Family says Glendale PD jailed grandpa with dementia

[@ghostwriter720]

this is the city where the officer tazed the one guy 15 times including in the testicals.... are we supposed to be surprised they do not know how to handle mental problems

[@vast_diff]

Probably deserve that taxes tbh

[@robertbunch7829]

I don't know how low they can go when they hire these sociopaths but they ain't hit bottom yet !!!!

[@latanyafisher3580]

Greetings. These thugs in blue are the ones with mental problems

[@leeroberts925]

To protect and to serve? WHO THEY SAY THE COMMUNITY?? SERVE HOW??

[@paulettebarrow9791]

@HOST ,I REMEMBER THAT VID, I COULDNT BELIEVE WHAT I WAS SEIING, THATS ONE SICK COP THAT SHOULD BE FIRED AND NEVER WORK AS A COP OR SECUIRTY AGAIN

[@trulysurprised-bk7cy]

My mom had Alzheimers. People just don't understand. The patient isn't giving you a hard time, they are HAVING a hard time 😓

[@flibbinflah22]

My mum had dementia, I could not have put it better than you have. Thank you.

[@gmpick9793]

Did you let your mom wonder around in a shopping center? With a diaper on?

[@trulysurprised-bk7cy]

@@gmpick9793 never

[@lordshango4184]

truly surprised, well said!!🙏

[@cygnevara8400]

do u leave your mom unattended...if you don't then its likely u dont have to worry about her being arrested

[@bobbyhousley9877]

They said he had to learn. You can't learn when you have alzheimers.

[@terri2058]

The daughters do though.

[@dushooter]

These cops are true elder abusers....

[@kathywedzik4905]

He should be under 24 hour care, for some reason his family don't see it, and this is the result.

[@Lovely_1One]

Those cops are 🥴 just LOVE to do things like this and go overboard! They could CLEARLY see he’s elderly and probably has some dementia and Alzheimer’s! Just shameful! Karma to them all! Should have called a PSYCHIATRIST! The business owner wants to be covered! Why didn’t they call his family. I hope the residents BOYCOTT that entire business district. stupid and overboard! SMH always make vile people feel it in their pockets!

[@chamonix2602]

Dementia...slight difference.

[@eileenrice8775]

I have no words for this. Mocking him, cuffing him, showing absolutely no compassion. What is wrong with our society?

[@tamaramadison7563]

This is so sad they mocked him and the arrested him.The police their ass need to be Jail

[@jonathanhernandez4304]

I agree. But, you're not going to fix the stupidity and self interest of most people like this. But, you can show love to the person with dementia by putting up barriers where there is a family member or family friend always with the affected love one, protecting them from themselves and others. See my main post. And, there is no such thing as, we're to busy. That's like leaving your child abandoned for the same reason. Really, We protected our mom through all this by making life changes in our lives to be there and protect her from such potential moments. That was in our power and ability to keep mom safe; not changing stupid people. We just can't change or fix stupid and still have a full time job. Complaining about fools didn't help mom. Us being there did.

[@2bigbufords]

the cops here are animals

[@rosemariemerzlak3856]

Crooked cops

[@jwells3315]

It's not " society" its THUG POLICING!

[@pshaw8406]

"He's going to have to learn some how" He literally can't learn. Why is it so hard for presumably competent adults to understand that his mind doesn't function anymore.

[@ciaranofarrell4010]

Yeah I am literally laughing at those officers. They are the real brain dead dumbasses in this story.... not a functional brain cell between the lot of them.

[@asurasyn]

If they were competent, they wouldn't be cops.

[@jonm2416]

Exactly. You would think someone who qualifies as a police officer would have basic common sense

[@3rdreichball525]

The problem with american police is they use jail for every freaking thing. The police can sit here and justify taking harmless people to jail when thats not why jail was created in America at all. Back in the cowboy days jail was used properly. It was used to protect the public until the violent outlaws could see a judge, or get hanged. Nowadays they use jails for every unnecessary infraction. My point is maybe if the police would just start handing out tickets, and say go to court instead of using jail as punishment things would be different.

[@ldld64]

Because they aren't educated about this disease, so it makes them ignorant to it.

[@adamfurtaw915]

If these cops are acting according to "policy", then we need to jail whoever wrote said "policy".

[@melissaharmon3808]

Amen to that!

[@Ryder0910]

Not all of that cops were at the jail it showed 2 making fun of him plus dementia isn’t a excuse for trespassing if some one was lerking on your yard you would want police there

[@julesvee1803]

@Adam Furtaw. I literally cracked up. You killed this with the nail.

[@FingerinUrDaughter]

you say that now, but when some 90 year old man with dementia pulls up beside you on the road and unloads an assault rifle into your car cause hes too insane to be allowed out of a mental hospital, youll be begging for him to get death.

