Fallout TV Show Review

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Timothy Cain

Timothy Cain

3 ай бұрын

I have now watched all 8 episodes, so let's talk about the Fallout TV show. Caution: there are spoilers!
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@Carcerian
@Carcerian 3 ай бұрын
It's official, Tim Cain is a self-confessed Murder-Hobo! 😆
@CainOnGames
@CainOnGames 3 ай бұрын
Hey, we’ve all been a murder hobo once or twice.
@Carcerian
@Carcerian 3 ай бұрын
@@CainOnGames I'm glad you liked the show Tim, I thought it was great, my only gripe was the lack of deathclaws and Super-Mutants, but that leaves something for season 2. The lore changes were fine in my book, making Vault-Tec, Big MT, and others the conspirators was a great touch, and explained all the weird Vault experiments perfectly. I'm glad the enclave got a place as well.
@satanicchocobo9705
@satanicchocobo9705 3 ай бұрын
@@CainOnGames my mr shank from fallout 2 will always be my alter ego. Stabbing before asking is just fun sometimes i guess
@poppers7317
@poppers7317 3 ай бұрын
@@CainOnGames or all the time. And in the game.
@Rensune
@Rensune 3 ай бұрын
​@@Carcerianconsidering that Sinclair was the only nice rich pre-War guy, it's a terrible lore change. Giving Ghouls a healing factor (outside of a high rad area) is also bad. And bombing Shady Sands screws over New Vegas. Though most of the "Lore changes" seem to mess with NV.
@witeshade
@witeshade 3 ай бұрын
My good friend Nate here in Florida is a well known cosplayer. The dead assaultron laying in the sand in episode 2 is actually his costume that they bought from him to use. He had to keep it secret for a long, long time and was super excited to finally see it on the screen.
@MirIsAwesome
@MirIsAwesome 3 ай бұрын
that's sooo cool, tell him he did a great job on it lol
@jetrifle4209
@jetrifle4209 3 ай бұрын
Bullllllllllllllshtttttttttttt
@josefinarivia
@josefinarivia 3 ай бұрын
@@jetrifle4209 the part that it was a cosplay is true. you can fact check it online.
@arielsandoval5595
@arielsandoval5595 3 ай бұрын
that’s amazing! how you know showrunners care about the show.
@MedSurg420
@MedSurg420 3 ай бұрын
​@@jetrifle4209rude
@DagobertX2
@DagobertX2 3 ай бұрын
The part with the "water chip broke and we only have two months" FO1 reference was a bit weird, because no one talked about it later. 😂
@giancarlo5945
@giancarlo5945 3 ай бұрын
Because it was a lie to elect the supervisor of 31
@dmsnotesadventuresofthethi779
@dmsnotesadventuresofthethi779 3 ай бұрын
@@giancarlo5945 damn I must be stupid I never caught on to that. I just assumed that they were willfully ignorant of trying to change their situation but this does make since. I suppose I got too distracted from the vault 31 stuff.
@blinkachu5275
@blinkachu5275 3 ай бұрын
@@dmsnotesadventuresofthethi779 even if it wasn't a lie, they had vaults 32 and 31 as well they could've gone to to get their water filter They weren't dead in the water (excuse the pun) just yet
@Stumme-40203
@Stumme-40203 3 ай бұрын
@@blinkachu5275That was honestly probably what they told the vault dwellers. “Vault 31 had a spare.”
@drekwilliamton5830
@drekwilliamton5830 2 ай бұрын
Oooo member when the story was actually original?
@browneyeofsauron1244
@browneyeofsauron1244 3 ай бұрын
I love how you didn't pull the "I made Fallout" card. I also love how you, as one of the creators of Fallout still theorize about Fallout. Your acceptance of other storytellers' take on the franchise is really commendable.
@GypsumGeneration
@GypsumGeneration 3 ай бұрын
Did you not see the video about the special treatment he gets from Bethesda?
@kaanozkuscu5079
@kaanozkuscu5079 3 ай бұрын
@@GypsumGeneration yes, he gets that because he is a person like @browney described, no one invites selfish people like the other dude.
@browneyeofsauron1244
@browneyeofsauron1244 3 ай бұрын
@@GypsumGeneration No. Wdym?
@suejak1
@suejak1 3 ай бұрын
@@kaanozkuscu5079 Leonard? Oh is that why Leonard is always checked out of these things? Is he anti-Beth or something?
@kotzpenner
@kotzpenner 3 ай бұрын
Yes exactly! I thought the same! Lucy: First playthrough Maximus: second playthrough Ghoul: third playthrough
@pboogity8309
@pboogity8309 3 ай бұрын
Almost exactly what I said 3 different levels of experience with the game just like they have 3 different levels of experience with the outside world.
@Nicolatteaur
@Nicolatteaur 3 ай бұрын
Lucy: FO3 Maximus: Tactics Ghoul: New Vegas
@RogueJyn
@RogueJyn 3 ай бұрын
I was gonna say, Lucy's arc reminded me a lot of when I first ever played fallout. Coming out of the vault and just learning as I went along. Brought me back to those days watching her. And like you said, I definitely play the games a lot more like Cooper when I hop on these days
@ThirsttyRecon
@ThirsttyRecon 3 ай бұрын
@@Nicolatteaur When the show adds a character running around in spotted underwear and shooting a pink handmade rifle with explosive rounds you know its 76.
@sercanguzel2961
@sercanguzel2961 3 ай бұрын
Lucy-FP: Let's see what is under this rock. Maximus-FP: I WANT THAT POWER ARMOR AND SMASH EVERYONE TO BITS. Ghoul-FP: I can do this all day. Full Perception/Endurance/Agility.
@yigitdemir3723
@yigitdemir3723 3 ай бұрын
You are mocking me with this thumbnail, Tim.
@classica1fungus
@classica1fungus 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@premkumar7969
@premkumar7969 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Boarbatrice
@Boarbatrice 3 ай бұрын
(Not so) fun fact! In South Korea, there are very sad and lonely guys who think any time they see the two fingers close together, it’s mocking them. It doesn’t matter the context or if it’s a single second or even single frame. They will try to cancel whatever it is.
@ericcartman2119
@ericcartman2119 3 ай бұрын
Üzme kendini kral :D
@Hypno_BPM
@Hypno_BPM 3 ай бұрын
😂
@cassieudy5718
@cassieudy5718 3 ай бұрын
The three protagonists basically being player character builds doing the same campaign but via different routes / sidequests was BRILLIANT. It translated so well into TV. Never expected the show to be as good as it was.
@maximvsdread1610
@maximvsdread1610 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I have to admit I wanted it to be a continuation of the dumpster fire that bugthesda is but, It was pretty good I have to admit. Some people say the chem Cooper was taking the stave off turning is a retcon but, I disagree. In Nuka World in FO4 you do a mission (I forget everyones names) where you help a Ghoul find his ghoulfriend who was on the trail of such a chem IIRC.
@ZombieKitty321
@ZombieKitty321 3 ай бұрын
@@maximvsdread1610 There is a large amount of precedent for rad drugs being developed during the war that cause ghoulification in the lore, so really its a GOOD retcon in my opinion, because i think they are working towards Coop having a ghoul back story similar Eddie winters ro Hancock, where he didn't just ghoulifiy naturally, reason for this is because every other ghoul we see going fearl has mental problems but never huge shut downs, but when coop is withdrawing for lack of a better term, he seems sick, not like he is going crazy, which leads me to believe his ghoulification is different enough that his symptoms are completely different from other ghouls So i honestly feel like the retcon is to highlight this difference.
@maximvsdread1610
@maximvsdread1610 3 ай бұрын
@@ZombieKitty321 Yeah. Could be...lol... :)
@Tegemanator101
@Tegemanator101 2 ай бұрын
@@maximvsdread1610why would you want something that you enjoy to be a dumpster fire? I just can’t get behind that logic. This is the issue I have with Fallout fans is that they LOOK for ways to hate on the IP they love. If you don’t like it, that fine, but wanting it to be bad before you even watch it is just silly
@maximvsdread1610
@maximvsdread1610 2 ай бұрын
@@Tegemanator101 I never loved them. They sh*t on the lore. They sh*t on Obsidian. FO4 was a sh*t RPG. 76 was them sh*tt*ing on the ones that did Love them. They will never make ES6 or FO5. AND IF THEY DO.... It will be a bigger disappointment than Starfield. I'm just reading the tea leaves and enjoying the warmth of a toasty dumpster fire that's well deserved.
