Faker Award Drama

[@Hylofear]

Just a note about the cast range thing: some abilities would cast at max range, some would walk to the location to cast. This change now (hopefully) makes all abilities consistent in cast, either with a max range cast or location cast.

[@KindredDoomBot]

I am glad it is an option to turn on and off. Walking to the location and casting is the reason why some champs seem like that cast instantly after flashing. Like Annie when you input Tibbers at a location then flashing before she walks into the cast range so there is less time to react.

[@400bas1]

I was thinking some people use the first method (as shown here) as they can buffer it for flash. So I wondered why it was good, but now I get why. The consistency is much better!

[@Tronkh01]

as annie u want to use r+flash. but you wanna cast e facing a certain way without your mouse being inside your range. which option will players have to choose?

[@Magieschnuller]

Actually the setting will not affect all abilities. Some abilities are just coded to be always cast at max range, when you click outside of the range. Miss fortunes E is an example where the setting doesn't change anything. Hextech Lab made a video about it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naDCc62KpdWXmNEsi=tr7KzaqfWO21eTUp

[@sticksbender4057]

Yeah, I’m not convinced with this being a consistent global option, this is definitely something where a different option makes sense for different spells.

[@seaweedbanana4663]

Its his 10th year anniversary Earned a gold medal Won worlds earning his 4th It used to be hard to do what he did But now its impossible the others are literally nobodies if compared to him

[@michiosamuru1463]

No one denies hi's the GOAT not even thorin and iwd but the award is about this year where he "only" won worlds unlike jdg who won both splits and msi so a player like ruler wining the award would make more sense. And there is many more esport players that probably deserve it more than them that i dont know about.

[@vddink]

PC Player of the year so the last 11 months not best PC player of Oktober/November

[@muchluck7981]

@@michiosamuru1463 Honestly I feel, the thing about JDG is that while they were close to getting the golden road, it's hard to tell who actually brought them to that point. they all feel amazing and that's what makes giving a Player of the year award to them hard. Team of the year? More likely. Faker however you can really feel the difference. especially when he benched himself due to a wrist injury and the team noticeably suffered without him. That kind of individual difference is what I think makes an Esports player of the year

[@theneighborskid.]

but like, who are the people disagreeing the award? none of them achieved anything close to faker in their life, and what does his award has anything to do with them?? they dont deserve to have an opinion on this. do any of the actual pros competing and put up a fight with T1 disagree with the award? cuz they are the ones close to his level and probably have a more valid opinion on this. than some idk who.

[@Maronicam]

@@michiosamuru1463 Even the players don't respect splits/MSI to be something valuable. Like, people of 2019 G2 claimed that 2nd place on worlds in 2019 is bigger achievement than winning MSI. Faker left T1 for a few weeks and his team went from 6-0 into a 7-7, then he came back and carried them to winning worlds. Also, winning worlds is great, but there is no bigger achievement than winning worlds 10 years after your first won worlds. No player in no esports comes close to that. Someone will have the coolest mechanics and win worlds next year, but that someone will not be able to do what faker did. It changed people's perspective on age and burnout in esports. Was he the best mechanically player in the world? No. The most skilled in leading a team? Probably. But the best player is the one who changes the game, the entirety of esports.

[@FoulestNight]

Never forget Faker and T1 were only added at the last 24 hours on a Fan Voted award ceremony. The fact your favorites had days to get voted by their own fans and still got punked is hilarious

[@MikeyBoiYah]

T1 haters are never in short supply. A lot of people know he is shot caller, but don't realize how integral it is for their success. If he makes the decision, and it goes well faker will point out which team member made everything possible. When he calls, and everything falls apart he holds himself accountable for making a bad call. Everyone on T1 calls him big brother for a reason

[@Roguemxd]

the golden road comments are hilarious. It's not a golden road guys when you get curb stomped at the most important moment during that road. Just a bunch of LPL crybabies sad that T1 Demolished their region and won Worlds

[@ninjadead7446]

@@Roguemxd fr lol golden road omegalul jdg is dogshit at best

[@pda32301]

jdg wasn't even the closest to the golden road, them winning LPL dontmean shit when LPL is 1-11 vs T1 this worlds, while SKT 2015 had all LCK finals@@Roguemxd

[@Insomnia99530]

idiot its Korea people should use respectfull words to people older than them or they will be called rude dont use that thing in a discussion on a award

[@leontrotsky6530]

​Funnily enough G2 was the team that got closest to the golden road

[@AlFasGD]

Faker is a long-standing player that has always endorsed positivity, highly influenced the outcomes of all the games he has played in his only organisation, won 4 titles out of the 10, sustained an injury but still came back and won another title, adapting his excellency to the ever-evolving game that League is, and has been the center of attention for many moments, including the famous Zed clip. I wonder why

[@Gibbysaurio]

People talk about Faker like he is still the same player he was 8 years ago when he 1 v 1 ryu, he literally hasn't been that player for years. You can easily make the argument for two out of his four teammates being better than him, Keria and Zeus, Faker isn't the best player in T1, hell Faker isn't even the best midlaner in LCK. The injury angle is just fireworks too, yes it sounds good, but he basically didn't play most of the year due to an injury but he plays pretty well during a short period of time, Worlds, so he gets to be considered the best pc player of the year. Even though, again, he only played well at the end of the year. Weird how it works no?

