Grenadiers increases miasma’s cloud iirc. I’ve been building a kabloom collection with vipers/miasma because I think there will be some synergy there, and the poison is at the point of hit.
@Metalweasel13 сағат бұрын
3:46 - Question about Awareness, does the 🚫symbol mean the enemy is immune to that type of damage? Or has no resistance to it?
@wiggle_plays5 сағат бұрын
Immune
@BubbleOfDoom22Күн бұрын
I think the miasma effect is technically an explosive effect doing like 1 damage. That's probably why it was hurting the robots, and if that's the case grenadier might double the range it hurts baddies.
@canevas1017Күн бұрын
Mr church says it does stack with grenadier
@Hopalongtom2 күн бұрын
The legendary mod that gives your dweller bowel problems!
@EtNORMZКүн бұрын
With grenadier it improves AOE, I have miasma on all parts/strangler heart powerarmor/ and Tesla Coils for max AOE TAG for melee defense.
@michaelfear4801Күн бұрын
I was thinking about the same build but adding vipers to a fixer and plague walker, my problem is carry weight on the strangler heart lol
@EtNORMZКүн бұрын
@ I was lucky enough to find the plan for the legs, weight is good now. Strangler set damage, miasma, Tesla Coils, and elemental mods, I don’t have to worry about annoying mole rats and weak scorched 😅
@Rpground2 күн бұрын
The problem with this is the damage is split between radiation and physical damage and the range on the cloud is quite tiny, so more then half the time half your damage is just wasted when most enemies are immune or highly resistant to rads. It's why those super mutants took so little damage from the effect. I would rather just use reflective, sure it can be less damage but you get more overall since it has no range cap. And, if you want to use Vipers, just use the strangler heart set. Poisons at any range on any hit.
@naxxy00Күн бұрын
If that damage split is true, then why did robots not take any DoT as they should because they are immune to poison? It was maybe split in pts but it is poison dmg now. However it still sucks yeah.
@RpgroundКүн бұрын
@@naxxy00 When he was getting hit, the robots were still taking damage from the poison explosion. They just weren't getting the poison status effect, which they are immune to.
@genocidestomperКүн бұрын
Would be interesting to have a full poison build: Weapon mod: Poisoned Sheepsquatch club/staff or something similar + 3star Toxic and 4star Viper's Strangler heart power armor + Miasma's Mutation: Plague Walker And take on something big like a scorchbeast
@genocidestomperКүн бұрын
Also add grenadier and ricochet
@JPoogerКүн бұрын
This but with thorn armor for a non PA build.
@AlexAutoAxeКүн бұрын
Tested most of this without Plague Walker, its still good! But youre probably gonna kill enemies more with a weapon than the poison damage. Still not a bad buff in combat. If you put on Grenadier and expand the radius of the damage you can get off a nice ranged build with normal weapons.
@AlexAutoAxeКүн бұрын
With Thorn armor is really nice but you usually smack an enemy and wait for them to die in the next second or so. Would not recommend for a stealth melee build unfortunately
@canevas1017Күн бұрын
@@AlexAutoAxedoes demolition expert do anything
@yukimizuno40462 күн бұрын
use grenadier it increas the explosion radius
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
I've tried it. The radius is still too small.
@user-tn8ci6wg5k17 сағат бұрын
...and Demolition expert
@peteblackbourne514Күн бұрын
this was the synergy I was thinking of, thanks for the test, though I still wonder if strangler heart and vipers might work..
@grum71402 сағат бұрын
I’m working on getting strangler heart armor and am going to pair it with as many passive legendary effects and mods as possible so that if an enemy hits me he will get hit with reflective plating, toxic, miasma, and the strangler heart poison cloud. Won’t be the best power armor, but it will be really cool thematically
@kevenblackworks1906Күн бұрын
Fun fact; Plague Walker will still deal poison damage to melee targets even without any diseases. So so long as your melee, you will always trigger Vipers.
@Mestari1GamingКүн бұрын
We need a Poison receiver- and an Automatic magazine mod for the Crusader Pistol! The poison mod would synergize well with the Viper's effect.
@seendon53942 күн бұрын
Does the plague walker effect stack with all this? I’d love to do a plague bringer build (diseases are super hard to get in this game when you’re a high endurance tank build..)
