Famiclone PAL 50Hz to PAL 60Hz mod

[@RoxyUwUXIII]

Thanks a lot for this tutorial. It worked so great. Now I will play all in his right speeds

[@sergioortega7164]

Thank you soooo much bruv for sharing the video!!!!. Currently working on a spanish Brigmton nasa perfectly. Thank you.

[@МихаилТрубачёв]

It's a shame that the PPU UA6538 chip does not have the ability to switch to 60 Hz, and most of them are found in clones

[@victorgustavorodriguez7249]

hello! this mod is made in Argentina.

[@PablojRomero402]

Hi, your video appear in my recomended feed. A friend and I discovered this mod a few years back, one detail you forgot to mention is that this will not work on all tvs sets. In most the LCD/LED i tested it, it shows weird colour or its just black and white. Also some CRT have problems with this as well.

[@TheMrJamu]

That's the problem with PAL60 mode. At least PAL CRTs (probably modern NTSC CRTs too) are quite tolerant to deviating frequencies. LCD sets have problems. This is due to the fact that the embedded controllers do not "understand" PAL60, as it is not a standard.

[@PablojRomero402]

In my experience it ussually works with sets that support multiple standards. Here in Argentina, there are a lot of those that supports PAL-N (the standard here) PAL-M (Brasil) and NTSC and it ussually works. With older tvs that support only PAL and NTSC, doesnt work at all, unless they have manual vertical adjustment The same happens with really old PAL only tvs. Some guy in Spain also shown that it seems to work on some Plasma monitor. retrogaming.com.ar/forum/viewtopic.php?p=459276#p459276

[@martinromocubero4114]

Thank you bro! Always wanted a correct speed/music for all my NTSC games and with the PAL NES you can't do anything. I bought a Brigtmon DV-72 (Nes clone) only to perform this mod and everything has come to good port, sadly the image quality is not the best, but the difference with the mod is night and day. I only paid 14 € with shipping for it!

[@PaquitoPerezGavido]

Hi, do you know how to do this mod on a famiclon (creation duo) with a umc ua6538 and a umc 6527p?. Thank you.

[@bob.kalpon1398]

I never played video games. But I had to fix a lot of them. Thanks for video. I never did that, but I learned something new today. Good job! Thanks! :-)

[@TheMrJamu]

+Bob. Kalpon Thanks for watching Bob. I just spent a couple of hours watching your vids :D Keep up the good work.

[@dava658]

I managed to put it at 60hz but the image looks bad

[@TheMrJamu]

It's PAL-60. It does not work that well in all displays. Try it on different TV.

[@dava658]

@@TheMrJamu the av image in 60 hz shakes a lot in all the tv that I tried

[@intel386DX]

you have to change the crystal for NTSC colors as well. and the picture will become stable

[@kenjitakeda3126]

¿It is possible to modify a PAL-N famiclone to NTSC using CPU-PPU and a 60hz crystal oscillator?

[@expolyl1724]

Noooooo lineas verticales de fondo... yo no las soportaba... ¿sabes si hay alguna solución para quitarlas?

[@MarianoBond]

Hi, can I get 60 hz only without soldering? Lifting the pin I mean

[@TheMrJamu]

In short - No, you can't.

[@MarianoBond]

@@TheMrJamu I suppose the 5v overclock it then... Thank you for your answer!! Changing the PPU/CPU for NTSC ones would do the trick?

[@TheMrJamu]

@@MarianoBond I haven't tested that method so I can't 100% guarantee that it works. I've heard that it works but I have no personal experience of swapping the chips to NTSC ones.

[@AliceSim1]

YES! my famiclone NASA NS-81 is TA-02NP TA-03NP1 chipset (PAL)

[@johneygd]

Would be great to increase my pal. Nes to the supposedly intended 60hz speed. And visa versa.

