Big 3 Girl Group Dance Ranking

Dance technique ranking (with a focus on commercial dance/kpop girl group choreo demands)
#kpop #redvelvet #twice #blackpink #itzy #aespa #lisa #momo #seulgi
Chapters:
00:00 Explanation
01:05 Below Average
08:55 Average
19:42 Above Average
26:02 In defense of Karina
29:28 Decent/Developed
40:56 Strong

[@facts_in_fiction]

Editing to say that I don't have a strong opinion about the last places, currently I don't think Giselle should be last. "Average" refers to the average skill level to be able to dance kpop choreo without major problems, not to the average skill level in the industry.

[@theophilus1981]

Is it possible to make a video on how groups look as a whole? Like difficulty of choreo, execution, synchronicity,strengths, stage presence. Just a thought

[@PoussinNoNeko]

This is the best, well-explained and unbiaised video I've seen so far! For (amateur) dancers, it's actually very valuable!

[@aesenario]

Slayy😊

[@peonylarkspur645]

i honestly am astounded by how well wendy bounced back from her injury like. she took the year to heal and came back and is absolutely crushing

[@chrissyalapo-calg9748]

omg YAS, I really think ppl aren't giving her enough credit for this, like we didn't even know if she'd be able to dance again let alone, as well as she did before, but she really came back and did better than she had before, like ??? She's definitely inspirational, and I guess that's what happens when you love performing and it really shows when you see her on stage ❤‍🔥I'm just so glad she's able to continue living her dream

[@eyebrowstj]

​@@chrissyalapo-calg9748 I agree. Wendy is my favorite dancer in Red Velvet. She's not even better than Seulgi and Irene but I think she looks the best while performing the choreography. There is something more eye catching about her dancing. She had the best dynamics. She's also working on being more detailed with her movements and her isolations have improved drastically since debut.

[@reveluvly]

God, it really shows just how insane the talent is in the 3rd gen trio from the Big 3. Red Velvet, TWICE, and BLACKPINK continue to astound me

[@amaantambu9794]

BLACKTWICEVELVET SUPREMACY!!!💫💫

[@akamesb4540]

@@amaantambu9794 unity

[@uglycow6204]

no really rose is literally such a good dancer and she's still #16.. thats how talented 3rd gen are..

[@goldenhourss]

@@amaantambu9794waiting for a collab that’ll never come😢

[@greenthinggg]

The holy trinity itself I still love these group's till this day

[@qianminmak8498]

Strong: 1. Momo 46:42 2. Lisa 42:49 3. Seulgi 40:57 Decent/Developed: 4. Chaeryeong 38:49 5. Ryujin 34:59 6. Yeji 33:07 (4-6 are interchangeable) 7. Jihyo 31:23 8. Yuna 29:28 Above Average 9. Karina 26:02 10. Nayeon 24:48 11. Irene 23:28 12. Sana 22:33 13. Chaeyoung 20:58 14. Winter 19:41 Average: 15. Ningning 17:40 16. Rosé 16:32 17. Wendy 14:46 18. Jennie 13:11 19. Mina 12:08 20. Tzuyu 10:54 21. Jeongyeon 9:56 22. Dahyun 8:55 Below average: 23. Yeri 7:15 24. Joy 5:56 25. Jisoo 4:53 26. Lia 2:22 27. Giselle 1:05 - I made a list and time stamp for those who wanna revise. Thank you again for making this video pretty useful for own reflection too!

[@kyl6864]

It's wrong for Yeji, Ryujin, and Chaeryeong. They are interchangable depending on style preference so either one of them could rank 4, 5, or 6.

[@ruedesfleurs8279]

Thank you

[@julescruz1247]

1. Lisa- greatest (95) 2. Momo- greatest (94.5) 3. Yeji- greatest (92.5) 4. Chaeryoung- greatest (92.25) 5. Seulgi- greatest (92) 6. Jihyo- only member who can match Momo's energy (not technique) 7. Ryujin- boy concept 8. Mina- emotionless 9. Rosé- great technique 10. Sana- charismatic/ gives what any concept required 11. Yuna 12. Ningning- other menbers need to catch up with her stage presence 13. Wendy- stable energy 14. Tzuyu- great dancer but face not looking confident 15. Karina 16. Winter 17. Joy 18. Irene- lack emotion 19. Nayeon 20. Chaeyoung- underdance 21. Jennie- lazy but bomb when overdance to parts she wants to overshadow others 22. Jeongyeon- gain weight but still decent dancer/ now breathy 23. Dahyun- most flexible but facial expression always the same 24.Yeri 25. Jisoo- improved/ not fit in BP concept 26. Lia- good dancer but far behind from other member 27. Giselle- No stage presence

[@vivianqluv]

​@@julescruz1247shut up.

