Fallout Show Primer + Game History

[@LiamW42]

OMG when Ty tells Amos, "You know YOU'RE going to end up doing birthday parties," and you see Amos' soul leave his body for a second... COOOOLD blooded! Ouch!

[@TexasNight]

FYI, the date the war starts is 2077 in the fallout universe, but it is a universe that diverges from "our" universe ~ the end of WW2.. The 1950's aesthetic / attitudes persist though 2077. And the microchip was never invented, so technology developed in different ways (why the TVs and radios still look like they are from the 50s)

[@ADMNtek]

it's not that they never invented the microchip it was just invented much later.

[@elruffian163]

It was the transistor

[@SergioLeRoux]

There are transistors in the setting but not microchips. The "water chip" is almost PC motherboard sized. They are a mixture of vacuum tubes and big transistors. I mean, I guess there are some "microchips" like the platinum chip from New Vegas, but these are usually one of a kind artifacts rather than everyday items. Remember that scene in Back to the Future when young(er) Doc Brown had to fix the car, he had to make a microchip substitute with 50's parts and it ended the size of half of the car's hood.

[@ADMNtek]

@@SergioLeRoux MIcrochips are just a lot of tiny transistors packed together. So if the transistor got discovered later so was the microchip and it would make sense for it to be not as commonplace/economical. we have that all over the place Graphene was discovered in 2004 and has been heralted as the next big thing but is barely used for anything because it isn't economical. but someone like Mr.House or the military don't care as much for the economics if they want to get shit done.

[@Shamino1]

Everyone above is incorrect. It was the SEMICONDUCTOR which was never invented, which kept the retro-futurism aesthetic plausible for the setting. It's heavily implied but never outright stated that House in New Vegas was close to creating a semiconductor before the bombs fell.

[@ottopia]

I can’t wait until they realise that it’s a Die Hard sequel starring Lucy McClain, the great, great, great granddaughter of John McClane.

[@CainOnGames]

I thought watching the first two episodes of the Fallout TV show at the Hollywood premiere was surreal, but watching the co-writer and a main actor from The Expanse (books and show) discuss Fallout and its history is even more surreal. Thank you, Ty and Wes.

[@blackzodiac22]

hi tim !!!!!!

[@RocketSurgn_]

Absolutely incredible work you all did, the original Fallout was what hooked me on CRPGs!

[@shonnewton3331]

Having Tim on as a guest would be great!

[@marinekid13]

Please I need to see Ty and Tim have a conversation and Wes just be amazed. Talk about anything and I'll be here.

[@NigelSmith72]

Ok, now we need an "Expanse" game by Tim and "Fallout" book written by Ty.... Too much to hope for, but we can dream :)

[@onlyplaywizards]

This omits a major historical element of the original Fallout's development (that has a lot in common with The Expanse), namely that they had origins in TTRPGs. Steve Jackson Games was to license their GURPS (Generic Universal Role Playing System) to Interplay to make Fallout: A GURPS Post-Nuclear Adventure, but then things fell through. A lot of the initial game story was built with that RPG system (much how Expanse had those inklings in the d20 system).

[@jonathanedwardgibson]

Still have my GURPS book

[@onlyplaywizards]

@@jonathanedwardgibson At utter classic & important piece of TTRPG history.

[@TommyZ3429]

The doll leg was absolutely a reference to the junk jet. Later when guy shoots his buddy, if you pause it just right, you'll see he has scissors, another doll part, and a hand mixer sticking out of him. I'm a little sad that no one was shot with a teddy bear, because that is definitely one of the more hilarious things the junk jet can do.

[@vincegamer]

The show inspired me to play fallout 1 again. It still holds up. It's also fun how many nods to the original game are included in the show. One less than obvious one is the three vault dwellers considering leaving in the beginning. Fallout 1 you pick which of three characters you want to play: The charismatic female, the muscular but not too smart mail, or the smart, but not very physical male. Basically Lucy MacLean, Chet and Norm MacLean.

[@maxidejf]

Fallout show is phenomenal! I do hope you cover rest of its episodes.

[@sharpeslass5452]

We had a Commodore 64 also... I played Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on it.

[@yamagata008]

LOL Love Ty's comment, "you're going to end up doing birthday parties, you know that." Ty gives as good as he gets. I love these shows!

