Fake Meat vs. Real Meat: Comparing Nutrition | Dr. Matt Nagra | The Exam Room Podcast

[@adamgalas6762]

When my aunt died I fell into a deep depression. In the past when I've lost loved ones I would binge on Chick-fil-A for several months and gain 100 lb or more. This time I fell off the wagon with vegan food including lots of impossible burgers. I'm proud that I got back on the wagon without eating animal products. I am now doing a 40-day supervised water fast to get back on track. I will break the fast using doctor goldhammers protocol. Specifically leaf side smoothies. Transitioning to SOS free leaf side soups and bowls and lots of fruit.

[@bitfinesse]

Dude. WAY TO GO 👊🏼 Goldhamer is THE MAN 💯

[@adamgalas6762]

@@bitfinesse Thank you. Just started day 12 and feeling great. Blood sugar and blood ketones perfectly normal.

[@slowmopoke]

@@adamgalas6762 I put this tire on, rode a few miles downhill (1000 ft elevation), then as I was going on flat ground, it started unseating. I was trying to stop but once started, it kept unseating and my inter tube exploded; luckily I had a spare. I have been fixing bike tires for over 50 years. Maybe I made a mistake, but fundamentally as I reset this tire, I realize you have to be very very careful. It is stiffer than normal bike tires and not quite tight enough on the rim, so it very easily shifts into a poor seating position as you are blowing it up. I’m going to try to make it work since I have it, but right now, I’m a bit scared. Luckily this didn’t happen going 30 mph downhill. Check very carefully once you finished that it is evenly seated all the way around, on both sides

[@lindamaturan2134]

Yes Dr. Gold hammer

[@dougbaker2755]

I'm an Adventist who was born in 1950. And I grew up on Worthington and Loma Linda vege meats.

[@khanhminhnguyen7274]

Is Loma Linda non Christian friendly ?

[@dougbaker2755]

​@@khanhminhnguyen7274Yes, Loma Linda Medical Center is world-reknown and is welcoming to all people.

[@kimberleyugljesa]

Ah the good old days of making meat dishes into tasty and quick plant based versions! 😁 And then hearing stories of meat eaters argue in disbelief that the dish contains no meat.

[@SDADeafDownUnder]

From the 1960s on, there is Granose Foods in the UK, and Trufoods in South Africa. In Australia it is Sanitarium, but many of their really nice tinned products from the '60s, '70s and '80s have since disappeared. What is still available is Nutmeat which is gluten based (per serving: saturated fat 1.5g; sodium 428mg; protein 36.4g; fibre 2.8g) and Nutolene which is gluten and peanut based (per serving: saturated fate 2.9g; sodium 432mg; protein 19.5g; fibre 4.1g). Diced Nutmeat can be used with lost of vegetables in a nice vegetarian stew. At work we once decided to have a bring and share lunch. I took a "mince" curry and rice. The "mince" was Sanitarium Casserole Mince (no longer available). Someone at work said, "This meat is so tender." So someone else had to tell him it wasn't meat. It use to annoy me that people at work would turn their nose up at vegetarian food, then we would have a lunch meeting and work would provide lunch. They would specifically order vegetarian for me as the only vegetarian, then everyone else would get stuck into the vegetarian leaving me looking at a platter of non-vegetarian sandwiches! You can take the meat off, but you can still taste it. Someone once came up to me at work to tell me he had been vegetarian for a couple of months and was feeling much better for it. But then indicated he would probably go back to eating meat. If you feel better without it, why go back? My daughter once worked with someone who was very pro-meat, anti-vegetarian. She gave him a tin of Sanitarium Nutmeat. He loved it and couldn't get enough of it! These days I am having to make my own Seitan. Seitan, or "wheat meat", is made from Vital Gluten Flour. Seitan is the base for many commercially available vegetarian products, so I would be interested in research on the positive/negative impacts of seitan. But my question is why do we have to make meat dishes with a meat analogue. It raises an expectation that the vegetarian dish will taste just like the meat equivalent. Why does it have to do that? It can have it's own taste and still taste as good. For example a Seitan Stroganoff. Then there are also plenty of really nice vegetarian dishes with no meat equivalent.