[@mariams5039]

​@@julescruz1247nah

[@knobdoor]

Momo is so shy,funny and conservative but when she's on stage you'll see how much passionate she has in dancing,she dances like a monster that will eat anything in her path🔥

[@user-ib1is7ny7r]

Momo gives her heart and soul when performing, she deserves that number 1 spot

[@mikebluet]

Momo's movements are so sharp and powerful. She knows how to be graceful too. Dancing is like breathing to her

[@powbobs]

I agree with everything except the Conservative part. Momo has that Japanese rebelliousness to her.

[@knobdoor]

@@powbobs she's so conservative when she's facing other people except her fellow members. So I'm so happy when momo showing her true self with her members💕

[@powbobs]

@@knobdoor Shy and conservative are completely different things. Did you mean shy? Because although she has gotten better, she’s still definitely shy.

[@nothankyou2797]

Seulgi is honestly such an inspiration; she joined SM with a focus on singing, but she worked so hard and is now one of the best dancers in her industry. Her style and effort is so captivating, and she always seems to be enjoying every moment of it. I hope everyone can come to appreciate her skill and that she can go even further in her career

[@hehe-fl6vm]

Fr like she wasn't best but became one over the time

[@gabrielfarkas257]

The all-rounder of RV. Wendy's still my bias though but I appreciate seulgi just as much.

[@amsrroleplaylila7173]

@@hehe-fl6vm she was the best girl dancer in SM right out of the gate (at debut), what do you mean overtime? Like, pre-debut? Yeah she became the best pre-debut

[@eyebrowstj]

​@@gabrielfarkas257This comment always confuses me when Wendy is a better rapper and vocalist byfar. There is only one category Seulgi beats Wendy in and that is dancing. Make it make sense. Seulgi is my bias wrecker and I love her to death but when I bring up Wendy and her in the same way as others, I am considered a hater and no one tells others to not compare the two 😂😂😂😂

[@chuuu4610]

The reverse happens too. Luna joined for dance and became one of the greatest vocalists the company ever produced.

[@mariapiccioni5974]

Almost every idol has tried it, and I've seen countless people's covers, but to this day I feel like Momo is the only one that has been able to recreate perfectly the magic of Taemin's choreo for Move. I was so floored when I saw that cover that I had to look up who that member was, look at all her dancing videos, start simping for her, and I haven't looked back since

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

That cover made me a once from someone who actively disliked Twice since their debut. It changed my whole view in less, than 5 minutes.

[@yashrajp]

Me too...I became once just because of This Dancing Mochine

[@loveme3956]

There is one cover - Park Jiyeon

[@mariapiccioni5974]

@@loveme3956 That is an AMAZING cover you're right! However I would argue that, when comparing it to Taemin and Momo's, the isolations aren't as clear, and in some moves you can see that the limbs don't extend the full way. Nitpicky things, but for other choreos you always find some people that manage to perfectly replicate it, and for Move it just... never happened except for his own choreographer and Momo

[@michaeng3523]

i couldnt agree more

[@maxi161]

Finally!! I agree with Seulgi now that I pay attention to it but I still love her style the most. Didn't expect Chaeyoung to be high up,and Jihyo is so inspiring

[@acebase555]

I also wasn’t expecting Chaeyoung to be so high, but now that I’ve watched this, I think she’s actually a better dancer than I realized.

[@PoussinNoNeko]

Since they have separate dance videos, I did pay attention on how clean and technical Chaeyoung's movements could be. But seriously, I was not surprised Jihyo was so high. To me, she has always been the 2nd best dancer in Twice. It's really nice to compare them to other kpop dancers.

[@Spicyyy832]

I thought Chaeryoung would be top 2 hahaha

[@liad0x]

@@Spicyyy832 this is about chaeyoung not chaeryeong?

[@renny6674]

When it comes to Lisa's predebut dance I believe that since her spot in bp wasnt necessarily guaranteed it was important that she should stand out especially in what she was good at (dance) thus leading her to put more emphasis in her moves so she could stand out amongst the others, but now after debuting I think making the group look more unified or something along those lines became the next most important thing as there was no longer a specific need to 'stand out' as she is now apart of a group. (this is just my opinion, i could be completely wrong). Anyways great video! Enjoyed it very much and found it quite informative even though i'm not a dancer myself.

[@nonjabulomangoro1871]

I think she said a similar thing with Youth With You, that you can't *just* dance however you want because the group performance is important. I think a similar thing happens with Ateez, and San, he _can_ become a distraction /disrupt from the groups cohesive performance.

