Fallen foes, and how to finish them off

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A foe on the ground might not be able to get back up again, because of wounds to his legs, but he may still be a danger. How does one finish him off? With the right tools, it is easy enough, but with the wrong weapon in your hand, you may find it very difficult.
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Fallen foes, and how to finish them off
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@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 8 жыл бұрын
This is rubbish. Anyone who watches enough historical movies knows that you finish an enemy by standing over them, yelling and lifting your weapon up before swinging so that you give your enemy enough time to roll out the way or stab you in the guts.
@yunofun
@yunofun 8 жыл бұрын
+TheSm1thers But only if you are the villain. But then again if you are the hero then you are rarely standing over your foe but instead the one on your back preparing to move out of the way/stab him in the guts.
@TheSm1thers
@TheSm1thers 8 жыл бұрын
yu nofun Very true.
@Nasmr.
@Nasmr. 8 жыл бұрын
Mountain vs the viper vibes
@douglasdea637
@douglasdea637 5 жыл бұрын
Gods, I hate that trope. Particularly memorable in The Patriot.
@ry4nmaster
@ry4nmaster 5 жыл бұрын
Right? That's just common decency smh at rude people nowadays
@GeneralDowson
@GeneralDowson 8 жыл бұрын
So the most effective person on the battlefield is a mobile dwarf with a long weapon?
@Aegox
@Aegox 8 жыл бұрын
+The Business Cat Dwarfs for the win!
@AsTaFTheRealOne
@AsTaFTheRealOne 8 жыл бұрын
When you say it, it sounds hella fun concept for a character.
@Yeo123Zg
@Yeo123Zg 8 жыл бұрын
BFME2 Phalanx FTW
@cdgonepotatoes4219
@cdgonepotatoes4219 8 жыл бұрын
now we know that Celts were good only to scare romans away, since they were very tall
@9898Hawk
@9898Hawk 8 жыл бұрын
xD
@alfa0i0omega
@alfa0i0omega 9 жыл бұрын
But what if the guy on the ground has a shield and turns into a human hermit crab? And the possibility of many such creatures forming the infamous crawling phalanx!! No ankle is safe! The horror!!! :O
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 9 жыл бұрын
alfa0i0omega They need to learn to duck walk. "Master your ass!" In chivalry: mw, you can defeat this by overhead striking. :P
@Yourantsally
@Yourantsally 9 жыл бұрын
Usammity of course you got the yahtzee pro-pic
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 9 жыл бұрын
Yourantsally What do you mean 'of course'? Quit judging me shitlord, check your privilege.
@ohauss
@ohauss 9 жыл бұрын
alfa0i0omega You'd do what you'd do with other annoying crabs - step on it....stomp it.
@ragimundvonwallat8961
@ragimundvonwallat8961 9 жыл бұрын
alfa0i0omega crawling phalanx haha i keep that one ....flamked by my limpin' cavalry haha
@Bitemis
@Bitemis 9 жыл бұрын
"If there were two of me... that is to say, if I had a friend..." Story of my life, Lloyd
@TheMandanga
@TheMandanga 8 жыл бұрын
I'll keep this information in mind for next time.
@marianaflutur134
@marianaflutur134 7 жыл бұрын
lel
@despacitodaniel801
@despacitodaniel801 5 жыл бұрын
lol
@asusmctablet9180
@asusmctablet9180 5 жыл бұрын
What happened last time?
@Leto_0
@Leto_0 5 жыл бұрын
Hey you never know we could have an apocalypse tomorrow and then in 50 years or so we could be having medieval warfare all over again
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Sammedine
@Sammedine 9 жыл бұрын
The only way is to give a monologue, then slowly walk up to them, raising your sword into the air. Don't worry, no other soldiers can intervene, as that would violate the secret rules of pre-WWI battles.
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 9 жыл бұрын
I do actually think some dudes in individual sword duels (not armies) would kick a weapon away and then enter a monologue of some sort or after they have killed him, not all but some would have. there are tonnes of people who start going into a monologue after beating some dude half unconscious to the ground, you can see it in tonnes of fighting videos and sometimes in real life. It would probably be a lot more dramatic since it is someone's life though.
@jellevandenberge2494
@jellevandenberge2494 9 жыл бұрын
mistercococat peace Makes you wonder if movies actually adapted that from a real world phenomenon or that this is something that exists because movies engrained this in peoples brains.
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 9 жыл бұрын
mistercococat peace Isn't that usually the moment when the guy in the ground gets his second wind and pwns the monologer while he's not looking? At least that's what James Bond and Jason Statham do in that situation.
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 9 жыл бұрын
Monologues make you look cooler anyway, what better way to finish off a duel with your enemy on the ground shaking in fear as his arms are complete broken and you use him/her as a footrest while you make their last few moments humiliating and insulting as you plunge a sharp object directly into their chest to finish them off. Ya
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 9 жыл бұрын
Except when your "Defeated" opponent gets the better of you while you're showing off. Why not "End him Rightly"? Beat Him Down, Throw the Pommel at him, THEN Gloat about your victory.