[@caturdaynite7217]

The adapter you had to use to get video through your TV antenna was called an FM Modulator. It took the video signal from the game console and converted it to FM so the TV could demodulate it and display video. You had to set your TV selector to channel 3 or 4, depending on which channel was not being used by OAR TV station. Early home computers used an FM Modulator to get video in to the TV. Never really got in to games, but electronics made me go gaga. Taking apart electronic anything was my jam. I started with rotary phones. I'm in IT now, it has been a career.

[@okreylos]

I think one reason why it worked so well for the show to create a new story in the same universe is that that's basically what the game franchise already is, with every game doing an independent story with different characters that are merely connected through the shared universe and timeline.

[@johnnyprovidence8414]

Loved the “ retro futuristic” aesthetic

[@gexay]

This podcast is a clear deliniation of the guy who played sports and the guy who played video games and their diverging paths

[@yamagata008]

LOL! I love that interchange with Ty telling Wes why they were friends. I roared with laughter at Wes' reply. That make up with no "Welcome Back." Truly. You guys are great together.

[@fungiplays2289]

I missed Wasteland but was right there for the launch of Fallout 1. Hell of a ride!

[@Petalumination]

Walton Goggins' cowboy character at the beginning of the pilot looked to me as though it was taken directly from a guy from the late 50s/early 60s named Monty Montana. He was a stunt man and trick roper who often appeared in rodeos and the Rose Parade in Pasadena. My family went to a rodeo at the L.A. Coliseum back then, and I remember him standing on his horse (Rex) while performing rope tricks. The Cooper Howard cowboy character even dressed similarly to Monty Montana. Montana was never blacklisted, though.

[@arthurmarques6191]

Please do more episodes on Fallout

[@yamagata008]

OMG -- I remember that opening of the game with Ron Perlman's voice! This is like walking down memory lane. Thanks for the reawaken memories!

[@jockcop4205]

Spectrum ZX+ for me. I can still here the screeching of the tape deck loading

[@yamagata008]

I love this episode. It took me back to my childhood/adolescent days. Ty exactly described growing up and my first computer was the Atari 400 with a membrane keyboard and 4K of RAM. I upgraded that computer to a full stroke keyboard with 64K of memory. Wonderful.

[@Trepanation21]

Emil Pagliarulo, a developer who worked at Bethesda Game Studios on Fallout 3, Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 as a lead designer and writer, said the timeline is basically as follows: Year 2077: *Bombs drop* Year 2102: *Fallout 76* _(re: Vault 76; released Oct 23, 2018)_ Year 2161: *Fallout 1* _(released Oct 10, 1997)_ Year 2197: *Fallout Tactics* _(released Mar 14, 2001)_ Year 2241: *Fallout 2* _(released Oct 29, 1998)_ Year 2277: *Fallout 3* _(released Oct 28, 2008)_ Year 2281: *Fallout: New Vegas* _(released Oct 19, 2010)_ Year 2287: *Fallout 4* _(released Nov 10, 2015)_ Year 2296: *Fallout TV: S1* _(released Apr 10, 2024)_

[@rzimmerman716]

The thumbs up in the opening scene gives a whole different meaning to Vault Boy holding up his thumb…

[@Flohr]

This was great, always love to listen to you guys. Absolutely love the Fallout games and the show Ty was absolutely right the show nailed the tone. One minor ummm actually though: Wasteland is definitely the spiritual precursor (and then weirdly successor when it comes back) but they are not the same series. If anyone reading this wants to learn more about the origins of Fallout and the connection to Wasteland, I highly recommend Tim Cain’s KZbin channel. He has some great videos talking about the origin of the first Fallout, and much of what Ty says is accurate but ultimately they are different settings and have different lore. Wasteland 3 is absolutely fantastic though if you want a modern game that feels like 90s Fallout! Good stuff, hope you guys watch the whole series and talk about it more!

[@Deckaio]

I hope they reach out to Tim and invite him, if they do a follow up on the series.

[@milesw420]

1/2 way in and a Sky Captain reference, thumbs up.

[@nomiddled7290]

Vic-20, Commodore 64 then Amiga!!

[@OlversEars]

In the late 70s I worked for Softape that produced games for the Apple II and TRS-80. As the years went by there were so many incredible games by so many companies for all the micros of the time.

[@markolsen1989]

Great discussion on the pilot! I hope you guys keep discussing the show and I’d love to see the review once you’re finished!

