FALL OUT BOY - MANIA | ALBUM REVIEW

[@artvjon]

The opening joke is in reference to how Pete always writes these super long, over the top faux deep sounding explanations when they release new music these days. For context: instagram.com/p/BTZSMdYgfI-/

[@neros12346]

The end of the link is the twenty one pilots logo lol

[@Xaychedelic]

"Just because you're a fan of someone, you don't have to love everything that they do." Me: *"SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!"*

[@Megatron-xs2qe]

Xayide M this album gets a 2/10 🤢.

[@patcarle663]

Unpopular opinion I don’t like pretty odd

[@Eantonio245]

Pat Carle same

[@artificialgummies7416]

Unpopular opinion, I love FOB and PatD and most of their material but hate MCR

[@LisaKokx]

Lmao why would anyone think that though

[@iusedtowrite6667]

To sum it up in one sentence - 'It was rushed'. Some of the songs were good. Some were horrible. Overall it felt rushed and unpolished. Its like they threw stuff on the wall, some sticked some didn't. Overall you review was very fair and well done.

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

I think with time we'll look a lot kinder upon Mania, hell I already do, Hold Me Tight Or Don't, Wilson, Church, Bishops Knife Trick with the benefit of time have grown to be some of my favorite songs they've ever done I see what they were trying to do, I just think if we had another 1-2 months before release Mania could have been something great

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

Also responding to John in the video when he said he couldn't see most of the songs as hits where I am in England when Bishops Knife Trick was released as a single you couldn't escape hearing it, it was massive particularly in my corner of England

[@tylerbennett1021]

As a Fall Out Boy fan (im about to get roasted) I agreed with your statement about how they released 5 tracks for a 10 song album!!! Wilson was actually the one they played live, so its 5 not 6, but they only should've released 3 songs. I'm a fan of this album, although I can agree Champion and Young and Menace are dark spots. Thanks for taking time to review this!

[@TH1515FAK3]

Ballandbiscuit666 Same.

[@GrantVanderKlipp]

i’m glad i’m not the only one who puts febreze on my toilet

[@kylehegedus5498]

Grant VanderKlipp 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jacobmacdonagh4070]

Love the color co-ordination, on point

[@gabrielaliviervenegas2854]

You know it's gonna be a good ass review when there's a skit at the beginning

[@robinaah1176]

very true.

[@InfinityOnHannah]

Can't wait for the fans to get triggered even though this is such a well thought out, very detailed, and FAIR review.

[@JoJo-lo7nl]

Hey hannah👋

[@originproductions6120]

Infinity on Hannah I've yet to see one comment like that though, everyone keeps on talking about people being triggered, but no one is

[@InfinityOnHannah]

because they were proved wrong since jon gave a great review and they have nothing to complain about

[@nicname3147]

I AM A DIE-HARD FOB FAN AND I AGREE WITH JON. AS YOU STATED HE GAVE A FAIR REVIEW. NOTHING MOEE, NOTHING LESS. TO BE HONEST FANS GETTING TRIGGERED OVER THIS CRAP IS BOTH CRING AND DEPRESSING.

[@audrat6066]

Nah I'm a super hard core fan. Have tons of mania merch and love mania. But knew his review was gonna be honest and that he didn't like the album. But I watched it anyway because Jon is always respectful but honest.

[@sofiafelino2974]

At least we have Waterparks releasing a new album in a week to redeem both pop punk and the color purple

[@xpoppy8745]

My thoughts exactly!

[@santiagocordova357]

they dropped a single today. anyway Waterparks aren't punk, they said that. and also, the new album is nothing like double dare.

[@ldekker97]

Yes! I'm officially 100% excited for it. I was a bit scared because usually when bands go in a poppier direction, I tend to fall out of love with them, but after hearing Not Warriors, I am convinced they will be able to pull of their new sound (which isn't punk btw) very well.

[@bunnyvesper6824]

Santiago Cordova Pop punk, not punk

[@moronicbehavior4614]

They arn't pop punk. They are 100% POP rock.

[@terciosonic]

Fall Out Boy is the Emo version of Maroon 5

[@Ohaigh]

Fall Out Boy is far from emo

[@jules917]

. What would you consider emo? I’m genuinely curious.