[@facts_in_fiction]

Agreed, that is my theory as well

[@user-ib1is7ny7r]

I wish she would go all out in her individual performances, even when she was teaching in youth with you by herself it still felt contained

[@chelsea8357]

agreed. especially as a foreign idol and yg's first non-korean idol, she really had to work significantly harder esp on her dance to stand out from her korean peers

[@lunarialoonatic]

Makes sense too considering she even admitted on the documentary she wasn’t a singer and didn’t feel very confident in her singing skills compared to others sometimes

[@bettydaniel7388]

i love the amount of thought & analysis that went into this & have learnt so much about different facets of dance thru this! would love to see a big 3/4 male version if u are able to do it in the future ^3^

[@facts_in_fiction]

Glad you enjoyed it! I'll probably do individual videos on boy groups because there are a lot more idols, nct alone has almost the same amount of members as this video lmao

[@unicornwhale3807]

@@facts_in_fiction Your video in NCT will be very interesting and I'm excited to watch! They have tons of skilled dancers, each with their own sense of style and dancing background.

[@ip43627]

@@facts_in_fiction i’d love to see an exo video if you ever get the time :))

[@crickets6114]

Thank you for this really, I’ve been extremely perplexed why all the sudden Irene has been labeled one of the worst dancers in the industry seemingly overnight where her positive attributes just suddenly disappeared. I agree that she’s lacking in certain areas and isn’t a standout dancer compared to others, but she definitely deserves more respect for what she has displayed so far

[@facts_in_fiction]

I agree, it's really confusing how sometimes the kpop fandom just declares certain idols to be bad lol

[@peonylarkspur645]

i'm guessing it's a combination of the overall perception of her as a performer/idol being cold and somewhat standoffish compared to the others and the staff mistreatment scandal causing people to bash/downplay her skills, her being a visual and particularly famous for her looks also probably plays a role

[@cocomelon8117]

@@facts_in_fiction Sam honestly they just use the terms "based on open style x is that tier dancer" and then they call their opinions facts

[@user-ko4ue8vo1w]

I just came from that channel and I’m so happy to have found this one instead. They keep calling their rude comments as ‘facts’ 😩

[@cocomelon8117]

@@user-ko4ue8vo1w true btw which channel are you talking about

[@LeynaCool]

Lisa part makes me tear up a little bit. She's so amazing, I hope later in the future she can venture out and experience more things that she likes and grow more without any restriction. Because I remember she said she enjoys her trainee life and monthly evaluation. Rather than performing to the same dance and song routines, I hope she tries more stuff that she wants to try. and hoping her love in performing never subside within her. cuz she deserves all of the glory.

[@howdoesgoogleknow5303]

The fact that you actually spent time paying attention to every details concerning the dancing of each girls and explained everything cleary is amazing

[@mutiararh4351]

Wendy is monster, she injured so bad and need rest for almost 2 years. Some people say she not gonna able to dance again, but as a reveluv I really proud of her, she's really does improve alot

[@eyebrowstj]

I agree.

[@jazmine7798]

I definitely agree with your commentary on Lisa. I've always had a love/hate relationship with her because she was so technically good but so boring to me. For the longest time I couldn't realize why I didn't like her until one day it hit me: she never really "got into" her dances. She was always perfect with angles and facial expressions but seldom did she captivate me like Mark or taeyong from NCT. It's because she is limited by the group's image. I would LOVE to see her perform one of BP's choreo FULL out and just the way that SHE wants to. Also, it must suck to love dancing so much but be unable to go full out. If that was me, I would be so sad on stage.

[@chelsea8357]

lisa is definitely holding back for blackpink. i wish she were given opportunities to showcase her dance skills to the max because we all know she can do it!

[@anhpham6506]

@@chelsea8357 Didn't she have her solo?

[@chelsea8357]

@@anhpham6506 i still found that the choreos for her solo were not as advanced as they could have been to showcase her talent. she is being held back by blackpink and yg

[@bijuanthony6920]

wow u think her dancing is boring!!

[@mariaat1]

Other bp members are average dancers. Their is a huge difference between them lisa didn't want fans to degrade bp members because of her. Her predebut performance prove she is a skilled dancer and consider the group. I really wish her solo comeback would have a choreo to her abilities

[@ulamme]

the way that you mentioned lia’s physical body feature of straight shoulders at 3:56 intriguiged me, and i actually agree. it’s made me think about another particular female idol who i noticed has a feature which really affects her dance quality. from what i can tell choi yujin of clc, now kep1er, has extremely collapsed arches. her leg placements are always affected by this, and she often executes moves incorrectly with her knees together. i was wondering if anyone else has noticed it - i’d be really interested it you did a video on idols whose body posture and placement is their main issue when dancing.