@ashuggtube
@ashuggtube 3 ай бұрын
The only thing they didn't do, that I wish they'd done, was bring Ron Perlman in to say "War… war never changes" 😊
@Wylkus42
@Wylkus42 3 ай бұрын
Hoping he shows up as the Vault-Tec CEO in a future season and says it himself.
@hhectorlector
@hhectorlector 3 ай бұрын
@@Wylkus42 yep. it's exciting to think how much can be added in future seasons.
@DookRahool
@DookRahool 3 ай бұрын
Ron is not very popular right now in Hollywood due to his outspoken opinions regarding his political beliefs and Hollywood elites. I don't know if he has been blackballed entirely, but his presence in productions has definitely decreased. The actor's guild holds a lot of sway in the industry and if you don't march in lockstep with their narrative you do not succeed without large outside backers.
@ashuggtube
@ashuggtube 3 ай бұрын
@@DookRahool Oh, I was not aware. Thanks.
@DookRahool
@DookRahool 3 ай бұрын
@@ashuggtube Yeah, it's unfortunate, I enjoy Ron's acting and VO work. I don't believe that those things should matter in a professional setting. It is what it is nowadays, optics and all, I guess.
@Pigness7
@Pigness7 3 ай бұрын
I agree that vault tec was planning on nuking but didnt actually, they had so many unfinished vaults. You'd think they'd finish construction on all their projects before pushing the button.
@guaposneeze
@guaposneeze 3 ай бұрын
It also just feels very realistic that there would be a half dozen factions that all thought they were super clever and ahead of everybody else, but events were really just spiraling out of everybody's control. Vault Tec would have gotten overconfident because they thought they were the only ones that could control the timing. But there were too many fingers on too many buttons. "US was going to defeat China, so China responded to territorial invasion with nukes" is *also* a perfectly plausible scenario, no matter how much other lore gets laid alongside it. I like that it's vague. Vague feels honest. It's always layers with war, history becomes like an onion where you keep peeling back layers to find deeper causes. If they set a Fallout game in China, I am sure all the information in China that the player could find would blame events on the US government, etc.
@DeletedZeroZero
@DeletedZeroZero 3 ай бұрын
in the endcard of episode8 you see a billboard, advertising for CryoTubes. VaultTec definitely plan to sell even more slots for the upcoming Armageddon, there is no way they woulda nuked before they found a way to control the situation on who will make it to the future
@MapleFried
@MapleFried 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't Operation:Anchorage confirm Chinese spies gave their gov the Intel on VaultTec planning to drop the bombs so they decided to get the jump on the US while they were scrambling to get their ducks in a row?
@ChrisPBacon-ic6ix
@ChrisPBacon-ic6ix 3 ай бұрын
Well we know vault tec did drop nukes in America because we can find an unexploded VT nuke in Megaton. We also know the corporations had taken over n had amassed more money than the government was worth making them huge assets to the US. In my mind, I think peace talks were to be had between US n China but when VT found out about it, they jumped the shark before the public could find out. That could be why the weather guy at the start was talking about how the nukes could go off any day now even though we know there were plans for peace talks. Or I could be getting the lore wrong. Pls correct me if I'm wrong 🙏
@maximvsdread1610
@maximvsdread1610 3 ай бұрын
You're not seeing the big picture. Most of the vaults didn't matter. You heard her cut them loose on their own in the board meeting. They were squabbling. Only certain vaults were given central priority. That didn't go over my head.
@malik740
@malik740 3 ай бұрын
My favorite 'easteregg' so far was Cooper wanting to buy a 5 acre farm in Bakersfield.... Bakersfield shows up as Necropolis in Fallout and Cooper turns soI thought it hilarious he thought he is safe there haha
@hengineer
@hengineer 3 ай бұрын
I grew up in Bako. That's funny.
@dathunderman4
@dathunderman4 3 ай бұрын
Bakersfield is truly a meme among Californians lol, there’s a reason why they chose Bakersfield to be Necropolis
@hengineer
@hengineer 3 ай бұрын
@dathunderman4 yes. And it's a meme even to those of us from there "armpit of California" lol
@rubyvi5442
@rubyvi5442 3 ай бұрын
Disappointed that there weren't any fallout 76 eastereggs
@elkudos6262
@elkudos6262 3 ай бұрын
Necropolis isn’t particularly worse than the rest of the wasteland, it’s just populated by ghouls.
@kuridongo
@kuridongo 3 ай бұрын
hi Tim! I asked Michael Abbott Jr., the actor who played the sand purifier diaper guy, if he was familiar with the original game. his answer was: "To this day I’ve never played any of the #FALLOUT games or seen any of the animation. The physicality was based solely on what I thought someone living under those conditions might look like and luckily Jonah & Graham were into it. The cloth diaper on the other hand-THEIR idea;-)" this is a very interesting convergence of interpretation of what being in the wasteland would look like!
@jadedstargazer
@jadedstargazer 3 ай бұрын
Neat
@CainOnGames
@CainOnGames 3 ай бұрын
Please tell Michael he was one of the high points of the show for me. His walk, his appearance, his dialog…all very Fallout.
@MikesLeague
@MikesLeague 3 ай бұрын
Tim is literally a legend, so positive. Must feel incredible seeing something you worked on from the beginning evolve into such an IP and now with a show too.
@spongegobler3449
@spongegobler3449 3 ай бұрын
It would be so cool to see the original Fallout devs get a cameo in the next season
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 3 ай бұрын
He should play his same character from Nuka break
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 3 ай бұрын
@@Kawmbat_Veteran It would be so sool if you touched grass and tried speaking to actual people in person, you absolute mentalist.
@forrestnolan1168
@forrestnolan1168 3 ай бұрын
@@Kawmbat_Veteranbro do u realize this review is by the creator of fallout…
@Kawmbat_Veteran
@Kawmbat_Veteran 3 ай бұрын
@@forrestnolan1168 uh check again, Fallout was created by a few people. He was just one of the creators, clearly he was one of the guys who went and got coffee for Todd, Chris, Josh and the rest of them. Of course he will say "oh the show was so great." He most likely got paid by Amazon to say that. Anyone who likes your comment is just riding you because they're just as clueless how games are made.
@jetrifle4209
@jetrifle4209 3 ай бұрын
​@@Kawmbat_Veteranhe's like the main reason we have fallout stfu and respect tim cain you pleebian
@alexanderhs1617
@alexanderhs1617 3 ай бұрын
I wish this video was 3x longer, could listen to you talk Fallout all day
@captainyossarian388
@captainyossarian388 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Tim, please considering doing a deeper dive review, maybe episode by episode if you're up to it.
@davidjames2659
@davidjames2659 3 ай бұрын
I started with the Fallout and stayed for the 90's programming. Check out his playlists, so good.
@Orangubara
@Orangubara 3 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie I wish Tim would bless us with 1h long videos :D It's hard to watch them all but when I do sit and watch him, I could sit and listen to him for hours :D
@nulledpixel
@nulledpixel 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Tim could do hour long vids in general and I'd watch. The guy is just interesting.
@Mephilis78
@Mephilis78 3 ай бұрын
Same
@BasedBuilders
@BasedBuilders 3 ай бұрын
My favorite easter egg is the 101097 code! Oh, and as far as the Shady Sands nuking date goes, I can see all sorts of ways that the writers can write around that. It seems like the kind of moment meant as an attention-grabber--with an explanation already in mind. We're still waiting to find out what happened to the NCR, and the writers still have tons of open pathways that they can take the NCR. For example, the leadership simply might not have been there. Judging by the way the timeline was drawn, some unknown amount of time passed between the fall of Shady Sands, and it being nuked. If Shady Sands fell, that doesn't mean the leadership died; it just means that Shady Sands was no longer ground zero for the NCR. If the key figures aren't there, then nuking Shady Sands is not enough to kill off the NCR. Also, even though the show seems to have altered the location of Shady Sands--or maybe Shady Sands itself is supposed to have been re-founded at some point in a new place?--I can't help but remember that it was settled by former Vault 15 residents. Perhaps the location of Vault 15 followed the location of Shady Sands, meaning that the leadership had a handy bolt hole... one that could have been repaired enough to be nuke-proof, during the many years after it was last abandoned. Oh, and for you who do not know your history, on August 24, 1814, Washington, DC was captured; British troops burned down the White House, the Capitol, and a lot more big chunks of DC--our equivalent of Shady Sands. The seat of our government was destroyed. And yet, somehow, here we are, over 2 centuries later. Crazy, huh?
