Falcons select Penix Jr. in draft surprise, expectations for Caleb, McCarthy & Nix | NFL | THE HERD

Former Cardinals GM Steve Keim joins Colin Cowherd to discuss night 1 of the NFL Draft. Keim weighs in on the Atlanta Falcons selecting Michael Penix Jr. in draft surprise, expectations for J.J. McCarthy and Bo Nix and Caleb Williams in Chicago.
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Falcons select Penix in draft surprise, expectations for Caleb, McCarthy and Nix | NFL | THE HERD
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[@TheHerdOnFS1]

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[@setpiecesolution]

no

[@osamamybestfriend911]

Love when Colin brings on thanos

[@zsefton]

*Grimace

[@tommyploski1086]

Arizona Cardinals fan here. Whatever Steve Keim says, always assume and/or do the opposite. If you want your team to be on a never ending loop of mediocrity and wasted draft capital then Keim is your guy…

[@DJBumblebee85]

So true Tommy to ask this guy about draft picks and potentials is so absurd and funny. Thank God Michael Bidwill got away from him and we now have real dawg in Monti who cooks like a 3* Michelin chef

[@ShinobiDrip999]

​@@DJBumblebee85 Monti was flipping burgers with this draft lol

[@iamcedricpowell8051]

Yeah he seems like a cool guy. And I hope the guy the best. But just looked up his tenure with the Cards. And those years were not good. Did better after Kyler Murray. Although those teams fell off at the end of the year and were hit by injuries.

[@josh5218]

I agree Keim shouldn't even be talking football anymore.

[@logitech12345678910]

If the Falcons are so concerned about Cousins getting injured then they shouldn't have signed him and paid him 100 million.

[@PeterDahu]

The obvious seems lost on Colin.

[@-Thunder]

Right. The Penix pick isn't the problem. Signing Cousins for a fortune was the problem.

[@trell019]

I think they seen something they didn't like

[@PeterDahu]

@@trell019 Not good to see that after paying him

[@jonathanwhiting7453]

Lol good luck 😂

[@JoeMama69127]

Keim sounds like he’s interviewing for a job 😂

[@-Thunder]

He is. As a talker. He's not going to be a GM anytime soon.

[@robertobojorquez7690]

Ever Cardinals fan hopes another team hires him. It would be one less leat you have to worry about.

[@jonathanwhiting7453]

He's bunk

[@jonathanwhiting7453]

Lol

[@jonathanwhiting7453]

His knees are amazing

[@staubach1979rt]

Cardinals’ GM. Hahahahahaha! What a great guest to have. “Expert” for sure.

[@kylermcnaught3274]

Former* Cardinals gm lol

[@SSCElite]

keim was a relatively good drafter

[@elnopalero4691]

An nfl GM of ten years is a joke 🤔 know it all are annoying and cringe like you

[@ThomasRobinson-ms3id]

@@SSCElitenot at all

[@kelvingavin9519]

​@@SSCElite Josh Rosen?

[@pac-man2907]

Steve Keim’s decision-making is definitely one to trust. Built championship teams 😅 and it took a DUI to get suspended, fined and ultimately fired. Few execs have such a resume

[@lordtryforce]

Rats know how to flee a sinking ship. Called Bidwill about DUI so Cards suspend him before NFL, yes he was fined, and stepped down for Health reasons before he gets fired.

[@MrMikesmith20]

It's not the pick. It's the fact they paid Kirk...coming off an injury.

[@TheMCJ2011]

Where were you a month ago?

[@burn8175]

Stop pocket watching that man and go get 100 mill

[@JH-nf5xc]

Really not the best guy to get draft pick reviews from lol

[@IvanVikktor715]

“I love the pick” says the guy who drafted back to back unsuccessful quarterbacks and lost his job. Great.

[@user-ox8ud9ys9m]

😅

[@kacornish1]

Now, his trash opinion makes more sense.

[@codyb.3015]

And you can find failed/scouts/GMs who hate this pick. Kind of a pointless thing to say.

[@jzamo1990]

FOUND THE JJ MCCARTHY GLAZER

[@njyankeesfan]

Kyler is unsuccessful? Since when?

[@sahranisworld]

Nick Wright said it best with the Penix to Falcons pick "they value not being awful more than a chance of being great"

[@user-ox8ud9ys9m]

Experts are a dime a dozen

[@blazinpyromaniac]

So according to Keim, all of these QBs are good lmao

[@thekingofpingas]

There’s things he likes about all of them, but he clearly stated loves Penix.