[@eilenekellogg7017]

Rudy don't be a ass! The old guy didn't think he was doing anything wrong. Chances are his family is coming him ,but not caring for him. Using his SS and pention for their own use, that's why their not putting him in a nursing home ,or in care at home. This happens all to often.Someone should investigate!

[@rastaz357]

"I don't care if you're old" thats said it all. These are the kind of people being hired as LEOs. Wonder how he would feel too hear someone say such to one of his parents.

[@gimmeabreak7531]

More likely they would be hollering "Soooweeee!!" at his parents.

[@damonvaux9109]

When the only tool you have is a hammer. Every problem looks like a nail...

[@87clits]

It's a complex issue.

[@leoross5777]

maim them

[@garfe5555]

I lol'd when he said that

[@louisax4058]

Having worked in a care facility for persons with dementia, the first meeting with the family is the most difficult. It's very hard to acknowledge that your relative that you love so much can no longer be by himself without supervision. I really hope Sam get the help he needs.

[@mandyellis876]

But he WAS being ‘supervised’ by his ‘friends’!! It’s they who assume responsibility for Sam if he’s in their company!

[@brettk9316]

Told an old man with dementia to not come back and think he would remember :P

[@pattijesinoski1958]

His daughter should know this. She is committing elder abuse by allowing her father to wander outside the house alone. Fortunately, the judge has ordered a mental evaluation.

[@westypoprocks772]

Remember what?

[@oxyfee6486]

Our opinion is not popular,however my mother has the beginning signs of Alzheimer’s,this family has no business at this point allowing him to wander alone.

[@robjohnson8522]

@joe p cally I will bet you money she is getting money from the state to be his "caregiver" but not doing the job.

[@hueylongadmirer1829]

Was that old man Joe Biden?

[@SeahawkKrakenguy]

This is so heartbreaking 💔. I worked as a security guard at a hospital for 8 years. One night a 'Code Grey' was announced over the PA for a patient with dementia that had left his room. When I caught up with him, he turned around and punched me in the chest and then in the face. I declined to file charges because it was clear he did not know where he was or what he was doing. I felt if he went to jail, it would've made his situation even worse. Unfortunately for me, I developed neck problems which I'm still dealing with today. But I dont regret how I reacted, that poor man needed help, not jail.

[@michelejohnson1001]

👍

[@brooklynnewyork5437]

Because you're a good man...PERIOD!

[@LORMZ0918]

bless your heart ❤️

[@noregrets1855]

As an EAGLES fan, all you're gonna get from me is, "glad you done the right thing." Just playing, all jokes aside, I hope you'll soon be able to recover from your injury. Also, I'm glad you didn't take that personal, jail would had definitely made things worse for him and his family. 👍✌✌

[@user-in8xx1xu5b]

You can still sue the hospital for your injuries, he doesn’t have to go to jail

[@Jen-X333]

He clearly needs around the clock care to ensure he’s not wandering around. He could get lost and/or endanger himself. I don’t think he should have been arrested.

[@carlopereira7464]

of course he shouldn't of been treated that way and arrested. Sure! He shouldn't be out on the streets in that condition but we pay these cowards to serve and protect They are supposed to be fully trained!! in how to deal with people especially an old man that's mentally unstable. There is not one excuse for this!!!

[@deborahkrewson7741]

Family needs to keep a 24/7 eye on him. This senior doesn’t know what he’s doing. I feel bad for him, it’s a terrible way to spend your last years of life. He needs to be kept monitored at all times. I don’t understand why he’s left to wonder on his own.

[@deborahkrewson7741]

Thank

[@Star-ze6yl]

Honestly their nurses they have have money. Their should be laws against that. Because their mental is even more impared than a childs they should get negligence against an adult.

[@ingamingpc1634]

​@@carlopereira7464 Police are not trained to deal with the mentally ill we've had hospitals fully trained and even asylums to treat this problem thanks to bad political decisions we had many mental hospitals and asylum's closed and many of those services that were available to the people canceled and even now 61 years after this happened we're still dealing with what's going on right now I'm sorry but the police are not at fault for this it's the family they should be making sure their father does not wander He's putting himself and other people in danger what happens if you wanders in front of a car when it's driving since people dementia do not understand and because they do not understand they cannot respect the laws of the road so they'll put themselves in danger Not only that they don't respect people's personal space they might end up meeting someone who might punch them I'm sorry but you know it's true and I know it's true Not only that this man has already started to smear crap all over the bathroom because of his problems with using the bathroom That's a biological hazard we should have behavioral units dedicated to the mentally ill to help them and to give them resources but because our states don't want to sacrifice resources towards that we're stuck with this Don't go blaming the cops blame the people you vote into power and also blame yourself when you don't do enough studying on the people you vote for

[@johnramos8857]

I would never leave my Dad with dementia out of my sight. It is the family's responsability to take care of their elders!!!