@DefenderofFuture
@DefenderofFuture 8 жыл бұрын
"If I want to attack you - not that I do understand this is just notional" So polite!
@Isaac_El_Khoury
@Isaac_El_Khoury 9 жыл бұрын
The ideal way to take out a fallen foe: Hold your weapon up as if you're going to thrust/slash them and give a long, dramatic speech [in the middle of a battlefield] about how they affected their lives negatively and proceed to lower their guard while babbling nonsense. I'd like to thank Hollywood for my historical background.
@exploatores
@exploatores 9 жыл бұрын
IceCreamJimmies Is this when I trust my Rapier in to your chest. I have seen the Three musketers (1993)
@caracaes
@caracaes 9 жыл бұрын
IceCreamJimmies Don't forget to telegraph your final blow, so the enemy can escape on the last second.
@Obelion_
@Obelion_ 9 жыл бұрын
IceCreamJimmies another fact (thx hollywood): in medival warfare, nobody was allowed to interrupt your dramatic speech, this was a deal of knighly honor. even when surrounded by enemy troops, they had to let you finish your opponent, even if it was one of their dear friends. Also you could aways (similar to pokemon) force the enemy leader to a 1v1 duel in the middle of the battlefield by eye-contact without being interrupted
@ScienceDiscoverer
@ScienceDiscoverer 8 жыл бұрын
+Obe lion yea, like Legion Commander in dota 2 ;)
@Isaac_El_Khoury
@Isaac_El_Khoury 8 жыл бұрын
ScienceDiscoverer Get Aghanim's Scepter, then I think it's more viable.
@lDayyUmmml
@lDayyUmmml 7 жыл бұрын
*sees title* Hm *clicks* Hum *Scrolls comments* *Finds the one mentioning pommel throwing* Success. Bye now.
@averagehuman3788
@averagehuman3788 5 жыл бұрын
What is pommel?
@komdivmaklenskov1105
@komdivmaklenskov1105 5 жыл бұрын
@@averagehuman3788 The bottom piece of a sword hilt, and when unscrewed can be used to end anyone rightly.
@hobbitrash7815
@hobbitrash7815 5 жыл бұрын
FredyD.Great I did the exact same thing
@Godnando00
@Godnando00 5 жыл бұрын
@@averagehuman3788 the most dangerous piece of the sword
@Prometheus-pl2sg
@Prometheus-pl2sg 4 жыл бұрын
homosapien #XX09 a infamous Nazi General
@Plumjelly
@Plumjelly 9 жыл бұрын
Scything at the enemy’s ankles? Sounds like a good way to “de-feet” him.
@BIIGtony
@BIIGtony 8 жыл бұрын
I have heard tanks are pretty good to finish downed enemies with swords. God - Loyds videos are that kind were you can always go back and rewatch stuff if you are bored because they are so well delivered.
@classifiedad1
@classifiedad1 7 жыл бұрын
But what if they are Japanese? It's not the sword that's the issue. It's what's on his chest.
@humangs
@humangs 7 жыл бұрын
The sword too, mighty nippon steel is known for cutting through tanks.
@dogguy8603
@dogguy8603 7 жыл бұрын
Q: how to properly finish off your enemies A: fire arrows of course
@epherium8177
@epherium8177 7 жыл бұрын
No, obviously you need fire pommels.
@vincedibona4687
@vincedibona4687 7 жыл бұрын
God damn you all. *LOL*
@deafsquid6978
@deafsquid6978 3 жыл бұрын
Even for honour says throw your pommel at your enemy
@cranknlesdesires
@cranknlesdesires 3 жыл бұрын
"Hold up lads, now I know where I the front lines and currently trying to advance but there's this git on the ground so I need to go grab my bow and take a couple point blank shots while I'm right in the open without a weapon for melee."
@Otto_Von_Beansmarck
@Otto_Von_Beansmarck 3 жыл бұрын
Bah you throw a pommel to end them rightly
@novantha1
@novantha1 7 жыл бұрын
So, theoretically, the strongest army is a bunch of swordsman lying on their back with bows as a backup weapon?
@benjaminborkowski12
@benjaminborkowski12 7 жыл бұрын
But what if the enemy walks around your army so far away that the bows can't hit them?
@officerdonut7066
@officerdonut7066 7 жыл бұрын
i have a theory why not just pick up the closest rock and then throw it at the guy on the ground and then repeat it
@Feiora
@Feiora 7 жыл бұрын
that is called Stoning, typically used as a punishment for a type of criminal offense... and what if theres no rocks large enough to do more than annoy your fallen opponent?
@officerdonut7066
@officerdonut7066 7 жыл бұрын
i would do that
@DevotedPastafarian
@DevotedPastafarian 7 жыл бұрын
Throw his friend's sword, presumably by the time you're dealing with someone in this position someone has dropped something sharp or heavy
@BaslerJones
@BaslerJones 8 жыл бұрын
Its sound easier to play dead and ignore everything and hope for the best
@GhostInTheShell29
@GhostInTheShell29 8 жыл бұрын
+Basler Jones If your side loses, the mopup team will kill you. If your side wins, they might kill you too.