[@swishdipper4362]

Ask him which one of these qbs are better than Josh Rosen

[@moshegoldbergTheKing]

At least four of these QBs will be busts. High chance for all six first round QBs to fail. The list of 1st and early 2nd round QBs to wash out, just over the last ten years, is quiet long. And everything said about class today was said about the 2021 class that draft night. And will be said about next years QB class. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[@aaronyang1305]

Why are they picked in the first round if they’re not good😂

[@j4yto]

@@thekingofpingas and that's why he got fired and is notorious for being one of the worst drafting GM's in recent memory

[@lewgoogle5530]

"35 year old quarterback coming off an Achilles". So why did they pay him $90M guaranteed?

[@brettrobertson2538]

colin having Keim as a GM expert is like having Mayock on. what a freakin joke.

[@charlescoryell4239]

He’s the most successful GM in Cardinals history. Cry about it

[@StrUpSavage]

Dumb take this guy built a team that was a game away from going to the superbowl and had sustained success for a few really good years that’s a lot more than most GM’s can say

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

7:36..Those four players were Zack Martin C.J. Mosley Calvin Pryor Ja' Wuan James

[@shaayaellis1436]

NFL Draft 2014...with Zack Martin at 16

[@kacornish1]

Can't believe Cowherd found some idiot to agree with him on the Penix pick.

[@codypieplow6120]

Only idiots are the ones hating behind their screen when Penix hasn’t played an nfl snap acting like they’ve been hired to be an nfl GM before.

[@sbarron2000]

@@codypieplow6120Penix hasn’t played a down in the NFL. And the Falcons plan is that he won’t play for at least two more seasons. I think it’s fair to question the value of that 1st round pick.

[@burn8175]

These fools really slow. They act like that 100 mill came out their paychecks. Why not get a backup? So when Kirk goes down falcons back in the same position they’ve been in. Good defense, with no QB.

[@steffenworldcitizensurf5926]

@@sbarron2000. Penix Jr turns 24 this week. McCarthy turned 21 recently.

[@MegaXFACTOR11]

The falcons head coach contradicted himself in the press conference justifying the selection. He said they expect to not draft that high again in the near future. Hence the Penix pick. Well, in order to not be in that position, you draft guys who improve your team for 2024. This pick doesn’t accomplish that at all.

[@joekabooki]

Colin brought in a guy who was gonna agree with all his leading questions.

[@user-yy8kx4ce3p]

The take makes sense since its coming from the guy who paid injury prone Sam Bradford and Mike Glennon to back him up, then proceeded to MOVE UP to draft Josh Rosen in the same offseason

[@wh5027]

Damn😂 I completely forgot they actually moved UP to draft Rosen.

[@sugarbear1225]

Great interview💯

[@WoodyRYW]

Oh yeah let me trust the film evaluation of the dude that drafted Josh Rosen 😭😭

[@xperiencelife3492]

That uncle Colin is hilarious 😂 Never heard that till after Shannon sharpe popularity took off lol

[@ryanmcdonald2157]

Colin just casually ignoring the fact that Kirk was paid $100M guarantee. Nobody is saying Penix was a bad pick due to talent, it’s the fact that they just paid Kirk so much.

[@patrickleverenz3051]

Same guy who drafted Josh Rosen... 😅

[@Gonzocity11]

And I quote “and the rest is history”

[@GaryTurbo]

Falcons got a Penix

[@OHANA-BEACH-SUITES]

So happy for PENIX! Future is bright!!!

[@shammy6648]

There obviously nothing wrong with having a good quarterback room Colin. It's the fact that's Penix is 24 years old. Are they going to have him sit for 4 years behind Kirk? That doesn't make sense when he will be 28 by then. Oh have Kirk play 2 years then trade him? The point of drafting a young quarterback is the salary, and build up around him. If you trade Kirk you will have a 40 million dollar cap hit negating any benefits of starting Penix. This move was idiotic and that might be an understatement.

[@johnwilson3587]

They could’ve drafted Penix and not signed Kirk, he was going to be there at 8 regardless. That’s what makes the pick bad. He doesn’t need to sit, he’s ready now

[@RoyalHabsburg]

The pick is fine if you don’t have $100 mill guaranteed. Whoever signed the deal should not have done so if they wanted Penix

[@poplar21]

Good pick . Wrong situation.