[@dellisgibbs5823]

@@khanhminhnguyen7274 Seventh day Adventist follow vegetarian vegan diet and think referring to loma linda was plant based back in his day. ( very few options available. Im sure the store sold to all customers. Seventh day Adventists are warm open as far as Christianity goes. Worked for sanitariums foods in NZ and lovely company to work with as a non believer

[@extropiantranshuman]

whoa how excellent of a topic - can't wait to watch this episode! I love how PCRM is on the cusp of topics to help me out in my everyday life

[@barrydevonshire9749]

My favourite in the UK is VFC .I did not like beyond burgers. Occasionally eaten they are fine I think. But it is reassuring they are better than meat. But of course even more importantly no animals are killed.

[@NoirHammer]

I really like the new Beyond Meat burgers and sausages using avocado oil. However, they are not a daily staple. Just a treat now and then. Stick to whole foods.

[@dellisgibbs5823]

You don't need dairy

[@KellyRuttan-re7df]

I really enjoy Dr. Nagra’s articulate explanations of the science regarding health topics. I also appreciate the variety of guests on this show, keep up the great work 👍

[@PhysiciansCommittee]

We're glad you enjoyed the episode!

[@kimberleyugljesa]

Thank you for this video. This topic has been crossing my mind for a long while now especially when my non-vegan (especially meat eating) acquaintances criticize fake meats as unhealthy because of the additives. And then doubt crosses my mind wondering if it's worse than meat itself.

[@damon-burton]

Really insightful discussion on plant-based vs. real meat. Dr. Nagra breaks down the nutritional differences clearly. It's great to see more research on this topic. While plant-based options offer heart health benefits like lower saturated fat, it's important to consider sodium content and choose products with healthy ingredients. Variety is key for a balanced diet.

[@freddistenbrain8287]

I don't eat no stinkin' meat, fake or real. Just whole plant food, with no salt, oil or sugar, is all I need. And it tastes great!

[@slowmopoke]

Neal Barnard

[@miracoli16]

Working in a hospital i experience a lot of people with sodium deficit. They suffer from cognitiv confusion. So be careful!

[@freddistenbrain8287]

@@miracoli16 How do you know these people were sodium deficient and how did they get that way? The human need for sodium is actually very low, just a few hundred milligrams a day. The naturally occurring sodium in plants can easily provide that much, so there's no need to add salt to your food.

[@miracoli16]

@@freddistenbrain8287 I see their laboratory parameters after a blood sample. Unrecognized kidney- or heart failure or taking diuretics can lead to low sodium levels.

[@freddistenbrain8287]

@@miracoli16 Those things have nothing to do with low dietary sodium.

[@rambleon2011]

In the ‘60’s while going to DoD (Dept of Defense) K-12 schools overseas, we had these thin soy burgers for lunch when we bought our lunches in the school cafeterias. They actually tasted really good. Anyone else had those back then?

[@FOODORASMA]

This is a good topic ❤ I think none 😂😂

[@janebaily3758]

Is there a brand with the lowest sodium‽

[@FOODORASMA]

Science shows we are plant eaters so therefore we should not eat meat even if we do survive. We are not meat eaters ❤

[@Samuel_Giba]

What do you mean by “science shows we are plant eaters”? (besides the trivial fact that we eat plants therefore we are plant eaters)

[@HopyHop1]

How do you define "omnivore"? If you define it by behavior humans are omnivores. If you define it by a species that doesn't get plaque buildup in arteries when animals are eaten humans are not omnivores.

[@monicasong427]

@@peter5.056The definition of an omnivore is a species that can thrive in both plants and/or animals. In the U.S., heart disease is our #1 killer. American heart surgeon Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn reversed heart disease without any drugs and surgery. This was only possible by eliminating the consumption of animal products.

[@monicasong427]

@@Samuel_GibaPrimitive homosapien primates do not hone any physiological and anatomical adaptations to eat the bodies of other animals and their bodily secretions. For example, the human gut microbiome only feeds off of one thing: Fiber.

[@HopyHop1]

@@peter5.056 When did I type that humans have never eaten meat throughout their history? I simply stated that humans, unlike authentic omnivores, develop plaques in their arteries by consuming animal body parts.

