FairLight - Demo Retox (C64 Demo)

[@pjcnet]

If I'd seen something like this as a young lad when the C64 was in it's prime my jaw would have dropped.

[@FairLight1337]

There has been progress in techniques and tools, even if the machine is the same.

[@psydooh]

Guys you are sick ;) Another legendary masterpiece! Good moods, music, gfx and fonts!

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@CBM64]

Great fast-paced demo that instantly makes me want to re-watch it!

[@FairLight1337]

You have our unrestricted permission :)

[@rasterzeit]

This music is dope. What a great demo. 👀

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks

[@AnthonyCassidy50]

Love every second of that - from those dramatic opening tones, to the final cymbal crash.

[@FairLight1337]

Humble thanks!

[@tech-corner]

True Masterpiece! Unbelievable. I had to doublecheck whether it runs on real C64 and it does! Greetings from Poland!

[@FairLight1337]

Of course it does :)

[@FairLight1337]

The video here is recorded from real hardware

[@MaRbEd31]

Version for Sidkick Pico 64? Please 😎

[@FairLight1337]

What is that?

[@toddybody]

holy shit, i'm 52 years old now and I'm like this stuff But wait a minute, the coders should all be around 50. Age is just a number. I'm proud of the fact that the 8-bit era somehow never dies Boaahhh...this SId This bassdrum, this basedrum kicks my ass THX to DANKO

[@FairLight1337]

Well the cider is younger. Trident and Fegolhuzz are our two youngest members, but most the rest of us are immensely old ;)

[@noobahoi]

>Age is just a number. As an almost 55 years old guy, I can tell you it's not. ;-) That's being said, intellectual thought work like programming does work great even in old age as long as you don't catch a neurological disease. So, good times are still in front of us.

[@toddybody]

Working in IT myself, I realize that at 52, I'm still in my prime. Thought processes work as well as ever. Sometimes I still feel “underchallenged”. My younger colleagues are not necessarily better. They have fundamentally different methods, but they don't yet lead to the goal any faster. However, my oldest colleague is 10 years older than me and you can tell that the thought processes are slowing down or some things are being forgotten. Getting old sucks

[@noobahoi]

@@toddybody Well, yes, you are partly right. You can keep your mental agility with the right healthy lifestyle. Your thought process will decrease eventually, but by how much is dependent on your lifestyle. I knew 90s years old who were sharp as hell. And I knew 50s years old who just gave up and didn't care. It's a matter of challenging yourself everday. Unfortunately, numerous older guys are just dependent on their knowledge and won't learn new stuff every day.

[@FairLight1337]

Getting gold sucks, but the alternative is worse... So Id say live with it, and try to enjoy it.

[@AnnatarTheMaia]

Danko is killing it again! Happy days!

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

Danko did it again! great tune!

[@FairLight1337]

Humble thank!

[@IllIllIIIllIll]

Sick

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@runestone1337]

Fantastic as always guys. Loved it! - rune

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@loxleymannen]

What in the holy demo release, another FLT release!

[@FairLight1337]

Quite different from the last few I'd say as well...

[@WittichWolf]

Incredibly great sound track🤩

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@OLIV3R_YT]

Great stuff again ❤

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@LarsHHoog]

A bit of Tom of Finland-ish at 1:19 Nice fonts, music and overall production.

[@JoachimLjunggren]

You are absolutely correct! That was my inspiration when making this image.

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks!

[@goldblatalex7516]

fuckin' awesome demo!! wow!! incredible team work!

[@FairLight1337]

On behalf of the team, humble thanks ...

[@waynecuff3140]

AMAZING!!

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@roelandbrink1345]

Awesomesauce

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@marcin2285]

OMG! 🎉🎉🎉

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@mk500]

EPIC!

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks

[@RetroGameSpacko]

Border area: Am I a joke to you?

[@FairLight1337]

Ha ha ha

[@PSL1969]

Great!

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@BackToNostalgia]

Wow! Thats impressive.