[@SniperCanardo]

@@Gibbysaurio not weird at all since He won 4 worlds for sure he isnt one of the best player 🤡. There is really no need to argue. 4 out of 10 worlds won is insane. He didnt play with the same members everytime he adapt he overcome

[@Gibbysaurio]

@@SniperCanardo There is so much wrong with what you just said that it isn't even worth trying to analyze lmao

[@Skippppy]

@@Gibbysaurio this guy needs to watch if 4 of his teammates can win a game without him. Watch the summer season of LCK all of T1 games while Faker is out because of injury. If this guy saw what happened to JDG against T1 in the Semis. No one would doubt Faker will be MVP if that was the Finals.

[@nhutang433]

​@@GibbysaurioDo you really think League is a game about who has the biggest hands? No, its a cooperative tower defense game where shot-callers are the most important ones. And Faker is the best shot-caller that LCK could have ever produced.

[@DoctorDoody]

how can people disagree with faker getting the award

[@user-rem7c7c8qw]

Bc their lpl got stomped in worlds so they hate faker whenever they could 😂

[@Awesome8363]

I think a lot because I think people like Ruler should’ve because of their golden road and even though they lost to T1, they were more consistent throughout the year

[@sapristie8658]

@@Awesome8363 cause skt didnt do a great year beside winning world and at the world they didnt even performed vs low team and won the final vs one of the worst team possible in final

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

@@Awesome8363 Faker won his fourth title. I think that carries more weight than a golden road because by that logic, Uzi should've gotten the award bcz he's been on that grandslam road as well.

[@user-rem7c7c8qw]

@@Awesome8363 golden road? They didn't even make to finals 🤣

[@Reia.P]

As a loyal T1 fan since 2015, never doubted them even through 2018 Let's be real, Thorin mistaken the award as things like MVP Nuh uh, it's a voted award. It's a popularity contest. It always has been a popularity contest, coz no way you can compare players from different games and scenes by the same rule book So of course Faker deserves to win it because His GRINDS, the unmatched sportsmanship, humility and diligence, for years has led to his GLORY, all shown before our eyes And there's nothing to bitch about us giving the award to celebrate nice things

[@Insomnia99530]

everyone in Korea and China Grind hard in Gaming only in the West that people dont like to work hard on Esports. Thorin is just saying more players deserve it more because Faker did not really play well for the whole year His Team is Talented as well

[@evandale2197]

I was about to say the award is not for the best player but the most popular one. League esports peaked this year at worlds and the most popular player they is the icon. People were also talking about how faker is so much more marketable compared to any player so his popularity is crazy.

[@Reia.P]

@insomia1417 Yes and no. True that Faker didn't have the greatest year compared to LOTS of players. However, this is not an exam that could be marked with a rulebook. This is just a voted result, of course the storylines, popularity, impressions and recency bias takes effect. If you actually try to vote in the website, unless you're *extraordinarily* deep into esports, you might find more than half of the names and orgs unfamiliar or even unheard of, still everyone's got a vote. Just… don't take the award so seriously.

[@jaymthesn5981]

Bullshit😂

[@canyoumakeplayoffs2786]

why is even for years mentioned tho, its this year only.

[@f.calamo6658]

Faker isn't just a pillar he's a foundation of good team play for skt t1

[@OverlordMango]

Of course Faker gets the award. We've seen T1 with AND without Faker in the same year.

[@uncr0wnedKing]

Bro, don't even remind me of that. I'm getting PTSD

[@markjosephhuerno3391]

Thank God our veteran poby paved the way for rookie Faker to shine

[@EricMarch]

and we havent seen jdg without knight or ruler whats ur point xd?

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

​@@EricMarchyes but we have seen an T1 without Faker showing the public his inherent effect on the team when it is without him vs without him. I believe you saying it would be the same result with those pros is speculation. But lets be honest i aint an analyst so take that statement with a grain of salt

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

​​@@uncr0wnedKingto be honest faker's shoes are a pretty big gap to fill for anyone, hard to get a player with 3 time worlds winner experience on their resume

[@gabrielborges6593]

Hey Ryscu love your vids, brazilian here, I would just like to correct some stuff and add some extra cool info abt Cebolão: - This Cebolão season did rais 50k USD for the cancer treatment hospital but it has raised over 200k USD for different charities over all seasons (idk just something to point out since its awesome) - It peaked on twitch 185k but there was the stream on YT too, so the peak was over 250k I think, because of that it was considered the biggest community tournament in the history of league - Baiano reached IWdominate personally and asked if he wanted a costream since he liked his work a lot, dom was even offered a clean feed, without casters and such, but he loved the brazilians casters energy so even without understanding a thing, he opted for watchin the whole tournament with the brazilian casters and brazilian production. some other fun stuff is that S6 Cebolão had a all NA superteam composed of Licorice,Spica,palafox,Raven(TSM coach) and Corejj, sadly they placed 5th-6th out of the 8 teams but it was pretty fun nonetheless, and even when they were playing, IWdominate would still root for the OTP teams wich was pretty cool too

[@swe872]

i sometimes forget IWD is not that of a pos when he isnt hating on lck and sucking lpl

[@raulfonseca3299]

Foi n man, eles juntaram 250k reais pro hospital do amor, 1 milhão foi o total de doação de todos os cebolão até hoje, ele tá certo no vídeo, foi por volta de 50k dol mesmo, ele errou só pq ele disse que a doação do streamer americano foi 10k dol, mas foram 10k real, oq da uns 2k dol

[@gabrielborges6593]

