days women took their roles as wife very seriously. She would have looked at the tombstone approvingly. She may have even left those instructions with someone. She wanted him to draw the attention. Obviously it was a love match.

[@emilybach]

@heidibee501 Yes, they did. I wish more women understood how important the role of wife is. It is such an honor to walk through life beside a good man; to stand behind him and be his comfort. It is the most important role for a woman that is married.

[@PrincessDiana1220]

@@emilybachare you FLDS?

[@deealex1402]

very interesting. she is surely very doll like. beautiful little lady

[@marccarter1350]

but no footage of the fight 😞

[@fjolliff6308]

Someone should fix her gravestone. Or make some sort of memorial to her nearby.

[@truecynic1270]

Humans are SO depraved and predatory regardless of personal interpretation and/or perspective. As a curious outsider , it's always sad to read how any human can exploit for profit any other human. ....but then I also feel that way about the exploitation of animals. This is, however, a very interesting video so I thank YOU for sharing it!! And now I've subscribed to your channel....................

[@price-singspuccini6124]

And yet many of these “exploited” people would say that you’re robbing them of their livelihood if they can’t be presented and paid as an oddity . She apparently lived a lavish lifestyle. One she couldn’t have had if she remained a teacher.

[@truecynic1270]

@@price-singspuccini6124 Of course, you make an excellent point and I agree with you as well. I suppose the line should be drawn if it's personal choice to be " put on display" or "used for entertainment ( gee, I just thought of strippers and prostitutes) I guess in my mind, since in today's world "we're" supposed to be more accepting of differences and disabilities and "side shows" are no longer, my earlier comment wasn't really thoughtful..........

[@YochevedDesigns]

@@truecynic1270 You have to be careful not to view the past with a modern lens. One of Lavinia's dresses would have cost at least a year's wages to an average woman at that time.

[@truecynic1270]

@@YochevedDesigns Thank you for a true reminder☺

[@edie4321]

Yes, the exploitation of animals. Just the fact that the bible gives us dominion over them makes me question that god. We are equals, they may even be our superiors, and I pray that people wake up to this and stop torturing and eating animals. If they have to eat them, make sure you gave them a good life first. We can use animal products without all the mistreatment, poisons, and torture.

[@dolorescovington403]

WOW! I knew who Tom Thumb is, but had no idea he had a wife and a child! When people talk about him, they only talk about him, not his family. You said her sister gave birth to a large child, do you mean she gave birth to a child without dwarfism? If that's true, no wonder she didn't make it. I don't think c-sections were known at that time in history, but it wasn't very long after they started performing them. Back then, Dr's didn't check pregnant women like they do now. In the Victorian period, if I remember right, they still didn't know anything about the inside of people, especially pregnant women. The only reason they knew about mens' insides are because a man had a huge war wound in his stomach that left a large flap of open skin that could be lifted up and he lived, and allowed the Dr's to lift the flap and observe what happened when he ate, and did other things and they recorded it and made drawings. That's how they learned about mens intestines, but it would be many more years before they knew what was going on inside a woman.

[@MompreneurDiary]

My goodness, she is tye most gorgeous little woman i have ever seen. ❤

[@beehungry6190]

No one got away with not working back then or you died. So sad about her sister and the baby and the orphans used as props.

[@amadeusamwater]

You should do the other end of this story, 7'4" Anna Swan and her 7' husband Martin Bates.

[@TashMagesh]

The fact that you really looked for that fight footage and the fact that I was really looking forward to watching it. We're probably going to hell.. Enjoyed your video and the story. She was a beautiful woman who lived an interesting life.

[@peggyjaeger9280]

Those poor babies.

[@Wheelchairspeeder]

My mom is a dwarf and I adore her and I'm short too but not like mom yet my mom's a character

[@ellecee453]

But what happened to the lovelorn Commodore Nutt?

[@MermaidMakes]

He had to Commodore Nutt in his socks for the rest of his life 😢

[@PrincessDiana1220]

@@MermaidMakesfor some weird reason I chuckled at your comment. But not nice.

[@MermaidMakes]

@@PrincessDiana1220 I’m sorry, I couldn’t help myself. I truly hope he found love.

[@Heather-eh7du]

They named their dwarf daughter Minnie Right mom done

[@maryhook9478]

A True American Story. God Bless America!

[@bricology]

Just FYI: being made a count (by a pope, a king, or anyone else) does _not_ make anyone "royalty". It makes them part of the *aristocracy* or *nobility.* "Royalty" is a separate category from aristocracy/nobility, and it applies exclusively to the family of the reigning monarch.

[@lauraleecreations3217]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@bethanyhanna9464]

Wow! Lavinia Warren looks so much like Zelda Rubinstien who played Tangina Barrons (the psychic) in Poltergeist 1982. I wonder if they're related.🤔

[@moonprincessRN]

Zelda Rubinstein did not have dwarfism.

[@squizzyicetea]

Reminds me of 13th Ghost

[@user-ct3mu4xk5v]

Great gifts come in small packages!!

[@user-cm6lg5eo9x]

The pinniped on horseback in the footage is a Sea Lion, not a Seal - Sea Lions have longer front flippers than Seals; while Sea Lions can walk on their flippers, Seals can’t; Sea Lions also have ear flaps, Seals have ear holes.

[@christineweaver3090]

Lincoln was taller than the hemsworth brothers,jason momoa,skarsgards?

[@karawilliamson106]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@nschlaak]

These two special people were treated as royalty in Abraham Lincoln's Whitehouse.

[@gerrimilner9448]

people stare at people that are different, the more diferent the more they stare. making lots of money out of that curiosity especially if other avenues of income are blocked is genious

[@allisonlew4508]

She was pretty.

[@user-oz4oy1kb3r]

I don't care how proper she thought herseelf to be. To exploit orphans Is barbaric !

[@Brightangel55]

Of course...but few would have seen any harm in it at the time. We don't go along to gawk at human oddities now either.

[@angelbear_og]

Wait til you hear about this place called Hollywood and what THEY do to children...

[@user-oz4oy1kb3r]

@@Brightangel55 Yes mom ! I'll study that more cuz I didn't say it like you did !

[@Brightangel55]

@@user-oz4oy1kb3r 😅

[@tiredtears4177]

She most likely had no say in it.

[@barbarabrooks4747]

At least Barnum portrayed these little people in a respectful way as talented and in aristrocratic, rather than as slapstick , vulgar show. It's great that they were able to meet the Queen and were well-paid. It's tragic that animal bladder condoms were illegal in the United States. Certainly these could have saved countless lives of high risk mothers.

[@angeldee7287]

Videos were produced back then, and their movie machines were much more sophisticated than ours today.

[@SyIe12]

👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@DelphineDenton]

I think it would have been nicer if they had the baby in the show and then at the end of each performance, they gave the child back with many beautiful photos from the performance and a little money to put ads out. The ads could have been looking for prospective families, hoping it would give them a better chance of adoption.

[@helenahopkinson381]

Lavinia needs a statue like her late first husband Tom