@BasedBuilders
@BasedBuilders 3 ай бұрын
Laf uTube edited my comment for me, removing the 101097 passALLONEWORDcode part! And the italics, and the bold words. Thanks, uTube. You're soooooooo good at keeping the world safe for humanity, you are.
@funtecstudiovideos4102
@funtecstudiovideos4102 2 ай бұрын
Arent there signs "Last outpost of NCR" or something like that ? I think saw such signs in last episode
@AP-lh1bq
@AP-lh1bq 3 ай бұрын
Much respect, sir. You helped bring one of the greatest IPs to life and it was wonderful to hear your thoughts on the show
@petesime
@petesime 3 ай бұрын
Wilzig asking Lucy "The question is, will you still want the same things, when you've become a different animal altogether?" was such a good piece of foreshadowing for the conclusion.
@phattjohnson
@phattjohnson 3 ай бұрын
How do you mean? I don't remember Lucy becoming a dog :P I think it's just a general "Harsh experiences will change us all" kinda line.
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t 3 ай бұрын
@@phattjohnson Man, that joke was ruff.
@gluck5869
@gluck5869 3 ай бұрын
House alluded to this theme as well in his brief cameo. 'If you confine a group of rats to a nest for a long time they end up eating each other, who's to say your rats will be able to survive better than the animals on the surface?'
@Zivudemo
@Zivudemo 3 ай бұрын
That's just the ending of Fallout 1 rewritten
@luisbarragan6495
@luisbarragan6495 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Wilzig knew something about her dad!!! Didn't he also tell Lucy things about her own vault and that he knew alot of things that only other vault dwellers would know? Hmmm! Great comment and good catch!!!
@Bigs4Show
@Bigs4Show 3 ай бұрын
Tim, i thought the same thing. Why would she send her kid to the party knowing the bombs would fall? Something is up there.
@JediMasterYoda66
@JediMasterYoda66 3 ай бұрын
im surprised that not many people have mentioned this
@jackrichardson4089
@jackrichardson4089 3 ай бұрын
There's still a lot of context we haven't seen yet. Plenty of gaps to be filled via flashbacks in future seasons.
@filthycasual8187
@filthycasual8187 3 ай бұрын
I personally think Vault-Tec betrayed her too.
@jakces3810
@jakces3810 3 ай бұрын
yes, i agree. like The Ghoul said "there's always somebody behind the wheel."
@RobotWithHumanHair.
@RobotWithHumanHair. 3 ай бұрын
@@filthycasual8187 could be someone in vault tec went rouge and launched early, could be vault tec never got to enacted their plan and this is the chinese or even something else starting the war
@martinchasco2349
@martinchasco2349 3 ай бұрын
Hi Tim! Big Fallout fan here since 1998 (got to it a little later), and your work in general, writing to you fron half a world apart. Love that you use KZbin yo let us hear your ideas, and that you actually read us back. Been waiting to throw something relevant just as an excuse to first show my true appreciation: kudos to you. I loved the Fallout show. It got me drilled to my seat. I got actual shivers when I heard the now famous “War never changes”, and felt like a little kid finding everything that was on screen releted to the games. I would have much preffered if they kept the FO1/2 aesthetic, but I get it: it’s Bethesda doing their own thing, and I deeply respect that. So, here is my 2 cents: it’s true, Fallout is known for it’s unreliable narrators, some inconsistencies are to be expected from game to game, and even on the same one (looking at you backstory about Jet!), given the amount of extension, time and people involved. But beyond that and on a “canonical” review, I belive that “The Fall of Shady Sands” was an exaggeration (after all the Fall of Rome didn’t mean the destruction of the City of even the Empire, that continued east for years to come), then we see a nuked city. Which striked me as off, given that Shady Sands was a post war town, made by adobe settlements, in close proximity to Vaults 13 and 15 (the latter, where most of its population came from), near the mountains, and far from any City. The Shady Sands, close to LA, could mean the State of Shady Sands, as part of NCR, that we see in the show: still is on. Maybe its some mix up, and the city is actually the LA Boneyard. What was really off for me was that the post ending scenes that show a desolate New Vegas, filled with downed NCR vertibirds. A thing that sent my suspension of disbelief haywire was the MacGuffin cold fusion: I mean wasn’t that what fueled most cars, cities and even power armor. And energy weapons used self contained, portable micro fusion reactors. The thing it came too little too late, kept it from preventing the Resource Wars, in a world that still dependen mainly on fossil fuel? Vault-Tec didn’t stopped its use, nor did the US gov. Sorry for the long rant and thanks for all your work!
@malif1279
@malif1279 3 ай бұрын
You got hearted by Tim!
@martinchasco2349
@martinchasco2349 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the heads up,​​⁠ @malif1279​​⁠​​⁠ ! I’m really not tech saavy in general, or in KZbin in particular, this is all kind of hacus pocus for me. So, had to spend some well earned skill points on Science (or, actually, Google search what that means). Very glad you liked that Tim! Also, this comes to me somewhat later: Cooper Howard (gessing, some kind of tribute to Bethesda’s own Todd Howard?) comments several time on being a US soldier in the power-armored division in what we can guess was at the latest the Battle of Anchorage, the “final” part of the Sino-American War, previous to the “Big One”. Coop lets it slide that he used a T-60, which experience tought him had a vulnerability in the chest plate, that he infamously exploits to down several Brotherhood Knights. So I have at least 2 questions: how was he using a T-60 in Alaska, when they came to be only “months before the Great War” (gessing it shoud have said a T-51b); and if this was a known secret for him for several years, how come he didn’t use that with his first encounter with Maximus? Also: I want to see in the future a “Power Armor Sweet Spot” perk in the future
@guilhermegrg
@guilhermegrg 2 ай бұрын
He used a T-45. He talks about it after doing the vault tec commercial
@cleansanchezmedia
@cleansanchezmedia 3 ай бұрын
I love these videos that you come out with in the morning. Small talk show type but its so refreshing to here honest perspectives from the man who was there from the start!
@danielliew8698
@danielliew8698 3 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed Ep. 4. The one where Cooper drags Lucy around and they meet a ghoul named Rog and Lucy finds out the consequences of her accidentally destroying Cooper's vials. Then, Cooper has to put him down as a result. Later in the same episode, she releases a bunch of ghouls in a Super Duper Mart and has to do the same with Martha. The episode then ends with Lucy saving Cooper by bringing him the vials despite what he put her through. The tone of the episode was pretty much close with the original Fallout in that you could do everything right and still lose but still not give up anyway.
@DemoBytom
@DemoBytom 3 ай бұрын
The shootout on the bridge was also chef's kiss. She really tried to be better, and that got Maximus shot.
@stairmasternem
@stairmasternem 3 ай бұрын
That episode also serves to introduce people to Ghouls as a concept too, as up to this point you’ve only seen Cooper who is still fully functional
@Qwayzar
@Qwayzar 3 ай бұрын
"No good deed goes unpunished "
@tentonmotto6779
@tentonmotto6779 3 ай бұрын
Episode 4 was an incredible hour of TV. It captures the whole idea of why people play RPGs, Fallout in particular. And it even works as a self-contained story because of how tight Lucy/Cooper plot is. Sadly, Episode 5 is where the series started to lose me because it diverged more and more into signature Jonathan Nolan's tract (see later seasons of Westworld). And I did not appreciate changes to the lore.
@manbatmiso
@manbatmiso 3 ай бұрын
So agree!