[@Ohaigh]

Jules Title Fight, Say Anything, Panuccis Pizza, Basement.. to name a few.. I can name some more if you want

[@dianatitax12]

they stopped being emo a loooong time ago lol

[@pizzzaeater1425]

DAMN that's a low blow

[@jabuticabamoments]

StOp HaTiNg On FaLl OuT bOy AnD dElEtE yOuR cHanNel!!1!1!1!!1

[@ldekker97]

Joshua Lutchman The on and off caps and the !!1!1!1! are a pretty clear indication the original commenter was parodying certain fob fans.

[@jabuticabamoments]

Joshua Lutchman This was sarcasm lol

[@jamyaclark998]

Hints the sarcasm

[@karastorey2785]

I personally love the randomness if the album but i ccompletely respect your opinion

[@boyishmistakes]

Its sad to think Wilson is gonna be one of the best songs here, its a nice song, slightly cringy, very average, and that says a LOT.

[@jennygeo6373]

Adrian Johnson I completely agree. I'm disappointed to say I liked one song on the entire album and the song isn't even unbelievablely catchy or remarkable. It's mediocre.

[@day6stan]

I think Bishops knife trick is pretty good but maybe the “sentimental” sound isn’t your thing

[@fryingpancreas]

Personally, I actually enjoyed quite a bit of the album, except on tracks like Sunshine Riptide and Young and Menace, the experimentation didn't sound too bad to me. Patrick shines vocally on this record, I really like the smooth quality of his voice on songs like Heaven's Gate and Hold Me Tight, I've been missing that soulfulness from him. However, I do agree that lyrically this album is very awkward and sonically it's not very cohesive, but at least for me I do like a lot of the songs individually. I'd give it a solid 3-3.5, but I really enjoyed your review Jon, it gave me another perspective on the album. Hopefully the fandom doesn't crucify you too much, sigh.

[@anthef2340]

Although I really like the album, I'm glad you still did an honest review seeing as how there are so many fob fans that hated youre opinion and dont realize people have opinions and you can still love a band even if you dont love everything they do, thank you for this

[@kylehegedus5498]

“The only opinion that really matters is your own.”

[@anthef2340]

Kyle Hegedus Exactly

[@akiraxia9997]

Wait, how are people listening to this album before it's been released?

[@quentinchilds4007]

Akiraxia99 The album was leaked somewhere on the Internet.

[@miguelbastidas3364]

Akiraxia999 some pre-ordered physical copies arrived early, so it was leaked.

[@carsonmuscutt9568]

STOP BEING MEAN TO FALL OUT BOY HATER!!!! DON'T CALL YOURSELF A FAN IF YOU DON'T LIKE EVERY SINGLE SONG IN THEIR DISCOGRAPHY!!!! I hope you know i'm kidding. Fuck the FOB fandom!! Great review dude!

[@lynbroski8193]

"Yes Pete Wentz I got it"

[@sandykempen4498]

Carolyn Najera that part was so funny to me lmao

[@ellierohleder5198]

interesting, I really enjoyed this album personally? The lack of direction is something that kinda makes the album to me, I feel it fits the topic and fulfills its purpose that way. And after listening twice, Heaven's Gate might be my favourite so unfortunately I really struggle to see eye-to-eye with you on that. I appreciate what they're doing here and it might even be my second favourite fob album after ioh, I really really like the lyrics even if I can admit that they are repetitive but I kinda don't mind that. As for track listing: iTunes messed it up, so the digital listing will be changed in time. I see where you're coming from a lot of the time but oddly, I feel differently about the points you make myself, however, I do appreciate this review. Gotta be honest, I've not watched your stuff in a while because it just strayed too far from the kind of content I was looking for and after seeing your first tweet, I was afraid this review would frustrate me more than anything, but I do think this is a decent video, I feel like you actually put a lot of thought into it, too, and whilst I don't necessarily agree with you, I can appreciate what you're saying this time, where recently I've often struggled to empathize in any way.

[@artvjon]

So this review is for the “physical edition” of the tracklisting. It makes no sense that they have 2 different versions for digital and physical, but whatever. Thanks for watching.