[@danielcote5841]

Seems like only yesterday I was printing my final college papers late at night on my Commodore dot matrix printer which was really popular with my parents 😂

[@curtisbme]

Good 'ol C64 and it's 5 1/4 floppies. Such a leap up from the Vic 20 and its tape drive. So many hours of Jumpman and having your M.U.L.E.s randomly go crazy.

[@floydster23]

My gaming started with a Coleco Telstar. Also remember completing Impossible Mission with my brother on the C64, which was loaded up on the Commodore Datasette.

[@HungryEyes-sl3mu]

So happy you guys are covering this show, this felt like the perfect show for you two to review, and there were some loose threads I hope you answer. I thought Ella Purnell did a great job and can't believe she's also the VA for Jinx on Arcane. Really appreciate the deep lore Ty is dispensing, also thank you Joseph for the top notch video game research and editing. Also, Wes does this mean you wont perform at my birthday party???

[@fredcookerly9385]

My hometown mall had a pong console. And one Christmas we got a version of the Sears pong console which not only had pong, but also had a racing game where you just dodged back and forth as cars came at you vertically faster and faster.

[@alanhembra2565]

I’m glad you guys talked about the show.

[@SirWussiePants]

I loved Space War back in the day. It blew my mind. That and Wumpus, the original Adventure (Go South, Look Candle). I had Pong, the Atari console, TRS-80, various Atari computers. Now we have VR games. Crazy

[@martinjacksonmj]

Yes, love to hear what you say after watching the full series. Shogun too

[@yamagata008]

LOL. I love this show, Ty and that Guy. Ty gave me a new reference on Fallout! I appreciate the series now. I before was so disappointed that the series seemed to end at a awkward spot and/or just seemed too short. I like that it was going to be a running joke with Joseph at the end. Thanks for such a great time. I really enjoy watching and you guys have succeeded to give greater enjoyment in watching Fallout. Thank you for that!

[@MrDlenrek]

Hope we get a part 2 where Ty finishes talking about fallout and wasteland game series

[@killerdrgn]

Need the full Shogun discussion too, especially now that the series finale has aired

[@elidasilva5558]

Can't wait for them to review the whole series

[@jamesmoriarty7796]

I love how Season 1 Amos decided to take the podcast from Wes.

[@JackMValentine]

Only taking into account information we see in the first episode, Moldaver was trying to make Hank (the father) choose between his daughter and the people. He chooses his daughter by putting her in a protective area safe from the explosion. He gets knocked out so he can only assume he let those other people die. Moldaver lets them go, but Hank wouldn't have a way of knowing that. It seems oddly personal. Especially when Moldaver says that Lucy looks like her mother. I think it's an excellent set up, very much being introduced in the middle of these stories.

[@rzimmerman716]

I’d love to hear an in-depth dive of Ty’s thoughts on each Fallout game.

[@simonemason2281]

I was trying to play New Vegas the other day. Keep on crashing on me 🤕but still as much fun as I remember. I felt that one raised the stakes faction wise. Would love to hear what Ty thought to

[@richdartt4584]

I remeber failing a summer seesion of numerical analysis because I was hooked on Colosuss Cave, a PDP version of Zork.

[@vincegamer]

By the way, Ron perlman wasn't the only named actor to provide voice work for the original fallout game. Other voices were Richard Dean anderson, Richard Moll, Tony shalhoub, David warner, Keith david, Clancy brown.....

[@bsbllclown]

I loved the original Fallout games! Always argue with my younger gaming friends about which was the best the old iso ones or the newer FPS ones.

[@armandominotti]

Glad to see you guys are still doing podcasts, i've been out of the loop for a while but youtube suggested me the good old duo of yours :-D Looking foward to see your opinions on this show as i watched all your videos on The last of us...and the expanse ofc.

[@recordatron]

I remember getting old big box PC games and crossing my fingers it would work on my PC in spite of meeting the system requirements. There'd always be potential for some wrinkle to occur specific to your system that would either not run the game at all or have all sorts of sound issues and such. I remember getting Klingon Honor Guard which would just straight up not play sound in cutscenes and would refuse to budge an inch regardless of what we did. Good times 😅

[@IzoOnTheRocks]

Alright, we need this discussion for every episode of the season. Very entertaining gents!

[@smithskyes]

I’m surprised TY didn’t talk about Wing Commander video game and how it blended movie and game together.

[@DeprecatedFork]

I had to learn how to navigate directory structures in DOS so I could play The 7th Guest when i was 12. nothing was going to stop me though.

