Facts Don't Matter

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This video was first published on June 30th 2020 for IM Premium subscribers. Sources: Chicago’s Deadliest Weekend: chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/6/8/21281998/chicago-deadliest-day-violence-murder-history-police-crime FBI Homicide Stats: ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls Coleman Hughes article: www.city-journal.org/reflections-on-race-riots-and-police?Twitter&Organic_Social Eric Garner Case: edition.cnn.com/2020/06/23/us/eric-garner-officer-misconduct-complaints/index.html Fryer Paper: www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf WSJ article: www.wsj.com/articles/what-the-data-say-about-police-11592845959?mod=opinion_lead_pos5

[@darunealbane]

From what i read if you look at per 100k police interactions if you W higher chance then B for all that crap happening

[@adamsnell2088]

Yup

[@rayvenblakk5940]

HERE IS A BIG SURPRISE CHICAGO HAS BEEN A GANGSTER CITY FOR A HUNDRED YEARS, THERE WAS THIS GUY YOU MAY OF HEARD OF NAMED AL CAPONE. THE MURDER RATE WAS SO HIGH THAT THEY DIDNT NOTICE A SERIAL KILLER NAMED H H HOMES. SO YOUR FIRST SENTENCE IS BULL SHIT, IT ONLY MATTERS WHEN BLACK PEOPLE DO IT NOT COPS OR WHITE PEOPLE.

[@rayvenblakk5940]

I KNOW I am being an asshole about this which will make you defensive and ignore my FACTS, oh well BUT LOOK UP JON BURGE OF CHICAGO.

[@CRobinsonpk]

Former police officer with a degree in Criminology here. What this video says is 100% accurate.

[@chairmanmeow8388]

I'm a sexy sexy man and I agree also.

[@AKUJIVALDO]

Except GF wasn't "murdered". So not 100% accurate.

[@mikkovaltonen3564]

Just like there were news headlines in my country about "Concerning rise in the suicide rates of young women in Japan". Completely ignoring the fact that an overwhelming majority of people who commit suicide, in Japan and globally, are MEN. If it doesn't fit the narrative, it's not talked about.

[@dab9122]

A passionate commitment to social justice is no substitute for knowing what the hell you're talking about.

[@jasongrundy1717]

It's actually a great substitute, it's gotten them what they wanted all along, destruction, violence and death.

[@Billydevito]

2:45 Tony Timpa was not a criminal. He was off his meds and suffering from paranoid delusions of persecution and called the police because he felt unsafe. The attending police restrained him because they feared he would run out onto the road and be struck by a passing vehicle. He died whilst being restrained in a similar fashion to George Floyd. Floyd however was a criminal with a long history and was resisting arrest at the time of his death from a heart condition aggravated by ingesting a large amount of fentanyl he attempted to hide from arresting police. Where are the riots for Tony Timpa?

[@12cm32]

Never let the facts interfere with politics!!! Or racism; Or free speech; Or muh feelings...

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Free Speech is an antidote manipulation of facts, half- truths and lies.

[@knaudi86]

So this video is over 6 months old and still completely accurate

[@interestingiftrue8668]

ironically proving facts do matter...

[@ExPwner]

Slight correction: George Floyd was not murdered.

[@Nukestarmaster]

At worst it was negligence, and that is highly disputable.

[@ExPwner]

@@Nukestarmaster exactly

[@jasongrundy1717]

He murdered himself.

[@Nukestarmaster]

@@jasongrundy1717 No his death was almost certainly accidental on his part, so negligent manslaughter at most.

[@v5k456jh3]

He overdised on drugs as expected

[@kappazo2268]

BLM does counter this data when brought up saying that it is racist to do so, thereby shutting down any debate.

[@lestatangel]

Justice is a word that does not need a modifier. - E. Fox

[@benbunyip]

Brilliant. All the facts laid out.

[@NervousNoodles]

Doesn't matter how accurate the facts are to them activists. As long as it fits their narrative, they will go along with it. Otherwise, it will be discarded very quickly.

[@benbunyip]

@@NervousNoodles the truth will win out if we keep presenting the truth.

[@NervousNoodles]

@@benbunyip Oh, I wasn't against the perseverance of trying to combat their lies with facts - it's the most powerful weapon you have. What I wanted to clarify was that the truth rarely (if ever) satisfies them enough to change their minds. It usually has rather the opposite effect by pushing them further and further into their ideologies.

[@norbetjagamara5536]

Yes he did lay out some facts. Police are 53% more likely to use physical force on a black person, are more likely to be shot while unarmed, and are 21% more likely to suffer police aggression.

[@benbunyip]

@@NervousNoodles yeah, I understand.

[@TheMemesofDestruction]

No one would ever treat their opinion as fact on the Internet.