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks!

[@MD_il_microcanale]

This demo is wonderful, like the others! Maybe in a few months I'll upload it to the microchannel too if you agree!

[@FairLight1337]

What we release is to the public. I would say the general scene consensus on demos is that its CC-BY-NC. So feel free to do whatever, given proper credit and as long as you dont earn any money from it.

[@MD_il_microcanale]

@@FairLight1337 my channel is not monetized, so there are no problems. However, I prefer to upload a demo a few months after its publication, so that the authors can reap the benefits!

[@FairLight1337]

Sounds like a great plan! We have the issue that others make emulator recordings of our stuff which is faster than our own recordings of our own stuff on real hardware. This to the extent that our videos of our own stuff were seen as non original.

[@MD_il_microcanale]

@@FairLight1337 This thing saddens me, the recognition to the authors, in my opinion, is due by the enthusiasts. I also record from real hardware, a C64c with a 1541 II, sometimes I use the 1541Ultimate for certain creations, sometimes I use the original 256Kb REU 1764 from mother Commodore, always if the demo or the game in question requires these expansions. I point the camera at the screen and start the demo, more real hardware than this you can't get!

[@FairLight1337]

I managed to argue my case that these are recordings of computer programs we have made and released to the public. Nothing stops others from recording the same, but we only publish stuff where we did the original. The only thing that stopped was the monetisation. We have it off for demos (to not have them interrupted by commercials) but the verdict affected also the Fairlight TV episodes. We earn something like a EURO per episode, so its not like makes actual commercial harm, but it was still annoying.

[@ktnlepside1665]

Fairlight ❤

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@mall0rz]

danko ❤❤❤❤❤

[@FairLight1337]

Yes :)

[@seteney72]

I like Plastic Pop 🥰

[@FairLight1337]

Danko is the lord of plastic pop :)

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

:05 Is that sprites on the side and top/bottom borders at the same time? Impressive!

[@FairLight1337]

Not sure which part you mean but this demo include sprites all over the screen :)

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@FairLight1337 It's the part at the very beginning where the starfield goes from right to left on top of all borders (it seems). I know sprites can be on top of the borders with some trickery, but didn't know they could be on the side and bottom borders at the same time. In any case, well done!

[@FairLight1337]

Of course they can. :) Have a look at our 1337 demo and then especially the FLESCOS part. There you have sprites really covering all of the screen.

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

@@FairLight1337 Cool. I'll check it out. Thanks!

[@FairLight1337]

My pleasure...

[@MeineVideokasetten]

Yusssssss! 👍🏻👍🏻🤟🏻

[@FairLight1337]

Great, huh? :)

[@lucifugerofocale4698]

Absolute banger of a tune ❤ SID chip still reigns 👑

[@FairLight1337]

Indeed :)

[@CarstenMeyer]

Damn. What’s wrong with you guys? What do you eat for breakfast? I want exactly the same thing!

[@FairLight1337]

Ha ha ha :)

[@damaqe9887]

Is the soundtrack SID only? If yes, wow, if not, still wow. The song (and the demo) kick ass.

[@FairLight1337]

You mean if additional sound was added to the video? Nothing was added. Download and run it yourself to validate.

[@damaqe9887]

@@FairLight1337 No no, I was thinking if the instruments were samples or sid. I’m not that familiar what the C64 is soundwise but this was impressive.

[@FairLight1337]

There is nothing in the c64 that does sound, except the SID. So samples are also SID. I cant say if they are used here but my assumption is clearly not. This is plain sounds.

[@C64EVO]

How can Trident produce sooo much code so quickly? Is HE really an AI? Nice work!

[@FairLight1337]

I would say a combination of many things. General competence and a structure so he can build on his old code, so that he doesnt need to reinvent the wheel every time. Add to that genuine passion and setting off time to do it.