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

exactly right! and everyone blaming the police, the food store and the donut place where he smeared POOP on its WALLS!! its the familys job to supervise him or place him in a care home.

[@hugostiglitz5976]

WRONG! That’s like saying it’s their responsibility to take care of their kids, when it’s the government’s responsibility. If they can expect the public school system to raise their kids, the cops should have to babysit gramps. Why should they have to burden themselves when, for him, they probably only get half the money the state gives them for dependents.

[@Violet-im6ek8pf9o]

An elderly person with dementia shouldn't be alone. It's as if they regress to being a toddler. I hope this elder sees better days. So sad.

[@Ron-gr5sy]

This is the same thing I said about that 73 year old woman. These people children shouldn't allow their elderly parents out by themselves.

[@Wizznilliam]

I was kinda wondering the same thing. Police should not be being rough with them for sure. At the same time though it seems dangerous for them that they are wandering the street not understanding things. Again, that danger should NOT come from the police though.

[@tinasan3870]

Not everyone with dementia has someone with them at ALL times. Not everyone can afford 24-hour care ....There's an old Lady in my neighborhood who gets out and walks around.....It's easy to criticize when you are not in that situation.......

[@Wizznilliam]

@@tinasan3870 That's true. It has to be tough. And expensive.

[@Ron-gr5sy]

@@tinasan3870 well then they need to be in a home. We can't have these people being mistreated. Cops keep this up somebody will die needlessly. Old people have a hard time being old. Like the song says. We all need somebody to lean on.

[@bobsum1745]

Sam should be happy they didn't break his arms, you know, pop, and done. They like to do this to elderly.

[@laurielewis2745]

Yes, he was treated well compared to Karen in Loveland. Ha. Loveland: what a misnomer 🙄

[@mccabeianenator]

THEY have collapsed the Trust- Why waste an opportunity to make money from YOUR public-servants and trustees? Because the police officers were under orders from their chief CARL POVILAITIS to do what they did to Sam Thomas (81) then CARL POVILAITIS is also with liability for the injury-damage-loss-harm that occurred. If the police officers were NOT under orders from CARL POVILAITIS, then they were acting rogue. If the police officers were rogue, then CARL POVILAITIS is with the liability through failure and negligence for allowing people to impersonate police officers and act under colour-of-law. Mayor JERRY P. WEIERS is also with liability because he is an employee/agent of the city of GLENDALE and notice-to-principal-is-notice-to-agent and also through JOINDER. The directorSHIPS of TAIT DEVELOPEMENT- DAVID JOHNSON and LAURIE SMITH and WILLIAM TAIT are also liable through adhesion contract (JOINDER) The directorSHIPS of INSPIRE BRANDS(owners of Dunkin Donuts)- BRIAN LOEW and BETA MCNAUGHTON and MICHAEL SCHWIEN and ANTHONY SHEETZ and HILLARY KUHL and JOHN HERVEY and RICHARD TSAI are also with liability through adhesion contract(JOINDER) Please think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man....NOT the victim, when dealing with public-servants and trustees....because there is nothing wrong with any system, is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit? PS- As to whether you wish to frequent the businesses that treat elderly people with such a cruel intention is entirely up to YOU.

[@angelrose503]

Sooo the 2nd elderly person with dementia to be put in jail this is crazy

[@jewelsog423]

PLUS MOCKING HIM JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH KAREN THEY SHOULD BE FIRED !!!

[@realsocrates5272]

Got nothing better to do but oppressing citizens

[@Yaksonator]

We’re just now shedding light on this issue. I’m sure this happens everyday and probably even worse outcomes.

[@lisagrafton2529]

And, I think it was the chief speaking, said they may "have to " cite him or arrest him again, if he "breaks any laws it continues to go to the Dunkin donuts. I guess he didn't get the message. He's not competent! It's people like that that deserve to have their family members treated badly. See how they'd feel if their dementia riddled parent got arrested and laughed at.

[@slicksnewonenow]

As stated below, this type of incident happens every day.

[@InvictumLupus]

The family needs to provide 24hr care. If he is constantly walking out of the house, without them knowing, that’s a huge problem they need to address. They need to consider a group home if they are not equipped to take care of him.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

exactly right; its the FAMILYS responsibility

[@SargeantPhillips-ug5zw]

Remember we all gotta get old one day including you and them mocking him soiling himself is not funny but these are so call cops......yeah ok .....should the family look out for him more yes buts its nothing funny for a cop to mock and laugh at.

[@anitainmo489]

OMG, this could be any ones's father or grandfather. I lost my dad in 2003 and I miss him so very much. How can they put him in jail and then laugh at him? He is 81 and has dementia, when did we become so cruel? Please be kind.