@Zieksmythe
@Zieksmythe 3 ай бұрын
Yes! The guy with the “water filter” I loves that part! I told my wife that scene felt straight out of fallout, especially the end where he says “thanks for not shootin me with that gun” 😂
@EggEnjoyer
@EggEnjoyer 3 ай бұрын
“A fella hand you a bottle of clean water, ya drink it. Even if you’re not thirsty, ya drink it” Loved that line. He’s a genuine good dude but comes off as rude and entitled due to the common sense sentiments of the surface dwellers. He’s just doing as his mamma taught him 🥺
@TheGodOfGematria
@TheGodOfGematria 3 ай бұрын
I hope that guys Lucy's love interest after everything is said and done, he legit is just a chill wastelander lol
@JohnDaubSuperfan369
@JohnDaubSuperfan369 3 ай бұрын
Funny because to me that scene had every negative feature of the show dialed up to the max. The jokes are so obvious and fall so flat it is insane, I can imagine the same crowd that thinks Big Bang Theory is funny would find this funny. The world building is fucking atrocious, as in there simply isn't any, most settlement scenes could be swapped around with scenes from Mad Max Thunderdome and you wouldn't notice the difference, entirely box-standard post apocalypse design. The by now royalty free music is the only thing creating even a hint of atmosphere. Also, food stuff packaged in cardboard exposed to the elements for over two centuries isn't edible, it wouldn't even be there to be found in the first place, glad to see Bethesda didn't feel the need to right any of their wrongs for the show. The overall level of CGI is also horrendously bad (a lot of it done by a Bulgarian crowd, and it really shows), especially the surrounding wasteland in exterior shots is very very poor. Fallout 3 does an infinitely better establishing shot of the wasteland upon the vault dweller's emergence on the surface, a game from nearly 20 years ago that looked like dog shit even then, how fucked up is that? The movement of all creatures and the power armor is often even worse than the scenery. In the end the show was exactly what I thought it would be, a completely sterile marketing exercise with the non existent production values of a straight to streaming show.
@KeytarArgonian
@KeytarArgonian 3 ай бұрын
That and the guy coming in during the election campaign to tell everyone the water chips broken 😂
@TheGodOfGematria
@TheGodOfGematria 3 ай бұрын
@@JohnDaubSuperfan369 anyone who takes fallout this serious, as a game and especially as a TV show, is clearly unaware that there's almost nothing serious about it. The visuals are supposed to appear somewhat corny, almost cartoonish. The only serious characters in the entirety of fallout was Ulysses, Frank Horrigan, father Elijah and elder maxson. Virtually any other character in fallout is generally an outline. So if you didn't like that particular scene for whatever reason I feel like fallout is not a show for you.
@yarnamite9781
@yarnamite9781 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos, too many videos on KZbin these days are made without real personal interest. All of your videos feel as though they are made because you have something to say about something you are connected to and I love that. Even your videos about working in programming and design, they are an absolute gold mine of small details that could really help people manoeuvre through that world. Keep doing what you are doing man, your channel is great and I hope to see more seasoned veterans of other industries doing the same thing!
@devinchadwick9147
@devinchadwick9147 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the full season, I was going to ask if you'd make a video on this! I'm really impressed and surprised by the TV show paying so much tribute towards the franchise, from all over the games, but still being willing to take risks and make waves in the timeline. It makes me feel optimistic about the future of the franchise and what they'd be willing to do with stories branching off from here. Thanks again Tim, love the videos and so happy to see your brain-child done justice and shown all the love it deserves.
@inquerion8867
@inquerion8867 3 ай бұрын
Todd Howard confirmed in a interview that nuking of Shady Sands happened shortly after events of Fallout New Vegas (2281) and that Fallout 1, 2, FNV and Tactics are also still canon. "Fall of Shady Sands 2277" is not referencing nuking in 2277, but something different.
@Burning_Soul
@Burning_Soul 3 ай бұрын
Wait Tactics is Canon? i thought Tactics was considered Loose Canon
@ltbq
@ltbq 3 ай бұрын
@@Burning_Soul they previously said Tactics and BoS weren't canon but Emil put out an official timeline and it does now include Tactics, so they seemingly went back on that. I think BoS is still non-canon though.
@chaserseven2886
@chaserseven2886 3 ай бұрын
@@ltbqI actually would’ve preferred if they remade it and then make that canon
@Burning_Soul
@Burning_Soul 3 ай бұрын
@@ltbq Tactics is the only game ive not looked into at all, What made it non-canon originally?
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 3 ай бұрын
@@ltbqEmil also said some wild stuff about canon the past week, including stuff that was so off base that he needed to go back on it (fallout 4 guy was in the intro to fallout 1?) so we should probably take anything that’s not directly confirmed in a piece of media with a massive grain of salt
@-nomi.-
@-nomi.- 3 ай бұрын
The show ends at that point in the games where you feel like things are really getting started: Bringing back the water chip, returning Arroyo, reaching New Vegas. The ending feels like that point and it's tough to wait for more.
@dominicTh3Donkey
@dominicTh3Donkey 3 ай бұрын
Loved watching the video, Tim. It was nice seeing how excited and giddy you were when talking about stuff and being caring about other creatives
@Hakuru15
@Hakuru15 3 ай бұрын
Thats a very good point about "Vault Tec" planning to nuke first but maybe got caught off guard when China launched the nukes when they were literally losing on the main land, very curious indeed, hoping season 2 clears it up more
@Uryendel
@Uryendel Ай бұрын
He's talking about the nuking of the NCR, not the one from the war, and he's being very generous to the the show to cover the plot hole, yes characters can lie, but the year when a nuke drop off is hard to fabricate when it was less than two decade before
@nathandanner4030
@nathandanner4030 3 ай бұрын
It has recently come out that the Writers of the TV show asked permission from Todd Howard to Blow up Shady Sands. So I definitely think that they have a plan in mind already for what is going to happen in season 2.
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 3 ай бұрын
Todd said he was very sad 😢
@thebazhammer2610
@thebazhammer2610 3 ай бұрын
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116yeah well he gave us starfield… so he still owes us a lot more
@FineIChangedItYoutubeDontBeMad
@FineIChangedItYoutubeDontBeMad 3 ай бұрын
​@@thebazhammer2610 He can't seem to stop taking L's lately
@Fairenough642
@Fairenough642 3 ай бұрын
He prob said "what's that? Sure whatever."
@White_Tiger93
@White_Tiger93 3 ай бұрын
or could be Bethesda being Bethesda, you know? could have said the show is not canon.. like a spin-off in its own universe, like an alternate timeline where Bethesda soft-reboot the series so all of this would've make sense, in term of their own stupidity. I mean, Fallout 2 has its own stupidity, but.. damn nigga! all of you people really defending this mediocre crap, would be fine if it set in East Coast.
@occularmalice
@occularmalice 3 ай бұрын
Nice catch on her daughter. It's possible she didn't order the nukes. There's the lore that makes it unclear who launched them but it's possible Valt-Tec set things up but maybe a trigger happy operator launched them. In any case Season 2 has been confirmed.
@luciuswhite4502
@luciuswhite4502 3 ай бұрын
I think the visual nod to Dr.Strangelove in the Vault-Tec War Room may imply that despite their plans, something went wrong and the War happened by accident. The next season will probably expand on that pre-War storyline.
@BallPlayer17127
@BallPlayer17127 3 ай бұрын
Didn’t the Mr house say something about not being ready for the nukes? It was prolly planed but since it was kicked off by someone els it would make since that he wasn’t ready, unless I’m misremembering what he said
@moonlightingjam
@moonlightingjam 3 ай бұрын
@@BallPlayer17127 Yeah, the whole plot of FNV revolves around the fact that he was supposed to receive the platinum chip BEFORE the bombs went off.
@modernwarfare134
@modernwarfare134 3 ай бұрын
@@moonlightingjamthat actually seems to cover up a plot hole in house’s plan, he planned the delivery around the plan he was told by vault tec which would explain why he was sure that it would be delivered on time, of course we know it wouldnt arrive until over two centuries later
@Kross415
@Kross415 3 ай бұрын
It could be anything from a misunderstanding with the babysitter (Copper was divorced paying alimony and he took her daughter to work) to Vault-Tec having a Chinese spy inside the company making China decide to rush an attack after learning about V-tech plans.
@jorlandooo_13
@jorlandooo_13 3 ай бұрын
Hi Tim, I love your videos. They are always a great way to spend some time throughout my day
@zvonimirstejskal2252
@zvonimirstejskal2252 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what Maximus's goals really are, or what they were before he decided he wants to live in a vault with Lucy. I wouldn't describe him as kinda selfish, I'd describe him as an evil person. My biggest problem with the show is that on top of that, he is shown to be incompetent as a member of brotherhood yet he just fails upwards for whatever reason.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 2 ай бұрын
His goal was originally to be a knight but that changed when he met Lucy and got his first crush like a total dork but in order to keep her safe he needed to double down with the very brotherhood he was planning on leaving. He isn't evil at all though he is kinda dumb. I get the feeling that by the end of next season Lucy, the ghoul, and maximus are gonna be traveling together like a good old fashioned RPG party on a journey to take down vault tech once and for all.
@TheBreakingBenny
@TheBreakingBenny 2 ай бұрын
@@exilestudios9546 This doesn't make Maximus sympathetic much.