[@lolo_hrh]

The part where they say choose them or your daughter is a reference to The Fallout Shelter game

[@Trepanation21]

33:22 Wes asking about the babydoll leg ammo, lol. That's from a weapon called the "Junk Jet"! It lets the player use all the random bullshit and garbage we pick up as ammunition, lol. First appeared in Fallout 4, however a version of it was in Fallout 3, called the "Rock-It Launcher".

[@mudmonkeymagic]

Really enjoyed the Fallout show. Some of the story elements were a bit convenient but the overall tone, atmosphere and characters - super engaging.

[@imadetheuniverse4fun]

would love to see a review of each fallout episode! this was awesome.

[@jimyoung9262]

Never heard of Fallout before. Thanks

[@camenecius4922]

FYI the TRS-80 was made by Tandy aka Radio Shack, not IBM. (The Trash 80 Model I was my first computer with its 4K of RAM and programs stored on audio cassettes.) IBM followed up their business "IBM PC" with the PC Junior, a truly hideous pile of parts.

[@Kevin_Fiol]

My first computer was a VIC 20. The predasessor to the Commodore 64 😆

[@DJMarcO138]

I'm sitting here staring at "that guy", musing to myself that he looks a lot like Wes Chatham from The Expanse....and then I finally read the video description, lol. SHUT UP, I AM HIGH. xD

[@ChrisGwilliam83]

🔔👍🏻 Absolutely loved this show!

[@clonedllama]

Wasteland 2 and Wasteland 3 from inXile Entertainment are must play games for anyone who enjoys the Fallout series. They look and play more like the first two Fallout games. So, if you enjoy turn-based combat in your post-apocalyptic RPGs, they're worth a look along with the entire Fallout series.

[@John_259]

Commodore had two other models before the 64, namely the PET and the Vic 20.

[@mannydib]

Just finished the Fallout series. Loved it!

[@daisuke133]

Welcome back... Welcome back never changes.

[@craig.a.glesner]

Oh hell yeah, my boy played PONG! We had one in my family. Funny thing my mom straight out chewed my dad out for spending $250 on a video game. Of course since PONG was basically video tennis, my mom ruled on it. :)

[@KyleOfTheNorth]

There were a few issues I had with the story but overall I enjoyed it and will definitely watch season 2.

[@Pinion327]

The Commodore Amiga was so far ahead of its time

[@shonnewton3331]

Did Joseph say this was the Mass Effect pilot?

[@targe762]

Im not sure what Ty is saying when he says 'they didnt lift anything from the game', they lifted ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING😂😂😂 Its the most faithfully adapted show ever done. Its also not true they didnt try to turn the games into a show, thats Exactly what they did! The main Quest is the Bethesda trope of leaving the vault to find a family member. It feels like a game quest and it feels like your playing the game, same with the side quests. The only part I dont recognize from the game is the whole 'ghouls need drugs' thing (love this addition tho). Tone, Heavvy lifted. Art, music, costumes,sound bytes (tch-sssss! Stim pack) Lifted. Story beats lifted. Humour, lifted. Props, looks like Bethesda just gave them the 3d models, all 1000% Lifted in all their Nuka Cola rocketship bottle GLORY lifted.

[@TexasNight]

It's called the Junk Jet!

[@racingmaniacgt1]

I thought when Bethesda did the Fallout 3 they did the great job of getting the world feel exactly like the Fallout game, and like Ty said the TV show felt right too. Fun show.

[@FesterSilently]

Love you guys; love the show; have been loving (and hating...lol) the games since "Fallout 1". My only pedantic point is: I think the Fallout games told amazing stories in the background. The world-setting and environmental storytelling was/is unparallelled. Where they absolutely suck is in telling a compelling *player character's* story. Outside of maybe "Fallout 1", the main quests/player's story were the most ill-conceived/ill-executed part of EVERY Fallout game. Having said that, I still have thousands of hours invested in the game series, with no sign of stopping. :) Keep on keepin' on, gents!

[@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-]

0:30 I ain't so good at math but, that would make him like 40,000 years old.

[@fungiplays2289]

I'll hire Wes for a kids birthday party. It'll be fantastic!

[@rini6]

Fallout came out 10/10/97

[@MrDlenrek]

Short but sweet episode. Enjoy!

[@Barberserk]

Great shirt Ty!

[@JuanFromH-Town]

The dad went Amos on the raiders

[@wardell90]

Ty did you play StarCraft and Heroes of might and magic 2/3? Love those games. Haven't played fallout 1&2 yet but definitely plan on it. Loved 3, NV and thought 4 was pretty good as well. Edit: lol, agree on halo but I liked reach as well, after that they've all been garbage.

