FAIR Perspectives Ep. 12 - Is There Hope for the Future? w/ Sarah Haider

[@rickrudd]

I love Sarah Haider.

[@snorgonofborkkad]

It hurts to hear the despair in Sarahs voice. I too have felt similar feelings. Like the humanitarian efforts I've dedicated myself to for the past 20 years were a misguided wast of time. It's not true though. That's what the Woke ideology is designed to make us feel. It's an illusion. People need to remember, the whole country didn't suddenly get amnesia six years ago. There's still a majority of us who think like Sarah and don't believe the ideological nonsense. I had the privilege of working directly with Sarah once. She couldn't have known it but I went out of my way for the opportunity to work with her. She's exceptional at her job and works like a savage. I support her and will continue supporting her.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes but the biggest problem is the silent majority are silent! They don’t even push back in comfortable family settings so it’s frustrating

[@JockoJonson17]

yeah really 😢

[@kimj5037]

Conversations like this certainly give me hope for the future! I appreciate all the work FAIR is doing. I find that a lot of people know something is off and they know they're being fed a narrative but when you try and explain how journalism has turned into activism and the elite Universities are pushing this, it's hard to keep their attention. It's just all too much for someone new coming into this. Not even to mention the WEF. But, with each conversation, it does get better. People just need time to process.

[@chrislejuez]

I've noticed within my friends and colleagues that moved from Christianity to atheism, there is a pretty clear distinction between those that left the religion due to moral disagreements with the church, and those who left because the religious claims couldn't be supported with evidence. I don't think it's a coincidence that many in the former camp eventually migrated to new age spiritual beliefs such as astrology and spiritual healing and appear to be overrepresented in the "woke" circles I navigate. It seems they always had a disposition toward religious thinking but were simply looking for any other dogma that better aligned with their morality. And thus it's not so surprising that they also tend to be the ones that view political disagreements as moral failings, rather than mere differences in viewpoint. Not so dissimilar to the evangelical Christians before them. I'd love to see a poll run on wokeness's correlation with astrology and therapy culture. I can't be the only one that notices that they tend to come as a package deal.

[@pjacobsen1000]

That's a great analysis! I've thought about the same, but I couldn't quite figure out what the difference between the two groups were.

[@JK-ts1bl]

This is an interesting observation. Ironically, I wonder if it resonates with the Christian talking point that everyone will have a god, but the question is what is the god?

[@vivianhull3317]

I was never raised in a traditional religion. I'm a spiritualist. I became interested and trained in astrology from my early teens. I found other astrologers on Facebook. Many were great to follow, but I did notice there were many young 'self taught' astrologers who knew just enough to be dangerous. I don't like doing predictions but prefer to read the natal chart, the road map of your life. I discovered most people don't want to learn about themselves and how they can have a better life. It's more they want something eg the love of their life, and when are they going to get it. It's very superficial and not at all spiritual. It's more 'me me me'.

[@stevecharles7967]

Sarah, keep chasing the light and what you know to be true. Believe in yourself.

[@xitlallicommentstoday2169]

My own painful experience in recent years helps me understand Sarah's perspective. I know I am burned out on the widespread b.....t. The thing is, if the world is worth saving, we have to find a way to work against this trance that has captured so many. The world needs us to be adults who respond in adult ways. Humanity has survived worse calamities before.

[@brianmeen2158]

39:00 Sarah nails it right there and this is the core problem I have with “wokeness”.. the hyper focus on race is going to lead to bigger problems and I already sense it happening

[@MattHunX]

Oh, I remember the storm that whole elevator/coffee-invite story caused, a few years back. I was still into science vs. religion debates, was on a forum full of rational skeptics and felt like I was in a minority with my views of that particular situation. And it wasn't even a nuanced position or anything. I just looked at it and thought, the only reason that woman got offended is because she's obviously not the type of woman who would be willing to hook up with a stranger she met in an elevator for some casual sex, no strings attached. Some other woman might have even taken the guy up on his supposedly suggestive offer and wouldn't have made a big deal about it. But, because she was not that type of gal, the whole thing blew up and turned into a big discussion about feminism and the behavior of men, because the woman was acting like all women had to be thinking like her, and indeed the majority of the women in the discussion were on board, and most guys, too. But, not all. And today, a lot of guys only take women's side to appear good, woke and as potential boyfriend-material, but put them in a room together, all guys and no women, and you'll have "locker room talk".

[@brianmeen2158]

Haider is great to listen to . I share her level of frustration mixed with a touch of despair I’m honestly still confused as to what exactly the “woke” ultimately want in terms of end game - I just know their game will not work

[@kevincurrie-knight3267]

I keep hearing folks say that our problem is lack of trust in media sources. I see very little of that around me. The problem I see is that all of us trust different sources where we used to all trust the same few sources. So, really, it seems to me that the problem is that we now have to deal with a TON more ideological diversity than we've ever had to deal up close with before.