[@caro6861]

What you said about Karina having to step up to become the main dancer of the group it’s actually true, the main dancer of aespa was supposed to be another trainee called Hina but she didn’t make it to the group 😢 with aespa it’s obvious that some of the members were “rushed” to improve and become the current position they have in the group (giselle&karina) because of the constant change of line up for Aespa before debut

[@brbrrher]

i 100% agree with putting momo at number 1. while she does get a lot of recognition and praise for her dancing abilities, a lot of k-pop fans still underestimate her dancing abilities. she's definitely not an average dancer and she continues to prove that every time she goes on stage. this is simply my opinion, but she's the best dancer of the 3rd gen (and the 4th gen so far), and she's amongst some of the best dancers in k-pop. i could go on for paragraphs about how almost every aspect of her dancing is impressively close to perfect, but that would be extreme so i'll just say that her skill, talent, and technique is mind-blowing. she obviously puts a lot of effort into her dancing, but still manages to make it look so easy. her execution of almost every move is so amazing that it's hard to believe that she wasn't born with these skills. again, this is all just my opinion. i understand if anyone disagrees, because seulgi and lisa are both very talented, hardworking, and skillful dancers; it's not just momo who has talent. none of them are above each other, the effort all of them put into their dancing is incredibly impressive and they deserve all the recognition and praise they get. in conclusion, seulgi, momo, and lisa are 3 very talented women who have put an incredible amount of effort into their dancing. all 3 of them have inspired me to get back into dancing, i look up to them a lot and they never fail to amaze every time they dance.

[@alextvn1393]

I totally agree with you👍

[@silvermist239]

I really hope can see a collaboration from these three

[@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe]

Your so right I mean she a better dancer than lisa but just cause Lisa is more known globally her talent are a bit over looked by people cause the say she a better dancer than momo

[@HeidiAndrea-mp8oe]

Your so right I mean she a better dancer than lisa but just cause Lisa is more known globally her talent are a bit over looked by people cause the say she a better dancer than momo

[@yahheh5498]

Well i wouldnt say shes the best dancer in the whole 3rd gen but shes the best 3rd gen female dancer. But yes she is very undervalued at times compared to how good she actually is.

[@anarecinos1590]

Irene's attention to detail with hand movements is something that has always caught my eye. I'm glad to see it mentioned here! She definitely makes the hand movements seem easy lol

[@moi4791]

The sad thing about Yeri is that she lost a lot of self-esteem and joy (when it comes to performing) when she was being bullied in her early days of joining Red Velvet. I think that has unfortunately continued to hold her back. I really enjoy seeing her perform though nowadays, she has a very unique youthful energy.

[@justs4814]

As someone who not train as a dancer I'm very proud of how great Kang seulgi right now. she's so versatile and i believe she's still growing up as a dancer. She still honing her skill. And i can't wait for more surprise from her. One of my wish that SM can let her shine with her dancing.

[@cloudberry0164]

I enjoyed this video so much! Thank you for taking the time and the effort to make this, i'm sure it wasn't easy :) It's really refreshing to see a very detailed dance analysis/ranking for female idols that isn't based in open style. The new trend of kpop dance youtube to rank gg members by open style never made much sense to me, although I find it interesting I felt like it ignored so many aspects of what kpop idol dancing is. But what do I know I'm not a professional dancer lol. I loved your explanation of Karina's dancing, personally I find her to be such an interesting dancer and felt like she dances in such a dimensional way and even though I could see that she lacked in some aspects I really disliked the whole "Karina is a terrible dancer" narrative that spread so quickly. Your comments about her cover of Naughty vs Ryujin's was fascinating! Also as someone who's a fan of Irene and greatly enjoys her dancing it was nice to not have to watch someone rip her to shreds lol, I love how detailed and elegant she is, she really makes dances look so "pretty" which I think suits Red Velvet's music so well. For future videos I was wondering if you could include something like a red asterisk to signal who youre talking about when you show dance videos? For example with some of the pre-debut dance videos for Blackpink I had a hard time telling who's who since the lighting isn't the best. Also some people might not be familiar with every group well enough to know all the members? Nonetheless thank you again for such a detailed and interesting video :) I'm so excited to see what other videos you'll make!!

[@cloudberry0164]

Also that detail that Yeri likes to add spins to choreo is so interesting! I never noticed. Although I have noticed Karina likes to add little jumps to choreo, for example in illusion she adds in the part of the chorus that says "hook up". I also wanted to ask which of the idols mentioned above do you personally enjoy watching the most? Are there any sort of traits/styles you favor? :)

[@facts_in_fiction]

@@cloudberry0164 Thank you! I'll definitely try to make more obvious who I'm talking about in the future. Personally my favourite dancer on the list is Lisa, I prefer more laid back dancing and I usually like her stylistic/musical choices

[@starproms72]

this was fantastic!! as someone who knows next to nothing about dance, the detail you went into & the clips provided as reference made this video feel ten minutes long instead of fifty. honestly can’t imagine how long it took to make 😅

[@huriyatulafifah7753]

i agree with you. i check the duration before play the clip but it doesnt feel like 50 min at all. every explanation is make sense and easy to understand. sometimes i had to pause to see the details but it doesnt make the video seems longer too. such an amazing effort you put into!