[@lisadavenport476]

Now an agency for the elderly will put him in a nursing home, the caregiver should admit fault also.

[@Scepticalasfuk]

@@lisadavenport476 Blame the victims.

[@mattcombs8778]

These cops "get off" on being bullies. Something is wrong with them.

[@mccabeianenator]

THEY have collapsed the Trust- Why waste an opportunity to make money from YOUR public-servants and trustees? Because the police officers were under orders from their chief CARL POVILAITIS to do what they did to Sam Thomas (81) then CARL POVILAITIS is also with liability for the injury-damage-loss-harm that occurred. If the police officers were NOT under orders from CARL POVILAITIS, then they were acting rogue. If the police officers were rogue, then CARL POVILAITIS is with the liability through failure and negligence for allowing people to impersonate police officers and act under colour-of-law. Mayor JERRY P. WEIERS is also with liability because he is an employee/agent of the city of GLENDALE and notice-to-principal-is-notice-to-agent and also through JOINDER. The directorSHIPS of TAIT DEVELOPEMENT- DAVID JOHNSON and LAURIE SMITH and WILLIAM TAIT are also liable through adhesion contract (JOINDER) The directorSHIPS of INSPIRE BRANDS (owners of Dunkin Donuts)- BRIAN LOEW and BETA MCNAUGHTON and MICHAEL SCHWIEN and ANTHONY SHEETZ and HILLARY KUHL and JOHN HERVEY and RICHARD TSAI are also with liability through adhesion contract (JOINDER) Please think (and act) like the BUSINESS-man....NOT the victim, when dealing with public-servants and trustees....because there is nothing wrong with any system, is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit? PS- As to whether you wish to frequent the businesses that treat elderly people with such a cruel intention is entirely up to YOU.

[@dushooter]

These cops have no sense of decency. Need to have them fired. That is the only thing they understand. When they have family members that come down with dementia, then their lousy attitude will change.

[@pegs1659]

Thats so sad. Poor ol guy. His daughters need to keep tabs on him. I know its got to hard for them but if they can't keep him home and safe then he needs a place that can.

[@Scepticalasfuk]

One would think his community would be a safe place, it should be. It would be if we had cops with a bit of compassion and an nanogram of common sense.

[@BarryJSilva]

Everyone is getting older and people need to understand it's going to happen to them.

[@justmejustme1176]

Yes. My 81 year old grandfather with dementia is in the hospital right now after having a hip surgery. He's fighting, cussing, hitting, and I thank God that it's the nurses that have him and not cops. These nurses are hero's!

[@simon6071]

Did the Glendale police officer who put this old man with dementia in jail instead of putting him in a nursing home plead not guilty of false imprisonment by reason of insanity?

[@dbdgirl-o3i]

Dementia isn't a 100% guarantee you or everyone will get it. It is genetical-based to an extent but most people get by having a stroke or some other serious head trauma.

[@saragrandma9592]

Are you freaking kidding me. I agree , SHAME ON EVERYONE WHO WERE APART OF THIS.

[@wjadam815]

Crimes are crimes. Peroid. It's always the same story, had this mans family gotten him the help he needs, this never would have happened. Don't blame the police when they handle your problems because f***ing you wont. Shame on you for knowing nothing.

[@bernita88chaser80]

they are pathetic officers an humans shameful how they act terrible coming from the so call greatest

[@kyleknoernschild6348]

and what did I just heard officer Baumann laugh when officer bastin said that sam smeared all over Dunkin donuts walls

[@pamelameltonhuff583]

Saying shame on them is to Pansy these cops need to be in prison for the rest of their life evidently this didn't happen in Texas because of it did I know what would happen to those cops they need to be in prison

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

especially the family, its THEIR job to supervise him, NOT the food store, NOT the restaurant, and NOT the police.

[@kanashamyers2821]

It's just amazing to me how people can look at the elderly who is suffering from Dementia or Alzheimer's has if they are a disease. Until they witness it firsthand of a loved one that is deteriorating and front of their eyes only then will they realize how foolish/ selfish they have been.

[@cygnevara8400]

i dont think the issue is the dementia, the BIGGER issue is "IF" he allegedly had dementia, he has no guardian or nurse. If he was left unattended, that person responsible should face criminal charges for endangering this old mans life.

[@Raesling1]

@@cygnevara8400 I admit, I was wondering how he keeps escaping for the whole day. I think filing criminal charges against his daughter is a little extreme, though.

[@robjohnson8522]

@@cygnevara8400 THANK YOU! I can't believe how many people here are mad at the police instead of the people who keep letting him wander the streets at will.

[@robjohnson8522]

@@Raesling1 " I think filing criminal charges against his daughter is a little extreme, though." They introduced her as his "caregiver" I have a $100 bill that says she gets taxpayer money to be his "caregiver". If so she should be charged with neglect and elder abuse!