[@pfunk1992]

Who

[@wolfmantrucker1541]

Great audio

[@wh5027]

As a Skins fan, I am thrilled that the Bears completely bought into the Caleb Williams hype. Daniels will be the best QB in this class. I would have taken him #1 without a thought.

[@LowerTheBoom]

WOW Barry Sanderson actually came to the NFL Draft I just saw him on TV!!!! 😲

[@MGAF688]

Yeah, he was there with Jared Goffman and Aiden Hutchmanson.

[@burn8175]

THANK YOU. I swear Colin is the ONLY person in the media with commen sense. These people are legit idiots and really hate the falcons. Why build up a narrative they know is a good pick to cause drama?

[@jaylenhall7318]

Can we stop calling worthy a track guy, he’s a football player who ran track

[@scottrowlandrowland1098]

Colin is a casual when it comes to scouting, he just steals his guests takes. Worthy runs a full route tree who gets good seperation, who would be viewed as a good route runner if he didn't break the combine 40.

[@rocketanalyst]

he drops balls and is not the smoothest route runner, that’s why

[@TheGrimReaper13Seconds]

@@rocketanalyst he can run the full route tree. Had drop issues when he had a broken hand, go figure. Worthy was the 3rd most productive receiver in all of CFB the last 3 seasons. 2700 plus yards and 26 tuds. He will be a star with the Chiefs

[@TheGrimReaper13Seconds]

@@scottrowlandrowland1098 Yup. Worthy isn’t a one trick pony like Mecole Hardman. Worthy actually has legit college production to prove it

[@mikeb4062]

Wasting a 1st rd pick in anticipation of your huge QB contract not working out does not scream great move

[@shannonhugg9763]

Um didn't brady manage games and pretty sure he won a fee superbowls

[@NOAH2023]

As a Tampa Bay fan, I am happy for all the chaos that ATL just created for themselves. It shows they are dysfunctional from the owner down. I'm ok with that. And why are all the "sports pundants" expecting ATL to win the NFC South ? Really ?? I think Jason Licht might have something to say about that, certainly Todd Bowles and definitely Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans.

[@bleak83]

One thing i hate that sean payton and mickey loomis did was lose out on mahomes. They were going to pick him and they let andy reid jump ahead by one pick

[@kingjayburner]

14:32 Can’t believe this is my life rn

[@Gamma_Labs]

So then why pay kirk? If you dont trust him coming off an acl?

[@christopherbailey3581]

Why sign kirk anyway if he such an injury risk

[@90sTV]

Audio guy, turn master fader up. Too low.

[@moony9337]

Falcons are going to prove a lot of ppl wrong.

[@nunyabizness6662]

They gonna prove a ton of people right.

[@jpadilla5484]

Drafting a a good QB is never a bad choice. Drake Maye at 3 is an egregious mistake in my eyes.

[@Jcabby31]

back up Qbs learn so much. It was worth it

[@keanuwick8485]

Colins hate on JJ makes me laugh

[@K1forMVP]

Arizona has improved immensely since this dude left so take what he says with a grain of salt. Kyler Murray is the only great pick he made

[@TheBlackSands]

Bo nix and michael penix jr are nfl ready to play right now 💯👍

[@MGAF688]

Penix will sit until 2028.

[@Gary-pc6xo]

No they are not... Bo picks lol. We seen penix was great in the pacdefenceless but as soon as he played a real defense in championship, terrible missing wide open receivers. lol but whatever you got to tell yourself.

[@stefansinghanath1942]

Time will tell who are going to turn out greater.

[@dogbadger]

Yeah love the pick I get it - but the question is why bring in Kirk in the first place and pay him all that cash when you get a Tyrod Taylor/Minshew type to hold the fort while you get Penix ready? Unless the Falcons were thinking lets get Cousins signed, paid and convince him we are all in, just in case we cant get Penix. This defeats the object of winning while your new talented QB is on a rookie contract.

[@jqualls7901]

2:08 - 2:13 MEDIA MADE LEFRAUD‼️🤯🎯💯💯

[@djl6325]

I'm glad to hear no sour grapes from Keim, I agree, the Cards aced round 1. :)

[@Waxson77]

If you’re worried about a 35-year-old quarterback coming off an Achilles why did you sign him?