[@11omit]

great video to watch! i admittedly care more for the information you give on dancing moreso than the ranking of these idols (i actually don’t listen to kpop much at all outside of looking for dance related stuff because there are a lot of resources), but i couldn’t help but be really impressed with the work you must have put in to make something like this-finding the videos, studying all of the people and their styles, making it into something as comprehensive as this, etc… amazing work! the technical stuff you go into really is so helpful to review because you go into stuff i never thought of either when it comes to movements in dance/techniques etc and gives me new vocabulary to look into the things i want to study when it comes to dancing as a whole. thank you so much for this amazing video!!

[@facts_in_fiction]

Thank you! The ranking aspect is definitely just for fun and I also care much more about the dancing haha. As a casual fan of all of the groups I was luckily already familiar with everyone, so it was less time intensive than I initially thought

[@ClubPuguin]

As someone who does quite a bit...same it's interesting and the ranking doesn't matter too much

[@Dasiah_Gaming]

Yoooo why is yeri SPINNING 😂😂😂😂 she like I got this one move that’s gonna killem

[@natalie9796]

Yeri is such a mood honestly 😂😂😂 If I could spin like her I would also do this every frickinh moment😂😂

[@skyward7903]

Needed this analysis on Lisa haha. I always thought she was one of the top dancers but so many disagreed. Well, BP's choreos and lack of much dance vids don't help either, and as you said, she has had to tone down her style a lot to fit the gg dancer, and BP's flow.

[@VideosForYou90]

*Yuna* at 8 + the "she is on the level as some main dancers in the industry" made me really happy, she deserves more appreciation for her dancing in my opinion. Fans often leave her out of Itzy's dance line while she has a lead dancer position. And she started from zero, she once said that she couldn't even clap to the beat before she started training. And thank you for ranking *Jennie* correctly and not calling her a bad dancer like most kpop stans just because she lacks consistency and energy somtimes. She truly has some potential but sadly has to fight with a weak body. Great and fair video overall! :)

[@twaeyeon68]

I agree especially on the nayeon analysis, she doesnt have any major weakness. and she also had moment where she potentially can do outside of idol dance

[@twaeyeon68]

And also nayeon being fluid while not completely loose ( overfluid ) is alr in my mind for a long time and you explained it. Accurate

[@judy1519]

While I agree on the top 3, I personally prefer Seulgi's style the most it seems very unique to me and makes me enjoy every single performance. I also think Lisa has found that special style and while I do agree with everything said about Momo and she is absolutely impressive, I wish I could see more performances like when she did Move by Taemin, I was so impressed but yes great top 3 out there, i love them all three!

[@amourpxjs3128]

I would just like to say, this was a wonderful explanation backed by dancer logic. thank you so much for doing this. I would also like to mention as just an extra piece of information, specifically for Joy, sometimes it is harder for a taller dancer to control their limbs and hit certain positions because of their limb length. I experience this myself because I am 5'7 and sometimes have the same problem. Overall thank you for making such a well made video and explaining it so well! New subscriber here!

[@witchology]

ive always been so intensely fascinating by ryujin's technique and seeing it broken down like this made me gain a whole new appreciation. love the videos thank you for sharing!!

[@kittycatsy]

I knew it Chaeryeong's hips don't lie! I never get it when people tell that she didn't dance that well compared to the other Ryu and Yeji. But each have their strength and particularly I like Chae's feminine approach. Ps. I want to see Chae and Sana duet in a dance, it will be ultra sexy imo lol

[@ThyLoverly]

this was such an insightful video. Thanks!

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

I love this video. It taught me so much, for example about grooving! I feel like I can improve myself thanks to you.

[@kamalawongratch]

Everytime i watch Momo's fancams in Twice's comeback stages her dance is really sharp like thunder, but in the dance videos she posted on ig she's so smooth and groovy. Her duality is 🔥

[@JayJay-nv2fs]

I love how the video's so, analytical and specific with its observations.

[@aesenario]

This is one of best and right ranking i have seen in long time thanks

[@dodo_honey]

loved your detailed analysis i found it very interesting! some rankings were indeed suprising but i loved that you explained them all

[@bellasmind]

this is such a great analysis! i love ur attention to certain details (things a lot of other analyzers tend to overlook)!!!