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
No idea. I've never used plague walker since you can't keep your diseases.
@seendon53942 күн бұрын
@ I wish they’d let you keep diseases or implement perks that boost their duration
@genocidestomperКүн бұрын
@@wiggle_plays Plague walker is a mutation
@wiggle_playsКүн бұрын
I know what it is, I just haven't used it.
@willierodgers2846Күн бұрын
With grenadier perk it adds a little more range to the poison
@OnlineHipHopTVКүн бұрын
Probaly best way to use this as a melee. Only equip 1 slot of miasma and use bruisers on the other 4 peaces. Throw vipers on your melee weapons. It will give your melee a nice damage boost.
@wormwoodmain6677Күн бұрын
Problem with that is you could do polished and it would be better. Viper + 4/5 bruiser +3 strength (from 3 star)= 50%+20%+15%=85% Polished+5/5 bruiser=60%+25%=85% The only issue with polished is that the increase is permanent due to a bug when paired with the 3 star durability increase. But currently as it works you wouldn't need any downtime for the enemy to hit you (ex: in an event when stuff isn't aggroed on you).
@OnlineHipHopTVКүн бұрын
@wormwoodmain6677 Yeah but polished is annoying to maintain
@wormwoodmain6677Күн бұрын
@OnlineHipHopTV like I said currently bugged, when combined with durability 3 star it locks it into a permanent 200% repaired state.
@wormwoodmain6677Күн бұрын
I wonder if the intended use was to pair it with thorn armor for more coverage? Honestly just seems like a mod for diluting the 4 star pool.
@PrettyTigerlillyКүн бұрын
I've tried it with Thorn armor and it wasn't good, this was paired with a plasma flamer with the Vipers mod. However, it's incredible when added to the Strangler Heart PA.
@petertekippe53912 күн бұрын
I’m building a pvp set using vipers and strangler heart with this mod. Do you think it will be good? Seems that a poison build for PVP would be beastly.
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
Unless you are doing melee PVP, this wouldn't do anything at all.
@petertekippe5391Күн бұрын
@ auto axe with poison mod and vipers on it so yes it is
@sudilos11722 күн бұрын
Let me save you all. No, it Stinks. The only enemies that hit you are ghouls, animals, and some molemen. It takes a super long time to kill anything that does hit you. Poison doesn’t stack unless you use a shotgun type weapon. The vipers synergy ain’t great. Most enemies that you’d want vipers against. You can already wipe out at close range. Goodbye
@MomofukudoodoowinduКүн бұрын
The problem is what other 4th Star would be good for a full health glowing ghoul that’s feral and can’t use ranged weapons and is not in PA? I put this on my soon-to-be-ghoul alt because there’s nothing else that’s make sense. Sawbones? No it literally has two health bars, you wouldn’t help you at all. Rangers? It can’t use ranged weapons and it’s melee anyways.
@wormwoodmain6677Күн бұрын
@@Momofukudoodoowinduliterally bruisers?????
@canevas1017Күн бұрын
Are you saying if you use poison on a weapon it won’t stack with miasma?
@MomofukudoodoowinduКүн бұрын
@@wormwoodmain6677 25% additive wow wee much damage, ill really notice that with my auto axe. Nah ill take the minor CC from miasmas.
@shaunphares8995Күн бұрын
What is Bethesda doing, do they not now how to just give us higher level weapons, just give us higher level enemies 100+ like 150- 200 and give us up to level 100 weapons so they can stop messing with the damage. Just give us good solids mods and weapons and armor please stop trying to play with small numbers complicating everything and making it all bad.
@kyiesalerno8401Күн бұрын
Use the Terror Sword or something that applies poison.
@michaelfear4801Күн бұрын
strangler heart power armor will add poison to whatever weapons you're using
@michaelmckenzie5477Күн бұрын
How does it work with strangler heart armor?
@bucsrno1Күн бұрын
I think that would be a lot more interesting. Maybe the damage would stack? I think Wiggle should at least give it a try.
@deeptroit_569217 сағат бұрын
I wonder if it makes a difference when you go all in with plaque walker and strangler heart
@necrosiss21702 күн бұрын
That camp though…..😂
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
Bask in the glory of the amazingness of my camp.