@HoboTango
@HoboTango 8 жыл бұрын
+GhostInTheShell29 Unless you are worth a lot of money. Then you can just be ransom
@GhostInTheShell29
@GhostInTheShell29 8 жыл бұрын
***** But then how do people consistently die in large numbers during stampedes? The last one in Mecca claimed quite a few lives if memory serves me right.
@ghazghkull133
@ghazghkull133 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward Nutt So I'm guessing you've never actually been in a large crowd? OR maybe a concert like a heavy metal concert. "No one is stupid enough..." wrong. Crowd mentality removes critical thinking. In a crowd desperate to push forward, no one is looking down. You are looking forward. Footing doesn't matter because you are being pushed. As any heavy metal fan can tell you, its easy to fall in crowds. Because you don't fall like a tree. You do not stay stiff. Your body crumples and you can fit into smaller spaces. Or one could simply fall at the front. I find it hilarious that you think large groups of people don't trample people to death when it happens all the time, even on black Friday. If people are standing in a formation moving forward do you think they will take a conscious effort to avoid stepping on a dead person or will they not even register them?
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 8 жыл бұрын
+Stopcontact Or his warhorse (800 kg) steps on you.
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 7 жыл бұрын
Came for the pommel jokes, got just that. Satisfied.
@killer13324
@killer13324 7 жыл бұрын
because he didn't mention anything about ending them rightly.
@Charlie-dx6bv
@Charlie-dx6bv 5 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@Volus_dude
@Volus_dude 9 жыл бұрын
1.Arrow in the knee : - limb of and become a guard. 2. nasty collection of various sharp stuff on your head: - tough luck mate, return to former saved game. 3. lose all 4 limbs because of some Arthur dude: - hop onwards and bite him, if you happen to be Monty Python variant of black knight. 4. Other random wounds and injuries: - ask your dungeon master how many dice you roll and if you are lucky enough. You manage to make a campfire or drink a potion. Otherwise wait a turn and have some nachos and beer.
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 9 жыл бұрын
I prefer the carpet option. It has the added effect of tidying the battle field up a bit too.
@Lazyguy22
@Lazyguy22 9 жыл бұрын
Valkanna .Nublet And it really ties the battlefield together.
@CorvinTheSwasian
@CorvinTheSwasian 9 жыл бұрын
Lazyguy22 and it might summon the Dude
@MrDUneven
@MrDUneven 9 жыл бұрын
Valkanna .Nublet Dueling people throwing pommels and rubber ducks and others throwing carpets on the fallen enemies, just what kind of battlefield is this?
@Valkanna.Nublet
@Valkanna.Nublet 9 жыл бұрын
A fun one :p
@abingabing6191
@abingabing6191 9 жыл бұрын
Valkanna .Nublet but from where u will get a carpet
@kermanguy1877
@kermanguy1877 8 жыл бұрын
How to finish off a fallen foe: extend your hand and help him up.
@naphackDT
@naphackDT 8 жыл бұрын
+Kerman Guy "Excuse me, kind sir. It appears, you have lost footing, while I was trying to run you through with my blade. Mind if I help you up, so we can try again?"
@eyegrinder94
@eyegrinder94 8 жыл бұрын
+Kerman Guy And while pretending to help them, you pull a cloak-and-dagger and dent their skull with your mace, right?
@MichaelSHartman
@MichaelSHartman 8 жыл бұрын
+naphackDT Thank you very much my fair gentle man. Nothing like a proper fight in the morning to get the blood going. Say we go for a pint of meade at near Inn for a good respite. When the others have finished themselves off there shall be fewer to disagree then we shall present a civil declaration of peace and have another round of meade. Sounds like a jolly good idea. You know the real reason I go to war is to get away from the old battle axe for a little peace and quiet.
@johnwalthall4937
@johnwalthall4937 6 жыл бұрын
COUGH queer COUGH.
@Thelnquisitor
@Thelnquisitor 5 жыл бұрын
Becomes a friend aka a finished foe.
@lukutiss1324
@lukutiss1324 9 жыл бұрын
Are there any documented instances of people feigning injury to gain advantage?
@tedstriker6646
@tedstriker6646 9 жыл бұрын
lukutiss1324 Star Trek
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 9 жыл бұрын
lukutiss1324 Soccer Games
@Kar4ever3
@Kar4ever3 9 жыл бұрын
lukutiss1324 Tumblr
@tedstriker6646
@tedstriker6646 9 жыл бұрын
The Hobbit
@lukutiss1324
@lukutiss1324 9 жыл бұрын
Let me restate that. Are there any documented instances in historical combat of people feigning injury to gain advantage? (I applaud and give my +1s to the football and tumblr jokes, even though I am a football fan).
@alexyguadalupe3456
@alexyguadalupe3456 9 жыл бұрын
What you dont understand is that you have to unscrew your pommel and throw it at your opponent to end them rightly.