@zvonimirstejskal2252
@zvonimirstejskal2252 2 ай бұрын
@@exilestudios9546 I dom't think he's interested in actualy being a knight, just having knight toys. Also I don't see how a guy who watches a man die just to get a toy is not evil.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 2 ай бұрын
​@@zvonimirstejskal2252when that dude is literally saying "when you do your job and save me I'm going to have you executed" I would say it's 100% fine to watch the fucker die and take his shit. At that point his goal was still to finish the mission assigned to him.
@crissepiroth
@crissepiroth 3 ай бұрын
dude so wholesome and inspiring to see you talk anything game related especially Fallout related
@JD-Media
@JD-Media 3 ай бұрын
It's funny that the Creator of Fallout is now theorizing like a fan about what the lore is.
@8bitchiptune420
@8bitchiptune420 3 ай бұрын
He isn’t involved in the new lore development.
@BanditoGames3
@BanditoGames3 3 ай бұрын
He's what started this series. All the obsidian fanboys are wild. As a NV fan I loved the show. Tim Cain is more based than Sawyer regardless of what you say​@@8bitchiptune420
@pell9538
@pell9538 3 ай бұрын
​​@@8bitchiptune420 Thats why he's theorizing, the comment is mentioning how it's ironic one of the creators is now theorizing like a fan would.
@f.b.l.9813
@f.b.l.9813 3 ай бұрын
because Fallout is no longer in his control, he can just theorize, like, dislike or cope about any lore consistency or inconsistency like the rest of us.
@JD-Media
@JD-Media 3 ай бұрын
@@pell9538Thank you, at least someone gets it.
@cinematicsarcastic
@cinematicsarcastic 3 ай бұрын
Came from Alanah! Loved your review! I wasnt very familiar with the games before watching the series, I have to agree there is a bit of a bump like you mentioned for those of us experiencing this world for the first time! But thankfully I just asked my youtube peeps to point me in the right direction lol. Fallout fans are very helpful, I find!
@voidguardian420
@voidguardian420 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim, I am glad your creation is getting the spotlight it deserves. I appreciate all your work.
@BornToTroll-it5ju
@BornToTroll-it5ju 3 ай бұрын
That line where The Ghoul goes 'you're great but you're not him, DogMeat' when he was reminiscing about the precious dog he used to love cut me up a bit, in a good way. I felt if the show needed more touching moments like that. Mind you, that's not really "Fallout", I know...
@acfan9384
@acfan9384 3 ай бұрын
It had plenty of touching moments in the flashbacks, Lucy thinking about her mother, maximus thinking about shady sands, but yeah that was a great line
@ZiddersRooFurry
@ZiddersRooFurry 3 ай бұрын
Fallout has moments like that. They're just few and far between but they're there. Cogsworth in Fallout 4 being worried about young Sean and still caring about his family. Even though he's programmed to it's still a kind of compassion.
@kreenbopulusmichael7205
@kreenbopulusmichael7205 3 ай бұрын
the show did such a good job at capturing the great and terrible things about humanity, just like the games. a good scene IM glad others noticed aswell
@paybacksuper3670
@paybacksuper3670 3 ай бұрын
​@@ZiddersRooFurry well that game not fallout according to the og fans. lol
@flyk3n
@flyk3n 3 ай бұрын
The very first episode at the birthday party when all the kids went to watch the TV was pretty sad, knowing their happy expressions would soon be juxtaposed with the horrifying scene of a mushroom cloud. The actual dreadfulness and reality of the 2077 war never really set playing though all the games, even 4's intro until they showed that scene in the show of the beginning of the 2 hour end of the world.
@metetural9140
@metetural9140 3 ай бұрын
I agree that Vault Tec didn't start the war but were planning to. Other than Barb sending her daughter to a birthday party when the war was kicking off, Mr. House was at that meeting where Barb announced the plan. In New Vegas, House mentions how he miscalculated and the bombs dropped before he was ready with the laser defence system and the platinum chip. How could he have miscalculated if he was involved with Vault Tec's plan? My bet is that Vault Tec were beaten to the punch, hence why House was caught surprised and Barb's daughter was at the party
@menghao737
@menghao737 3 ай бұрын
The show is literally telling us they did, and that they had the most reasons too as well. They didn't make that investment for nothing! We have to remember that the company was a defense contractor, a part of the military industrial complex, which is what becomes the Enclave. It wasn't just the President and the military brass, House was a member, everyone we see in that room was a member, though apparently there was a disagreement somewhere along the line on when the war should begin, or House in particular was excluded from having that knowledge, but the idea that Barb would have had the authority to delay the timing because of her daughter being at a birthday? We know by that point, Cooper and her were divorced, she might not have even been aware were her daughter was exactly at that time and unable to do anything about it. But the show seems to hint she might have gotten a hold of her somehow. We still have no idea what happened to Barb or to their daughter, only that ghoul Cooper is still looking for the both of them after more than two centuries.
@Clandor
@Clandor 3 ай бұрын
@@menghao737 Ok but why would she even let her daughter go to a birthday party at all if she knew? Even if she was having problems with her husband you think she would do the very minimum of telling him when the nukes were falling to make sure her daughter would be safe? The games also heavily imply that china launched the nukes first so its very possible they were planning on doing it but were beaten to the punch. Also also, they had plenty of unfinished vaults, youd think they would have wanted to have finished them all before launching there nukes. They need all there precious data from there totally moral experiments.
@assassinwolf2719
@assassinwolf2719 3 ай бұрын
@@ClandorSo far we encountered three unfinished vaults in Fallout 4. Vault 114, Vault 118, and Vault 88.
@Otakumanu
@Otakumanu 3 ай бұрын
They weren't planning to start the war, because they had no capability to do so. Their masters in the Enclave probably planned on starting the war once their preparations were complete, but both them were caught by surprise when China started it.
@Otakumanu
@Otakumanu 3 ай бұрын
@@menghao737 The military industrial complex didn't become the Enclave, the Enclave already existed before the war, they were the ones who essentially created Vault-Tec for the sake of performing experiments for their long-term space colonization project. Vault-Tec also didn't start the war, nor did they have any power to do so. Only the Enclave did, but they were beaten to the punch by the chinese, which ruined their plan and allowed for their ultimate defeat in Fallout 2.
@tedpikul1
@tedpikul1 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic discussion, love your insights! Very happy to hear that you're onboard with the show.
@highguysupafly4293
@highguysupafly4293 2 ай бұрын
Just found your channel, thank you for giving us this beautiful franchise
@chaserseven2886
@chaserseven2886 3 ай бұрын
Season two has been announced
@kippgoeden
@kippgoeden 3 ай бұрын
I almost pissed myself laughing at the water guy. Peak Fallout NPC
@thepaintingbanjo8894
@thepaintingbanjo8894 3 ай бұрын
Especially when Lucy kept autistically pointing the gun at him in the beginning while the two were conversing. Like knowing 80% of the time my character and other NPCs casually has their piece out and chatting about what's happening around town.
@bunklypeppz
@bunklypeppz 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate how the show doesn't go out of its way in terms of exposition; it gives you all the information you need as long as you pay attention. It's written in a way that respect the intelligence of the audience, even in the way that the show handles it's comedic elements-- it doesn't go out of its way to tell you that you are supposed to laugh at the moments that are intended to be funny or silly. The brief shot of Lucy and Maximus looking shocked and confused at the fact that they were unharmed after being missed by the gratuitous amount of bullets that had just been shot at them honestly cracked me up.
@themightycrixus1131
@themightycrixus1131 2 ай бұрын
You tell yourself that.
@lloydmartel
@lloydmartel 2 ай бұрын
@@themightycrixus1131 you sure got him there 😒
@JacobYaw
@JacobYaw 3 ай бұрын
Finally finished the show and I am blown away. I cannot wait to see what is next. I adored how they captured the tonal balance so perfectly.
@onesky8647
@onesky8647 3 ай бұрын
*Eric Estrada, yeah, I recognized him as well in episode 7. I was like, wait a minute, I know that guy from CHiPs. 😂👍
@mborel
@mborel 3 ай бұрын
It's Marco from Sealab 2021!
@Parzivle
@Parzivle 3 ай бұрын
@@mboreloh Marco, that mailbox head
@1Draesx
@1Draesx 3 ай бұрын
He's aged well, doesn't look 75 from my perspective.