[@anotherweekschtuff]

ARTV I was about to ask because mine still has Young and Menace as track 1

[@tiffanymelton3251]

ARTV they didn't mean to do it like that ,iTunes switched it or something, Pete tweeted that the track listing on the digital got messed up

[@artvjon]

Here is Pete confirming this on Twitter twitter.com/petewentz/status/952336080451203072

[@murdoxxed]

I think the physical listing is better tbh

[@midwestmadness1001]

8th album

[@fullmetalval6380]

I'll be honest. I grew out of FOB. It was a surprise to me when I saw they uploaded a new music video and it was for Young and Menace. I cried after listening to it because I was wondering what happened to the band that got me into rock. I don't know if I'll listen to the whole album, but from the songs I have heard, I enjoy Wilson and Last of the Real Ones. Wilson made me think of AB/AP and personally I thought it could have been a B-side song to it, idk. Last of the Real Ones was catchy. Again, idk if I'll listen to the whole album. But yeah their songs have kinda been going downhill, for me.

[@spark300c]

well because how small pop chart are. there little room for diversity so real up beat rock bend pushed back. another problem you not suppose to grow out of it. they now have to reach new group fans who do not have know what real rock sound like.

[@fullmetalval6380]

spark300c It's trends though. Right now trap/rap is dominating stuff, of course it's gonna be hard for rock. Look at the 2000s and earlier years, it was a good mix. Also, you can't just "not grow out of it". That's just not possible. Fans will eventually find them. Could be because the first thing they hear is their old sound, or because of their newer sound. Eventually the people who heard the new sound are gonna wanna check out their discography.

[@fullmetalval6380]

Gaming Grid Yeah I decided to listen to the songs I didn't on the album. I kinda fall in line with Jon and Hannah. Overall it's just disappointing. I'm gonna go listen to Take This To Your Grave now...

[@physiologicalspastic9779]

Leo yep they shifted to pop type music

[@whitneylyles3764]

I agree completely. And I did the same exact thing when I heard young and menace for the first time...:(

[@ailishferrick1444]

I totally respect your opinion man and I agree for the most part too, there are some great songs on here but it really takes away from the album as a whole because there’s no flow what so ever. And this is coming from a 15 year old Fall Out Boy “fangirl”. In fact I think I’d rate it similarly

[@skeletonwithskin]

I’ve been waiting for this since the album was announced

[@faciuo]

I think this is a very fair review, as a long time fall out boy fan myself I do agree with many of your points made. Imo I think they are trying to find a new sound and figure out where they want to go next because they are getting older and this is like a new chapter and I feel like on that journey there is bound to be a hiccup or bump in the road until they figure it out. And i think in a way they put out this record as sort of an experiment to try out a multitude of things almost playing a trust exercise with their fanbase. I think this was a solid effort and there are some songs I do enjoy and I look forward to where they land next.

[@theThomas1a]

Hey, how’s that book going? You finished it yet?

[@artvjon]

It’s coming. Get your pre-order in now.

[@theThomas1a]

ARTV fantastic!

[@thema1998]

ARTV What is your book called?

[@fullmetalval6380]

Before Jon talked about the joke in the comments, I thought it was symbolism of how they were dropping M A N I A ;)

[@JamieMelling92]

This might be the first Fall Out Boy album that I don't buy. I'll listen to it when it's released but I wasn't impressed by the singles. I wish they'd go back to their 00s days but that will never happen. I hate it when rock bands go poppy and mainstream and they sound generic. Also, doing some research on Wikipedia, there is apparently 2 different tracklistings. One for the digital edition and one for the physical edition. That makes no sense to me!

[@Pitypalattyurfi]

I wouldn't say this record sounds generic though.

[@Flatcetera]

Prolly bc they can get more sales with different track listings, people might be inclined to buy it twice, watch this album get a deluxe and/or special edition, not even putting different vinyl presses in the mix here oof

[@CPmuddle27]

To me, Bishops Knife Trick, Church, and Heaven's Gate make it worth it

[@haileyreichart7317]

I’ll just never be able to get into this album. I can’t believe this is the same band that released Folie à Duex. I couldn’t agree with you more!

[@DamysAtelier]

Hailey Reichart deux*

[@artificialgummies7416]

A lot of stuff kinda reminded me of Folie. Heavens Gate and Bishops Knife Trick Sound very Folie, so I kinda like it. I’d say this was kinda of a hybrid of Folie and AB/AP

[@haileyreichart7317]

Jade's Arts wow I misspelled Deux because I quickly typed out a comment! Crazy!!