[@knox8113]

Keim drafted Zaven Collins, Josh Rosen and Isaiah Simmons with the 8th, 10th and 16th picks. All busts.

[@The_Mad_King]

Putting Penix behind Cousins for a year will be the best thing to happen to the kid. All the talking heads had no idea what was coming when Mahomes had to sit behind Smith. If any quarterback will be a flop it will be one thrown directly to the wolves

[@jamesbokelman9311]

Kyler has the "IT" factor. LOL

[@rocketanalyst]

Why is this guy even interviewed? So every pick is great, everyone landed in the right spot, everyone will be successful, etc. etc. ..: of all people, he should know the track record of busts in the draft

[@Dragonpie0317]

So glad he's not our gm anymore or we'd have Penix instead of future hof MHJ rn

[@raypromotions2147]

Steve Keim likes to drink so it doesn’t surprise me on his crazy takes…

[@Freddy-mp3gk]

I think he was talking bout Jayden Daniels as far as who beat Herbert.

[@tjtidwell1974]

I think we know why Keim is unemployed.

[@lasanalo2865]

The Falcons could’ve got Justin Fields for way LESS; but you know, the falcons are a backup qb away from the sb🤦🏾‍♂️🤣😭

[@JustinClarkball]

Justin Fields isn’t actually that good though Penix will be cheaper and has great potential!

[@lasanalo2865]

@@JustinClarkballLmao I’m guessing you didn’t watch the games 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣

[@lasanalo2865]

@@JustinClarkballPenix age and injury history will be a ticking time bomb

[@codyb.3015]

@@lasanalo2865 Even if Penix is a bust, we don't know yet. Every team in the NFL looked at Fields and determined he wasn't worth a 4th round pick, but multiple teams thought Penix was worth a first rounder. If you think you're smarter than literally every other team in the league, then maybe you have an ego problem.

[@DeosPraetorian]

​ Neither did you@@lasanalo2865

[@dronepocket325]

If Cousins being 35 and coming off of an injury was a real problem, they wouldn’t have paid him so much. Nice try though

[@johneichsteadt4432]

How is it that with this much time since the combine, so many of these "analysts" haven't watched tape on Worthy? As soon as they say "speed guy" I know they never even watched a cut-up on KZbin.

[@Lutherson1962]

‘I can’t forecast injuries’ … after mentioning Cousin’s injury probability

[@tjtidwell1974]

What you think of Josh Rosen Steve?

[@jayp4114]

There is a reason Steve Keim isn't a GM any longer. His QB analysis, is no better than a guy on a Barstool.

[@PeterDahu]

I think Penix is the best QB in draft. With that said, I think the Falcons didn't need him and should have drafted defense or WR.

[@christopherhallmon8595]

Cousins better show up to camp ready to compete! Penix will be gunning for the job! Cousins is old and returning from injury and has never lead any team to greater things! They acquired him needing a qb to fill a void! After the draft pick, all bets are off! The organization is not obligated to tell Cousins anything and discussions regarding “business “ money is not our concern! Cousins might be the highest paid backup in the league carrying a clip board!!!! You under estimate the jewel that is the player!!!!

[@JG-sl6sl]

JJ MC will be the best Qb of the draft then Bo nix . PEnix will also be a pro bowler. The one already in Lowes comm will Bust

[@AndyHip]

lol Steve Keim also drafted Josh Rosen…so I don’t really trust his evaluation of QBs. Kyler was a consensus top draft pick, not going to give him credit for Kyler

[@andrewsimckes5748]

You should take Steve Keim out for drink after he honestly told you about his feelings about Cousins but do not let him drive home.

[@Neverhadachance05]

After the draft all analysts think every 1st rounder is destined for greatness when in reality 50-60% will be bust

[@rdogg222]

Colin casually throwing in that he was hanging out with his new bf, Kyler Murray, and that he once physically entered a draft room.

[@Folds2008]

Loved the pick? Is that why it says former GM?

[@jameskresl]

Why the f did you sign a 35 year old QB coming off an achilles injury to that type of contract?

[@pfunk1992]

This guy is good

[@Master_of_sum]

If everything you said is true of Penix… why not just take him and have him start? And get the benefit of the rookie deal? Now you’re paying a combined 55 Mil for two guys and will never get benefit of that rookie deal

[@MrCaleb.]