@xman777b
@xman777b 3 ай бұрын
​@1Draesx he always has
@Klausinator451
@Klausinator451 3 ай бұрын
He's got the strength of FIVE gorillas! ​@@mborel
@jhy8212
@jhy8212 3 ай бұрын
It must be so surreal to watch something you and a team of other great minds created over 25 years ago come to the screen. Tim, I hope you get a cameo in season 2!
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 3 ай бұрын
I hope so too!
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 3 ай бұрын
He needs to play a remnant of The White Glove Society still in the strip 😂
@jhy8212
@jhy8212 3 ай бұрын
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 that would be iconic.
@Mistrinho
@Mistrinho 2 ай бұрын
And while he is watching that, he is probably saying to himself: "Look how they (Turd Coward and Bughtesta) massacred my boy (Interplay's and Obsidian's vision of Fallout universe)." Talk about bastardezing a franchise...
@k_anth
@k_anth 2 ай бұрын
​@@Mistrinho he said he liked it lol. stop coping
@jones81381
@jones81381 3 ай бұрын
Hi, Tim. I didn't realize you had a youtube channel. I'm a long time Fallout fan, since the original game. I know you haven't been involved with the franchise in a long time but I still wanted to thank you for all the work that you did with the IP. The Fallout franchise is one of my favorite game franchises of all time, particularly the pre-Bethesda games, so thank you for helping to create it. On the subject of Vault-Tec dropping the bombs, I totally agree and have been saying basically the same thing. They talked about it, and may have even been planning to, but given that Cooper's wife was on the board deciding that stuff, there's no way she'd have let her daughter be anywhere but with her on the day VT was going to start a nuclear war. Furthermore, there have been unfinished vaults either directly seen or mentioned in terminal entries and such in the games over the years, at least two of them in Fallout 4, which is another piece of evidence that VT didn't drop the first nuke because they weren't yet ready to do it. At this point, we still don't know who launched first. We see the bombs landing in LA which might, at first glance, make it seem like China attacked first, but those could have been retaliatory for the US bombing China first. Unless it was blasted on the news somehow, "THIS JUST IN, WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS HAVE INFORMED US HERE AT THE NEWS STATION THAT WE HAVE LAUNCHED NUKES AT CHINA. HOLD ONTO YOUR BUTTS," your average Joe citizen wouldn't know the US was launching nukes at China.
@kaerdss
@kaerdss 3 ай бұрын
You look great Tim, don’t kid yourself! and shoutout to you for mentioning Nuka Break!
@Psilocervine
@Psilocervine 3 ай бұрын
The thing that got me the most about the show recreating the feeling of the games was that Lucy and Maximus each felt like different takes on how a player character could go through a Fallout game's choices. More than that, however, Maximus really felt like how it felt for me to TRY and play a real jerk of a character only for it to actually be extremely difficult to keep it up without falling into doing the right thing
@JustinShands
@JustinShands 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant observation! That really captures the vibe of Maximus.
@seancarterx
@seancarterx 2 ай бұрын
This is the coolest perspective I’ve seen on a character in the show so far. I am so guilty of doing this when I intend to do low karma runs. Brilliant
@SirJordzy
@SirJordzy 3 ай бұрын
Damn, tim casually dropping that he's the "Hip Hoppopotamus", what's Steve got to do with it?
@CainOnGames
@CainOnGames 3 ай бұрын
Steve!
@smokingwolf4152
@smokingwolf4152 3 ай бұрын
I thought i was crazy when i saw the reference
@Gorvinhagen
@Gorvinhagen 3 ай бұрын
What kind of rapping name is "Steve"!?
@Chorkly
@Chorkly 3 ай бұрын
To be fair, his rhymes are bottomless.
@DullEyes100
@DullEyes100 3 ай бұрын
But I wish he'd be productive with his feedback. Please
@kaminokai
@kaminokai 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for being fun! I loved the show. I enjoyed watching you talk about it. Kudos.
@joseignaciolopez4380
@joseignaciolopez4380 3 ай бұрын
I love the show, but I don't like how the handled the NCR's demise. The show takes place around a decade after New Vegas. Which means that if the NCR is no more, it's renmants would be a bit more civilized and organized than what the show depicts. It's just Fallout 1 all over again, just like they did with Fallout 3.
@redredkrovy
@redredkrovy 3 ай бұрын
It’s funny you mention how much you liked the random encounter with the guy who drunk Lucy’s water. I remember telling my son after that scene was over that I could totally see that scene playing out in the video game. The actor definitely nailed the demeanor and attitude of a Fallout NPC and the dialogue was spot on. Also thank you so much for all of your hard work. Fallout gave me countless hours of fun when I was a teenager and is still my favorite.
@thezeronelite
@thezeronelite 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I felt like it was a bit of a classic 'dumb guy caricature' Then again, Fallout does this often, like with Fantastic in New Vegas
@v44n7
@v44n7 3 ай бұрын
thanks for not shooting at me" got me of guard lol
@bahagharingmatsing
@bahagharingmatsing 3 ай бұрын
Someone mentioned that Lucy keeping her gun pointed at the dude is a hilarious reference in the games where for some reason the player character always has their gun drawn while talking to an NPC. Even if not true (never played Fallout 3 onwards), it’s still a funny scene to watch lol. Ella Purnell is amazing.
@trashboat5388
@trashboat5388 3 ай бұрын
Has "OH YEAH SMELL THAT AIR!" energy.
@linkmaxwell
@linkmaxwell 3 ай бұрын
I felt like he falls into the overlap between Fallout and Borderlands and could work in either franchise.
@NecroFkz
@NecroFkz 3 ай бұрын
Ghoul's wife is not CEO, it's not her decision when to drop bombs. Todd explained that "The Fall of Shady Sands" is not equal to nuking it, two separate events.
@Crudecoronet
@Crudecoronet 3 ай бұрын
Her and Bud were at a high enough level that they would have known most likely.
@NecroFkz
@NecroFkz 3 ай бұрын
@@Crudecoronet look at the top men faces when Putin post-factum announced the attack on Ukraine:)
@Toromboloize
@Toromboloize 3 ай бұрын
I see the Fall akin to the Fall of Rome...Rome kept existing for a while but its impetus and motivation to grow had been lost.
@seraby7151
@seraby7151 3 ай бұрын
​@@Crudecoronet Bud is middle management though, and she might be as well but she answers directly to whoever the real boss is.
@flyk3n
@flyk3n 3 ай бұрын
We see a shadowed figure presumably send her an order when she checks her pip-boy. Assuming it's the Enclave pulling all the strings, she's just following their orders by selling the idea of dropping the nukes first to all the other conglomerate leaders. We know she doesn't have actual complete power to order the nukes herself as even she's keeping appearances to be in good light for securing her and her family into a vault.
@raajaa559
@raajaa559 3 ай бұрын
I'd pay money to hear you ramble Tim. Keep them coming
@coreymckinnon8803
@coreymckinnon8803 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video! This felt like Fallout big time. I loved the subtle easter eggs about the water chip and how it was freaking everyone out when the tech was telling them about it haha. This show really sets the bar very high for future shows and movies revolving around video games.
@windwaker105
@windwaker105 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you will see this but, thank you Tim and your team for Fallout 1. I played it for the first time during the pandemic and I just adored it. One of my most memorable video game moments is when I tried and failed to fix Necropolis’s water pump. And it was heartbreaking because I already knew exactly what the consequences were. So thank you and everyone at Interplay who worked on Fallout 1.
@ladnie9454
@ladnie9454 3 ай бұрын
I think losing the NCR is probably the weirdest part of the show to me. My favorite part of Fallout 2’s setting is that all of the settlements and cities are distinct political groups with their own agendas and the NCR was the coolest one because its agenda was at odds with everyone else’s. Also I don’t buy that it’s just “gone” after a nuke goes off in their capital, my friend thinks they’re hiding but that would be like hiding a state government and it’s entire national guard, it just doesn’t make sense to me that they would lose after losing one city. Maybe if the Legion figured out that they were reeling from a nuke going off and capitalized, but the Boneyard is right next to Arizona so why aren’t they there. I dunno, they didn’t give me a believable reason for the NCR being gone I guess.
@overlordoftemi7255
@overlordoftemi7255 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. In fallout 2 I'm pretty sure they were like 700000ish strong, and I don't doubt they became at least a million strong by new vegas. I feel like the NCR may have RETREATED FROM CALIFORNIA, which I find funny because they're the New CALIFORNIA Republic.
@JeremyZimmerman
@JeremyZimmerman 3 ай бұрын
They aren't gone. That one group got destroyed in the show but as Todd Howard discussed in his interviews the NCR covered a huge area and they're still plenty of people out there.