[@JessicasQueens]

Media absolutely has failed us in every country for the last two years. And the reason we are so divided & no longer trust the same source is because mainstream media & Governments are slowly but very factually killing our rights one by one and it’s using the media to do exactly that… in every country. Since Most ppl are blissfully unaware and only 30% understand how sinister things can get when freedom of expression becomes punishable by law, we now get our news and info from more reliable and unbiased sources. Diversity is not new, but govt got the media to start normalizing some pretty dark woke ideologies, that over time, will not serve humanity, only govt.

[@brianmeen2158]

Yes, everyone has different ‘sources’ that they trust but if you were to ask a peer about that source they would laugh and say it is propaganda . I just saw a poll that said only 50% of people trust the fbi. This should be alarming to everyone . After 2020 my faith in institutions has been lost . If that year didn’t ‘red pill’ you then I don’t think anything will

[@kevincurrie-knight3267]

@@brianmeen2158, Okay, but when you say that you were 'red-pilled,' you must have trusted some sources to get you there. So, like I said, I think the problem is less that we don't trust any sources anymore than the idea thata we all trust different sources. And I know at least enough history to have not trusted the FBI for a decade now. That 50% of people trust them today means (a) the number should be lower, and (b) is as it should be.

[@kevincurrie-knight3267]

By the way, I think this is all part of what happens when we get a more transparent society. Transparency has a lot of great uses, and it allows us all to feel like injutices will more likely be exposed. But it also means that because of that very ability, we will inevitably lose trust in institutions when we become aware of what goes on (and can go on) within them. Transparency is a double edged sword.

[@snowps1]

Our public school here has an entire DEI dept. They have pages of this info on the school's website. The whole school is filled with this junk. After several years of private Catholic school we're going to try homeschooling this fall for the first time.

[@gurpchirp]

these babes are such babes. good lord.

[@nancymurphy1463]

I find a lot of solace in FAIR's videos, this one in particular. But it was pretty jolting to hear Sarah refer to an anti-NATO stance as "far-far left" and "total lunatics" with some kind of unspoken agreement among the speakers. Can someone explain to me what she means? Is being anti-NATO seen as an extremist position?

[@MA-go7ee]

Anyone who wants to know what happened with Atheism and Wokeness has to watch ThunderFoot's contemporary videos on it. It is absolutely engrossing time capsule of how the movement gradually fell apart

[@IshaqIbrahim3]

Do you have a link to the video or the tile of the video you are talking about?

[@supersecretprojectx5642]

I just added “douche-chills” to my vocabulary.

[@marz8852]

Like the talk. Fan of all 3 of the speakers. Just a minor observation: Sarah is American. Speaks native English. Is fully culturally American. So, I don't see a good reason why she labels herself as Pakistani-American. I've worked with, and have been friends with Pakistanis and Indians for around 30 years, and appearance-wise she doesn't even look very "Pakistani" (not that that really matters anyway), so no need to specify "Pakistani". Speaking from personal experience, sometimes it's fun having people trying to guess where u'r from! 😉😊

[@snorgonofborkkad]

She was born in Pakistan and moved to Texas when she was six. She was raised Shia Muslim. It's true she's mostly culturally American but the other factors are enough to qualify as Pakistani and American. She uses the label mostly to establish credibility as someone critical of Islam.

[@marz8852]

@@snorgonofborkkad I did think of that, and wanted to mention that in my initial comment, but I thought adding that would make me seem like I'm rambling on too long on something that wasn't that important. But while we're here, let me ramble! I'm Yugoslav-Australian, but just like her, I don't look too much like a typical Yugoslav. So, again, in my experience (and I'm much older than her), I've always found I have much more impact when people think I don't know about topics on former-Yugoslavia/Eastern Europe, but then I prove them wrong. Same goes for Japan/ese - I've lived in Japan over 20 years. It's about being on a higher plane than that of being on the level of individual countries, cultures, religions. To non-Pakistanis, you gain much more respect from coming across as "international" rather than "national". Also, by adding "Pakistani-", you allow yourself to be open to whatever biases non-Pakistanis have of Pakistanis. Basically, I understand why she uses that label, but she should embrace and be proud of the fact that she's larger than that. ...I guess this is me just being "fatherly"! 😄

[@hassanjamal4212]

lol among pakistanis she is already seen correctly as a shameless traitor and whure of the establishment . You guys can claim her all you want , she is a worthless untrustworthy snake as far as pakistanis are concerned /

[@adrianarchie]

only a fool has hope. No need for hope. Just stay real, no matter what.

[@uncleskipsprairiejustice9367]

Sarah is getting lost around min 39. DEI is not a "tax" that will result in a loss of competitiveness vs "other civilizations". That's silly. First of all, big organizations care about their public image ("brand") and wouldn't do any of this without market research showing a benefit. Second, there is no "other civilization". There is only international capital. Capital originates here and there, and has legal burdens and loyalties based on that, but it goes where it will expand. Historically, investors have not looked for "productivity, efficiency" etc, per Sarah. There are looking for quick ROI. How else do you explain a corporate raider, like Carl Icahn? How do explain the entry of equity investors into residential housing? They are in the market to flip homes, not to make the housing industry "productive" or "efficient". There is no capitalism like the system Sarah is describing.