FalconNW: How THEIR 56 cores Beats AMD's 64 cores Out of the Box!

1500 watts out of the wall! So much power!!! We've got a Xeon w9-3495x paired with custom cooling sitting above an Nvidia 4090 GPU all housed within a custom Level1Techs case!
Thank you Falcon Northwest for this super cool, and mega-powerful PC!
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[@Falcon_Northwest]

Thanks for the fantastic review Wendell! Sure, overclockable Xeon W is a really interesting product when you feed it the power it wants and cool it enough. But what your audience really wants to know is HOW WAS THE COFFEE? :)

[@cortneywebb1677]

Should mount the radiator beside the case then you can safely place coffee mug on it and keep it warm longer lol

[@BBWahoo]

IT'S THE EAGLE FROM THE BOX, HE...HE CAN TALK!!

[@handquake]

....and why didn't he use the cup? :-)

[@teensuicide9103]

Shoulda put in orange cream soda

[@scarletspidernz]

What happen to Punch SouthEast?

[@julianfiacconi709]

You are so well spoken and knowledgeable. Thanks for giving us this channel of tech info and most relevant to us enthusiasts.

[@theldun1]

FalconNorthwest has been my dream system builder for over 30 years!

[@urmensch12]

Good Lord that PC is an work of art

[@Marin3r101]

A work of art...get it right.

[@xephael3485]

With an art studio price tag

[@kahless0173]

For what falcon has charged historically it better be. But they can always be counted on for quality.

[@daverayment]

Please note that the performance graphs show percentages relative to a 100% baseline. For example 117% means an uplift of 17% and 280% means 180% faster than the other system under test. This is important to get right. The machine itself seems to prove that Intel can (literally!) power its way past AMD, but that doesn't sit well with me. I'd prefer an efficient box even if it leaves some perf on the table.

[@XDbored1]

it depends on your definition of efficiency, as you require higher ratios of IO/compute your idle efficiency goes out the window, but the extra horsepower in most cases allows much better efficiency then what you could do trying to network 2 different computers, 10gb lan or 100/200gb is much more expensive then just building a bigger server as far power consumption goes if you just want low idle power a phone will be best, low idle power but still usable maybe a macbook, moderate idle, reliability and gaming performance a 13600k, things get niche when you have to decide if a 16 core CPU is enough, or if you need lots of PCIE lanes, or lots of memory channels, or if you need as much compute as possible, or the highest compute/watt possible the most efficient design possible for multi-threaded compute would be all the ecores in the world underclocked with 1 channel memory and no pcie lanes, but that would be a terrible computer

[@gbjbaanb]

It's diffident for workstations, most of the time its going to be idling anyway, except for few times when you blast it out to 100%, Servers need the efficiency as they're likely to be working constantly. Your daily work of surfing the web on this isn't going to use any power. Shame these benchmark reviews only focus on max power draw rather than idling.

[@error4159]

I've wanted a Falcon Northwest PC since the Falcon 3.0 days, lol. Their 486DX-66 rigs were the shit

[@xephael3485]

Expensive 💩

[@error4159]

@@xephael3485 But that good 💩

[@xephael3485]

@@error4159 not when you look at the $$$

[@error4159]

@@xephael3485 Building your own will always be cheaper but if buying a you're looking for a prebuilt system paying more will often get you a better parts, assembly and warranty.

[@ickebins6948]

@@error4159 How will a prebuilt get you better parts? I get all the parts I want when I build my system... and warranty? Not really...

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

TIL Falcon Northwest still exists. It's like its 1995 again.

[@DaleEarnhardtsSeatbelt]

They may not be the flashiest. But their quality and support is amazing.

[@Kingvoakahustla]

This is amazing..love your review and what the guys at falcons are doing. They always use quality PC parts. If you guys wants a budget systems this is not for you. But if you want the best of the best quality performance without any compromise then this is it!

[@iLegionaire3755]

BEAST tier PC for one of the greatest PC enthusiast channels on KZbin!

[@ThisIsAGoodUserNameToo]

Lol you were really excited opening that up

[@102728]

Love to see Wendel geeking out on ridiculously fast tech :D

[@personaldronerepair6141]

That case looks great! Wow!......that is a monster!

[@DMSparky]

Falcon systems have always been super nice. Their paint and graphics department have produced some gorgeous work over the years. If I was a rich man I might buy a system from them just to have a Falcon case.

[@owenness6146]

Thanks for these reviews, Wendell & L1. Enterprise, whether Workstation or Server, is always about the reliability and warranty. Mere hours after unboxing these are tools that need to live under full load for as long as possible. I'm happy to see the Red & Blue competition now giving me something overclockable & dependable. Falcon Northwest & competitors can now offer a greater range of products that highlight their build quality and team effort.