[@lavondahawkins]

Still not a fan of fake meats

[@kentroskelley1389]

First time hearing Dr Nagra. Very knowledgable. Is Dr Nagra a MD or PhD?

[@anon29831]

ND.

[@rickpasley6961]

I remember the Gardenburger from the 80s. It was ok, but nothing like the modern substitutes!

[@bitfinesse]

It’s kind of like asking, “Which is healthier? Glass or nails?” Well … here’s the thing … lol.

[@sharinaross1865]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnnemo4146]

By "polyunsaturated fats" do you mean seed oils? Many people say that those are really bad, that they promote inflammation, but you seem to think that they are healthy.

[@polibm6510]

It can be the worst junk on the planet, but... ...it's not meat!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kathleenphillips7145]

That’s right no animals were killed to be eaten

[@polibm6510]

@@kathleenphillips7145 Then... ...enjoy your vegan junkfood.

[@homelifeone]

Real meat, end of

[@wmfinch]

Has anyone ever considered taking an ICP / MS maybe a gas chromatograph and do a flavor analysis of actual beef. This will probably determine that the leading flavors in the rotting flesh is actually that of cow semen. Someone needs to get going on that. I don't think too many rugged type guys are going to be one let people know they've got a hankering for semen flavors 😱

[@trill000]

EVERYTHING is political. Especially what you eat

[@SteelyTheVan]

Facts are true whether you believe them or not.

[@bluejean-1968]

Fake meat is disgusting and I'm vegan.

[@CtheForestthroughtheTrees]

Only because it replicates so well the texture, look, and flavor of dead animal flesh....sans high levels of atherosclerosis...., so that anyone with a conscience and desire for better nutrition can substitute an ethical product for dead animal flesh in their favorite traditional recipes...

[@kathleenphillips7145]

For the most part I do not like the texture of meat alternatives but have learned to like soybeans and mushrooms. Fake ground meat is good for making vegan gluten free tacos or lasagna. I also use Violite shredded non dairy cheese as well as onions and pico de gallo. Black bean taquitos are also good.

[@bigant5552]

RIP MAD DOC & LITTLE DEBBIE 🙏🏻

[@jeffsmith5442]

Calories protein nutrients WTF I was vegan for three years and couldn’t get enough protein lost a ton of muscle mass I’m having such a hard time getting it back, but let’s stick with the main things protein Quit splitting hairs on all the small stuff come on

[@Spock_Rogers]

You were probably not eating a balanced diet or you are not being truthful. Protein deficiency isn't really a problem unless you are not getting enough calories.

[@Spock_Rogers]

You are probably trolling for animal agriculture.

[@_josephbogdan_]

I have been on WFPB lifestyle for more than 7 years. No trouble with protein. ALL PLANTS have protein and all the essential amino acids. Add soy products and you have more than enough. You also need to weight train muscles don’t materialize from food alone.

[@dudleyhardial2273]

I have been WFPB for over six years and I am 65 years. No problem with getting protein. Beans, nuts, peas, lentils, whole grains, and Soy products. Eat enough of these and you will be well provided. I don't eat any of the ultra processed fake meat products due to the saturated fats and sodium and other additives. Stay whole as much as possible.

[@HarlemGreatest]

He isnt an MD and this video was useless garbage

[@sunnyshealthcoaching]

He is a board certified MD of Naturopathic Med. Your comment is a moot point because he is siting scientific studies and research.

[@jackhilton8005]

I don’t agree with your train of thought. Most MDs don’t know anything about nutrition! This guys perspective was very scientific. Plus, it’s called the practice of medicine. They are practicing on us.

[@polibm6510]

If you believe Nagra, you are totally lost...

[@Spock_Rogers]

What do you dispute? Why do you have a problem with him?

[@SteelyTheVan]

Why?

[@polibm6510]

@Spock_Rogers Because all is the opposite what he told.

[@Spock_Rogers]

@@polibm6510 What exactly? Meat, eggs, and dairy cause many preventable diseases including type 2 diabetes and many forms of cancer. Meat, eggs, and dairy also make the human body obese.

[@polibm6510]

​@@Spock_Rogers Because he's at first vegan and then, if ever, doctor...