[@pickledjellyy]

loved this analysis! i also love how you pointed out how lia's sync with itzy is pretty good but her angles and body placement is what looks awkward! also finally someone who gives ryuijin credit for her insane control and not calling it "stiffness"!

[@pasteldreams_]

thank you for this video. aside from learning more about specific idols and the techniques they struggle/excel in, i can also use this to help myself become a better dancer.

[@SoraiaLMotta]

😊 so informative. Thanks.

[@jackic23]

Thanks for quantifying Nayeon's dance skills. I could never claim that she was a great dancer per say but something just really felt right about it. Now I know.

[@natalie9796]

What a thorough and considerable analysis you made! Thank you very much for the video it was such a pleasure to watch! I’m just happy that I found you smh and now I am gonna watch all of your videos ahahaha You’re so cool and I love how you prove your point with ✨arguments✨ that really are ones and not just thoughts like “she danced better because I like her more 🤡” I think my favourite kpop gg dancer is Rujin (I never get tired of watching her fancams!) and I was so happy seeing her so high in your ranking cause honestly people tend to put her something in the middle for her lacking groove, so at the beginning of this video I was like “k, my girl very unlikely makes it” 😅 and I was so surprised! Agree with you that popping/animation is very her thing and hope we see more of these in the future! I also love Jihyo’s dancing (very eye-catching and always fun to watch), she’s such an inspiration! Just admire her and what she’s been through ❤️‍🩹 The girls at the top 3 are just monsters of k-pop dancing and I couldn’t say more 😂

[@itzyisuntouchable]

people overlook ryujin cause jyp didn’t give her the main dancer position so im glad that non biased dancers overlook that arbitrary position & appreciate her worth. a looot of people notice her/prefer her dance when watching itzy performances. she’s in charge for most dance breaks & deservingly so! she really knows how to deliver them. but kpop stans limit themselves to reading “main dancer” position on kprofiles & tend to not rank her in dance rankings. which brings me to my next point - it’s interesting that “main dancer” title was shown as arbitrary like a lot of us think - in the way you explained in details why mina, twice main dancer is ranked so low - under twice members with no dance positions even. it’s always surprising to me why jihyo wasn’t given a dance position. also this video has also made me a fan of lisa & momo’s dance styles so thank you for that!

[@khadijak5464]

found myself learning and agreeing with a lot of your observations, finally found the words to describe what I’ve noticed as a layperson who doesn’t know any of the dance terminology and technicalities

[@s0nyuhshigay]

This is an awesome video, and super informative! I love all these idols, and I think the way you described all of them was very respectful :)

[@theophilus1981]

This was a great very insightful video. It was good to get the dancers perspective. Watching the top 10 in your list dance, well all of them from 28 actually, you know there's something special there, but for it to be explained in such detail just makes me appreciate them more as artists. Thank you

[@user-my4zo4oh5t]

You’re one of the best creators I’ve found on KZbin ❤❤❤thank you so so much for this professional analysis 🤟

[@gratatata291]

NingNing improvement yay!! I forgot how flexible YEJI is ❤️

[@leyna-rc5mr]

You're doing god's work, thank you so muchhh

[@kmlpthat6417]

I saw aespa live a few weeks ago and have to say Giselle's dancing really has improved so you were right about her ability to improve!

[@nonjabulomangoro1871]

I think the lack of strength is a persistent problem and frustrating thing about the SM girls. It seems with each debut, more strength/control/power is required but that isn't prioritised. If all of them just had a bit more muscle there'd be much improvement across the board.

[@ulamme]

yeah, i agree. i do think that the lack of muscle is intentional though, because female idols are scared of looking ‘bulky’ on camera for fear of cyberbullying.

[@facts_in_fiction]

I forgot her name but there was this former trainee who was at sm during the time snsd were formed and she said that she wanted to lose weight by exercising but sm management discouraged her (and told her she should only diet instead).. I hope things have changed since then but who knows

[@pretorosaduasvezes8739]

this is exactly what I was looking for thank you!

[@geonah05]

I LOVE THAT 28:05 I have zero experience in dancing so I am learning so much and I've always envied dancers and tended to bias the "dancer" of each group because they moved in ways I never could, especially as someone with chronic pain. I love your videos so much!

[@selmm2023]

I came here for the ranking, but wow... I'm shocked at how much I've learned. I used to always want to dance, but I couldn't afford it. Ever since then, I've kind of lived vicariously through kpop, watching choreos and fancams. I've heard a lot of different terms; lines, flow, groove, dynamics etc. And although I can kind of understand what those terms mean, seeing them here was probably the most effective and most insightful way I've actually been able to visualize what those terms actually look like. Especially the one example about Seulgi and the comparison to Yoonyoung. Great video!

