Fake proof silver eagle purchased from China.

[@SilverHeist]

Number two failed the rotation test. 2:25

[@vincentvictory7204]

I think it fails based on looks alone

[@magickiddscoincollecting4273]

I agree e he missed that

[@anthonyh7286]

Also the letter U

[@Michael-Philip]

Why did he not mention this ??

[@mistercomple7241]

A little surprised you didn't mention the obv/rev orientation is wrong. The fake uses medal alignment and not coin alignment. Granted, some fakes will have the correct orientation so this is not a fool proof check (albeit an obvious one if wrong). Also, be careful using calipers in that fashion as you could easily get a false negative (or positive). You want the prongs of the calipers to be on the same plane as the coin and not perpendicular to it.

[@JWsCoinsandHobbies]

Shhhhhhhh, he didn't notice! hahahah

[@papagiorgio5894]

@@JWsCoinsandHobbies I noticed that right away and I was going to comment but I see someone did already. Speg, I'm surprised you missed that.

[@JWsCoinsandHobbies]

I don't truly believe he missed it. He's too good for that. I just think he's running a social experiment to see how many people will point it out.

[@papagiorgio5894]

@@JWsCoinsandHobbies Probably, but it's always fun to rib him about it. Nothing says lov'in like abuse from your own subscriber posse.

[@formulafish1536]

If it was Australian it would work, as our coins are flipped like that, rather than upside down obverse to reverse

[@offerosky]

It is a curious crappy alloy not found on the periodic table, only found in China...called Chinesium!

[@mlj1111]

"Just the tip" That's what she said.

[@NicholasKon9]

fastest way to test is to get a magnet and a ping test.

[@sarahnewell3827]

you dont ping proof coins :D

[@NicholasKon9]

@@sarahnewell3827 if it is not numismatics that is ok to ping.

[@jeffreybutts1916]

I think it’s #2! And why does China get away with this? Their dishonesty has gone too far

[@mikesloothaak679]

I have an aged mother, and she is constantly under threat by domestic scam artists of all sorts, the US phone companies know who they are, and sometimes even the local cops, but for some reason or other nothing is ever done. Corruption and rip-offs are a world-wide problem, but it isn't "China" that is being dishonest, just some criminals in China.

[@ngantnier]

@@mikesloothaak679 Sure, but it is China in that it is sanctioned by the Chinese government. Not the Chinese people, but their "communist" totalitarian regime. Tyrants shall fall, Sic semper tyrannis.

[@sparcx86channel42]

they say its replicas...

[@Cougelly1999]

I think it is either one or two, so that means it will be number three

[@cliffordrandell735]

We are being sold down the river to China by the Dems and the RINOs :(

[@silversax5697]

Thanks to you and Mark, we all are a little wiser

[@blitheringrando1410]

Great video, very educational, there's just one thing I noticed. When measuring with the calipers you should be aligning them with the coin longways, that way you know youre touching the furthest distance across. Of course you knew it was off before that anyway so it's of little importance.

[@cupidfox9997]

For me I was really lucky to find a silver dollar coin at work. And the customer used it at face value, and I asked my boss if I can trade it with my dollar and he said yes. And seeing your video it confirms that it's real, thank you!

[@jadenephrite]

You should have also demonstrated the ping ringing sound test as you did on your Fake Morgan Silver Dollar from a flea market video.

[@Spegtacular]

There's several times I could do but there's no need to do every single test in every single video. That would get a little repetitive wouldn't it? When one or two of these tests are such a "nail in the coffee", we can generally stop there. After all, this is not a "how many tests can you do to test silver" video.

[@MenGrowingTOWin]

People are fed up with China and their ways. Honestly.

[@Spegtacular]

Never in my entire life have I said “I wish I got some stuff from China”

[@dshiznit148]

@@Spegtacular you my friend never bought a cheap chinese dirtbike

[@justinakajc]

My dog won’t stop barking after that door bell 🤣

[@Spegtacular]

Sorry.. but I’m not really ;)

[@justinakajc]

@@Spegtacular dont worry I replayed it about 5 times to bother her 😛

[@dataexpunged2827]

You can get really good deals on eBay, but NEVER buy premium silver or gold products off there.