[@jennifercox1935]

It's sad how ppl get treated now days

[@brianreid751]

See if the cops like it if one of their parents gets arrested for having dementia when their Sam's age ? Laughing at an old man when he can't control his bowels .

[@realsocrates5272]

Bet they don't have families, not even wives ..... replaced all for battery-operated toys

[@SisterKnight]

See if the cops like it when the one day get dementia and is treated worse... we are on our way to worse behavior.

[@realsocrates5272]

@@SisterKnight Babe, COPS don't get dementia, they die in dark places of loneliness

[@pattihainline1573]

Yeah well if they don't die young everyone gets old! Shame on everyone involved even the daughter ranting & raveing where the h€££ was she that she didn't take him? 😵😵😵😵😵😵 and that business FU for not treating elderly with respect! Yeah it's tough! But it's tough getting old & no-one helps! Not to mention those rotten cop's who will be old themselves 1 day! If someone doesn't shoot them first because of their rotten attitudes! 😠😠😠😡😡😡

[@zealot777]

Deplorable treatment of a senior citizen.

[@jggrimm]

five months to dismiss all charges. Who has the dementia?

[@patrickmoylan5983]

The family should be arrested for not taking care of him.

[@Hey_its_Koda]

This is nuts. Im sick of people abusing the elderly. Shame on them. Just grabbing them like that leaves deep bruising. Dementia needs to be addressed.

[@marilynmitchell7394]

Police stupidity needs to be addressed.

[@butwhole4186]

@@marilynmitchell7394 You can't teach people to care.

[@babydriver8134]

The old man needs a CONSTANT companion. Maybe the family should step up?

[@guynorth3277]

@@butwhole4186; You can expect them to do their job properly.

[@lisadavenport476]

Some elderly people have such delicate skin if your not careful you can literally tear their skin! Stupid ass wipes

[@TheTwinn]

I worked in a secure dementia ward for years. This breaks my heart. The community needs to come together and have understanding for this terrible disease, not call the cops on him. Jesus, it’s one thing that connects him to the life that he can remember and people are going to take that away because it makes them uncomfortable. Truly boggles the mind, that poor poor bloke.

[@RyuuOujiXS]

Blame the people that allowed him to roam society with dimentia

[@ingamingpc1634]

​@@RyuuOujiXS true

[@ingamingpc1634]

I hate to play The Devil's Advocate but his family is to blame you shouldn't allow your family member to wander with dementia he shouldn't be putting himself in dangerous situations like this plus he can't even control himself when it comes to using the bathroom he's using diapers I'm sorry but at this point what happens if you wanders out into the stream gets hit by a car your rights and where my nose begins and I'm not going to deal with potentially injuring someone because they wandered out into the street because they suffer from dementia and equally Society doesn't have to deal with someone who could be a danger to others or danger to themselves because they don't know what's going on anymore we need to take care of these people but at the same time we shouldn't be violating people's property or personal space

[@oceaneo4603]

@@ingamingpc1634 Absolutely ! It reminds me of parents letting they kids roam free and missbehave in public, while doing nothing. And the coffe shop is not obligated to call the family everytime this old man caused an incident. I believe they got fed up, and could have worn the familu about it. At then end of the day, this old man suffered neglect from the police and from his family as well.

[@marksamuelsen3202]

I’m a 69yo disabled veteran living in NYC and I feel the onset of dementia already. It’s very disconcerting that I understand what’s happening to me and seeing this video scares me a lot . I would hate that somewhere down the road I go through this with an inconsiderate criminal cop who could do this.

[@Pavia1525]

Dementia? Hope not. Have you done anything crazy… like vote Democrat?

[@gha5243]

Hopefully you don't have family and caregivers that allow you to put yourself in such a situation... Not the "criminal cops fault"... You think they have a full medical record for the guy? Give me a break. He isn't allowed there. End of story. The employees etc. should not have to deal with him

[@CAPTINjacksparrow]

Sending you love

[@kimchigamez1394]

@@gha5243 Dude, show some compassion .

[@RyuuOujiXS]

@@kimchigamez1394 Or you can grow up and grow a brain. Compassion is for babies, you little baby

[@gregkasza1925]

The blue line saved the community again! Thanks for keeping us all safe!

[@chrissie7323]

Yes all but that poor old man who got thrown in a cell and laughed at - probably totally confused as to what what happening to him.

[@lowercherty]

I know this soundscrass, but I can't think of any other analogy. I've lost a mother, a sister, and many others to Alzheimers. Arresting this guy repeatedly to "teach him a lesson" is about as effective as arresting a dog or cat for showing up every day.

[@cutigerjames9931]

Well cops are kinda dumb.

[@generalbiochemistryi8498]

The police only have arrest at their disposal. They did notify adult services. This is what they are able to do when a complaint is filed. The family needs to step in and do something.