@@raulfonseca3299 e acho q ele falou 2k dolares mesmo, mostrou os 1k reais mas falou 2kdol

[@hehexd5317]

​@@swe872why are redditors allowed to comment outside of their containment site

[@loafersbread]

Listening to IWillTencent and Thorin's opinion about anything League of Legends is like listening to the opinions of an elderly person with dementia they HATE everything and they get confused everytime

[@beefloag6446]

"IWillTencent" LMAO

[@Euu_-tc6hz]

while i also hate having to listen to thorin's opinion , this time i agree with him. faker wasnt the mvp in worlds and didnt do anything that crazy this year to say that he was ahead of (for example) zywoo. Not saying that faker isnt essencial in T1 but people only comparing T1 with and without faker are getting misled since he is also the shotcalller and the sub midlaner t1 had wasnt so its normal for them to lose a lot more since they arent used to not have him shot call

[@wtfdude1830]

​@@Euu_-tc6hzyeah but 1 to 7 losses is fucking massive

[@Linley-ut5jo]

​​@@Euu_-tc6hzThe award considers a mix of impact to the game, how they changed the meta, achievements and fanbase. He is just high up for all of those categories.

[@loafersbread]

@Euu_-tc6hz losing a lot and completely collapsing are two different things, and T1 during LCK 2023 Summer almost nearly collapsed when Faker was absent. Keep in mind that even without Faker the 4 other players are and still is WORLD CLASS players who are 2022 Worlds Finalists and Msi 2023 Semi Finalist. To go from being that to being stomped by teams like KDF, Brion and DRX is as close as you can get to collapsing. Without Faker's forced intervention in week 9 it's almost guaranteed that T1 would not attend Worlds this year and DRX or HLE would be the LCK's 4th representative. T1 and Faker's run almost feels like a "Fairy Tale" story or a standard Dragon Ball script where the side characters have their asses beaten before Goku (Faker in this case) steps up and intervenes.

[@ronyedson]

Just wanted to thank you for covering CBOLAO, it's really a shame that something so huge doesn't get that much recognition outside Brazil

[@TheJumperReject]

Its not just about mechanics though. Its about teamplay, leadership, shotcalling and mental fortitude. Man's been doing this for a decade and still keeping the team on point. Besides he was top 3 mechanically this worlds.

[@Guillimann]

Excellent to see you talking about CBOLÃO, we here in Brazil are very proud of what Baiano has been able to do

[@ItsInkyPaws]

Faker is amazing. . How anyone can see him not as the GOAT after the stunts he pulls? People are just jealous that he's better than all of them. He legit turned 1 match around in the semifinals with just 1 amazing play nobody expected. is that play repeatable? Yeah, sure it is, but you know what makes it difficult? turning a losing match around.

[@michakrupowicz8901]

For me the issue is you don't give mvp to a guy who didn't play for a large chunk of the season, no matter how good he was in years prior or during worlds. People don't deny the goat status but that he wasn't the best player in the world this year, for the most part he wasn't even the best player on his own team

[@bananalana1764]

​@@alexandresilva3427in that same game oner also got caught and then zeus proceed to sit on a warded bush, getting him killed too and JDG a free baron , if both zeus and oner didnt blunder then faker wouldn't have to make that flash predict play in the first place

[@sidradeave]

​@@michakrupowicz8901if a "large chunk of the season" is just four matches (that ended on losses) of summer split... ok.

[@resonance4789]

@@michakrupowicz8901 go look for the definition of "large chunk" first before you use the phrase

[@magede.9149]

@@michakrupowicz8901 yeah sure, that's why his team went 0-9 when he stopped playing with the team for his wrist injury ☠️ how strange that they played like lost animals without him in the team, you should check out the voice comms of the semi finals and final and you will understand why he is the most important player in t1

[@gabeetangela]

i am a brazilian viewer, an always watch cbolão, biggest event for the community, BAIANO MAIS UMA VEZ SALVANDO O CENÁRIO BRASILEIRO DE LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

[@lolthreaten]

All I hear is yappa yappa yappa. The man deserve the award in every way possible. Keep coping.

[@f1nex367]

Thorin is a clown anyway, i mean there is a reason why nobody in the csgo community wants anything to Do with him

[@aeclipsia]

It's his 10th year playing competitively His 4th worlds title Gold medal in asian games earning exemption from Korean mandatory military service It's literally his year

[@ojfeh]

Gold medal literally earned by while the team played with Chovy, how is this even an argument in Faker's favor?

[@zaimanity8893]

People forget it's a popularity contest. Faker and T1 won the most prestigious League tournament of the year, so they got nominated. Just like how Baldur's Gate is, how many people believe BG3 should win all the categories it is nominated for? Most people see BG3 and just vote for it regardless of what they're voting for. People trying to say someone else should win Esports Player or Team of the year versus another person is like some trying to say why another game should be voted than BG3.

[@lightspeedrescue]

Just 5 months ago, the team itself was pretty much speculated to fall apart with people assuming Faker will be forced to retire because of wrist issues. It doesn't help that T1 lost NINE games in a row while Faker was gone, people genuinely thought they'd enter Worlds then get knocked out with 0 wins. Fast forward to November 26th, T1 achieved what LPL fans termed 一串四 and destroyed 4 LPL teams(personally I don't think BLG should be counted because it was BO1) to win Worlds. Man went from wrist injury and potential retirement to winning Worlds, who else in the entire esports industry achieved such an herculean task? Thorin is a known contrarian while IWD hate T1 because he hates T1 fans. It's like looking at people who already biased against them and say "There's a drama!!!" If LPL players and former pros turn streamers can congratulate T1 and said it was team gap despite the known animosity and political and national level, who cares what 2 morons from a dead region has to say about T1?