[@clairelong3886]

I’m on the exact same boat !

[@Krishnaforever12]

Wow ur analysis is so good! And I love the fact that u took account of injuries of the respective idols like Jennie, Wendy, etc.

[@bae-oo8nf]

Omg yeri adding turns is cute hehe

[@ophelialam9206]

honestly this was so fun to watch

[@zahrazarqaa5210]

Such a great video! ❤❤ I appreciate the time and work its mustve taken to put it all together! And perhaps there could be another video analysing main dancers from non-Big3 groups? StayC, Everglow, Dreamcatcher, IVE etc.?

[@haliiteee7048]

Amazing video! Please make moree❤

[@genius_on_the_way8702]

Nah, this is better than Open Style. You can explain their strength & weakness without tier that people made 💕💕, good analysis btw

[@sophieh1862]

The 50 minutes went by so fast lol this is an amazing video well done!!

[@catherinecalmerin1825]

Damn this video is so educational and the way op explains it is (semi) easy to understand 😭❤

[@katokafu]

I’m so glad I found your channel. Momo, Lisa and Seulgi are goddesses

[@mewv3]

This was super interesting, i didnt expect to watch the whole thing thru! Would love an updated version (maybe incl more groups? If you ever have time 😊)

[@chelsea8357]

it seems that for female idols, they prefer sacrificing strength/having a good core to being thin and lean (and in east asia, being thin is a sign of health without much regard for muscle mass). of course this is not their fault, its an industry requirement and ideal but i think if physique was less of an importance in the kpop industry, many of these idol dancers' weaknesses could be lessened or even eliminated. loved ur analysis by the way!

[@ritsukaa6580]

Just watched your video! Loved it. Thank you for the precise analysis. Need more videos like this? Also could you please do a video on pre-debut videos of Momo and Lisa? It would be so nice to do an analysis on it too. Not a comparison or anything but an analysis.

[@princess_lookbook]

I can see the great effort put into this video. Loved it!!🎉

[@lavaanaworld540]

Momo is THAT dancer. Itzy and Twice are totally dance groups especially Itzy

[@xinkaizhou6048]

these analyses are so well-written (and not to mention informative for a non-dancer) i'm shooketh

[@rooo358]

Wow. I just learned so much about dance, thank you so much for taking the time and effort to make this video, it was super informative and really enjoyable to watch!

[@senpaijecho1933]

I'm glad that this video puts into words my feelings about aespa. Individually they don't seem terrible dancers, but unfortunately their weaknesses are the ones that shine through in their performances and that's what makes them look messy and inconsistent. I really hope SM does smth about it to help them develop their skills bc they do seem to have a lot of potential.

[@facts_in_fiction]

Omg I remember ur channel 😭

[@regularhuhh5216]

aespa blew everybody’s mind with black mamba dance practice, but it just went downhill. it seems like SM does not really have a dance instructor for the girls who can pinpoint their weaknesses and give feedbacks.

[@migu8328]

​@@regularhuhh5216idk if its a rumour or what but SM debuts are like practiced for like a year or longer than anything so that could be it

[@TPNsBiggestFan]

i am really into lists+ranking things and dance so this video is just 💖 for me

[@alextvn1393]

I really like this type of videos, i hope i get to see more 😁

[@marielmartino]

thank you so much for this!!! I'm sure it took a lot of time to put this together. thank you for your efforts. as a non-dancer, I learned so much!!! it was analytical and educational and most of all, FUN! *whispers* idk why I'm sad to see Mina rank so low huhu but it's that waddle - her feet always pointed out - oh habits die hard

[@juantabernilla]

Finally, someone who recognises Chaeyoung's dancing skills. I see rankings everywhere where people put her last or at the bottom of rankings in terms of dance

[@shinigamis_like_apples4797]

The itzy girlies are all incredible and I agree about not ranking them against each other since they all have very different styles and place importance on different things. For Yeji its in power and dynamics, for ryujin its her popping and control, for chaeryeong its balance and fluidity. I do disagree on Lia being second last. I think she is definitely higher than Joy, if for nothing else than for being able to perform itzys choreos to that standard.

[@michaelCuevas27]

Amazing channel. Subbed

[@atlasschmatlas6426]

I really love the detail that you put into this, rather than just giving a straight ranking

[@dtiateup]

in my opinion giselle shud be a bit higher (maybe 1-2 places up) I think shes actually pretty stable, the only problem is her stage oprecscence.

[@IreneEnjoyer]

Great ranking! I'm happy you noticed Irene's attention to detail when it comes to dance movement, I would also like to add that her neck isolations are crazy. I hope that Red Velvet will still continue to improve especially Yeri I feel she can dance very naturally when she's confident :)

[@de341f6]

Finally someone who ranks Jennie and Mina in an appropriately low position.