[@martinromocubero4114]

One strange thing, just in case you have any idea. My famiclone (Brigtmon dv-72) had the voltage regulator fried, I put a 7506 and also a new capacitor that was blown. Once I have done the 50-60hz mod I notified the "voiced" sounds like "FIRE!" in Wild Gunman or the "Hey" "Yo" samples on The adventures of Bayou Billy were not sounding right, they are high pitch noises or they will directly not play. It's not a random issue, it sounds OK on the rest of channels, but it seems that these "PCM" samples are not going to play on my console. Do you know if this is a common issue in some famiclones or provoked by the 50-60 mod? Thanks!!

[@TheMrJamu]

This console also had the blown voltage regulator :) Thanks for the info. I will test those games. You tried the US versions?

[@martinromocubero4114]

@@TheMrJamu Yeah, exactly. They come in the "famous" PocketNes 150in 1 :) Thanks!!

[@fernandovalladares6701]

Hello!, if the mod are correct and the crt tv shows black screen but i hear the music at correct speed that is maybe the crt is not working with the mod and i need to try another crt tv?

[@TheMrJamu]

There are crt sets that can’t handle PAL60.

[@fernandovalladares6701]

My fault, it works, wrong or bad rca conector , thanks!

[@magnus87]

How to reduce jailbars in this model ?

[@TheMrJamu]

You can probably use the same tricks as with the original Famicom. So placing a capacitor between the pins 22 and 20 might help a bit. I might try some experiments later.

[@claimhsolais3466]

Hello there @TheMr Jamu. Have you tried that method to other famicom clones? Or is it only compatible with specific Dendy clones? Thank you!

[@TheMrJamu]

Yes, It was one of those grey coloured and with original Famicom looks. Most clones that were made before late nineties can be modded with this method - if equipped with same chips as seen in this video.

[@claimhsolais3466]

Thank you so much for your reply friend. There's very little information on the subject online, and your work is literally lifesaving for so many people. I hope you'll continue your great projects, and if possible to do a more explanatory video on modding other PAL famicom clones to 60hz. Be well!

[@marchomsguirao5277]

Just as someone said, i've got a creation famiclone with just the same pcb as yours but the ppu is ta-02np not ta-02npb and the mod didn't work. i tried with pin 16 and i also get switched colours in super mario bros. trying also with pin 17 doesnt change anything and with pin 15 i think it didn't work. any idea? Thanks for the video

[@denjighostchannel]

I did with that same chip. It wroked.

[@SydSystem]

Hi bro, I just did the same to my Creation (exactly, the same nes clone as you) and the only result that I get is a color swap in Mario, it seems that does not affect the machine. Also chips are the same as yours. Is there another way to make the mod? thanks!

[@TheMrJamu]

Well, you can swap the chips and crystal from NTSC NES - but that's not an option for most of us. Sorry, I don't know any other ways.

[@SydSystem]

I've seen some cheap clone chips in aliexpress which are the same as the ntsc nes. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for your reply ;)

[@JP_Albuquerque_]

I try that mod with the exact same console, but mine don't turn on when i connect the 16 pin with the 40 pin....any help?? I just noticed my PPU model said 9250 and your is 9232 ...is the the reason??

[@TheMrJamu]

It should work. Try taking the 5V straight from the 7805 voltage regulator.

[@JP_Albuquerque_]

I just noticed that in my board from pin 14 to 17 are all ground in PPU socket, should it be just pin 20? Because i'm getting 5V from pin 40, but when I inject to pin 16 my console dont turn On and i'm scare of blowing my PPU :S Thanks for replying ;)

[@JP_Albuquerque_]

well I just tried to take the 5V from de voltage regulator and is the same....wont turn On...i guess I'm stuck with 50HZ :(

[@JP_Albuquerque_]

Maybe I'm doing it wrong...you put a switch and i see you inject the 5v on the board, not directly to the 16 pin, is that make any difference?