[@azimuthclark462]

Kelly Thomas. Warning, its very sad. But it was a white guy, and there's no $ in that

[@ek5273]

You know someone is full of shit when they use phrases like "lived experiences" and "my truth"

[@clucas101]

'murder' of George Floyd. Hm.

[@944play]

So how did Mr. Floyd die?

[@michaelpettersson4919]

@@944play That is for the court to figure out.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

No the court will decide if those accused are guilty of the crimes they are charged with. Odd that Mr Floyd started to complain about inability to breath before the police removed him from the car but after he had ingested that lethal dose of fentanyl!

[@norbetjagamara5536]

George Floyd was murdered by Derek Chauvin. This is a fact.

[@michaelpettersson4919]

@@norbetjagamara5536 Wait for the court...

[@Gringosaurus]

I’m always very skeptical of those types of studies in regards to police using physical violence. Are they getting this from the police report or are they contacting the victims and asking were police rough with you? That’s like saying most of the people in prison are innocent because we asked all the prisoners.

[@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066]

Oh yes, 'Were the police rough with you [whilst apprehending you trying to mug a pregnant woman] you poor victim?'

[@1a2aTia]

@@BaronMichaelDeBlone1066 👍🏽😆

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

Lol thinking that the police are a viable source. It smells of leather in here.

[@DrGingerHamster]

Oh IM. You and your 'facts'. Facts don't matter. It's 'lived experience' aka anecdotes, that count.../sarc...

[@ponytaj]

Floyd wasn't murdered.

[@robbiewesley6572]

Thank you for an excellent statistics job. Unfortunately I doubt I will be able to influence any of my friends on the bandwagon with any of it but I can smile in my head when they are spouting unsubstantiated beliefs

[@Shootskas]

Look up Tony Timpa

[@TECHN01200]

There is an interesting system of incentives that activist organizations share with governments and that is they get paid more the worse the problem is. It is why both sets of tumors still exist along with the problems they are all meant to solve.

[@dartheinnulfr8986]

I’m Black and I’ve said this for years! In my hood some of these fools turn the street into a war zone over stupid ass beefs. Got my partner killed and he was just leaving a ball game. No marching no public outcry just a got damn t shirt. It’s only an issue when a cop kills one of us.

[@noway2222]

Never let the facts get in the way of a good story…or a crap story for that matter!!

[@bribengal1968]

You sure got the title correct. But the premise is wrong because of course facts don't matter when you lie about your motives.

[@stevej02]

Real shit right here. I applaud your bravery speaking the truth. Pls keep doing it!!!

[@bradbecker8982]

People don’t care about certain fundamental facts because they hold morals that contradict said facts. A priest wouldn’t see what’s wrong with self sacrifice, just like a rational person wouldn’t see a problem with self interest. Ayn Rand was correct to say that selfishness was a virtue when acted upon rationally.

[@SkotiM]

Excellent well presented video

[@surfinwax58]

James Lancia also pointed this out and more in his book Downtown White Police.

[@naughtyskywalker9292]

_Burn them all._ - A rational king

[@davidjensen2411]

Solution: Bust the Police Unions.

[@Gringosaurus]

My spouse is a police officer and the furgason effect is very real.

[@bluetickfreddy101]

Truth N Math B Racists N Shit!

[@cazrealist1]

So glad I found your channel again after youtu.be took away my other channels look forward to more of your content coming my way

[@davidalen9279]

Brilliant.

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

Police use of force depends on the demeanor/ size/ strength of the person thy are dealing with... Police will move faster with NON lethal force if they judge that a person could be more then they could handle, if the situation got out of control... Also when an intimidating crowd is gathering, the Police are more likely to judge it is better to take complete control of the situation, with force if necessary.

[@awnaur0no919]

What are facts, Jack? A game we have to play Stumbling blocks, Jack, scattered in our way By our foes, Jack, cowardly enemies With whom facts, Jack, apparently agree What are facts, Jack? It's always puzzled me When I take power, Jack, there'll be some changes, see When I've bagged, Jack, the presidency Facts will knock, Jack, before they visit me What are facts, Jack? I tell you day is night If you like, Jack, you can say I'm right All that counts is to agree with what I say Facts are crap, Jack, they get in the way What are facts, Jack? What are they anyway? Everything's interpretation anyway Fentanyl fiends killed by cops, a point of view to spin If you like, Jack, its always happening Fact-check Jack, you haven't got a clue You check facts, have you nothing real to do? Check this out, Jack, power is all that counts Power, power and power, power, power and power power What are facts, Jack, strap them to the bed Wave a stun prod around their pretty heads Facts shrink fast before a taser or a gun Facts are cowards, Jack, just like anyone Fact check Jack, let me make this clear Facts are dead, Jack, starting next year Me and Koomala, Jack, have a little plan From Jan 1, Jack, facts are banned

[@1a2aTia]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Bravo! Thunder applause!!!