@lennysmileyface
@lennysmileyface 9 жыл бұрын
Alexy Guadalupe I want someone to unscrew my pommel.
@pyroneutral
@pyroneutral 9 жыл бұрын
Alexy Guadalupe i was looking for this comment
@IronRooRoo
@IronRooRoo 9 жыл бұрын
Alexy Guadalupe Then kick back for some quality entertainment, watching rabbits shooting arrows at dogs.
@Aegox
@Aegox 9 жыл бұрын
Alexy Guadalupe Goddamn you. I just laughed my arse off; thank you Skall.
@morallyambiguousnet
@morallyambiguousnet 9 жыл бұрын
I got a rock. Skall posted something about a large percentage of wounds on skeletons from a particularly bloody battle being to the head and it made me wonder if those wounds weren't actually from injured and fallen foes being dispatched? After all, it was frequently seen as a mercy to put a badly wounded enemy out of his misery, rather than leave him to die slowly, and a head shot was a pretty efficient way to do that. Also, you don't have to avoid, tend to, nor feed a corpse.
@Thor.Jorgensen
@Thor.Jorgensen 7 жыл бұрын
The quality of the comment section is pretty much as good as: I used to make pommel jokes like you. But then I took an arrow to the knee.
@shaggnar2014
@shaggnar2014 9 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about the injured on the ground. Really makes sabatons and other leg armor make a lot more sense on dismounted troops
@darkblood626
@darkblood626 9 жыл бұрын
I love that apathetic "stab, stab, stab. Eventually I will get to you"
@MasterofTongs
@MasterofTongs 8 жыл бұрын
Or just pick up a big rock and throw it on the fallen foe.
@mikesloan3924
@mikesloan3924 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Wagner That's the best thing I've read today. It cheered me up heh. Reminds me of a rugby game I was In years ago. I got into somewhat of a disagreement with the opposite prop in the scrum, His first instinct was to just launch a huge clod of dirt right at my face. I'm pretty sure it had chalk or flint bits in it because I remember it hurting way more than the series of clumsy (we were about 14) punches that followed. Lesson learned though, that guy was not trying to win or lose, just hurt me bad. Throw the nearest heavy/spikey thing right at their face =]
@PixelatedPenfold
@PixelatedPenfold 8 жыл бұрын
+Steven Wagner Especially if he says Jehovah - but not until he blows the whistle.
@Thor.Jorgensen
@Thor.Jorgensen 7 жыл бұрын
Make sure there are no women around.
@TyphusAndronicus
@TyphusAndronicus 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he always refers to hypothetical fellow soldiers as 'friends'
@tomsalati1027
@tomsalati1027 8 жыл бұрын
i'm just here for the pommel jokes
@NevetsTSmith
@NevetsTSmith 8 жыл бұрын
+Tom Salati but they're not even good
@yannossrensen5857
@yannossrensen5857 8 жыл бұрын
+Nevets t. Smith ikr
@poiuytrewq11422
@poiuytrewq11422 7 жыл бұрын
Nevets t. Smith You sound as though you've felt the wrath of a Rightful Ending.
@nemtudom5074
@nemtudom5074 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too
@lorenzogiani7190
@lorenzogiani7190 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Salati Me too
@x-raymnd3972
@x-raymnd3972 4 жыл бұрын
1:33 thanks for explaining, I thought you were gonna jump from the screen and attack me
@slyose6154
@slyose6154 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
@TheApocalypticKnight
@TheApocalypticKnight 9 жыл бұрын
There are certain angles (and I'm not talking about the Angles here, but rather about the angles), which will offer the advantage to the standing man, namely the two vertical ones, where you stand vertically either to the fallen opponent's head or feet. With the feet I'd say the feet standing out loses him the reach advantage that he enjoyed due to being on the ground, and just above his head is a very difficult position for him to strike at you due to body mechanics. So naturally he will try to grovel his way to a more horizontal position where he can strike at his enemy's feet as you said, while at the same time you will try to circle around him looking for exposed feet or head to attack. Hopefully all that happens while not being disturbed by other wanting to share a bit of the action, because it may take a while.
@Tzizenorec
@Tzizenorec 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, hacking at the feet of an immobile man does nothing to make him stop fighting. Taking off the head will do it... the feet, not so much.
@codyrhodes2473
@codyrhodes2473 7 жыл бұрын
Well obviously you have to End Them Rightly by unscrewing your pommel and bashing your opponent's brains in with it.
@brianmacgabhann5630
@brianmacgabhann5630 7 жыл бұрын
A similar dilemma faced cavalry in Napoleonic times. An effective tactic for infantry to use if facing a lone cavalryman, or small group of cavalry, was simply to throw themselves on the ground. The cavalryman can't reach the prone opponent with his sword as he has insufficient reach, and a horse cannot be made to trample a prone man that he can see, no matter how well trained it is. Solution? Lancers, which were reintroduced to the main armies of Europe by Napoleon, and who could easily skewer a prone opponent. This was why infantry bore a particular hatred for lancers, who could expect to fare quite badly if ever captured by them. Thoroughly enjoyable video series by the way. Congratulations and please keep up the good work.