[@igibon8]

I think some reputable US companies selling gold and silver coins also have shops set up on EBay. Just need to go to buy those coins from reputable sellers.

[@allanrscott]

Love your videos! So informative. Thanks bud!

[@kienhwengtai8113]

So that's where all the Australian iron goes!

[@michaeljohnson7103]

I don't know if someone else said this cause I have not read all the comments. But on a real silver eagle the head and the tail are inverted just like every U.S coin. On the Chinese fake the the head and the tail are both facing the same direction

[@provocanyon8564]

I highly recommend the Sigma Metalytics precious metals verifier. I almost bought a 20g Gold bar from the Perth Mint in 'original' packaging but when I tried to verify it the Sigma determined that it was an undetermined metal plated with 24k gold. I did an internet search on these bars and found numerous high-quality Chinese fakes available. The seller claimed he had purchased it from APMEX and it was guaranteed by them. I did purchase a PAMP 1oz gold bar from this seller that passed the Sigma verification.

[@THEDRAGONBOOSTER8]

Also when you flipped over.

[@DP-yr8vb]

The centre one.... I got one from America to.. my friend bought it from Amazon :( such a bummer

[@guyazbell7437]

I only buy from JMBULLION or APMEX or ModernCoinMart

[@rickyhall7514]

😂 I thought it was #1, until you flipped over #2.

[@BrownStain_Silver]

This video has me laughing. Either i'm becoming a coin expert (unlikely) or that is a horrible fake silver eagle.

[@brandonburdette7547]

I have bought Fake Pamp Sussies 1/2 gold on eBay. Even online with actual pictures doesn’t mean that what you will actually receive.

[@PoliticalprisonUK]

Just imagine trying to be a genuine bullion seller in China . Or a Chinese American stacker. With these fakes coming out of China it has to be a business and trading destroyer. It would be great to hear from any stacker or dealer who's American of Chinese descent to hear of the grief they get because of these fakes.

[@unlockeduk]

i imagine the Chinese stack the Chinese silver as faking the yuan is the death penalty but in china most people invest in property there are whole citys of empty houses where people bought houses to keep their money safe

[@oahuhawaii2141]

The first coin is a reverse proof coin. It looks real. Its details match the third coin, but in reverse proof: field frosted, design elements mirror-like. The details on the second coin is off. Plus, he flipped the coin along the x-axis and the tails (reverse side) is upside down. That's a dead giveaway for a fake: US coins flip in the horizontal axis; US medals and foreign coins (such as UK) flip in the vertical axis. The details of the third coin matches the first, so it is authentic, like the first.

[@JWsCoinsandHobbies]

Your talents with a magnet are unmatched good sir. :)

[@aaronwildman3652]

When you pull the fake one out of the plastic holder and it smells like cooked rice you know it's a Chinese fake.

[@ferebeefamily]

Maybe drill a small hole through the fakes to permanently mark them yet saving them for our training? Good video. Thank you.

[@nadien1958]

there's a lot of advertisements on Facebook that sell these fakes for under $10 bucks a piece.very few will give any "contact" information. the day I checked silver was selling for just over $17 bucks an once. that alone told me they were fake.

[@newbiereview6291]

I didn’t see anyone mention the pre 2008 U in United on the reverse. The size was the first indicator but the u sealed the deal.

[@battleshipnewjerseysailor4738]

For me, it was easy to spot due to the way the Chrome plating was reflecting off the "rays"

[@mongosafariadventure]

I'm curious why Customs and Border Protection (formerly US Customs) allows this counterfeit US currency into the country. If it is imported as a decoration why would it appear so realistic? Complete with US currency markings. To me fraud is intended.

[@stephengerish6978]

Do you get the feds involved on fakes? Are there any government groups that handle these things?