If Penix is this good already and ready to contribute then signing Kirk Cousins was redundant. Either the Falcons are going to have a guy making 100M guaranteed sitting on the bench or they are going to be wasting valuable cheap years of a rookie scale QB contract for a guy that Colin is claiming to be pro ready. I mean it makes no sense.

[@leevancleef358]

If ATL wanted a Stop Gap QB - then Minshew signed for 2 yrs / $25m and last year Baker Mayfield played for $4m!! Flacco out there...others...MUCH cheaper stop gap qb options...truth is ATL either had $$ to burn and Did Not Care...or decided on Penix as a very late/last minute type decision and said "F" it lets do it anyway

[@joshuaguthrie9750]

And that’s why he’s the longer a GM

[@alexcolbert4395]

RG3-Kirk….Kirk-MP9

[@only1teezy]

Man. I don't care how many people try to dice this. I will never believe that having kirk and Penix is a smart move. Keep kirk and pick bpa or use money to get more players and get Penix. Penix going there wouldn't be as egregious if they did the latter

[@miami444]

The draft only showed us that the falcons liked penix better. Absolutely doesn't tell us what the league thought as a whole. That was such a stupid thing for Colin to say.

[@gunmonkey6545]

I’ll take a system QB that wins over a great deep ball thrower every day of the week. Brady was and some still call him a system QB or a game manager. With 9 rings I will take that over Aaron’s skill set with one ring.

[@bryanhallman8183]

Gayleb Williams will struggle mightily in the Windy City...

[@Laotzu819]

How do you know you can't teach a QB to throw a better deep ball? Your a talking head, not a QB coach. You've been banging on Tua for a while. He was the #2 pick, starting for the Dolphins and he will be better this year than last year, which was pretty good.

[@natureredux1957]

Why are people scratching their Head when your starting QB will be 36 when the Season starts. All the Win Now Junk was never going to happen because that means Super bowl or Bust which Cousins will never do. Also this nonsense about Penxi age is even far more bizarre. Of all the positions these Coaches have the most problem replacing, injuring QBs. The 3rd year Cap Hit for releasing Cousin would only be 12MIL. All the folks now crying were the same folks saying how Cousins was a Bust in the Playoffs. No way no How does any Team with any sense goes into a season without a decent backup. Most teams have horrible backups. Folks are way overblowing the Cousin QB contract numbers. DAK wants 60MIL per year. These QB numbers will only keep going sky-high.

[@Guanajuato_gus]

Get off the Velus Jones criticism. Poles got two starters on defense Stevenson/Gordon before that 3rd round pick. 😂

[@moshegoldbergTheKing]

Comically bad draft by the Falcons. The Panthers just might not be the worst trainwreck in the NFC South

[@bubsmeister]

Nobody doubts his talent....Falcons could've grabed Hunter, or other D for needs instead of Kirk

[@btspyglass4077]

Falcons just dumped $100m with their 5 year window of having a cheap payrollwindow And the rookie won't play until he is 30 Say what you will this was stupid team building

[@joshuahodge8804]

The falcons are one of the worst run teams in the NFL, the pick made no sense.

[@TheMCJ2011]

The pick made perfect sense. Cousins contract is what makes no sense. Falcons are a joke for that very reason and I said this a months ago.

[@harrisonwarner6437]

The pick of Penix at 8 isn't the issue, it is the 100 million guarantee with no trade clause to Kirk Cousins. That is just roster malpractice, the worst, absolutely worst, no benefits of having a young quarterback, and if you cut Kirk in ear 3 that's still 25 million loss. Lastly why would you want to season a 24 year old, this isn't 20,21,22 that need "development" ok. The 6th year at Washington was the same as riding the pine for 1 year at the NFL and probably much better. ATLANTA 100% deserves Roasting to a 3rd degree. Anything less then Super Bowl by either quarterback will be irredeemable

[@boonewells215]

So why sign Kirk if your scared about his health lol

[@TTURaider_rED]

Yes, he is coming off an injury, but if you're hesitant about his health, why did you pay him that amount of money?? And, if we're being honest, Pennix wasn't "their" guy as he never even visited the falcons. They brought in 30 other players. I'm a Raiders fan, so I'm bitter cuz Pennix should've fallen to 13. 😂😂😂

[@KingofeverythingChicagoBears]

Colin, Poles been cooking in Chicago since he got here Velus Jones was a 3rd rounder and Claypool was a crybaby not motivated to be great. 👑King Poles We Trust in Chicago