[@MrSharpshot]

Commodore 64 "Land of Spur" game on my local BBS. Good times

[@CyanTiger]

The system the spacewar game was on was a PDP-1 or at least that what the footage used in the show.

[@VadimPakhutkin]

Just a tiny correction: Wasteland was never supposed to be a spiritual successor to Wasteland at all (according to one of the creators, Tim Cain). And thematically they are very different - Wasteland is more tongue-in-cheek satirical, and Fallout is more balanced.

[@Tureck]

Best video games of all time needs to include System Shock.I think.

[@targe762]

The baby leg was shot by a giant projector cannon known as the 'junk jet'. You load it with junk as ammo, teddy bears being a favorite, a tshirt cannon on steroids. You cannot make it, it is a unique weapon you find the one prototype of in Fallout 4 at ArcJet Industries when you assist the Brotherhood of Steel to raid that building looking for a radio part so they can call in the Prydwin, their giant airship. Nerd rant ova 😂

[@patton610]

War was 2077 not 1950 huac doesn't (so far as I know) exist in that timeline the big difference seems to be the absence of integrated circuits in tech. But the nuke fell in 2077 not the 1950s

[@kerrissedai6857]

I enjoyed the first episode for Fallout.

[@atwalhome]

Is it too early for a... War ... War never changes...

[@snorpenbass4196]

The Asteroids Ty played must have been 70's because I played the early 80's version and it was more advanced than that (though not as much as the one they showed on screen, that must be a more recent retro-style remake). Very very crude pre-vector graphics, everything made of literal triangles, what would later become the first 3d game graphics.

[@okreylos]

He was talking about Spacewar!, developed in 1962. The footage they showed is original game footage running on a PDP-1, not a remake. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacewar!

[@NigelSmith72]

"Shogun", for me, best show since "The Expanse"... although "Fallout" isn't far from that top tier, either.

[@jonathanedwardgibson]

Television… never changes.

[@jonathanedwardgibson]

Lore, don’t tell. This is a brilliant production attendant to details and worthy of praise. Nice discussion.

[@mndrew1]

Best game of all time: Wizardry 8.

[@LiamW42]

I just LOVE watching the eternally curmudgeon misanthrope Ty gets sincerely excited about something :)

[@emchartreuse]

10/10/97

[@davids4610]

Marathon !

[@sporluck]

this isn't the 1960s, it's 2077 time frame

[@jamesrmore]

DOOM baby!

[@iainyoung8057]

Atari st vs commador 64 😉

[@okreylos]

I'd say Atari ST is one generation after Commodore 64 (16/32 bit vs 8 bit), and was competing with Commodore's Amiga through the late 80s/early90s. Atari's competitor to the C64 in the early- to mid-80s was the 800 XL.

[@iainyoung8057]

@@okreylos hey, in terms of generations you could well be correct. But in Scotland just north of Glasgow in the early 90's it felt like atari st vs commador 64😅🤣 at least with me and my friends when we were kids 😊 heavy duty nostalgia all over those memories 😁

[@loganxart]

Wes shaved his head.

[@DangerousDac]

Halo went wiggy after Reach, not 3. Id say odst and reach are the best of the franchise.

[@mudmonkeymagic]

Reach and ODST are top tier games for sure.

[@daplace902]

1985 - I was in my early 30's. Always in to tech stuff. I was gigging regularly in a very happening place in Eastern Wa. & right next door opened a Computer store ,filled with young Geeks. I don't remember where or when I got my 1st PC but it was a Commodore 64. Not for the games, but the musical & all the other capabilities. I was learning Basic & taught my 64 to play the theme to "St.Elsehwere". I loved recording & was on the cusp with a 4-track Portastudio. I didn't get a Computer for gaming. I thought gaming was fun, but never got into it because it always looked like crap - It still does to my mind. And WHY would I want to sit for Hours ... Killing ? SO, I watched the 1st episode of "Fallout" & couldn't get through it. I Love Walter Goggins & it looked Fabulous, but it is about NOTHING - endlessly. Sorry - it is about Nothing. I tried it a 2cnd time & still couldn't get through the 1st Episode. I am glad it has already been renewed. Goggins deserves to have a good paycheck ,but I certainly can't help the ratings. No Way

[@marcB420]

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