[@TheMrJamu]

The only reason for that switch is to enable 50Hz/60Hz to be selectable. So you don't actually need the switch at all if you prefer to have your console in PAL60 mode all the time. Sorry, I don't think that I am able to help you here. When I'll have some spare time I'll check my own console and see if there is true NTSC mode available etc...

[@TodoVicioCRT]

Yo tengo la misma nasa pero tiene otros modelos de chip TA-02NPN sabes si funciona

[@TheMrJamu]

I really don't know. I only have this version of TA-02Nxx chip. You can always try but don't blame me if you end up frying the chip.

[@Kippykip]

Wow, wish I could do this on my real NES.

[@محمدمحمود-ر8ف8ف]

This Isn't PAL 60Hz That NTSC 60Hz

[@TheMrJamu]

You are mistaken, my friend. This is still a PAL signal, retaining its 4.43 MHz color subcarrier and all other standard PAL characteristics. The only modification is that it runs at 60 Hz instead of the usual 50 Hz, which is why it's commonly referred to as PAL60. It’s not a true NTSC signal, as the color subcarrier frequency is not 3.58 MHz. Essentially, it's a standard PAL signal that has been sped up to support 60 frames per second for smoother gameplay.

[@vagats]

Toivottavasti Google käännetty hyvin. Yllättäen arvasit oikein? Emme yritä löytää toinen hyppääjä muuntaa NTSC?

[@TheMrJamu]

Yes. If you lift the pin 16 and connect it to 5V then it's PAL60. You can't get the real NTSC out of this but PAL60 is possible with this trick.

[@TheMrJamu]

These "Dendy" clones were quite popular in russia?

[@vagats]

Some of famiclone consoles have 2 or 3 jumpers which allow to switch console to NTSC with crystal change. Maybe this chip has such option

[@vagats]

I am from Ukraine, but Yes it is very popular in ex USSR terretory.

[@vagats]

In my opinion marks NP on chips means NTSC PAL. I lifted the 17 pin and connect it to 5v. Screen started to blinked. And my tunner recognized it as NTSC. But when I changed the crystal. I got monochrome screen. I think it needs one more jumper as i got in other famiclone - three jumpers to got full NTSC. But I didnt find it, need some research more

[@Alnaman3]

Gracias!

[@joseramonvargas4680]

buenas cuando no dan video q puede ser

[@IceDaemon]

Operation successful \o/

[@TheMrJamu]

+Ice Daemon Yayyyyyy!

[@joseemilio5502]

Yo lo del mod de los 50 hz / 60 hz en una Creation con el mismo CPU y PPU que en tu video me funciono de maravilla pero sin embargo fui a intentarlo en mi otra clonica que tiene CPU : UA6527P y PPU: UA6538 y no ha habido forma de hacerlo funcionar, si sabeis de alguna XD

[@neuro-chip80schanel48]

Jose emilio . Yo también estoy intentando pero no funciona tampoco

[@basshead.]

silky smooth 60fps

[@fabiansosa756]

El problema que he presenciado. En persona. Es que sobre calientan componentes internos del mismo tv. He probando en distintos tv. Y en algunos luego de unos pasan de verse bien . A verse muy mala calidad la imagen son color y provocando un desbalanceado de fósforo . Es decir manchan la pantalla . Lo mal interprenran. Lo que recomiendo . No hacerlo. Ya que dañan la consola. Y dañan el tv

[@TheMrJamu]

Are you sure those televisions didn't die of old age? Over the decades, I've run PAL televisions at 60 Hz (RGB) as well as in PAL60 mode and haven't encountered the issues you described. I also want to remind everyone that you do all the modifications you see on my channel at your own risk.

[@SaturnHST]

I have a NASA clone with UMC CPU and PPU. I desoldered the CPU, PPU and crystal oscillator of a NTSC-U NES and swapped them into the NASA. Now it is NTSC 60Hz and works on my US tv's. No more slow 50Hz. www.obscuregamers.com/threads/nasa-creation-nes-clones-pal-50hz-to-ntsc-60hz.750/