[@PasserBy869]

Correction, T1 won 2-0 against BLG. It's a Bo3 series... They literally played the LPL best of gauntlet.

[@last_dutch_hero258]

Cringelords : "Whee Faker doesn't deserve the awards!" Me, a intulectual : "1. I never heard of the other guys so ofc Faker gets my vote. 2. Ofc. he gets the majority votes, especially since he is so positive even when something goes wrong, unlike you."

[@madsantos]

more like "Me, an ignorant"

[@NoName-ts8eo]

​@@madsantosneed a mirror?

[@drastia2246]

This... Really its so simple lets just say i have my mom or my friend in the vote as the most amazing president in the world vs people that i dont know who they are what they face is etc. Of course i pick someone i know even though its RUDICULOUS i will still pick them because i know them. Its common sense bro 😂😂😂

[@matthewaitkenfilms9477]

LOVED that initial statement against Thorin haha, good shit man

[@jetgggxd4976]

As a fellow emerald gatekeeper in ph region, i agree about everything you said apecially the "women's esports deserves rights" 😂

[@nocounterplay2966]

The PBE change is a buff or nerf depending on the champion. For instance annie can shorten her ult cast animation by casting R out of range -> flash. If you toggle on this setting and play her your tibbers would go out b4 your flash would cast through so this cast animation shortening wouldn't work anymore.

[@Ceracio]

True, but that's also a super-specific fringe-case. Most of the time it's a straight-up buff because you character won't refuse to cast an ability because they're rooted and you clicked 0.00001mm ouside of their max cast range.

[@nocounterplay2966]

@@Ceracio yeah ofc and I appreciate the change. It's just a bit strange to have a setting now which you might have to change after every few games depending on your champion pool

[@goodmusicinplaylist]

Its like seeing Messi haters coping that he didnt deserve the ballon dor for last season. Sure in terms of the "whole season" Haaland may have been performing more consistent than Messi, but the accomplishment Messi achieved last season with hard-carry winning the World Cup making him the true GOAT was uncomparable to Haaland's accomplishment(Treble is impressive but players like KDB and Rodri were also as contributing to it as much as him). Now get that logic to Faker getting his 4th with his carry in Worlds and Ruler/Knight/Chovy considerably having a more consistent year than Faker overall. Sure they might have been more consistent throughout the year, but they will never overshadow a single line "Faker got his fourth in 2023". As simple as that

[@goodmusicinplaylist]

and bringing out other esports games is also kinda invalid imo, considering how this year worlds easily broke the esports viewership records(which were mostly held by last year worlds) and thats excluding the chinese viewership. If you include that too it is estimated to be around 100 million viewers which is just insane

[@j3nki541]

Tbh its hard to argue against Faker this year. He won his 4th worlds title, has had a 10 year run in the e-Sports scene, where at the age of 23+ ppl are considered washed, best performing midlaner of the tournament and we got to see how much just his presence carries the whole team. There is honestly no one who compares. Sure, some ppl might outdo him mechanically, or in lane dominance or whatever, but this guy is a legitimate living legend and as he just proved still in his prime.

[@fistofram5526]

Not prime, atleast not mechanically. Prime would mean you're at your best in every single aspect. He is an insane morale booster and by what we saw, coordinates and keeps the team in check, which allows them to get wins.

[@sidradeave]

He also was a better midlaner than most at this tournament, so idk how this Thorin guy came to this conclussion... maybe he thinks League is a fighting game where just the 1v1 matters?

[@magede.9149]

Nah faker's mechanics and laning were the best at this worlds, like look at scout vs faker for reference and see how much impact he had. Unlike chovy with geng at worlds

[@gaywaffle3592]

@@fistofram5526 Not necessary every single aspect. For example footballers become far less fit, agile and coordinated as they age, but their understanding of the game and positioning become multiples better. By that definition, no footballer is ever in their prime.

[@DanteLovesPizza]

"Player of the year" refers to achievements they have achieved in that year, so there's no need to list his legacy. Facts: - Won the biggest tournament of the biggest e-sports game THIS YEAR - Won Asian Games of the biggest e-sports game THIS YEAR If you can name someone who achieved better and achieved more, then we can debate. "Oh my favourite player no one has heard of, of this game no one has heard of, with 2000 viewers peak in the world tournament deserves it more." - Yeah, and my butt cheeks deserve a Walk of Fame plaque each more than Michael Jackson. Funnily enough, no one else shares my opinion and the same sentiment, and there's no controversy there. "Oh, this guy who lost at Worlds deserves it more." - Huh?

[@archerist_]

Who would even disagree with thi- > Thorin yep it makes sense now

[@jackkingsman2758]

Ngl, that casting change fixes so many champs for me, I always felt a few abilities behaved so whacky without it...

[@Cresponia]

Viktor is basically unplayable without this change. He's always felt clunky and this should fix a lot

[@jetia8607]

Love these quick league news everyday! keep it up

[@Bread-jf5do]

I also think it's worth considering that it is literally impossible to make this award have a lot to do with skill. These are esports players from all sorts of games that aren't comparable. Other things need to be considered, like how influential they are in their particular game, maybe things like sportsmanship, consistency, ect. Considering Faker might be one of the most well-known esports players in the world, yeah, I think he deserved it.