@BTroit
@BTroit 3 ай бұрын
In the show the sign said it was the "first capital of the NCR". To me that implies that the NCR isn't gone, and is more laying low with smaller scale settlements elsewhere, like you've said.
@overlordoftemi7255
@overlordoftemi7255 3 ай бұрын
definitely not gone (as daddy Howard UwU said). I'm just saying it seems like they may have retreated from California which is funny.
@josecarioca8785
@josecarioca8785 3 ай бұрын
Todd said he doesn't think that's the last we'll see of the NCR. They're probably just not active in the area and might still be going in places like the Hub, Vault City and even San Francisco maybe.
@alor5009
@alor5009 Ай бұрын
Guys! How are we always leaving out Norman! I swear there are really 4 main characters here.
@Nomadnetic
@Nomadnetic 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it Tim, I really liked your point about the unreliable narrator I agree and think they'll probably lean into it more. One of my favorite parts that made me laugh pretty hard was when Thaddeus unloaded his 10mm at Lucy and Maximus and completely missed. Felt like a totally classic fallout moment, he should have put more points into Small Guns.
@SadderCatLin
@SadderCatLin 3 ай бұрын
"popping off the top of my esophagus" I need to use this lmao
@Ryotsu2112
@Ryotsu2112 3 ай бұрын
Look up ‘Flight of the Conchords Hiphopopotamus vs. Rhymenoceros’. It’s from that. You’re welcome for the rabbit hole you are about to experience.
@SadderCatLin
@SadderCatLin 3 ай бұрын
@@Ryotsu2112 thank you, now I have to use sugarlumps as well
@andrewmalcolm79
@andrewmalcolm79 3 ай бұрын
@@Ryotsu2112 Where did you get that preposterous hypothesis?
@NotRandomHero222
@NotRandomHero222 3 ай бұрын
So happy you liked it Tim. I loved seeing you at the event with Todd. Fallout is really being enjoyed by the world now in all it's forms and it started with you. Thank you once more for that world to play around in.
@jackrichardson4089
@jackrichardson4089 3 ай бұрын
Imagine if they'd gone with a different name such as 'Earth A.D.'
@UlyssesM
@UlyssesM 3 ай бұрын
Most sane fallout fan
@Crypted112
@Crypted112 3 ай бұрын
​@@UlyssesMyea literally, because that was a perfectly normal comment
@AlwayzJeremy
@AlwayzJeremy 3 ай бұрын
I like how you said you have to figure the show out. I have never played a fallout game and I immediately wanted to know everything so I bought all the games without looking anything up. The mystery and wanting to know what power armor was is what pulled me in and now I'm obsessed with this world.
@exilestudios9546
@exilestudios9546 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to The fallout family bud, you are in for a wild ride
@danfors1333
@danfors1333 3 ай бұрын
Can't believe I haven't stumbled upon your channel until now. You got very interesting knowledge and content about what's it like being game developer. I learned a lot from each video. It used to be a dream of mine to work within the gaming industry, especially about handling mechanics and user interfaces but I realized very early on that I totally lack the programming talent.
@deepfriedicecream576
@deepfriedicecream576 3 ай бұрын
You know, it's a pretty good feeling to know that Tim Cain and I share similar perspectives and feelings about Fallout, and how he seems to take the thought out of my brain and into youtube videos. Makes me feel good that I am at least on the same page of understanding, with most people I feel. I know I cant be alone in feeling this way
@-whiskey-4134
@-whiskey-4134 3 ай бұрын
This show got my non gamer wife into the Fallout games lmao she’s obsessed with the universe after picking my brain for a bit and wants to experience the series. For me there were so many “I’ve been there” moments like the Yoa Guai going after Titus. I was rolling.
@jakces3810
@jakces3810 3 ай бұрын
that's really cool! one more member to the big Fallout family
@gejnormcswipe8435
@gejnormcswipe8435 3 ай бұрын
Will you attempt to get her into Fallout 1 & 2 as well since they take place where the tv show does? They are old games and take a certain kind of temperament, turn based combat and really high difficulty.. But i feel they are truly worth it. Or are you going only Fallout 3+, the fps games? only New Vegas makes sense with the story besides some story beats for the Brotherhood and i guess the Enclave in 3.
@-whiskey-4134
@-whiskey-4134 3 ай бұрын
@@gejnormcswipe8435 oh yeah. She wants to know how it all began lmao im actually exited. She’s watched me play NV, 3, 4, knows I love the lore, and now after season 1 of the show, she wants to go all the way back. Im starting her off with lore to helo understand the show. We’ll probably go through 1,2, and NV first since those are more relevant rn. Especially the stuff with the water chip and such, so she can understand the references and stuff.
@gejnormcswipe8435
@gejnormcswipe8435 3 ай бұрын
@@-whiskey-4134 Cool! Really great to be able to show off those things one finds special, and Fallout is for sure one of those in my case as well. I'm a bit jealous actually! Hope it all goes well :)
@user-lc5nm7iu8n
@user-lc5nm7iu8n 3 ай бұрын
Boy shes in for a ride
@austinyang3253
@austinyang3253 3 ай бұрын
It'd be extremely hilarious if the NV developers intended for Caeser's Legion to be the canonical ending. lmao
@consciencexp116
@consciencexp116 3 ай бұрын
Hope it is. Chose him because he reminded me of Kurtz, (he was based upon him in both the movie and the novella).
@SteveBMX01
@SteveBMX01 2 ай бұрын
Wow, i just came from a video from a year ago and thank you for the microphone change. A world of a difference.
@NeroMattsss
@NeroMattsss 3 ай бұрын
Love your rambles, Tim! Glad you made this video efficient for people without enough time for the whole video, though!
@D0P3NA5TY
@D0P3NA5TY 3 ай бұрын
It's amazing to see you excited and giddy about the show, regardless of what other people may think about it.
@Kokopelli711
@Kokopelli711 3 ай бұрын
I’m so glad I found your channel! Thank you so much for this world that you created. I still play five of the games to this day. ❤❤❤
@b-mania
@b-mania 3 ай бұрын
After finishing the show I felt compelled to play Fallout 1 again. At 2AM last night my wife was like, "What are you still doing up? It's sleep time!"
@BillyCobbOfficial
@BillyCobbOfficial 3 ай бұрын
There was definitely some exposition, but it's good that they hid it enough for you not to notice. For example, in the first episodes while the brotherhood scribes are in class they talk about the purpose of the brotherhood.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 3 ай бұрын
I agree and I'm dying to rewatch the series with a friend who knows nothing about Fallout, I'm curious to see whether it'll make sense to someone who doesn't know the background...
@mattmac6069
@mattmac6069 3 ай бұрын
Just finished the series with my wife, she didn't even know the Fallout games existed. She had surprisingly little difficulty following the show and even predicted some of the twists I didn't see coming. If anything, I think putting together the world of Fallout from an outside perspective was an even better experience for her, when the Shady Sands/NCR reveal comes she was floored by the revelation that society had been rebuilt, only to be taken back to square 1. The only thing that confused her was when the show took place, for the first few episodes she assumed that the pre-war was meant to be the 1950s and that the series took place in an alternative timeline where the Cold War went hot early on.
@JCTiggs1
@JCTiggs1 3 ай бұрын
Wait is this THE Tim Cain? * reads channel description* You sir are a legend. 😊
@RobotReg
@RobotReg 3 ай бұрын
It is
@TheMrMrjoshtyn
@TheMrMrjoshtyn 3 ай бұрын
I just found his channel too, its so awesome!
@tharfagreinir
@tharfagreinir 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting point about Vault-Tec nuking first. It definitely never says explicitly in the text of the show that they actually did it. I think that's very deliberate on the part of the writers and that they're going to subvert a few expectations in the coming seasons. Also, as someone who only ever played (and loved) Fallout 1 and 2, the show definitely felt like Fallout to me and I'm so happy to see that Tim agrees. Seeing the world come to life like this decades later is thrilling enough for an old fan so I can imagine how exciting and fulfilling it us for Tim.
@thenorfire900
@thenorfire900 3 ай бұрын
Thanks Tim! A breath of fresh air to watch and listen to you. My sister has never played or seen Fallout and told me she loves the show. Has me and some of my group text playing Fallout games again. Got one playing 3, and I picked up on New Vegas cause I get a Gandolf moment here and there when revisiting older games in general. "I have no memory of this place." and having fun! :)
@Commander67
@Commander67 3 ай бұрын
You and your team must be so proud of the work you did that your IP survived to go mainstream idk if it has hit that state yet but that moment when you know they get it and this is amazing must feel so good.