[@frozenandchosen]

Fall Out Boy ranked at some point perhaps? I think that would be a really cool way to contrast and express what you love and don't love about Fall out Boy in one video

[@ethano7358]

Jacob Boschert this is lady but in my opinion all of there other work is awesome

[@anonymousoilersfan]

I feel like its the kinda album where you don't want to listen to it in full, just a couple songs at a time

[@Pitypalattyurfi]

I'm pleasantly surprised by how laid back this review is, not what I expected after your first tweet. I agree with the main criticism about the record being all over the place, however as individual songs, some of them are pretty great. My favourites at the moment are Stay Frosty, Wilson and Y&M.

[@artvjon]

Twitter is always just my venting spot. I’ll always attempt to do a thorough review. If it needs to be super harsh, it will be, but this one called for more discussion rather than harshness.

[@krampusplague]

Chris How'd you listen to the tracks?

[@highonsuffering]

I agree with Chris. They're much better as individual tracks than as a single album

[@shaelynowens8591]

I liked the album but I really liked this review. It was fair and honest, thanks for this

[@ninja12380]

150% agree with everything you said it feels like they just threw shit at the wall and saw what stuck and while some songs were nice they are so subpar to the last 2 albums not to mention their older work

[@artificialgummies7416]

mv31 I personally loved this album MUCH better than the last two. Lots of songs reminded me of Folie. Will it compete to Cork, High, or Folie? DEFINITELY not.

[@thema1998]

mv31 150%!? That's way above 100%! You must really agree with Jon.

[@arcanemaster8722]

Jesus literally all the comments are about attacking FOB fans. Get a grip haha, not a single fan has attacked yet. Also, the live one they played was Wilson which was released as a single, so technically just 5

[@erin8439]

It's crazy how I ALWAYS agree with you on your reviews. When you mentioned all of my favorite songs on this album as being your own too, I was reminded why I'm subscribed. Stay Frosty is my favorite on the album as well. I was so relieved when I heard the rest of the album that none of the songs were young and menace level bad

[@ThatOneGuy7550]

Mixed feelings to this, Jon hits on most the points on this great, and fair review. But this album is a turning point, I think they are trying to embrace current trends within pop music, while I still think Pete Wentz is a good songwriter, this album doesn't have the same strength their past records had. Instead, it's taking a left field and like Jon said, "trying to embrace too many different sounds at once" (paraphrasing), FOB isn't washed up, but this album is giving me the impression, they have sold out, or at least, not as trying hard to give us better material, instead embracing pop trends, and radio-friendly "pop rock" sounds. I deeply encourage any FOB fans to Andy Hurley's hardcore band, SECT, with their new album, NO CURE FOR DEATH. His drumming is insane, and not wasted on this album. Props to Jon for a great, and again, FAIR review!

[@amaniwashortername8998]

This was honestly a very fair review. I liked it.

[@toniblack2855]

You made some really solid points and I respect your opinion but I really like the new album. I get that people don’t like it bc it’s so different from fobs usual stuff but I still really like it

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

Toni Black I like it more than I thought I would and a couple tracks that he disliked were favorites of mine, but it's a great review

[@highonsuffering]

I like the album, but I have to admit that it is all over the place and the lyrics are a bit messy.

[@apparycja]

Even though this album is a total mess and has some really bad songs, I can't help but enjoy all the songs somehow - some are nice background music let me tell ya.

[@luizgustavomariano6014]

Amazing review. You're spot on with the lyric repetition: it is the worse aspect of the album for me. Everyone talks about how they change their sound and everything, but up until now, even with those changes, the lyrics were always great. I grew up listening to all of those songs and these lyrics means so much to me even today. MANIA feels lazy, rushed and repetitive to say the least. I'm not sure if they're trying something with it or if it's lack of inspiration, but almost every song is an example of it. I'm also with you: my favorites are Wilson and Last of the Real Ones. Hold Me Tight or Don't is growing on me too.

[@Blackbeardf3b]

I agree. A lot of the songs have great choruses, but doesn't offer much more.