[@Discotechque]

Finally, Yasuo can get treatment in Brazil courtesy of Mordekaiser.

[@lizpark9854]

Are people still shocked that people are going to have a different opinion as them? Cmon lol Congrats to Faker though, I think it’s an amazing feat to play at that level, make game winning plays, 10 years into his career. That truly takes hard work and an immense amount of dedication. Knight was ranked best mid at the tournament and he wiped the floor with him-Faker was the best mid and he proved it. It was an underdog story. Nobody thought T1 would win, esp in the manner they did. That’s what made this victory that much more impactful. T1 Fighting!!

[@YuYuYuna_]

Quite a bit of a difference between disagreeing with a pick for a FAN-VOTED award aka a popularity award and disliking someone who does nothing but shit down the throat of the literal undisputed best player of all time Faker. Thorin has always been an insufferable manchild. I knew of him back during the StarCraft 2 days.

[@ojfeh]

"wiped the floor with him" is such a massive overstatement. Go and actually watch the games again. You can argue Faker played better that series, but you make it sound so much worse. The way Knight outperformed Faker at MSI was MUCH more convincing that this anyways.

[@mrwafflesKR]

As a t1 fan and yes, we all love faker, we will all say that, that jdg 3rd set toss was when faker became a god to our eyes. The return fro injury couldve been just an influence but that toss reminded us of "아 맞다 우리 고전파 있었지!" We remembered what faker COULD do

[@3Dgaymer]

I mean, even after coming back, Faker was still not the best player in the world, I think it’s delusional to say he was watching other players at worlds even in his own team, but the impact he had is undeniable and it extends outside of just his gameplay and we could see that when he was absent due to injury in the lck. There are other esports where the nominated players were indeed the best in their respective games like Zywoo for cs for example. As an esports figure I think Faker was this years biggest player, as a pure skill/performance competition I don’t know if he’d be up there but he has so many things going for him specially narrative wise that it’s hard to make a case for him not winning it

[@reginaldmustardbacon5866]

Yeah i think he deserves it just as much as the other players nominated. tbh it is pretty close but it is a why not sorta question so i dont get people being so against it

[@JV10q]

The one who said he didn't deserve it is stupid. It was a voting award. 6 Million and more viewers watched the finals. It was a popularity contest. I still think he deserved it though. Watched him grind since 2018.

[@qGods]

If we were to treat the award as a form of MVP award, no single player has EVER had the impact Faker had this year, except arguably 2017 Faker. a team going from 1 and 7 to destroying every LPL team, including the favorites to win the tournament all after Faker's return, is a storyline unheard of in Esports as a whole. And its not like Faker was just cruising along, he has legitimate claim for being the best performing player at the tournament, and was undoubtedly the best midlaner at the tournament, dumpstering the likes of Knight, Scout, Yagao and Xiahou. He undoubtedly is the person on that list MOST deserving of the award

[@mirkodjukic8561]

Hey Thorin.. What color is your 4th world championship?

[@daughtermedicine123]

@@alexandresilva3427 imagine being a thorin fan KEKW

[@dragonsheen3049]

faker being the best isnt only about him being a mechanical demon in lane or in fights, its about his incredible shotcalling. he understands the game like no one else and hes able to keep track of both his and the enemy teams positions, spells, you name it. thats why he got best esports player. t1 would never have gotten to worlds, let alone won, if it wasnt for faker taking the lead.

[@xhunterx9636]

so shotcalling is more important than being consistent and good whole year like Chovy zeus Gumayusi? faker had one good tournament and doesn't deserve an achievement over other players, it's just that low elo fans voted him due to popularity 😊

[@shinobuu__]

bro said chovy like he didnt choke at both international tournaments this year.@@xhunterx9636

[@amissa5362]

⁠​⁠@@xhunterx9636if you think competing at the highest is all about mechanics, highlights, or kDa youll never make it into any competitive scene in your life. Idk how you think a team is gonna win a championship without a shot caller. And didn't your “consistent player” Chovy lose quarters??? And you're talking???

[@piyanatkundej8848]

@@amissa5362He’s coping HARD. Give him a break lol.

[@AnythingYouTube.]

@@xhunterx9636what did choky achieve? 4th at msi? quarters at worlds? such players don’t deserve to be mentioned agent 4484 🤣

[@slimeplort]

One of the important things to note about Faker's return, is that it proved that the obsession with players being as young as possible and having a small window where they're at their best is false. That's a very big deal in my eyes. Esports in general has had that obsession for a long time, and they've killed a lot of professional players because of it. The atmosphere has always been generally shitty on how they treat players. Just changing the dynamic on that alone deserves recognition.

[@pumime9963]

All hail faker no one in esports Dominated League like faker.

[@saimyintmyat9373]

Dendi " Ah yeah, you Totally forgot about me right ? "

[@lucalyons-sosa9843]

The cast range thing will make spells more consistent with one another but imo inarguably affects skill expression which has been eroding away as it is and is more important to me as a player. Knowing your cast range to instantly get off an ability without indicators is a part of mastering many champions and taking that away reduces the gap between a good player and a bad one. It’s half the difficulty of landing abilities like viktor e because if you cast out of range you can often distinguish that the champ is tethered to the cast allowing for more time to dodge. Bad change me thinks.

[@JustAViewer44]

At this point I think people like Torin or whatever is just making a fuss over nothing.