@NOVALAND6Күн бұрын
I want miasma for events like scorched queen etc so I can focus on the queen and main bosses while those pesky scorched or more minors etc are meleeing me. Pair it up with rejuvenators maybe 🤔
@ValTek_ArmoryКүн бұрын
I could see this being good when paired with a viper's shotgun or smg build
@StarlikeShadowКүн бұрын
now i doubt it will work with what i have in mind but why not try it with grenadier, but its also bethesda so theres a possibility that it might work in making the area bigger
@nukacolanut60952 күн бұрын
Another great rundown! Thanks!
@jeremydowney66572 күн бұрын
Does it stack with Strangler Heart power armor??
@bucsrno1Күн бұрын
That would be interesting.
@garbagepailkid2 күн бұрын
Fun seeing you at the Depths the other night.
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
😉
@drackarКүн бұрын
I figure the only viable use for this is in combination with a full set of 3'd star add damage perks, on PA with the PA specific add damage mods. Even then, you're probably not getting a lot. If you combine +poison 3'd stars, with the + posion 4'th star, on a poison auto axe, with the poison 4'th star weapon, it would be... amusing, but trash tier build.
@salamifinger9510Күн бұрын
Grenadier does Increase the Range of the Miasma effect.
@user-tn8ci6wg5k17 сағат бұрын
Works a lot better with a Vipers auto axe, grenadier and demolition expert on. I use it on Raids against the 3 amigos and it works great
@albelblackdragon2 күн бұрын
I've heard grenadier effects miasma dont know if its true though
@wiggle_plays2 күн бұрын
It does but since the effective radius is so small, it doesn't amount to much.
@albelblackdragon2 күн бұрын
@@wiggle_playsvery true
@TheZilikynКүн бұрын
even just using one of these is ok in my experience. not bad to combine with something else
@willblake722 күн бұрын
I'll still throw it on a Strangler set eventually once I have five of them, but it's a shame its as weak as we figured it would be.
@dpellek742 күн бұрын
Yea. It helps in crowds and it's limited.
@aDingoAteMyBabyКүн бұрын
This is what I have for the drill level of the raid. I sit at the top of the ramp with a poison modded auto axe. It's very helpful in that guardian role while the rest of the team runs for the fuel.
@dpellek742 күн бұрын
Also. Tesla rifle with fracturers. Wow. Tons of explodie. 🎉
@Aereosato2 күн бұрын
Thanks for testing how bad it is
@TheIdiotfilter22 сағат бұрын
Thank you for confirming that it's really not that useful.
@VeeCyberpunkКүн бұрын
Either way, great video. 👍
@maximage3091Күн бұрын
Grenadier increases its radius
@ksjones38Күн бұрын
Put grenadier on ❤
@Xanderman-ll2vs2 күн бұрын
This would be good on Strangler Heart
@molochx2 күн бұрын
Would it? Do they stack if not it would be useless….
@Xanderman-ll2vs2 күн бұрын
Knowing Bethesda, it would probably stack anyways or might stack twice
@scottthomas43342 күн бұрын
@@Xanderman-ll2vstry it all ready it's terrible 😔 with Thorn and heart😢
@spiralshadow2 күн бұрын
@@scottthomas4334 It works just fine with Thorn, which only applies bleed. It does not work well with Strangler since poisons don't stack. From testing it looks like you can have two bleeds on a target at once, one from an armor source (Thorn) and one from a weapon source. Only one icon will show but they're ticking concurrently. Poisons however don't differentiate between weapon and armor sources so you can only have 1 going at a time, and it'll be overwritten by the last source to apply the poison DoT. So Strangler will overwrite the stronger Miasma DoT. For weapons, sac blade machete is unfortunately pretty weak DoT by itself, would be good if it stacked with Miasma. Ultracite Terror Sword hits like a truck and its DoT is the strongest poison in the game, while also having built-in Viper, so it's pretty good even though the DoTs don't stack. I hope poisons not differentiating between weapon/armor source is unintentional and that Bethesda will allow them to stack like bleeds.
@bucsrno1Күн бұрын
IDK, I thought that Wiggle would have given it a try.
@sbob172 күн бұрын
Willys
@xxxBlooКүн бұрын
No.
@rick_osheaКүн бұрын
All these 4* effects are meh at best!
@petertekippe53912 күн бұрын
I also think you went about this video in the wrong way.