[@jeremybritanico6628]

Wilson and Bishops knife trick maybe their best song in this album lyrically

[@CaptainXinSpace]

Are you gonna review Entertainment by Waterparks? Hope for that is what's been getting me through these trying times.

[@marabirau1003]

Taylor Weaver HE BETTER DO

[@irondust71]

Like, HOLD ME TIGHT OR DON'T sounds really off-key, but even more it sounds flat! I mean, can we make a more generic song than this one? But I got to admit I liked the other singles, but yeah

[@eden-ski]

Ed Dur I AGREE

[@originproductions6120]

Ed Dur love your profile pic

[@stevenstrattonjr]

What exactly was off-key? What instrument was flat? Do you know what you're talking about?

[@jayben317]

Aahhhh excited for your review, keep up the good work for 2018.

[@youremindmeofthebabe7066]

i guess you can say fall out boy made an expensive mistake hehehe get it?...i'll leave

[@underscoreophelia]

That intro is probably one of the best things you've done!

[@bubbs9586]

This was my first fall out boy album I listened to, so it has a special place in my heart 🤣

[@StealthheartDraws]

You know, as much as a lot of us may hate it sometimes, you have to give it to him. Jon is a great reviewer because he gives his honest opinion and doesn’t care what anyone else says. Yes there are other people that do that, but he always tries to give an album a chance instead of completely dissing it. He explains why he doesn’t like it instead of just “This is horrible and if you like it you suck,” like a lot of people accuse him of.

[@danielpatternson6149]

Yeah. Not like Rocked.

[@luizgustavomariano6014]

Jon, honestly question: I've watched tons of interviews leading up to the MANIA release trying to get some context and one thing called my attention: when asked what was their favorite songs, some of FOB's members simply didn't know the final titles of the songs. I thought it was so weird. If I was releasing a CD in ten of fifteen days, I would know every lyric of it. Do you think this is something common or just shows how disconnected MANIA feels even with the whole postponing thing?

[@Stefan_Gerards]

that intro 😂😂👌 been waiting to see this review!

[@MeltySolid]

I kinda wish they would release what this album was going to be originally on its own, I just want to see what changed.

[@angrycreeper1057]

Solid Silver I would love to see that.

[@stephanierodriguez5498]

Honestly, I love Church.

[@anotherweekschtuff]

2.5 makes sense. Very fair review. I agree with all of your points except maybe the ones on Church because I personally really like this song. But seeing how you enjoyed half the album a 2.5 makes a lot of sense

[@JeffEllsworth]

it's sad you can't say anything negative about bands like Fall Out Boy ,Twenty One Pilots or MCR without Fangirls jumping down your throat! I was a fan of Fall Out Boy and MCR when most of these kids were in diapers!

[@artificialgummies7416]

JRLE Literally 99% Of comments that has been made on this thread has been people talking about triggered fans. Yeah, all these fandoms suck, but still. All these people who disagreed with this review’s opinion, including myself, have responded appropriately and respectfully.

[@JeffEllsworth]

you should see the comments i've gotten from crazy FOB fans by me just saying man I miss the old Fall Out Boy

[@brookenelsonmusic4448]

The fact that Pete ranked this album as their second best after infinity on high brings me pain. Also you saying "can you smell this shit" made me laugh harder than anything has in days

[@mnif001]

MANIA is the Revival of Fall Out Boy

[@alison2987]

Fred L. And that means?

[@arcanemaster8722]

Honestly, no. Revival was just flat out bad....like really bad. Nearly unlistenable bad. I don’t think anything can compete to how bad that is this year

[@nvthvxn9627]

Couldn’t agree more! Great Review Jon!

[@huntercrunch94]

I really can't get into this release... even the good songs don't really compare to the good songs off of their last one. Even though I like some of the stuff that came after it just fine, Folie was just such a good album in its entirety that I have trouble understanding why they didn't move forward after that album in its direction. I get they want to experiment, but it's causing them to not make good albums as a whole in my opinion. I do really love this band, but man, I don't understand what happened here on this album. If other people like it, that's totally fine. But there's not more than 2 or 3 I'm gonna keep off of it, to be honest. Side note: that hipstery spacing out of the album title continues to piss me off.

[@eden-ski]

huntercrunch why is this so relatable

[@sand_is_greaney]

Here we are the day before their first exciting album since 2008. So excited for it and the review!