[@sidradeave]

Farming views and google searches i suppose... no one knows ho the guy is lol.

[@MadIIMike]

I think Faker deserves the award. You can argue weither or not he had the most impact or whatever, but he's been at the top for a decade and I don't think I ever saw something about him behaving badly or whatever. IMO it's also often overlooked how much Faker does for the Team (and not just him, T1 in general), rather than "win the lane, lose the game". Seeing this kind of approach lead to a title feels much better than having 1-2 Star-Players carry their Teams.

[@TakarieZan]

You out it perfectly. I was about to say I dont know those other players but the fact that a) he came back and got a worlds tournament is insane b) not all tournaments are created equal. Worlds is the biggest league tournaments and one of the biggest e sports tournaments out there and c) his impact on the team is insane and he did this while returning from injury. So I would say Faker is worthy; especially because NEITHER of these two individuals mentioned anyone else on that list that had a better path. None of them mentioned their achievements. I dont really get doninate. Like I’ve only seen him in drama or complaining about something.

[@drastia2246]

Thats it, we dont know those other player... So why we need to pick them if we dont know them? Might as well pick who we know right?

[@arcadiawhimsies]

Also was the first time an NA team played in the CBOLÃO, team is called Near Airport and consists of Licorice, Spica, Palafox, Reven and CoreJJ.

[@bonkboyderp8052]

lol community try not to make drama for 5 secconds challenge impossible

[@thekilla1234]

This drama is so redundant. If Faker didn't win it then there would be drama that he didn't win it. There was going to be drama no matter who won it because a case can be made for all of them to both win it and not win it.

[@Flare3500]

Fucking christ do people need Faker to leave for a month again and have Poby sub in , Faker's contribution to the team is invisible to everyone except the team, you won't see in the scoreboards , you won't see it in gold or cs difference , you won't see it in the damage difference But everyone felt it when he left for a month

[@rejuvinatedghostd8769]

Faker literally has a 50% world's winrate. And in the 4 worlds he didn't win, he was either a finalist or a semi finalist

[@aaronortiz7818]

Great content as always! Cheers from the U.S. 🎉

[@Gibbysaurio]

It's crazy seeing all these faker fanboys in the comments say "of course faker should have gotten the award, who else?". You probably haven't watched a single match of any other e-sport, let alone name any other great player of any other game that ever mattered. I personally would have given it to someone like Arslan Ash, won his 4th evo, just like a certain someone, is also the goat of his game, hmmm, and comes from a country that doesn't even distribute Tekken, doesn't have sponsored arcades, and faces literal hours of power outages every day. They make their own makeshift arcade machines and controllers, and people import the games and parts when they travel to other countries. Guy is the undisputed best while coming from a community that was literally unknown before him and a country that is holding him back at every turn, but no lets give it to faker because he used to be really good like 7 years ago and now he played really good for two days and won worlds, neat.

[@tuhoang8352]

Lots of crying, ur fave needs the award for people to know who he is, Faker doesnt't

[@Gibbysaurio]

@@tuhoang8352 you know that just proves that casuals like you only know the goat of worse dota lmao

[@leozebiLeonArmy]

i dont like that you put that sexist comment about thorin. its between you and him and noone else and to say something like this just shows your character brother its a league of legends video. stay on topic. disliked for this vid, do better bud . and im not a thorin lover i havent even watched his videos, i follow you and your bud rival. talk to him i think he knows me. im one of his oldest subscribers.

[@distributistsshrekvideo]

what was the sexist comment?

[@darknyx9876]

Even if he it wasn’t his peak, awards are just popularity contests at the end of the day, and if you’re someone who’s known by people outside of the community you’re a part in is a huge deal.

[@ajwaddanwarr3409]

Thorin is like wart that just won't go away. Also its really cringy being that invested in E-sports after 30, enjoy the game sure but let the younglings decide what they like and don't like. I am almost 30 and I haven't been invested in E-sports in ages, this was like the first time 5-6 years watching league cause I heard T1 might just do it again. It was really cool watcing with some of my interns, but it also reinforced the idea that its time to let go of videogames and to move on!

[@Herzzinfucked]

Yeah if you truely believe the magical number 30 is going to change your entire personality or should force you to behave according to whatever "standards" society has engraved into your mind, you really aren't in a position to judge anyone regarding their free time.

[@oliversotir3914]

@@Herzzinfucked Agreed. I am 33 and I don´t give a flying fwark what others choose to do in their free time, neither should they be telling me that ít´s time to lay off games. I will still boot up my Ps5 and play God of War Ragnarok on the highest difficulty. And beat it. Or play some League of Legends and sprint it down mid.

[@dendiRTZ-xg5wb]

It's becoming normal that people will criticize someone' achievement to make a scene on social media.

[@CrystallizedSoul]

Faker is literally the BIGGEST esports name out there. He deserved the reward, regardless of what some jealous people might say.

[@AdamSmashedHer]

When he came back from injury T1 wasnt even making playoffs let alone worlds and he quickly sent them straight to the LCK final with little to no preparation. He proved he was the most important piece in a team of talented but still young players who will only get better from here. He made league pro play great and he holds up just right while others from his generation fell off and even retired. But i guess an Esports historian, whatever the fck that means, knows better. Besides the award is kinda weird in the first place since you can't really compare pro players among different games as the levels differ. Still i believe that Faker is the most dominant out of all the other candidates, as he continues his legacy after 10 years, not many players can boast that.