[@mrthomaslaux1]

Great material!

[@darrenseabolt2910]

2, no doubt.

[@gunter1872000]

Thanks for the video. You linked the verifier. Could you recommend where at get the magnet? Google search didn't look promising. Again thanks great video.

[@Spegtacular]

I got it on EBay years ago

[@gunter1872000]

@@Spegtacular Thank you. Hard out here buying person to person.

[@gGc0705]

I say we start making tons of fake Chinese coins and see how they like it

[@alpha9526]

I bought a 1/4 oz American Eagle gold coin from a reputable local coin dealer. I melted it to make something else out of it and it was fake. It was a tungsten gold alloy. The weight and diameter were both right. I did some research and found a company in China that makes them to order. I would suggest most of their gold reserves are fake. They make a thick outer coating that fools the X-ray machines.

[@Spegtacular]

A sigma tests the inner part of the metal, so it wouldn't get past it. Here's the thing, every metal is different in its composition. It is physically impossible to have the right weight, diameter, and thickness of a coin if it's made out of a different metal. One of those three had to be off.

[@alpha9526]

SpegTacular the density difference between 24k gold and tungsten is .26%. If you make the weight exactly the same the dimension difference is .0017%. When you alloy the two you reduce those numbers even further. If I put two coins in front of you could you tell if one of them was .0017% different? Divide that by diameter and thickness. So the thickness would be .00085% off, could you spot that? That is comparing pure tungsten with pure gold, make it an alloy now divide that in two and you have a coin .000425% off. So yes you are right it is physically impossible to have it exactly right but it can be so close it is almost impossible to detect it.

[@SuperPenguin5495]

Just leaving my comment for #2 and the reason is the detail... something just feels right about it. Ill leave another comment if im wrong!

[@jackbower8846]

I didn't need any tools to see which one was fake in this case....

[@sanpedrosilver]

To me it’s the middle coin right off the bat. Let’s see if I’m right or not

[@robertimler8283]

You can see that number 2 is smaller

[@jguerrero7064]

Where Could I get a magnet like that? Thanks...

[@Spegtacular]

I got mine from Ebay

[@Alpha-rl1cd]

I really liked your precious metal tester. I checked at sigma metalytics and it goes for $600+. Can you recommend another precious metal tester that’s as easy to use and maybe more affordable? Thanks.

[@Spegtacular]

Honestly, I think that Sigma is the cheapest. Beyond that, you're talking about $10000 or so.

[@rogersowers9837]

My guess is number two because when you flipped them over....the reverse side of Number two was the only one not still in the correct position......you had to turn it around.

[@gmc9753]

You should get silver testing solution so we can see if it's even silver plated.

[@my3dviews]

The middle coin has both sides the same way, not flipped upside down like the real ones.

[@israeldiaz4431]

Thank you for your video, verry useful!

[@conradpons9238]

What type of verifier do you have there, and how much do they go for.

[@Spegtacular]

Check the link in the videos description for the details on the verifier.

[@samkom33]

i noticed the fake nr 2 right away becouse of the U in united states on the back side... it was dated 2019, but they stopd using those U in 2008. the later coins say 2009 - 2020 shall have almost U. like a point on the down side of the U.

[@mikeco7312]

This video makes me apprehensive in buying silver American Eagle!

[@douglasw9163]

I stopped collecting the proof silver eagle in 2006 so I'm not as familiar with them any more. That was alot of good points to check for fake coins, and thanks for putting them out there, good video. I don't know if I forgot this or never knew it but my question is on the two good coins. How come #1 is frosted in the back ground while #3 has a mirrored back ground? Thanks

[@Spegtacular]

A different type of proof coin.

[@bartholomewtheapostle9442]

How about we all pledge to buy more AMERICAN! 👍🏻 Tell coin guy hi!