[@harold6892]

fr im tired of people automatically ranking them high because of their background/previous dancing skills

[@de341f6]

@@harold6892 Mina always did ballet as a hobby. It didn't translate into good technique, and even the few times we've seen her dance ballet, it's poor form.

[@shiningyoonie]

Yeah i think their positions here are good. Some analyzers put Mina way too low imo. I totally agrees that she has a lot of problems but she has shown her strengths too, a lot of people seem to ignore them.

[@AlLibadz]

​@@de341f6 i think the exact same

[@iamashape7505]

would be interested in seeing a ranking vid for on-big 3 ggs too :D

[@gabrielam4122]

I'm hypermobile so I feel like I can say something about dayun,force is possible you just need to train by strengthening the muscles but for that you need to lift weights. Not being able to control my body was one of the worst symptom of my hypermobility but it's getting better whith weight training. Even if you have something working against you with time and hard work it's always possible to be better.

[@Lia-vi3oc]

At some points you completley blew my mind. I always used to see most of the idols dances as perfect but your point are sooo vaild! Loved your vid!

[@americxno]

Jihyo and Wendy deserve this all. I haven’t seen many people talk about how good Wendy had become recently, you could easily mistake her for center these days. She’s clearly always having fun and has improved so much from the injury. Both Wendy and Jihyo are insane to have as role models, and they’re both mine. Jihyo has worked SO hard for this and jyp still keeps her back during dance breaks and doesn’t let her showcase her dance as much (like now, during solo world tour stages). Crown was such a gift. Her solo debut better be exactly what we expect from her and what she expects herself, insane choreo and insane vocals (and even rap, she’s pretty nice at it).

[@eyebrowstj]

I agree. They are my favorites to watch perform and not even have a dance position. Often times they hit their movements better than dance line.

[@AlLibadz]

I think the exact same

[@buyantogtohmunkhsukh9109]

Thank u for this video. Can u do one for whole seventeen members, gonna be interesting

[@facts_in_fiction]

I'm planning on doing one in the future!

[@sheilamaghfira]

love this video so much! as a non dancer, a reveluv and yeri bias I do agree with all of your analysis!!

[@J03SAM]

fellow reveluv and yeri bias here! 🤝

[@user-wz7kq2iy5e]

Your breakdown of Karina’s dancing is perfect. I’m not a dancer and I was struggling to figure out why her dancing just felt “off” to me - this is why.

[@anna-mooncrutzen3427]

can you do an analyses of my dancing omg, you are so detailed im in love. No but seriously, the way you manage to put in words what i've been seeing is very impressive and it's so fun to watch these videos!

[@user-ib1is7ny7r]

when Ryujin learns groove, who’s gonna stop her??

[@Zinnie98]

I think this is an amazing analysis! The only thing I would add is that Joy also deals with the bending to match the other members height issue like Tzuyu. Also that Irene does have inconsistent isolation, but she is fairly consistent with her neck isolations. Even in the monster clip used to show her lack of definition, she’s better than most of the professionals behind her with her neck isolations.

[@anncynka]

As I'm not a professional dancer, I didn't know there were so many elements that influence the final dancing performance. It was such an informative video. Thank you ^^

[@Slayoon]

Please do a dance analysis on each of the NMIXX members (ot6 or ot7 it doesn’t really matter) I’m curious as to know who is best because there are a lot of disputes over whether Jiwoo, Kyujin, or Jinni is the best dancer and have the best technique. I know my bias Sullyoon will be ranked last but I want to know what is it that makes her rank last, what exactly is she good at in dance, where does she have the most potential, and how can she improve.

[@theepoopydoodoo]

Honestly, I would love to the see top 10 ranked OUTSIDE of idol dancing. Like freestyles, other styles incorporated as well.

[@hafizishakhafiz7624]

There seem to be less idols in kpop that good in freestyle.

[@asiangsus]

ryujin is cool omg that dance break was so good

[@Princessyoku]

I have a munch harder time analyzing good/bad female dancers vs. male dancers, just because of how the choreo differs. I usually quantify it by who is Mothering the most lmao

[@TPNsBiggestFan]

actually, im curious about what you think of billlies dancing??? ive seen people rank moon sua + siyoon above tsuki and sheon (who are the main dancers) and it intrigues me

[@MultiStan1516]

As a dancer watching idols like Yeri is so frustrating, I agree with the placement, I agree that she seem to commit to techniques then mid movements abandons them, like her groove is good and I know she can groove but she abandons it mid movement, and it’s like why miss yerim why? It’s like roller coaster that is going up to the highest point and you are all excited for the drop but then it just go backwards!!!