[@zoompt-lm5xw]

Well said! We need more!

[@awnaur0no919]

@@zoompt-lm5xw I nearly forgot the tick of the clock Until my hero died, yeah I nearly forgot the tick of the clock Until my leader lied, yeah The chug of the feed I reluctantly read Into the white and blue The hands of the clock, the wall of the dock The swell of the rising tide, yeah The beautiful girls who take me away From thoughts of my suicide, yeah The sting of the rain, the weather has changed We're now in some parallel world And DMX is dead, my father is dead And the US has sailed away, yeah And neoliberal tools punk us like fools Gilding their power with our pain, yeah And everyone's fine, but everyone's dying The people who mattered are gone And this, I am told, is how you get old The need to be out of touch, yeah I don't want to be in harmony With all of this shit that I hate so much, yeah The tick of the clock, the creep of the rot Eating the future away

[@anon9579]

Facts are the only thing that matters

[@VegetoStevieD]

Turns out that's not true. Facts don't matter. Liars are winning.

[@eddiebernays514]

we need police reform in america, but we also need CULTURE reform.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

No we don't. Criminals will be criminals. You can't legislate it.

[@josephbrady711]

Stats and facts will always win

[@LastBankJob]

I hate to say it but I think that is wrong.

[@VegetoStevieD]

Liars are winning.

[@colinfarren8326]

Your "facts" and "data" don't matter to me!!!!!!! Only my emotions matter dammit!!!

[@djgroopz4952]

Policing has severe problems in the US. BLM is not the solution to this problem.

[@jasongrundy1717]

It doesn't. Talking about the real problem gets your comment deleted by YT however.

[@TheoTungsten]

Indépendant man, could you please link the sources in the description in following videos. I am a subscriber, but I've noticed that you and people like you almost never do it.

[@schroedingerscat2.054]

Just Google the article or the research paper itself. He literally gave the names at the start. Furthermore, what do you mean, "people like you"?

[@IndependentManSpeaks]

Actually I always, without exception include all sources in all my videos just as I have with this one as a pinned comment.

[@TheoTungsten]

@@IndependentManSpeaks Ah, okay.

[@beayn]

@@IndependentManSpeaks I don't see a pinned comment yet. The list of white people killed by police should be handy when arguing with leftists online.

[@righteousviking]

Whale whale whale...

[@kadebaker4099]

never been this early

[@pollardmchdea]

I don't understand why more discord is not being held why censor, or ignore the situation on the ground? violence breeds more violence and the only result so far is filled body bags and no changes good or bad, wasted death on both sides of the battle lines.

[@damnjustassignmeone]

I don’t necessarily disagree with this video, but I find it pretty rich when either end of the political spectrum claims they’re the ones with a monopoly on the truth. I’m conservative on many social and economic issues, but you know what keeps me from calling myself a conservative? It’s that, at least in the U.S., the reality is that I too many areas, facts don’t matter to conservatives. Covid is one example. Conservatives have refused to believe scientists. They’ve refused to wear masks. Now they refuse to be vaccinated. My wife is a physician. We think this is absurd. Another example is global warming. The facts are absolutely clear now, but conservatives just ignore what they don’t want to hear. Anyhow, both sides have major blind spots. That’s why I don’t align with either.

[@VegetoStevieD]

I'm not a conservative either, but "trust the science" is obviously YOUR blindspot. Logical fallacy of appeal to authority is your weakness. You need to work on it because an extremely significant portion of the scientific fields have been hijacked for purpose. FWI, I was paying attention to the covid case before you even heard about it. The first videos that were coming out of Wuhan, showed people suddenly collapsing in the streets. Then it changed, and the videos disappeared. Then it changed again. Then around a month later, the first reports of it showed up in the U.S, which is probably around the time you first heard of it. You have no idea what you're talking about. Everyone knows someone who is a physician. Stop using logical fallacy of appeal to authority, it's making you stupid.

[@norbetjagamara5536]

What are you trying to say? You seem to not understand the fact that police are funded by taxpayers and criminals in Chicago are not, you go on a random rant about black on black murders which have nothing to do with police brutality, you proceed on with some stories of police brutality against white people as if that somehow makes brutality against blacks ok, you then go on to cite statistics that prove police are 53% more likely to use physical force on black people, they are 21% more likely to suffer police aggression than compliant white people, and are more likely to be shot while unarmed, but then near the end you cite a study which finds there are no racial differences in officer involved shootings and on that alone you somehow come to the conclusion that there is no racism and BLM don't think facts matter? How did you come to such a gigantic leap in logic? There is undoubtedly systemic racism within the police force.