@Nerdarchy
@Nerdarchy 9 жыл бұрын
Seems straight forward, a great explanation of combat strategy when hindered by injuries. ~Nate the Nerdarch
@caveymoley
@caveymoley 9 жыл бұрын
LMFAO I nearly pissed myself with that "You are still a danger to those around you, particularly, one hopes, to the enemy. SO..." Do you script this or are you just a comic genius naturally?
@5hiftyL1v3a
@5hiftyL1v3a 4 жыл бұрын
The whole persona is an admitted scripted act. A good one. But not his natural persona
@unpopularopinionguy8480
@unpopularopinionguy8480 7 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a pommel joke but 150 other people beat me to it
@Fight2Survive
@Fight2Survive 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, been watching your channel all month long. Have to say it is very informative and interesting way to learn history. I wish you were my teacher. Keep up the awesome videos!
@MiaGadegaard
@MiaGadegaard 9 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the little used ancient roman formation known as the creeping larvae. It consists of a straight line of soldiers with swords and pikes creeping along the battlefield at ankle height, sweeping and poking the enemy's feet ruthlessly until they cower for mercy and beg for surrender. Frighteningly effective as the enemy could never reach them down there.
@birdiemcchicken1471
@birdiemcchicken1471 8 жыл бұрын
Was the carpet tactic a real thing? Because if it was, that's morbidly hilarious.
@yunofun
@yunofun 8 жыл бұрын
+Birdie McChicken I am pretty sure it was a joke.
@briang3598
@briang3598 8 жыл бұрын
It actually seems somewhat viable, aside from the hassle of carrying around sufficiently thick carpets.
@beaconrider
@beaconrider 8 жыл бұрын
joke
@swirlcrop
@swirlcrop 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so interesting.
@robstephenson7192
@robstephenson7192 7 жыл бұрын
jokes on him, i love getting my ankles scythed
@hoppinhighley1231
@hoppinhighley1231 2 жыл бұрын
This outro music is 👌; the TDP at the end pleased me greatly.
@metalslimehunt
@metalslimehunt 9 жыл бұрын
It really is interesting how people can die instantly from small things like king hits, and yet at other times prove durable beyond belief. It really is kind of hard to *kill* a human.
@lughfiregod16
@lughfiregod16 9 жыл бұрын
MetalSlimeHunt Yup, killing someone instantly generaly means; brain, upper spine, or heart. Injuring anything else often is just a wound, even mortal wounds don't always put someone out of action. That's why attacking a weapon hand is so good, if they can't hold a weapon, it's easy to finish them off.
@adrenochromejunkie
@adrenochromejunkie 9 жыл бұрын
I hope the aliens that invade us in the future don't have laser guns.
@lughfiregod16
@lughfiregod16 9 жыл бұрын
Unintentional Martyr Honestly, unless said laser disintegrates you instantly I don't see how it's worse then being shot.
@adrenochromejunkie
@adrenochromejunkie 9 жыл бұрын
Jane Murphy It probably burns, and might disintegrate. So yes, worse than bullets.
@lughfiregod16
@lughfiregod16 9 жыл бұрын
Unintentional Martyr You bleed when shot with a bullet, that's what usually kills you. A laser would cauterize the wound instantly. So like I said, unless it instantly disintegrates you, bullets are probably better.
@chanachon56
@chanachon56 8 жыл бұрын
How to finish fallen foes? EASY! Just unscrew your pommel and end him rightly!!!!!!
@kaimagnus5760
@kaimagnus5760 9 жыл бұрын
Grab a Polearm and stick them with the pointy end? An excellent lesson on weapons 101. I'm glad I subscribed to this channel just for the sheer entertainment value. Even if you already know what he's saying, he at least makes it fun to hear it again. Wish some of my former instructors from my school days could have done that.
@CryingPanSFX
@CryingPanSFX 7 жыл бұрын
I read something about how that was this big use of a two-handed bearded axe. It's got incredible leverage and range, excellent for piercing armor on a downed foe.
@therealr0bert
@therealr0bert 9 жыл бұрын
If I had a sword I would just unscrew the pommel and throw it at him to end him rightly.
@Borjigin.
@Borjigin. 9 жыл бұрын
2 options as far as I can tell: the spear one is very obvious, but assuming the foe has fallen with his feet toward the advancing opposite army and his head towards his own retreating forces (that is to say, he falls backwards, and not forwards upon injury) then it seems one could easily reach down, even with a sword or some similar weapon, and simply hack off one or both of his legs until blood loss quickly KOs or kills him. No?
@kalajel
@kalajel 9 жыл бұрын
al-Bakh'kam That is *very* situational, and again, a spear would get the job done much quicker...
@Borjigin.