[@tonyrains217]

What is the family doing about it? Why are the police taking the blame because the family can't supervise an adult wearing a diaper who has dementia?

[@mercedesb2299]

@@generalbiochemistryi8498 That is simply not true, at least not here in Arizona. The officers have a lot of leeway to use their discretion in almost any situation. They can and do give people courtesy rides home all the time.

[@generalbiochemistryi8498]

@@mercedesb2299 Yes but if they have taken him home over and over and the family is not doing anything to stop it eventually they will do something drastic to bring it to a head. Police officers are not supposed to be counselors or baby sitters.

[@felixcoqui]

It's incredible how trained officers escalate a situation with an unarmed sick old man. Incompetence.

[@michaelcallahan3002]

Incompetent hugs and bullies.

[@bobdermott6446]

It is just a fact of life,America has a terrible reputation when it comes to the elderly, and the part of this I don't understand is that Congress is made up of old farts in their 70,80 & 90tys go figure!!!! If you think I am making this up check it out!!!!! 😏🙄😯🤔🤐👍

[@dushooter]

They were trying in how to use badge heavy policing. If these pos cops had the chance they would try to kill this poor man by leaving him in a jail cell un attended ...

[@carl112466]

Leave it the pig police to make everything worse.

[@happyinparis]

Worse. It's evil. There is no humanity in them.

[@tamtheman2099]

despite having a conversation about his dementia the cops claim they did not know he is diagnosed with dementia, obviously Sam is not the only one with this horrible disease

[@RevWarRev]

The video shows one cop having a conversation. No mentions that the family officially informed the local precinct, or sought a meeting to explain he was more than just a forgetful senior citizen.

[@logon235]

They "forgot"? Just like Sam. Maybe they have dementia too.

[@kdawson8981]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@lenitaa7938]

@@RevWarRev The video said the police know!! Besides, it's very obvious! These police lack compassion! Being in good health makes them arrogant!

[@RevWarRev]

@@lenitaa7938 This is on Sam's family. The family claimed the police know, but telling one cop in a conversation (where his daughter is making excuses) isn't informing the PD. And even if they had? Even when it's obvious? This is on his family. They are ignoring his needs, ignoring that he has been banned from the shopping center, and the police have been called eight times already. His family created this situation. It is utterly unreasonable to expect a food Establishment to risk Sam spreading feces throughout. Sam's condition is heartbreaking. We don't have adequate support for people with dementia or mental image. Sam's family put these cops between a rock and a hard place, gave them little choice. And yet his family is still blaming everyone but themselves.

[@michealjohnson2314]

His family needs to take responsibility for him and not just expect the police to care for him, the daughter was home when the police knocked on her door, and she didn't know where he was or if he was injured.

[@ladynay1731]

My mother had dementia, I’m so glad my mom lived in WILLINGBORO NJ. Yes police were Flustered with my mom, but they always called for me to come collect my mom NEVER EVER looking to arrest her

[@arcajeth626]

People act like it is so easy to keep a person with dementia from escaping their caretakers and so many people are dreadfully ignorant of this disease that affects millions in this country..

[@stevenmiller5999]

The cops figure money is money. They generated income for lots of people

[@horatiobeaker]

What do you expect from a police department that only requires a GED, a driver’s license and half as many hours of training than a barber?

[@Rudofaux]

Don't forget majority of their training is firearm practice.

[@M.J.212]

Don't all departments have to do psych evals. and a polygraph?

[@damesaphira9790]

It is not about training. It is about the quality of people. Unfortunately our population has turned to damned animals and damned animals is all you can hire if that is all there is in the population.

[@bluehills38]

@@M.J.212 they do ! They pass the Psycho test with flying colors, and lying hahaha they are trained to lie so lies become truths so Poly isn’t a problem 😳

[@DanniSoRude]

@@M.J.212 police officer is in the top ten of careers psychopaths usually gravitate towards so ....... 🤷🏾‍♀

[@naturalstategovernmentacco5247]

Boycott those businesses too.. I better end here before I really go off. Shameful and evil monsters!

[@RichardsWorld]

He doesn't remember that. He has dementia. Duh! His family needs to keep an eye on him.