[@chrisbullock6477]

I think there were alot of eye rolls, Saying " Well took them long enough " Most IT solutions and small software companies have moved on to Threadripper Pro/EPYC though, but kudos to Intel for getting inventive.

[@JamesMCrutchley]

It is kind of funny how tech works some times. My local transit authority says they are less than 15 years away from validating a much needed upgrade to 80386 for the automation system used to control the trains. They said it might happen. But not to worry they had existing contracts with IBM that would required delivery of really old PC's for another 50 years. They are still looking for people to fill programming jobs in Cobol and other really old languages. They are still trying to get funding to upgrade software but are unlikely to get the funding required. They signed an obscenely large contract back in the 70's that was for like 100 years and have stockpiles of hardware. The gov will not allow them to upgrade the existing software without complete validation of every line of code. It took them over a billion dollars back in the late 70's early 80' and over 10 years to do it the first time. The trains have never had a crash and/or anything that was a safety issue that made the news here. It is kind of hard to believe they have operated automated trains on multiple different tracks with zero crashes for more than 45 years. But they did it. And it still runs off a floppy disk. Complete proprietary solution that does a single thing.

[@DMSparky]

Seems like old tech but if contracts are already in place and it works well don’t change it.

[@username8644]

Hard to completely change an existing system when a ton of people depend on it every day and especially when budgets are super tight and are managed by the government. This isn't a surprise at all.

[@TAP7a]

I’d still love to see a climate model like ExoPlaSim run on a beast like that. Would be amazing to see something with the horses to actually tackle moderate resolution (like, hundreds of pixels in each dimension) runs

[@Foiliagegaming]

Wendell, I need to start working like you. A man of priority.

[@pishbot]

hi wendell. perfect build for heavy compile, or a marathon stellaris gaming session!

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

Linus is in the background salivating madly.

[@cortneywebb1677]

I almost went W7-2495x but the performance especially single core was not as much as I had expected plus when they released they went out of stock etc... Got tired of waiting and built a consumer grade platform the 7950X " non 3D ". I wanted to stay with Intel just got tired of waiting was looking to upgrade from X299. So far decently happy with my system as a whole.

[@xephael3485]

Why stay with Intel?

[@cortneywebb1677]

@@xephael3485 many reasons but one being I do use Intel optane.

[@username8644]

@@xephael3485 Stability

[@username8644]

I don't understand why you were even considering workstation/server lineups if a consumer platform works for you. Why spend 5x more if you don't need it? Edit: And I'm sticking to x299, in my books there still isn't an upgrade available for it and x299 is still viable. The PCIe lanes alone make it worth it over any current consumer lineup. And if you don't need those than just get whatever consumer cpu you like.

[@johnnygreene4658]

You always make some of the best technology videos. That's why Steve and Linus come to you for expertise. 👏👏👏

[@gregoryburzy468]

Wendell, you are my favorite person I've never met. Thanks for being a heck of a guy.

[@treyquattro]

looking forward to the Level1Linux deeper dive

[@Fractal_32]

That was a great review! Also I enjoyed the coffee break bit even though I dislike coffee in general. I was wondering for this system being a high quality work station why did it have a RTX 4090 instead of being equipped with a couple RTX 6000’s?

[@AdmV0rl0n]

That power bill is only ok if you are living in laa laa land in terms of power billing. For more people, thats fast becoming a no no. In the UK, the price energy cap only exists for homes, business gets zero shielding.

[@callofdutyfreak10123]

I’ve never been so invested in watching someone make a mf cup of coffee

[@nathanlowery1141]

Better than finding mf snakes on mf planes 😂

[@mosamaster]

100,000 + Cinebench score!!!

[@Level1Techs]

In one socket and just under 1kw :D

[@Tulah]

Fancy cup holder, the whole PC case since optical drive doesn't exist. \o/

[@riankatoen-yt5gv]

Lol, you riling us up was hilarious. It worked.

[@jelipebands1700]

That falcon packs a Punch a falcon punch

[@fteoOpty64]

Molecular Bonding eh ?!. Nice!.

[@VideogamesAsArt]

Zen 4 threadripper is supposed to come early Q4 or late Q3. Noctua will unveil next-gen threadripper coolers in Q3 so it shouldn't take more than a month or two from then

[@Kelekona_808]

I think Intel knows is fully aware who actually knows how to competently test their HED chips in the tech tuber space ;). Grats on the custom livery Wendell. Can't wait to see what you end up using this for long term.

[@flweeptwo]

Might need to use that second PSU functionality soon

[@bernds6587]

Only after setting OC to the Xeon, it overtakes the Threadripper.. but: what happens if you compare it to an overclocked threadripper Pro aswell? Otherwise I would find it unfair....

[@Chris-6768wv]

Get a Ouija board!! Love the commercial, great review.