@Borjigin. 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well if he fell face-first, this entire discussion pretty much becomes a non-issue, and if he fell face-first (ie. with head towards the advancing army) and then rolled onto his back, his head becomes very vulnerable to throwing things, such as rocks and debris, and also he can't see very well what's directly behind his head / 'above' him, and he'd be pretty easy to deal with.
@kalajel
@kalajel 9 жыл бұрын
al-Bakh'kam You seem to be making the mistake of thinking these are the only two ways someone will fall down in battle. Keep in mind that a battlefield can be a very chaotic environment, and a wounded opponent could fall down any number of ways depending on the wound, his momentum, etc. Hence, why I said that your previous example was *very* situational.
@Palpetinus
@Palpetinus 9 жыл бұрын
al-Bakh'kam Sure, you throw rocks and debris at his potentially armored head (keep in mind it's a battlefield) while he flails wildly in your direction. While you're busy throwing debris at the guy the enemy advances and you have your guard down.
@Borjigin.
@Borjigin. 9 жыл бұрын
Palpetinus I find it really easy to imagine a situation where you're advancing with say 10 of your guys, given that charges don't tend to be in groups of one, and it's not that tricky for one of the group to grab a heavy chunk of stone or debris of any large, bulky kind and to fling it out at the guy's head. As a general rule of thumb, chucking things have greater range than flailing, so that's not a problem.
@misterkid
@misterkid 3 жыл бұрын
Every combat analysis by Lindybeige ends with "they should just use a spear, instead."
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 9 жыл бұрын
That is the most logical narration of screaming in pain on the floor I have ever encountered. Bravo.
@BLooDCoMPleX
@BLooDCoMPleX 9 жыл бұрын
What if the guy on the ground has a machine gun?
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 9 жыл бұрын
Offer him a cup of tea. But seriously, it's a lot harder to shoot someone when you are crippled on the ground on your side or not in a proper shooting position, I can argue a spearman would kill you before you had the chance.
@robbert-janmerk6783
@robbert-janmerk6783 9 жыл бұрын
Ishak Ince Nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
@YOGI-kb9tg
@YOGI-kb9tg 9 жыл бұрын
Orbital strike his ass
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892
@myspacebarbrokenevermindif9892 9 жыл бұрын
no, violence is never the answer! offer him a cup of tea and discuss ducklings
@Thunderscreamer
@Thunderscreamer 8 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer taking my tower shield and jumping so I can perform a downward metallic body slam. That's also how I make wine.
@dogman9291
@dogman9291 3 жыл бұрын
A metal tower shield? That'd be awfully heavy.
@Thunderscreamer
@Thunderscreamer 3 жыл бұрын
@@dogman9291 Why this works so well ;)
@bigbunga2996
@bigbunga2996 4 жыл бұрын
what great advice, I'll make sure to use it next time i'm in medieval warfare
@samkowing9728
@samkowing9728 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I'd known this yesterday, really woulda come in handy. Maybe tomorrow
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax
@FluffyBuzzard2TheMax 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I like ranged weapons
@mlm_academyofficial2041
@mlm_academyofficial2041 7 жыл бұрын
Every sword with an unscrewable pommel is ranged weapon that does't just end them it ends them rightly.
@Siegbert85
@Siegbert85 8 жыл бұрын
"how to finish them off" hrhr
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 7 жыл бұрын
RIGHTLY
@sid.h
@sid.h 9 жыл бұрын
Gosh, I love your videos! I have a request too! I have just recently started learning to dance, and my ultimate goal is to lean Lindy Hop. I like your dance and etiquette videos very much, would you like to do a dancing for beginners series or something like that? Besides the current trend of historical videos, of course! :D
@davidodonovan1699
@davidodonovan1699 5 жыл бұрын
Alternatively, the attacker could use there shield, particularly if it's got a flat bottom end, the a rectangular sheild, to pin the downed soilders weapon to the ground and then charge in for the kill. Also, the attacker could charge and jump, sheild first, onto the downed enemy. If you land partially on the downed soilders weapon, and partially on the downed soilders torso, you can immobilize the downed enemy from counter attacking you, while you go for a quick fatal blow. Mind, this needs to be done quick, to get you back on you feet to fight the rest of the enemy and hence, not have the rest of the enemy go in for a quick stab at you while you're facing down onto the downed enemy. Alternatively, once the downed enemy is dealt with, the attacker could then have his companions behind him attack the remaining enemies from a standing position, while on the ground, the attacker can now attack the enemies ankles, etc, as the enemy is caught between defending against the attackers at standing height, and this attacker at ankle height. The attacker on the ground would need to be quick to turn his/her shield around to face the standing enemies blows though. Like jumping down onto the downed enemy, shield first, pinning the downed enemies weapon to the ground in the process, quick stab to a fatal area if the downed enemy. Jump up and back quickly, half squatting, obe leg behind for support, shield facing the standing enemy. Your comrades behind you can then face the enemy at standing height, while you can engage the same enemy at this lower, slightly different angle. Thus separating the enemies attention between you and thus being a presumably far more mentally taxing opponent.