[@C64EVO]

@@FairLight1337 and clearly he has the work ethic of a machine. Irrespective of the motivations, we all benefit from the output. Love seeing everything that comes next. Big-ups to the team! 🙌

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks - much appreciated

[@jesperjohnsen5336]

Fuck yea 💪🥰

[@FairLight1337]

Thanks :)

[@jesperjohnsen5336]

I do feel though that trident might get a run for the money for c64 demo of the year, the arise demo just out is very good, i think…..great times to be c64 owner….well done guys❤🍺

[@FairLight1337]

Agree - it was also a really good one.

[@LiberPrimusz]

[@FairLight1337]

Not sure what that means but thanks I guess :)

[@dbug64]

Nice demo except for the buggy rasterbars, apparently very hard to get stable rasters even in 2024. ;-D

[@GerbenWijnja]

At first I also thought they were glitching, but then I noticed the glitches are in sync with the music. It's intentional. ;) 🎉

[@FairLight1337]

Im really sure its intentional ;)

[@soyayofu]

I don’t think Trident can do unstable rasters even if he tried… syncing to music is the new black, get used to it! 😀

[@FairLight1337]

Agree :)

[@jesperjohnsen5336]

what buggy rasters? they are in sync lol

[@Clemens-Ratte-Polle]

@1:19. Gay pride

[@FairLight1337]

Please describe what you mean here.

[@DerDanko]

I made this music and I approve of your message.

[@FairLight1337]

:)

[@Michael.Werker]

FLT: Can you check out the VIC-IIe of the C128? It has a lot more functions than the VIC-II of the C64. Unfortunately only one demo used it in 2001. The video is very old. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/baC8dZ2Be5V3ldk This demo also does not feature the true VIC-IIe interlace mode allowing 160x400 and 320x400 pixels. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3Wwh2Z-qL58iw

[@FairLight1337]

You mean using it from the c64 mode or produce a native c64 demo? An old trick is using the 2 MHz mode in the border and is the extra cycles for stuff...

[@Michael.Werker]

Yeah, the 2 MHz trick is rather often used. It is working in Eye of the Beholder, Sonic and it's even possible using it in GEOS. But no, the VIC-IIe has more tricks to figure out, border graphics without sprites, 11 new colors and more. Risen from Oblivion is from 2001 and it works from C64 mode. Every new function of the C128 can be used from C64 mode, including the VDC and the serial burst mode. But you have to provide own routines.

[@Michael.Werker]

If the C64 gets boring, I have since years a project here which is a specific expansion for the C128. This hardware would be especcially interesting for the demoscene. It's also cheap, less than 100 Euro. A modified version can be used in the C16 and would make it more useful than the plus/4.

[@Michael.Werker]

But I don't find a hardware developer. People in forums only want expensive FPGA remakes instead of adding new features to the original hardware. Instead of being expensive and exotic my project is designed to spread. Only the PCB has to be created, it's designed for self-soldering. The design is fool-proof. There's no FlashROM neccessary, the computer can't be bricked. It can work with the original C128 ROM and BASIC, but allows a new structured Kernal and BASIC without bankswitching.

[@FairLight1337]

Generally the value of the c64 is the common platform, that we can gather around. Even making stuff on the 128 is rare, and then creating a small hardware expansion that would have an even smaller base, thats of course possible but dont expect much software support for it. I dont hink I get what you want to achieve. What is the idea you want to build?

[@Ghost_Swe]

Any dl link? Cheers

[@FairLight1337]

Should be on CSDb. csdb.dk/release/?id=245170

[@Clemens-Ratte-Polle]

Load first and start it with %0:* ??

[@FairLight1337]

You mean it bugs if you do that, or what?

[@Clemens-Ratte-Polle]

@@FairLight1337 ​@FairLight1337 No, got no C64 any more and cant remember this trick. Is it real?

[@FairLight1337]

That command looks like something that will load and run the first program on disk if you have some sort of DOS wedge, either replacement Kernal or via a cartridge. Via a stock machine I dont hink it will give you anything usable.