[@theseth455]

What did you think of SMFS?

[@LisaKokx]

I was really interested in your opinion and I was actually surprised that it was more positive than I had expected. I'm still trying to wrap my head around this album, there are just so many things happening and so many positive and negative things about it.

[@milopond]

Now that the album has fully been released I can say that the points that were made in this review are fair and make sense, the lyric repetition is annoying at times and Church is highly unoriginal, but the album tries new things that imo really make the album special, it just has a few other nit picky things as well. Overall 3/5 maybe a 3.5

[@KoaAbyss]

This was one weird ass album and I still don't know how I feel about it. Great review :D

[@RichardBatchelorComposer]

wow, I half expected this comment board to be all kinds of toxic, but its not! its in mutual agreement, that this album sucks. Probably jinxed it now, I'm gonna go to bed now and wake up to 100 death threats on this comment.

[@eden-ski]

Richard Batchelor I agree. This album really sucks.

[@ali_mouse]

No kidding. I’ve always been a Fall Out Boy fan, but this album, to put it lightly, is disappointing.

[@highonsuffering]

It's definitely not one of their best tbh

[@57studios21]

Personally 3.5/5. I acknowledge the fact that FOB have done better but I found this album to be solid. Also Last Of The Real Ones is actually my favorite FOB song to date

[@this_is_diamond_rot]

I feel like I’m the only one who enjoyed this record more than AB/AP

[@brieblevins66]

I actually heard Hold Me Tight Or Don't on the radio so I'm pretty sure it'd gonna be crossing over a bit

[@invisibilly1946]

Here before the crazy fans

[@maxpalmer3212]

R.I.P. FOB (2003-2009)

[@booksmusicmovies8862]

I personally disagree but I respect your opinion and I see your points. I personally love M A N I A but you have clearly thought this out and I can see the issues you point out. That being said I’m gonna get out the popcorn and see kids who still play Minecraft flip the fuck out.

[@CPmuddle27]

Haven't listened to any of the non-singles, but honestly, judging by this review, I still have fairly high hopes. If I can find half of this album good, and like 3 songs that I love (Expensive Mistakes is already one, and judging by this review, Church and Bishop's Knife Trick could be the others), I'll be very satisfied. I just want the passionate, powerful Jet Pack Blue-esque songs

[@Minifigcreator97]

I was just attacked by the FOB fandom for posting on one of the singles and saying that FOB wasn't up to par on this release and it turned into the fandom combing through my liked videos to find ONE song that they said sucked. And then attacked my person and music preferences. So if i DID like this album. I wouldn't now. Cause fuck this fandom.

[@sarahspersonalacc1172]

Guy with a Guitar why let the fandom effect the music

[@sarahspersonalacc1172]

I’m a fan of twenty one pilot and they without a doubt have a “edgy” embarrassing toxic fanbase... fr real ignore them don’t let em ruin it for you

[@Minifigcreator97]

I will attempt to do that. But FOB and TOP is so toxic that it really puts a bad taste in my mouth when I listen to these bands

[@highonsuffering]

Advice from a younger fan : Don't ever get involved with the fandom/fanbase. Don't.

[@rutabaga6438]

Im a pretty hardcore fob fan, but I've gotta agree, mania is definitely not their best work. And I've liked literally everything they've made up until this point. I don't think I dislike this album as much as a lot of people do, but I don't listen to it a lot, and it doesn't have have that same kind of magic that fobs other albums made me feel. I don't like young and menace (oof I didn't spell that right oh well) but I really like Wilson, hold me tight or don't, stay frosty royal milk tea, bishops knife trick, and the last if the real ones. Everything else though, it's just kinda meh to me. I hope that fob will make better stuff in the future.

[@ixel631]

I love the album MANIA. And I really love this review. Seriously you made such great points.

[@charlizespillane4223]

thank you for this!! this is a fair and honest review and no matter what people are gonna get butthurt ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@andrewcamacho3364]

Maaaaannn.... This album ended up really growing on me. Not my favourite by any means, in fact, I'd still probably put it at the very bottom... but I don't know, I can't explain it. I keep coming back to it and enjoy it a bit more each time.