@alzanari1274
@alzanari1274 8 жыл бұрын
can't find a video about europian martial arts without a comment with an "end them rightly" joke
@Oddigan
@Oddigan 8 жыл бұрын
It is said that only the Chosen Pommel, when thrown at such a powerful meme, can end it rightly.
@judebox1185
@judebox1185 7 жыл бұрын
whats with all the pommel jokes? anybody please help?
@almightyloaf3886
@almightyloaf3886 7 жыл бұрын
Inside joke from a channel called Skallagrim.
@judebox1185
@judebox1185 7 жыл бұрын
ok thanks!
@mikeandnike123
@mikeandnike123 7 жыл бұрын
+Jude O Cathain finish him rightly
@bcgroiSENSE
@bcgroiSENSE 7 жыл бұрын
I see it for months now, it's just annoying and not even funny.
@manictiger
@manictiger 7 жыл бұрын
bcgroi's just mad because someone threw a pommel at him in fencing class.
@levibarros149
@levibarros149 8 жыл бұрын
It's good to know these things, because I plan on partaking in medieval combat someday.
@galaxypl7756
@galaxypl7756 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice!
@Schone23666
@Schone23666 8 жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Don't finish off a fallen foe! By killing him/her/it, you only stoop to THEIR level, you become as bad and naughty (yes, very naughty, bad!) and it's such a dishonorable thing to begin with! Rather, you should share a long, loud and lengthy conversation with them, about how their evilness/naughtiness/lack of hygiene/etc. got them to this point, and how by genuinely being sorry about everything they did, they can attain forgiveness and redemption! ........... Actually, forget all that rubbish, just finish 'em.
@epherium8177
@epherium8177 7 жыл бұрын
Haven't looked at the comments yet, bracing for pommels
@johnsmith-tf8xb
@johnsmith-tf8xb 9 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about that situation. Interesting to think about.
@JustinShaedo
@JustinShaedo 9 жыл бұрын
"Help I've fallen and I can't get up!" ... "no worries I'll lend you this spear"...."really? couldn't you help defend me or carry me away or something?" .... "nope it's the spear or nothing"
@gurgy3
@gurgy3 9 жыл бұрын
Or, you could just use a .45 to finish them off. No spear buddy required.
@RamRam.720
@RamRam.720 9 жыл бұрын
gurgy3 I don't think throwing a blunt(ish) bullet at someone will do much damage.
@RamRam.720
@RamRam.720 8 жыл бұрын
***** Plate mail tended to stop muskets.
@RamRam.720
@RamRam.720 8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh i'm sorry, i didn't know there were perfect examples of modern guns in the 17th century -_-
@RamRam.720
@RamRam.720 8 жыл бұрын
***** Oh, my mistake, i forgot govan existed.
@iantaylor9540
@iantaylor9540 8 жыл бұрын
What about a pointed stick?
@ironheavenz
@ironheavenz 5 жыл бұрын
"throw a carpet over him and then run across him" Man, that's brutal, I really hope there were more spears than carpets in the past
@aslans8186
@aslans8186 7 жыл бұрын
the carpet idea is actually pretty good!
@r.d.b8853
@r.d.b8853 8 жыл бұрын
a simple answer to thy question, throw thy pommel at him.
@pkfreezing
@pkfreezing 8 жыл бұрын
Make sure you end him rightly
@nastrael
@nastrael 9 жыл бұрын
Army of dwarf spearmen. Gg
@FDGod233Productions
@FDGod233Productions 7 жыл бұрын
Came here expecting a really nice video and pommel jokes. Was not disappointed.
@Archiul
@Archiul 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is basically wendover for spears. Or wendover is lindybeige with planes. Whichever you prefer.
@tedstriker6646
@tedstriker6646 9 жыл бұрын
what if the other guy has a katana?
@hnhenrique2984
@hnhenrique2984 9 жыл бұрын
Ted Striker Them you just need to swing the katana once and the entire enemy army will have their heads cut off.
@tedstriker6646
@tedstriker6646 9 жыл бұрын
Hn Henrique Precisely.
@danielthompson6207
@danielthompson6207 9 жыл бұрын
Ted Striker In that case, according to the most venerable and ancient scrolls of Bushido, he has already won the battle
@danielthompson6207
@danielthompson6207 9 жыл бұрын
Raphet Kchotto Yes, feed the trolls!
@tedstriker6646
@tedstriker6646 9 жыл бұрын
Raphet Kchotto An X-rated comment?
@garrysmodd
@garrysmodd 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't people beg for mercy on the battlefields?
@GhostInTheShell29
@GhostInTheShell29 8 жыл бұрын
+Goodly That would vary greatly from time period, and combatants involved, but if your too wounded to fight, your probably not going to be useful as a slave. And most serious wounds were fatal due to infection. So most the time no. If your uninjured and surrounded and they'll take you as a slave then yeah it would work sometimes. If your not surrounded your best bet would be to run.
@garrysmodd
@garrysmodd 8 жыл бұрын
Ah, interesting.