[@michaelladd7123]

I wouldn't buy anything from China that minted in America that would be ridiculous

[@brockabaddy985]

The Chinese characters openly proclaim that it's a forgery! Anyway, interesting video. I've learnt more about the real thing. 😀

[@darkJohnSmith]

lol I think that magnet screwed with your microphone

[@growforit8736]

Don't matter where you by them it's a rip.

[@MrJackHackney]

Wish has them for sale.

[@diggersouth]

I'm late to the game, I'm choosing #3.

[@Qtrainer]

#2 looks suspicious...and where can I buy a #1?

[@Spegtacular]

Anywhere online still sells them.

[@russsherwood5978]

#2, not aligned right, letters were to thin, milky appearaence, all this before your test, thank you for the info, again that is why i wont use e bay, be strong, be safe, and be blessed

[@whatmattersmost6725]

#2 my guess....Let's see.

[@silverhedgehog9587]

Center one is fake? #2

[@METALMAN4Wii]

I had to pawn my laptop yesterday to pay my cellphone got a whole $30 for my Acer cloudbook 14. gotta pay $37.50 to get it back in 30 days they were taking temperatures with the a food temp gun before you could enter. but I got to look at their coins for 30 seconds while they were running my license didn't see any Morgan's tho.

[@petermashak3341]

You need to use those calipers correctly! Coming from a Journeyman Toolmaker.

[@michaelladd7123]

I only buy from real dealer I been dealing with for years forget Amazon or ebay and others!! Pisses me off!!!

[@jonnymoka]

Middle one is my guess

[@agelement4740]

The bird is upside down also

[@franciscohernandez6860]

Also de letter U is diferent each other .

[@micjones1116]

Guess im old school don't like to buy anything online can't feel it, look at it close try it on for size...my southern friends call it " buying a pig in a poke"

[@annahutchinson]

Middle one I think

[@0VisualKey0]

How do u know its from china?put in the coin "made in china"?

[@dukenukem7719]

I actually have about half dozen complete sets of 1oz mexican libs 82-19 ... I also have the sygma machine just like yours ... all have registered inside the brackets but 5 .. a 98 , 2 -99s , a 89 and a 90 ... these are registering right against the right bracket but outside ... I have gone over these coins with a fine tooth comb against ones I know pass... cannot find a thing wrong ... weight is right , size both diameter and thickness spot on ... ping is right , and earth mag test passes perfect ... I believe they are real but it's still frustrating..... thoughts????

[@Spegtacular]

Send them to me :)

[@dukenukem7719]

@@Spegtacular I do think they are real but if u would like to check them we could work something out ... I would however like to get them back 👍

[@isoreece2k695]

Great video

[@isoreece2k695]

How many silver coins do you have speg?

[@Spegtacular]

Oh I don’t know. How many do you have?

[@isoreece2k695]

Like 20 or 25

[@isoreece2k695]

I just started

[@MeekSpirit1]

#2 It's smaller and the reverse is the wrong way,.

[@hillbillystacker6936]

Ha ha ha. Shoulda never fliped um.#2 all the way.

[@Braxx-Vision]

#2 is a little smaller than thew others, the others ar the same size so.. that in itself makes me suspect #2

[@rickiewilson2018]

How right he is be careful everybody silver collecting is new to me and sure enough the site looked good I mean really good $1,200 of fake liberties and said 1 oz 999 pure silver lady liberties thank God I went through PayPal and I was able to get all my money back the magnet grab that thing like nothing I ever seen many people buy these things and they don't know about testing them I was very fortunate I will only buy now from certified bullion dealer I was very fortunate many people aren't

[@Godisknockingx]

You could use a number of fakes in a fake safe at home. Lol! Keep them with some fake Rolex watches. If you get burglarized the bandit's would have made out with a bunch of fakes.

[@kingmenace423]

#2 looks too small that's my 1st guess

[@MrThe1234guy]

Number 2 is one ugly coin. Easy to tell just by the dress thick lines. Number 1 is stunning!