[@Flatcetera]

The febreze actually had me almost spitting my drink

[@coleslau2372]

I hate to say it but I think fall out boy is just done. They were great on every album before the hiatus but ever since Save Rock and Roll, the quality in music has declined in quality so much that I can’t stand to listen to anything other than Expensive Mistakes. They feel like an entirely new band now. If they weren’t popular back then, and were a brand new, upcoming band, there’s no way that anything released in the past few years would be successes. The only reason they find success now is because of the fans.

[@innuendoshakespeare]

coleslau sad. but true.

[@yes-wo7qn]

Church needs a guitar solo so badly imo

[@graceb1628]

Joe needs a solo

[@brianasanchez5869]

I definitely agree with the whole repetition of the lyrics. One of the best parts about Fall Out Boy is their lyrical content and I just feel that they should have been more creative. Pete is amazing at writing lyrics so I was a bit disappointed, but so far I like the album. Can't wait to hear it and full! And I love this review :)

[@p1nkapp139]

I actually really liked most of the songs on this album, so you guys can rip me from piece to piece if you like.

[@jerma953]

Please don't be another Maroon 5, Fall Out Boy!!!

[@jerma953]

welp

[@megmeg2784]

The entire album was just confusing. I enjoyed TLOTRO, Hold Me Tight Or Don't, and Stay Frosty, but Sunshine Riptide was strange and didn't fit, Young and Menace was a disgrace to music and Champion was repetitive and quite boring. I doubt I'll come back to over half of these songs, even though I am pleasantly surprised with how "good" the album was, since Y&M set the bar incredibly low.

[@OliveAmanita2682]

Young & Menace was pretty good (took a while to get used to, though), and M A N I A is easily my favourite Fall Out Boy album yet. I do agree Sunshine Riptide was a pretty lackluster. Still, great review though, even if I don't necessarily agree with it.

[@RebornLegacy]

@@OliveAmanita2682 lol, it's your favorite FOB album yet? Just out of curiosity, how long have you been listening to them?

[@OliveAmanita2682]

@@RebornLegacy since 2010. I didn't say its the best. That title probably goes to Folie a Deux or Cork Tree. Said my favourite. Just like how Black Parade is best MCR album but Danger Days is still my favourite.

[@error13_genderexpunged]

Patrick said he didn't expect this album to be played on the radio, and it's VERY expiremental, very similar to folie same being he is very proud of it. I personally love this album, but this is a thorough review and I respect your opinion

[@musicman6555]

Mania was an expensive mistake

[@DuffyLONER64]

Not gonna lie, after Hold Me Tight or Don't (I like the song BTW), I stopped looking at the album on Amazon Music, and when I saw the music video for Wilson (Expensive Mistakes), I honestly thought it was an ad for some stupid shit like that Champion Fidget Spinner they made, so I stayed clear of it. Only after watching this review (and looking in the description of this video) did I realize it's an actual song... Whoops, because the song is pretty dope. Other than the two singles I mentioned above, I don't really like the singles they released. Nonetheless, I'm still going to give the album to try (since I tend to like a lot of albums others hate, like Maroon 5's Red Pill Blues, Linkin Park's One More Light, and Julia Michaels' Nervous System), but I feel like I won't enjoy the album.

[@ghislainemaxwellofficial6083]

Panic at the disco and fall out boy got me into rock. Both of them switched to pop, and panic at the disco succeeded. I still listen to their music from time to time, because they did pop WELL. Fall out boy, however, just decided to make crappy generic EDM and pop-rock that does nothing to distinguish itself. It’s really sad, considering that fall out boy used to be so amazing.

[@alesismore7441]

I came here expecting a full on explosive review about how bad it is but I'll give you credit mate, its a good review! HOLD ME TIGHT OR DON'T, The Last Of The Real Ones & Bishop's Knife Trick are my Favourites.

[@callummacinnes860]

Anthony Alesiani not trying to be rude but can you explain why you like hold me tight because I thought it was the worst single from the album , the verses are good and it builds pretty well but I feel like the chorus really falls flat

[@alesismore7441]

Callum Macinnes You're all good mate. I guess its a song that would go 2 ways. I feel that its one of the better songs that mixed genres together well. Really catchy and very danceable.

[@jachelinecortes4830]

i used to feel the same, but the song grew on me. Every time i hear the chorus, i just want to sing along.