@atlerthedark3639
@atlerthedark3639 8 жыл бұрын
+GhostInTheShell29 But you could still be ransomed
@GhostInTheShell29
@GhostInTheShell29 8 жыл бұрын
Atler the Dark Good point, that was common at times in history, forgot about that. So slightly better chance at survival then.
@AfonNoria
@AfonNoria 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving me even more ideas for the weapon I want to create for my larp character. And can I just say? I just LOVE your final (written) comments. :)
@StonesOde
@StonesOde 9 жыл бұрын
You're like the history teacher I wish I had!
@GenScinmore
@GenScinmore 9 жыл бұрын
you could throw the pommel at them.
@ColAlbSmi
@ColAlbSmi 3 жыл бұрын
Really wish I saw this earlier this morning, would have saved me a lot of time...
@TMBALAND319
@TMBALAND319 9 жыл бұрын
Another one for you here, Dave!
@dozzer
@dozzer 8 жыл бұрын
300 did this spot on. Front lines came in with swords and then there was a wave following up that did the stabbiness of those wallowing around!
@jamesmorgan3764
@jamesmorgan3764 4 жыл бұрын
I will keep this in mind tommorow
@Leto_0
@Leto_0 5 жыл бұрын
Well now I'm just imagining an entire army crawling on their bellies just swinging their swords at anyone who gets close
@raptorjesus3894
@raptorjesus3894 7 жыл бұрын
So basically if you just got a ton of dudes to lie down on the ground with spears you can hold off entire armies by just swinging at their ankles.
@erebus7306
@erebus7306 5 жыл бұрын
In a 1v1 a spear would be more effective in finishing a wounded soldier on the ground. But in a larger battle setting in which you are still fighting the foe and must move onto your next target quickly. The Shield would be more effective paired with a Sword. Your foe attemps to strike back at you with his sword or chosen melee weapon. Using your shield you block his attack and either slash at his arm to disable his arm or stab at his gut or neck. The process is safer and quicker allowing you to move onto another enemy while still staying safe from possible other enemy attacks as you finish him off.
@Charlie-tz6vk
@Charlie-tz6vk 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guidance ;)
@ThatIrishLass
@ThatIrishLass 8 жыл бұрын
Oh, damn, that end card was magnificent.
@regstar212
@regstar212 9 жыл бұрын
I'd now like to imagine a vast army of medieval soldiers on the battlefield, all lying on their backs, flailing swords and spears at the ankles of a mobile army.
@PeepoFrog
@PeepoFrog 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the battle strats bro! i will now crawl into battle
@Superabound2
@Superabound2 9 жыл бұрын
this seems like the kind of situation where playing dead would be the wisest choice of action. at least until someone gets close to you, then you can spring up and bite their kneecaps
@DarkX64
@DarkX64 9 жыл бұрын
Oh that ending message was quite special. XD
@youtert
@youtert 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that you don't want to attack me. I was worried for a bit there.
@sirdikcelot5165
@sirdikcelot5165 9 жыл бұрын
Oh damnit. I thought he was going to talk about throwing pommels at your foe vigorously.
@VerumAdPotentia
@VerumAdPotentia 8 жыл бұрын
As an ex-MP, I actually have some real-world experience with this issue. In Riot-Control training, when a "rioter" fell, the front rank would keep advancing as the 2nd and 3rd ranks reached out between those in the front rank and subdue and drag off the fallen "rioter" before he could do much else. I imagine that with the improved reach of an actual spear versus that of a riot control baton, it would be even easier. (Also, much of the riot control training we did was based on that of the Roman Legions, who used actual spears in riot control. You really had to be ticked off to riot in that day, and even more so to continue rioting when you saw the Legionaries form up into their echelon and begin advancing!)
@Avocado7765
@Avocado7765 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I needed this, I got this guy just laying on the floor, bleeding all about the place.🙄 he won’t let me get near him he keeps biting and spiting and scratching. Like, he’s so rude.
@jackpijjin4088
@jackpijjin4088 3 жыл бұрын
Smh my head 😾🙈🙉🙊 how rude
@JaguarFiend
@JaguarFiend 9 жыл бұрын
I'd call for Dave. He's sure to be nearby with a crow's beak...
@colincruickshank7679
@colincruickshank7679 9 жыл бұрын
who are these plonkers who keep dislikeing your videos? Down with that sort of thing! Have a nice day!
@Arkhestra
@Arkhestra 9 жыл бұрын
Another one for you hear Dave !
@Steelmage99
@Steelmage99 9 жыл бұрын
Another strong argument for the increasingly effective weapon-combination of Longsword-and-a-guy-named-Dave-with-a-polearm. :)
@clausroquefort9545
@clausroquefort9545 8 жыл бұрын
Maybe kicking some dirt into your opponent's face would do the truck too. They can still swing their sword around aimlessly but you will have an easier time blocking a hit and closing in.
@colinp2238
@colinp2238 7 жыл бұрын
During my basic training we were taught to neutralise the enemy. This was explained as either killing him or render him incapable so that he causes problems for his comrades to recover and/or tend to him.
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