[@MikeJohnson-ct8dm]

#3 look at the 'B' in Liberty

[@kentd2712]

But Speg it still has bling.

[@johntoth7598]

Two is the Fake ! Like someone said the U in Trust does not have a san serif on it no san serifs on letters

[@XtremeChiliPepper]

Middle one appears smaller, and I think the OBV is wrong way?!

[@ScottGenX]

Ill tell ya right now...LOL dork!

[@davidtilley2963]

I think 2 also

[@MrENT18]

100% #2 you can see it with the shitty mint marks.

[@nikitamotin8781]

Its really obvious by looks number 2 is fake by color

[@numismaticstacker]

I say 2, it looks weird

[@BulletProofBallzPDX]

My 1st purchase was from China, too good to be true price. It is magnetic, slightly. I bought 10, and then felt skeptical, 1921 Peace Dollars under 5 dollars each, 2nd flag, so I used a file onthe rmof the coin. You know what was next. I was copper? Then just being critical, I used a microscope the look over the coins, and every coin had defects that were identical. I was feeling like a moron. I again remembered too good to be true is a standard. Now I have 9 "art coins"and only think I can make a marked fake Peace dollar set of belt buckles out of them. Iwould send you 2, one not marked up, and the filed one for you to use in a future video if you wished.

[@chrisfantasm3542]

first hint : from China

[@meteoman7958]

Two points Speg, you didn't mention the medal orientation and when you used the calipers to measure the diameter, you should keep the calipers in the plane of the coin to catch the full width.

[@nephisilver3051]

I wouldn't buy anything from China that minted in America that would be ridiculous

[@oldschoolrr6077]

Completely agree with you. And the amount of fakes coming from Communist China are increasing. No collector, stacker or dealer should have anything to do with buying from there, for that matter.

[@jimritzheimer7465]

Lord Grime I agree, they need to pay for what they have done

[@4ninesfinesilver315]

When your face-to-face with the coins it’s fairly obvious but when you’re buying online it is extremely difficult until after you have received it by then it’s too late thanks for the video👍

[@darthsilversith667]

4nines Fine Often in situations like that.. they will take pictures of legit ones and then when people buy them, they mail the fakes.

[@dijidal]

Unless these fools used images of real Silver Eagles you could zoom in and see with a good eye or a real one to match it up with.

[@dijidal]

@@darthsilversith667 Never-go by the photo!

[@darthsilversith667]

mm ix I know.. I don’t buy online anyway. Not on sites like EBay anyway. If I have to resort to buying online, then I will buy from a large, reputable dealer.

[@moekayse683]

That's how scammers get you, you need silver bad, and you need it cheaper, never trust eBay, or pictures, trust the authorized dealers only who receive your coins directly from the mint.

[@rayk126]

My dad bought counterfeit Chinese silver twice on Ebay. He has learned is lesson not to buy Chinese silver again. I heard that there are companies in China licensed by the government to produce Counterfeit American Silver coins.

[@locostacks8243]

Ray K he should also learn not to buy from eBay

[@igibon8]

Fake coins are from all over the world, right now the majority of fake coins are from Ebay’s venues. So I think EBay should take part of the blame, and not buying silver or gold merchandise from China if I were you.

[@chipper6323]

I bought one of these from China and when I received it, it was the size of a half dollar. I appealed to E-Bay and they refunded my money. God bless E-Bay.

[@SilverRipples.]

Speg #2 is as Real as any of the Kardashians....

[@911VideoNews]

The color on #1 seems really off

[@idunnoalaska]

I think it’s an enhanced proof with added sparkle.

[@oahuhawaii2141]

That's a reverse proof coin. It looks real. The details on the second coin is off. Plus, he flipped the coin along the x-axis and the tails (reverse side) is upside down. That's a dead giveaway for a fake: US coins flip in the horizontal axis; US medals and foreign coins (such as UK) flip in the vertical axis. The details of the third coin matches the first, so it is authentic, like the first.

[@christofour217]

If you look at the width the fake one will have a wider width.