[@lindsey4970]

The video we are all waiting for has arrived

[@TheOgreMan]

My most anticipated review from you! I love your review. I'm excited to hear the last 5 songs still. I probably won't dislike them as much as you did, but i respect your opinion. And btw, Wilson (Expensive Mistakes) and Hold Me Tight Or Don't are my favorite songs as well

[@monsterblizzard3537]

Love how you wore a violet shirt. Great vid!

[@Yuh73]

As a Fall Out Boy fan I can respect your opinion and agree Mania was all over the place but I enjoyed the songs a lot I just felt like they were exploring and you have one of the most respectable video reviews of Mania I have seen.

[@purpleheadedhedgehog3821]

I think the last 3 singles are the best on the album but the first 2 disappointed me in a lot of ways but I still have the rest to listen to so maybe I'll like it I don't fucking know

[@hunterstiles9602]

Thoroughly enjoyed this review. I'm an absolute die hard fan of FOB, but the strongest post hiatus release was definitely Save Rock and Roll. Sunshine Riptide is actually a highlight for me BUT, I completely agree with the statement about the rap segment. My other issue with the rapping is that I can't understand a word that he's saying and I know it's a running joke that Patrick's pronunciation can be wobbly at best, but at this point in the game it's very frustrating when you can't understand what someone is saying. The Last of The Real Ones in my opinion, is the best song on this album. Clear direction, perfect use of timbre thay fits with the feeling of the lyrics. I'm not going to say that I love this album, I enjoy it but it definitely ranks lower than any other FOB album. People compared it to Folie but there's no comparison. Folie had direction, atmosphere, charisma. Mania unfortunately, feels like the tidbits from Pete's grocery list that Patrick's had to make into an album. The album isn't bad and art is subjective, I'm still proud of what they've created but I very interested to see what they pull out of the bag after this album.

[@JR-fb3dq]

Hunter Stiles I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I almost feel like with all this experimentation they might find something very very good for future albums, like some sort of balance. I think they might be able to find their balance and something to satisfy all of their fans. Personally, I like this album because I don't listen to it by itself and I also don't take it from a very serious stand point. I don't take this album as a serious work of art, which I think allows me to enjoy it a little more.

[@hunterstiles9602]

Marie20 Definitely! I wholeheartedly agree with you there. There is a lighter tone to this album and clearly it is something that the boys should be proud of. It's definitely an album that allows for a whole host of new fans to join in with.

[@taylorbalon6488]

for me, knowing what mania actually is and how it's associated with Bipolar disorder (which Pete Wentz actually struggles with to this day) helps me understand the craziness, extreme highs, and lows, and the general just being all over the place a lot better. Hope i dont sound like one of those wild 12 year olds everyone is talking about, but that's just what works for me and helps me appriciate and understand M A N I A as a whole. idk if that would help you or anyone else though, just a thought / suggestion i guess.

[@PandaSingz]

I personally feel like the chaotic nature of the album was sort of meant to be there, but I understand why it can be polarizing and frustrating for people. I definitely agree that Young and Menace should have stayed at the beginning, it felt like an opener as a song, not to mention it was the basic introduction to this album cycle as the first single. There is plenty on here that I disagree with but I'm not gonna go point by point. Thank you for the review.

[@comicbooksavage]

Not gonna lie, I do like this album

[@emopunktrash613]

WHERE DID YOU LISTEN TO IT

[@mychemicalrepublican8420]

I don't know for sure, but I really think this album was supposed to be weird and random. It would work with the name. "Mania" like your almost going insane and your mind is going all over the place. Just my thoughts though

[@Solidkhallid]

I kinda hope this album tanks so that they realize that pandering to the masses is no replacement for actual creativity, but as they say in "Folie au Deux": "They always bring up how you've changed" and "I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me".

[@CityxEscapistYT]

I gotta be honest, ever since I listened to the whole album, I’ve been addicted to this album and idk why.

[@musicmania8286]

Great review! Honest and fair. I was hoping since they delayed the album, it'd be better...as you said, it's a "no." I love how in your reviews you give really excellent detailed descriptions that explain your opinion well. Hope no one gets mad at you for this one, you are right on for this album.

[@sarah-zv3bv]

Great review!