[@kurthectic2902]

Imagine how many Linux kernels this beast can compile :)

[@robertpearson8546]

What is the comparison of the Xeon professor and the GreenArrays GA-144? I realize that increasing the number of processors can increase the required time to completion. But what about a direct executing stack-based processor vs a slightly modified von Neumann processor?

[@juniorjunior8494]

Great video, and the fact that you were able to use such a new complex platform without many issues does speak to what Pat has been silently echoing publicly - an acceptance of delayed products, while asserting that the company aims to release quality silicon. I always thought their quality was better than competition, but it seems there's a new standard they are trying to set with any released products, which is good to see, in a world where bugs are now the norm and tolerated. I've never owned this class of product, but i always thought they were aimed for the select few who can tolerate above average levels of instability, as such, i didn't think this would be an easy launch

[@BuzzKiller23]

I never need to get riled up to watch a video with Wendell

[@stefannilsson2406]

The drop in upgrade CPU's will probably be 13th gen core since these are 12th gen core. So we can get a pretty good idea on what the performance increase will be, unless they decide to put some of the server accelerators on them. This is all assuming they release an upgrade for the socket. Which I hope they will.

[@TeflonBilly426]

Loved the coffee break interlude.

[@jangelelcangry]

Those "ugly" heatsinks looks much better than the Gamery aluminum blocks on normal boards. That board is gorgeous IMO.

[@IthacaDon]

So I am just now coming up to speed on the FNW Talon and planning on ordering soon. My main use will be Davinci Resolve Studio and no nothing about Xeon except the impression it is for servers. Would a Xeon be better for rendering? Sorry for the naïve question. Please guide me to a source where I can know about the best choices. Thanks!

[@savage_tribal_chief]

100% coolest dude and video 😎👍

[@sebastianlesinski2284]

Wendel and his sense of humour :D priceless

[@RR-hl6zi]

That Falcon mug sure must feel left behind.

[@robertpearson8546]

Is the SeaSonic PSU using the 1920/1988 circuit or a 2020 design?

[@Walczyk]

This is so damn cool

[@kleanthisgroutides7100]

Any internals of the system and also will the case be available separately?

[@iamamish]

I considered myself an enthusiast until I started pricing one of these out at Falcon, and I lost my...enthusiasm

[@prodeous]

for TR PRo, with AsRock board, what kind of OC can be applied? But I'm happy that intel stepped up with competition. This will force AMD to respond, and then intel respond and we all get better stuff :)

[@TheBibliofilus]

Is this the preface for L1Techs setting up a automated AI stock-trading powerhouse? 🤔

[@MrDannysomebody]

do you know if they do financing for their buyers ?

[@floodo1]

Can’t wait till I get a PcIe 5 SSD. Making sure I’d be able to run one of those was a key factor when I built my pc 8 months ago

[@Fractal_32]

Gen 5 x4 lane M.2 SSDs have the best sequential reads however Intel Optane has the best random read and writes while being gen 3 x4 lanes.

[@floodo1]

@@Fractal_32 as usual, wise to "do both"

[@robertpearson8546]

What good will a 20 A power cord do in a 15 A wall outlet?

[@HerculesMare3]

I would love to run this system with Houdini and Renderman.

[@asdf51501]

How about Folding@Home work units? How fast generally?

[@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar]

Fancy coffee maker build 😎 with the mug and decals... don't tell me why there's dual USB2.0 ports next to a VGA port 🙄

[@fracturedlife1393]

Totally raging, broke my cafetiere just after lunch. Horrible afternoon. Super jelly.

[@tachyon5321]

Had a tiki for many years.

[@emilrenstrom8673]

Would love to see how it handles CFD or FDS.

[@jmwintenn]

this reminds me, i was looking at xidax the other day and they claim to be able to do 64gb or 128gb(cant remember) at 6000mhz on am5. it's on the configurator.

[@wewillrockyou1986]

We really need more benchmarks of these Sapphire Rapids workstation parts, especially the 2400 series, Intel is doing themselves a disservice by hiding what is really quite an interesting release.

[@anothersiguy]

We’ve been using workstations from Boxx for render and laser scan processing workflows (most recently a few TR Pro rigs). They’ve been ok but this Falcon system definitely seems like a step up in terms of build quality

[@notmyfaultthisishappening3795]

what's wrong with the boxx? is the build quality not good, or the fans noisy?

[@tomhollins5303]

"This thing can best the 5000 series thread ripper. Which I mean a DDR5 platform I mean should be a big accomplishment right? But aaarrrrgggghhhh! I got to get you riled up so that you will stick around for the whole video aaaarrrrgggghhhhh.!.... uugghhh." Its shit like this that makes us trust you.

[@dankodnevic3222]

Nice gear, but price boost is much higher then performance boost. For that price, one can put more then couple of 13900K systems and share the load among them. If load is sharable, of course.