[@semihtandogan9500]

if u think faker doesnt deserve this award this year, u are delusional

[@ImAlpine]

Just being real, this is why I can't watch Dom or Thorin. This is such an example arguing for the sake of argument. In every award ever that's voted on, there will be an argument that it could've gone to someone else. But it's not like Faker DIDN'T have good reason to win it this year. It's just drumming up reactions.

[@nenadmiljkovic4645]

At this point Thorin is not an esports historian, he is a comedian.

[@mikeruryuji1916]

The dude has literally an auto blocker bot if you like or type in any user he doesn't like in twitter says all you need to know about him dude is too insecure and shet to the point he has anti you may have possibility of saying bad shet to me instant lock

[@VeeZzz123]

fr

[@chaptermastermoloc4171]

There's a really great Chinese comment on their forum. " It's not that Faker is worthy of their award, It is them if they're worthy of Faker's acclaim." Chinese community have a huge respect on Faker.

[@khoohao9659]

Nah, they hate him, cuz he always the one that block their team to win. They have a saying in worlds "How far the LPL team go depends on when they met Faker"

[@chaptermastermoloc4171]

@@khoohao9659 🤣😂🤣

[@baseult116]

To be honest, I kinda agree. Although Faker's performance in Worlds was impressive, I wouldn't necessarily say it was the absolute "best" in 2k23 comparing to all other players. In my opinion, the Azir play, for example, was a bit overhyped. The e -> q -> flash -> r combo is something that even most gold players can pull off. Don't get me wrong, I was so excited and proud that Faker and his team won Worlds again. But it rather felt like his team carried him more than he carried his team. Well I guess ppl just like the publicity of faker winning his 4. world medal now, as iconic as he is.

[@GoodMemories77]

🤡

[@jetia8607]

🤡

[@AcediaRulerOfSloth]

Pulling it off in gold vs gold opponents and pulling it off vs a team slated to be on track for golden road in a losing game is clearly the same

[@hsenpai9370]

🤡

[@m54354]

They will roast you with clown and skull emotes for having your own opinion, be careful man

[@fredbcruz]

Brazil mentioned! Cebolão was so much fun! Imagine OG tsm with xpecial and dyrus playing against OG C9, that was 2015 Pain Gaming vs Exodia INTZ for us.

[@hamishthompson1409]

dom is such a cringe hater

[@Toothbooths]

faker glazer

[@chez-bubulle]

The shade on thorin was nice

[@GraveXSensei]

As if Gen Z opinion matter .. Who tf is this Thorin guy? First time I saw him .. Must be an irrelevant human ~ 😂😂😂

[@rafaelsobrozavieira1530]

Cbolão is the real deal in Brazilian competitive scene. And a quick trivia about it, cebola is onion in portuguese, and cebolão is big onion. This name came from a joke with the official tournament being named CBLoL that is pronounced arguably alike cebolão. There is a rule that forbid to ban an OTP champion. In the early editions of the tournament it used to be overtaken by full OTP teams that destroyed teams full of pro players, when people started mocking pros they started forming teams earlier and training to compete, from then on we only have pro player team champions.

[@kaird8521]

faker is overated af fr

[@user-rem7c7c8qw]

Faker and lpl teams are both overrated but faker won worlds and lpl doesn't they just remembered as 11-1

[@kuroeiyuu7692]

​@@user-rem7c7c8qwalso, he won more worlds than lpl now which is 4 to 3

[@vrmax1919]

Tell me a better player ?

[@kaird8521]

@@vrmax1919 theyre is plenty of better player just not as famous

[@hagypotah]

@@kaird8521 and that alone doesn't make them better. try harder than that

[@Macxermillio]

Faker is the man who knew Zeus would not die topside when he was getting collapsed on in the final and made the call. I wonder how many more calls like that he has made

[@TheRagheb95]

People over estimate themselves. They should feel honored for being nominated with the biggest name in Esports history, not just league, and for the guy who keeps breaking record after record. The award was deserved, Faker is the GOAT. They are so petty xD

[@CaffeinatedFennec]

Thank god it's a togglable option for the new feature, the ability to aim outside your max range but only cast when you're within range is key to input buffering and would destroy the kits of a lot of champions.

[@envy4848]

I dont play Orianna very much so this will be so nice with how much shes also in the meta where I wont have to walk up for not knowing her Q range

[@lerme12]

Damn they be talking mad shit for people who aren’t 4 time world champions

[@WoodenPlatform]

Really hope the cast range change doesn't affect ult's like malph and annie. Precasting annie ult and then flashing is one of her only tricks that makes her viable in higher elo

[@hdkonvick6299]

"Oceanian superserver" got me dying what the fooooock xD

[@Timeforspas12]

Baiano keeps saying he needs to save Brazilian league's scene, turns out he's doing way more than that.

[@SleepyFen]

Over the duration of a decade, Faker has been by far the best professional player to play League of Legends. Even if he didn't win worlds 10 times in a row, he competed at the highest level every single year. Thorin is just salty, probably because he lost a bet on who would win. Faker absolutely deserves the accolades. I wouldn't put any stock into the opinions of salty has-beens.

[@th_Othni]

"overvalues worlds" Maybe try winning one.. xd

[@Chris____.]