@overlordoftemi7255
@overlordoftemi7255 3 ай бұрын
Oh it's definitely mainstream now! My friends who've never played fallout are actually playing the games (I bought them some) on account of the show! It just goes from big to bigger!
@jorgeloredo100
@jorgeloredo100 3 ай бұрын
People are going to get very mad to this comment but Bethesda also deserves praise because they are the ones that got the franchise back in good tracks. You may not like the new games or direction that the franchise took, but remember that there's a reason why it was sold in the first place.
@juicejooos
@juicejooos 3 ай бұрын
@@jorgeloredo100 People who get mad at that need to get over reality and realize you gotta give credit where it's due. I have a lot of things against Bethesda but I would never disagree that Bethesda gave Fallout the popularity it reached today.
@overlordoftemi7255
@overlordoftemi7255 3 ай бұрын
@@jorgeloredo100 Only the hardcore NV fans have the braindead take of "every bethesda game bad". I think everyone (except for that loud annoying minority), can think of at least SOMETHING they like about each game.
@luisbarragan6495
@luisbarragan6495 3 ай бұрын
brother it's definitely mainstream now and is good. it's a billion dollar IP and success is what keeps things alive you always want things to be successful nothing wrong with it being "mainstream" I welcome all the new fans and love all the games and believe they are all valid 👍 Enjoy
@Hobodeluxe007
@Hobodeluxe007 3 ай бұрын
yeah Erik Estrada and Fred Armisen (as the fiddle obsessed guy) were great cameos.
@xman777b
@xman777b 3 ай бұрын
you're the very first person who's mentioned Erik Estrada. And I've watched tons of videos
@CreatorRob
@CreatorRob 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for making videos like this. My wife and I watched the show and this playlist is huge in filling in lore gaps. I do wish season 2 aligns somewhat to your video on why the vaults were made. Your words on how this isn’t your baby anymore, it’s not anybody’s baby but Bethesda’s, that touched my heart greatly. To be a part of making something so great as Fallout, and instead of coveting it you release it for the world to enjoy and run with. May you live and create forever.
@oldmatttv
@oldmatttv 3 ай бұрын
The thing I think, with that bump there to make it harder to get into it, is that the story itself and Lucy as the main character is sort of us in many ways, bringing us along to "figure it out" just as she needs to (and of course we get more information than she does, but the point is it helps with not feeling quite as lost I reckon, because the main character is right there with you). Thank you for yet another insightful video!
@stairmasternem
@stairmasternem 3 ай бұрын
I think my favorite episode was 4, where Lucy is brought to the Super Duper Mart. A story was being told there and you didn’t have it completely spelled out. The show kept making me go “I would play this game” and that means they did it right. As a fan of the show, I did love how it didn’t over saturate with lore drops. We easily could’ve had the Master and Bone Yard history dropped, but instead they decided to focus on the elements important to telling this season’s story. I’m excited to see what is brought up next season
@connorhillen
@connorhillen 3 ай бұрын
Love it! It really felt like the core pillars, experience promises of Fallout were the pillars in the show, that the player personas were the characters. The emphasis on environmental storytelling. The lack of 'Oh you didn't get the joke? You must not be a fan'-jokes. It felt so *harmonized*. And I've been iffy on modern TV writing lately, and having the dialogue really express the world, factions, and character's traits with every line was a breath of fresh air. Also, so glad to have found your channel through this! I teach game design and just love delving into folks' experience and I'm so ready to deep dive your ramblings :) Really appreciated.
@jerryork
@jerryork 3 ай бұрын
Tim, you are mighty! Thank you for the amazing IP.
@pavelgl5926
@pavelgl5926 3 ай бұрын
Tim, what do you think about the "trivialization" of nuclear bombing in modern Fallout? Post-nuclear settings have always felt "nuclear-free", in which technology has been set back so much that nuclear bombs must seem like just horror stories from the past. But starting with New Vegas, nuclear bombing on populated areas returned to the Fallout setting (yes, I remember that in F1 there was a nuclear warhead, but it was optional and was used against the main villain and his army of mutants). Bethesda even made a nuclear explosion part of the "fun and energetic" Fallout 76 trailer. And now bombs have been dropped in TV show. When you were designing the setting, did you have a goal to highlight the dangers of nuclear weapons and provide some sort of warning? Or was nothing like this planned, and people using atomic weapons against other people AFTER a nuclear war is a natural part of the dark side of the setting (in the style of "humanity will not learn any lessons even after a nuclear war?")?
@devinshipwreck9727
@devinshipwreck9727 3 ай бұрын
I can't wait for season 2! They did such a good job on the show! Thanks for doing these Tim! I always look forward to these videos!
@JoeRowland90
@JoeRowland90 3 ай бұрын
There's beauty in all of this. Now you get to be a fan too. I can only imagine how awesome that is or feels.
@hhectorlector
@hhectorlector 3 ай бұрын
great review, Tim. Would love a 3rd vid on the season if you'd like to do one.
@NJ93
@NJ93 3 ай бұрын
Great as always to hear your thoughts, Tim! So excited that they just confirmed S2 😊
@Blaaaze33
@Blaaaze33 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, Tim for giving us so many great memories and stories that keep on giving!
@DasGewkmiXX
@DasGewkmiXX 3 ай бұрын
How wonderful to hear that you are enjoying it and is excited for more, just like me! Really hits it home to me how much love and respect was put in the show. There are definitely some people online that should take some time and watch this video lol
@Melted-Ether
@Melted-Ether 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been a Fallout fan for almost 20 years now and loved the show. You created a great world, Tim. Thank you
@PaulFurn89
@PaulFurn89 3 ай бұрын
I liked your explanation of the three characters being different ways to approach playing the game. I never thought of it quite like that.
@calebstansbury2150
@calebstansbury2150 3 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone that has been there before explain it. Things have to change a little bit and we have seen lots of controversy about lore changes. I’m guessing they have an idea and kind of knew a season 2 would be coming so they put it in to get ppl talking then it went in the wrong direction so they had to step in and say hey it’s still cannon just wait and you will see how it works out. If there was no season 2 we would need some explaining
@youngrootv
@youngrootv 3 ай бұрын
LOVE the show! Must be insane to see your work come to life like this! My favorite bit was when Lucy and Max were debating on if they should keep the fusion core or leave a whole community to die. Felt like a classic Fallout decision and I’m glad that they had something like that in it!
@bussyhaver
@bussyhaver 3 ай бұрын
fantastic review, really appreciate your explanation about dates!❤
@cubicuboctahedron
@cubicuboctahedron 3 ай бұрын
0:23 Am watching it right now. Will finish this vlog/upload of yours later. 3 episodes in. Enjoying it greatly. If you hadn't mentioned your thoughts about the premiere a few days ago, I would have stayed cynical about things that were "different" from my memories of FO1&2 (mostly stuff about Filly) and not appreciated that other Fallout fans had great input into so many little details in the series. Thank you, Tim.
@captainxcookies9344
@captainxcookies9344 3 ай бұрын
Happy to let you know that as of yesterday season 2 is confirmed by amazon. Although, seeing how much praise it was getting, it seemed inevitable. Glad you liked the show, I do too!
@crunchysalmons
@crunchysalmons 3 ай бұрын
season 2 was greenlit before the show ever aired… that’s why there’s post credit scenes bud
@captainxcookies9344
@captainxcookies9344 3 ай бұрын
@@crunchysalmons It was greenlit before the premiere, but amazon didn't officially confirm that until yesterday on April 18th. Rumor and speculation are encouraging, but confirmation from the studio and distributor itself is better, bud.
@xman777b
@xman777b 3 ай бұрын
​​ lol. Bud..
@RodrigoGazca
@RodrigoGazca 3 ай бұрын
While i was watching the show i was thinking “what Tim thinks about this”, it’s nice to know your in depth review about it, i enjoyed the TV show too.
@garethjohnstone9282
@garethjohnstone9282 23 күн бұрын
Fallout was your baby, dude. To see it elevated to the small screen, recognising your ideas and influences must have felt amazing.
@KegaB3
@KegaB3 3 ай бұрын
The idea that vault tech just said that because it was a contingency and it wasn't actually them was my first initial thought when the show revealed that. I'm so glad that I'm finally seeing someone suggest this in a video, even more glad it's you.
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