[@mccabeianenator]

THEY have collapsed the Trust- Why waste an opportunity to make money from YOUR public-servants and trustees? Because the police officers were under orders from their chief CARL POVILAITIS to do what they did to Sam Thomas (81) then CARL POVILAITIS is also with liability for the injury-damage-loss-harm that occurred. If the police officers were NOT under orders from CARL POVILAITIS, then they were acting rogue. If the police officers were rogue, then CARL POVILAITIS is with the liability through failure and negligence for allowing people to impersonate police officers and act under colour-of-law. Mayor JERRY P. WEIERS is also with liability because he is an employee/agent of the city of GLENDALE and notice-to-principal-is-notice-to-agent and also through JOINDER. The directorSHIPS of TAIT DEVELOPEMENT- DAVID JOHNSON and LAURIE SMITH and WILLIAM TAIT are also liable through adhesion contract (JOINDER) The directorSHIPS of INSPIRE BRANDS(owners of Dunkin Donuts)- BRIAN LOEW and BETA MCNAUGHTON and MICHAEL SCHWIEN and ANTHONY SHEETZ and HILLARY KUHL and JOHN HERVEY and RICHARD TSAI are also with liability through adhesion contract (JOINDER) Please think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man....NOT the victim, when dealing with public-servants and trustees....because there is nothing wrong with any system, is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit? PS- As to whether you wish to frequent the businesses that treat elderly people with such a cruel intention is entirely up to YOU.

[@guynorth3277]

@not tellin; It's not actually the police, it's is the community -they direct the police.

[@mikecrosby3181]

What a moron you are the man has dementia you dumbass God you're stupid

[@naturalstategovernmentacco5247]

@@mikecrosby3181 Yes. The officers, the business owners and the property owner. They're all morons for trying to criminalize this man due to an illness he has no control over.

[@timg2973]

The family need to stay with him and watch him 24 7. My grandmother had dementia I quit my job to be with her 24 7. It was hard but I did what I needed to do. This family needs to step up.

[@happyinparis]

Maybe they can't afford to quit their jobs. Good grief! Such arrogance and puffed up superiority.

[@beckigreen]

@@happyinparisYour face looks puffed up.

[@hadassah356]

I agree! They probably wouldn’t have to quit their jobs. The government pays me to care for Dad. Unless, they’re wealthy, in which case they should hire nurses.

[@myralhf]

In Colorado a 74 yr old woman ended up with broken rib/wrist from police demands on her in cognitive mind...they can't say "Sam you are not listening" not his reality only theirs...

[@hueylongadmirer1829]

If Joe Biden can function as "president", there's no reason anyone with cognitive issues should be exempt from the law.

[@reviewiaid6432]

@@hueylongadmirer1829 way to go to making it political

[@KenyanBunnie]

@@hueylongadmirer1829 JFC.🤦🏾‍♀️

[@HPFan4Life81]

@@hueylongadmirer1829 stfu trumptard

[@khaynes4825]

I saw this too! I’m so disgusted.

[@scottjohnston8016]

Its,simple...just dont patronize businesses that dont care about our elderly

[@RichardsWorld]

This man can't remember that. It's his family's fault for not keeping an eye on him and letting him wander around. My dad had dementia and he definitely was not allowed to go out by himself.

[@mtlicq]

@Scott Johnston - Scott Johnston, AMEN !!! Spread the word! Dont patronize inhumane businesses, and ones that don't care about our elderly

[@mccabeianenator]

THEY have collapsed the Trust- Why waste an opportunity to make money from YOUR public-servants and trustees? Because the police officers were under orders from their chief CARL POVILAITIS to do what they did to Sam Thomas (81) then CARL POVILAITIS is also with liability for the injury-damage-loss-harm that occurred. If the police officers were NOT under orders from CARL POVILAITIS, then they were acting rogue. If the police officers were rogue, then CARL POVILAITIS is with the liability through failure and negligence for allowing people to impersonate police officers and act under colour-of-law. Mayor JERRY P. WEIERS is also with liability because he is an employee/agent of the city of GLENDALE and notice-to-principal-is-notice-to-agent and also through JOINDER. The directorSHIPS of TAIT DEVELOPEMENT- DAVID JOHNSON and LAURIE SMITH and WILLIAM TAIT are also liable through adhesion contract (JOINDER) The directorSHIPS of INSPIRE BRANDS(owners of Dunkin Donuts)- BRIAN LOEW and BETA MCNAUGHTON and MICHAEL SCHWIEN and ANTHONY SHEETZ and HILLARY KUHL and JOHN HERVEY and RICHARD TSAI are also with liability through adhesion contract (JOINDER) Please think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man....NOT the victim, when dealing with public-servants and trustees....because there is nothing wrong with any system, is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit? PS- As to whether you wish to frequent the businesses that treat elderly people with such a cruel intention is entirely up to YOU.

[@mikecrosby3181]

How do you even come up with the thinking that you have I am stunned at your aloofness

[@Rarediel]

@@RichardsWorld lol most people cant afford a extra 4k a month for that

[@zynjnn277]

When I lived in Glendale Az. Drunk drivers, Gang members & Drug dealers were OK, but honest citizen's were arrested on site. It seems it has not changed.

[@vian-ij4sv]

That's like arresting a 3 year old. He has no idea what's going on and they know this. This is ridiculous. His family is partly to blame. They should be supervising him 90% of the time.