The DIFFERENCE people are not realizing between Faker and all the other Pros is super simple. Everyone knows Faker, nobody knows a nobody (i mean that very literal). Faker played and Won the Worlds when the game was on its PEAK (Overwatch and LoL tournaments talks every week, "ESports Job" was more popular than KZbinr). He left when other games stole the spotlight for ESports (Fortnite Esports, CSGO, CoD tourneys bringing attention splitting audiences). People have NEVER even heard of who won the next Championships, yet people recognize Faker from Animations, Music, Clips, Memes, and just looking at fucking LoL. Who cares if "this guy did amazing the last 1/2/3 years", cuz new people werent watching these past few years, the audience is just not the same, the popularity and traction these Teams bring is so much more Niche and Closed than how it started. You could hear "Game tournaments taking a storm" on the NEWS, meanwhile you now only hear about these events if youre ALREADY IN the gamingspace.

[@PatoGamerPlays]

Cbolão is pronounced like cbolaum Which is a little joke as the brazilian official championship is CBLOL (campeonato brasileiro de league of legends) and CBLÃO is just read as cebolão which translates to "big onion" (and has no meaning besides the literal one) That's why the mascot is an onion

[@Shayanzass]

Faker might not be the best player, but he's the best shot caller hands down.

[@arcanegale285]

about the QOL change, to me every time that was forced (Syndra Q, Seraphine Q) I called it a nerf, and the reason is simple, I want my character to use that ability on that spot, not max range, therefore I want them to move closer and use it and not use it instantly at current max range. Viktor E I'm unsure of how it'll be since it's such a unique ability, but abilities like Sera Q are really bad with this.

[@ink66]

Some people can't stay quiet because they want to be right or they want attention. Faker is a cool guy, and he's clearly built a reputation that made people vote for him. If anyone else won only the bitter would whine. Leave it to our community to not be happy for someone that's been here for so long.

[@db.1304]

Oh that max range change is super nice!! I complain about the inconsistency of how some spells cast at max range and some make you walk to where you casted, happens all the time with graves W for me.

[@Suds_Mc_Duff]

knowing ultimate cooldowns within 5-10 seconds, mid fight shot calling etc are clearly more important than individual skill. if anything faker is underrated because of how much focus is on flashy plays

[@MonsterBandage]

So it does work for Victor and Rumble's drag skillshot too. I can finally start playing them. I always end up missing the timing for those when casting out of range

[@rdr.erased]

3:32 never understood why this change wasnt made years ago

[@Teoachis]

Faker deserved the award in my opinion!

[@thewalsh2k047]

That change actually stops the w ward flash Lee sin interaction nooo, no more Chinese insecs or any fancy lee sin plays

[@gabe9125]

There are many more dimensions to how "good" a player is than strictly their performance and numbers in competition. Faker is a player who makes everyone around him better, from his direct leadership to his leading by example. The other thing that makes Faker so good is his longevity. Every season, there's a player better than him. They peak at the right time, the meta favors their playstyle, and they have a tremendous year or two. Marin, Uzi, Perkz, Caps, Knight, DoinB, etc, all have been in the "best player in the world right now" conversation. And they've all fallen back out of that conversation after a season or two. Faker, at his mechanical worst, has still been top 3 KR midlaners, and at his best has been the best midlaner in the world by a longshot. That level of consistently high performance is INSANE.

[@hdkonvick6299]

Faker is an ICON. I knew who faker was before i reached level 5 in League, i didnt see an esport event til i was level 30. Thats how big of an icon he is

[@Gibbysaurio]

You think that ICONS dont exist in other games? xd

[@hdkonvick6299]

Ofc they do. But Faker stands out for me cause he is pretty much the only icon in LoL. Like CS has Simple. F0rest,Device and the list goes on. But League is biggest esport there is@@Gibbysaurio

[@Trevan2412]

The new settings are nice but I'd really wish we could change quick cast and ground target settings separately for each champ

[@dragomaster2422]

T1 with Poby instead of Faker would have just made Worlds be like the LPL championships from the semifinals.

[@journials3283]

That QOL change is huge. HUGE

[@thexpurt]

If people want the true "best" performing PC player across ALL titles to win that award, they need to have a group of people that are familiar with all of the Esports nominated. If the general public is asked to vote, it WILL be a popularity contest. Can you really blame all these people for picking the most famous Esports player of all time that just won the world championship over players they have never seen play a single game in their respective fields? It was pretty inevitable.

[@Lsir]

When your at your highest , People will drag you down with them.

[@TheSirVivor]

how can people not see that Thorin is practically a twitter hater at this point tbh? like those twitter(or X) keyboard warriors that will hate on every single thing no matter how big or small it is. some might even say he's the Karen of Esports at this point.

[@lewisk3725]

Thorin's one of those contrarians ragebaiting for attention. Best to just ignore him when it comes to League of Legends. Also these types of awards are not just for being the "Best Player". It's also about media impact and narrative, and yes about popularity as well. The narrative this year for SKT and Faker was absurdly good this year, in no small part to Worlds teaser created by Phil Choi and Riot.

[@powerguido8181]

It's funny hearing like "things from the Brazillian comunitty normally don't make their way to the western side", like, correct me if I'm wrong, but WE ARE WESTERNERS! Anyway, it's really good to see visibility being brought to the CBOLÃO, it made me (and a lot of other Brazillians for sure) really happy to have a light being shined on our server haha

[@ioakimantonis4687]

Hahaha was thinking about that too that didn't make any sense lmao I guess he could call u guys southerners

[@VietTheLamer]

Bro won the JDG series, their most important all tournament, in one single ultimate