[@christian6x]

time for coffee !

[@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar]

1 jigawatt worth a gaming session😂and music

[@TVperson1]

Wendel is like a Kid on Christmas 😆

[@mitch7918]

$15000 for any single desktop is just insane. You could legitimately build TWENTY 13900K systems fully specced out and have yourself an INSANE compute cluster with that. This box is ridiculous sure but 15k???? For who???

[@xephael3485]

Idiots trying to compensate for something

[@username8644]

Definitely not 20. More like 10. And if you include the same GPU for each than more like 5. Edit: and it would consume A LOT more power.

[@thientranduc-pu2nn]

Finally, a pre-built that can go against the Dell Alienware

[@rodhester2166]

That is one awesome machine.. crazy cool. .. hmm .. crazy cool would be a great cooling product name for a pc part.. I prefer the old style bios. I dont need a bunch of fancy looking graphics for bios..

[@jaxxarmstrong]

I get a mixed feelings of Fred Flintstone and Family Guy watching this video. Haha, awesome!

[@larsjrgensen5975]

1200-1500 Watts, my house can not even support that without hooking up pc watercooling to the central heating and boiler system to get rid of all that heat.

[@username8644]

You microwave is the same wattage mate. It's really not that bad.

[@larsjrgensen5975]

@@username8644 Do you microwave 3 hours every day?

[@FlyingShoe]

How do you find a velociraptor? Distance/time raptor.

[@ayylien]

That ASUS pro motherboard is nice, I looked at the AMD workstation version and its lacking compared to Intel, guess ASUS still plays favorites. They are nice motherboards considering it has tons of high speed expansion that "Gamer" boards lack.

[@Ryet9]

re-upload? 🤔 Edit: Yes, but always a good morning with more Wendell & Coffee ☕

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

There's only one thing wrong here. Why doesn't it have Thunderbolt?

[@FredsTech1]

Amazing! ❤

[@lionelt.9124]

rofl , Falcon Heavy!

[@guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248]

My awesome $2700 ibuypower pc cost $4800 on Falcon NW. "A fool and his money are soon parted."

[@TAP7a]

Anyone got any recommendations for a reverse POE switch?

[@nathanlowery1141]

I recommend flipping it right side up for better cooling 😅

[@stefanbehrendsen330]

🤩

[@FakeMichau]

12:24 cold?

[@mrfilipelaureanoaguiar]

Ideas for jobs, compiling software benchmark like compiling blender or other github open sources.

[@gr-os4gd]

How about full distro builds?

[@bdhale34]

How? By using more power than AMD's 192 core part. Also costing more than AMD's 96 core part.

[@abavariannormiepleb9470]

23:19 It is 4 months away :)

[@j340_official]

Emerald rapids in 6 months?

Now i want to make French press covfefe also.

[@samuelhartmann1824]

Steve from Gamers Nexus just had an aneurism seeing the tubes at the top of an AIO from a boutique builder.

[@vamwolf]

Yeah he not a engineer in the matter. Not all pumps are in CPU blocks

[@DMSparky]

@@vamwolf I’m almost certain Falcon has built way more systems than Steve. Wendell suggested they worked with Silverstone (who they have had a long relationship with) to develop the cooler so pretty sure it’s total fine.

[@concinnus]

The pump is clearly in the rad, it's fine.

[@gnif]

Can it run Crysis?

[@SquintyGears]

1.5kW on a single socket is soo absurd

[@theglowcloud2215]

Falcon Northwest still exists?

[@Shadowauratechno]

So exciting to see new HEDT offerings! I've been using AMD/threadripper for a while now but this might be my next upgrade

[@nadtz]

If you aren't in a rush new Threadripper will probably be out next year, might be worth waiting.

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@nadtz I'll go with Intel, however small this message will be to AMD, I'm not confident in them.

[@cosmicusstardust3300]

@@nadtz AMD's been getting too complacent with Threadripper Pro.... Its time to make AMD sweat going to intel with their better offering now forcing AMD to innovate again. Brand loyalty is dumb.

[@nadtz]

@@owlmostdead9492 Your potential loss I suppose.

[@nadtz]

@@cosmicusstardust3300 Considering new TR isn't out yet how can you call intel's offering better? You kinda just fanboi'd for Intel which you yourself say is dumb.

[@scarletspidernz]

But can it Run Crysis? Cpu only 😁

[@chrisbullock6477]

Looking nice and Health now day Wendell, good for you, keep it up.

[@terrycook2733]

Im wating to bet linus wants one

[@marsovac]

20 A power cord? But where do you plug it? In my living room there is no such thing. The breakers are less.

[@eDoc2020]

It's probably a regular 15 amp US plug on the other end. It's not a great idea to run over 10 amps on a regular IEC inlet.