[@joekev27]

The worst part is how they treated him once they brought him to jail. They think no one is watching and thats when we see how they truly act day to day and they enjoy having power over vulnerable people.

[@BUILDanAMERICAthatputPEOPLE1st]

They know we are watching... qualified immunity embolden them

[@andyoli75]

This is a defund situation. The police doesn't have any tools to deal with a family that lets their elderly relative, that has dementia, roam the neighborhood. Police are stupid in situations they aren't trained for, but the family knows he can't take care of himself and let him wander? I'm confused. Why aren't we asking of the family needs assistance treating him?

[@stinkmeaner9798]

How did they treat him?

[@M3rVsT4H]

@@andyoli75 People say things like "let him wander." Without facing the reality of the alternative. Lock him up.. His family has not been negligent, they've been compassionate. And frankly it's not for you nor I to decide when that old man should be deprived of his liberty. That is the burden of those closest to him.

[@dienaong3186]

Hey disrespectful stupid cops, karma will give you dementia when your turn comes.

[@francissantos7448]

It's very obvious that the gentleman needs to have a caretaker when outside in the community

[@Bdamazyn]

Agreed. I would look at whoever has been given POA to step up the plate and make some difficult choices.

[@Sammieannliz25]

Sometimes they still slip away.

[@fedupto68]

My granddad had to be dead bolted in. And he still would try to get out. His family gave them numbers to call. And the cops know him. They can't remember things but they know if someone cares. My granddaddy use to call his wife of almost fifty years that lady. When she left . He'd ask if the lady was coming back. And light up when she returned. He knew she took good care of him.

[@normfreilinger5655]

So it’s the family’s fault asshat

[@anntyler6902]

@@normfreilinger5655 Yes

[@thebluehotel426]

A family member or caregiver should accompany Sam whenever he goes out. You have to keep an eye on a dementia patient all the time.

[@bobsheehan687]

Or ask to take Sam to another coffee shop

[@JS-zb1vv]

Absolutely !!! These cops should have arrested his caregivers !!

[@sweetdaddy33]

@@JS-zb1vv The caregivers who may not be able to afford full time care. Not as black and white as u may think.

[@logon235]

Yeah, it's because it is so cheap and no one needs to work or live their lives.

[@JS-zb1vv]

@@sweetdaddy33 don’t disagree with you. But there are senior centers and such places that are free. At least stick an Apple Watch on him to track him. You don’t leave a 2 year old at home either just because you can’t afford it either. My grandmother had it it was terrible disease. I don’t agree with the police in handcuffing him since they knew him.

[@infedelin]

Even without the dementia, thats a senior citizen, cant you be just a human being when talking to someone like that ?

[@sanjoaquinvalleytransparency1]

I’m here with my sign saying “police suck!” Prove me wrong.

[@hueylongadmirer1829]

I'm here with my Glock telling you not to infringe on my liberties or voting rights. Prove me wrong.

[@asurasyn]

I'm here with my tactical nuclear warhead saying I want more fries! Prove me wrong.

[@dom96_]

Amen

[@robjohnson8522]

I don't need to prove anything. When you grow up you will figure it out all by yourself.

[@zachburskey8868]

I wouldn't say they all suck, but there is a problem with the police culture. Go on some police forums and give their threads a read, these guys have no idea what the law is or their obligations.

[@jacquelynn2051]

This man should not be alone and the officers should not be mocking him! Just because he is ambulatory does not mean that he should be going places by himself. Clearly his elderly friends can’t keep track of him. I worked the Alzheimer’s unit years ago. The unit was locked.

[@andyoli75]

Yeah. The police aren't equipped to handle this situation and they keep getting called. I don't understand why we aren't asking how they are letting an 81 year old man, with dementia, walk around by himself.

[@pipermaisiemae1999]

That's what defunding the police means. It means we make other organizations that are able to handle these situations. I totally agree this man needs to be in a facility. He is obviously not being watched closely enough.

[@Markzuckisacuck]

It’s definitely somewhat the families fault, If they know that he’s having problems with police why are they still letting him leave the house!?

[@Markzuckisacuck]

@@pipermaisiemae1999 definitely!!! It’s insane how the police are mocking him 😡 his family and the police should be held accountable

[@robjohnson8522]

Mocked? Saying "that smell is not me" is not mocking him. It is making a joke but making a joke is not mocking. "Did baby poop his pants" would be mocking him. No one did anything like that. When you get older you will realize humor is a defense mechanism. Those poor cops were dealing with a lot of pain right there-- they have to deal with a man who is clearly being neglected by his family and dealt with it as humans do - by making bad jokes about it. Instead of being mad at the actual bad people in this story-- the folks neglecting this poor man-- you are mad at the people who have to clean up someone else's mess.

[@M.J.212]

The cops mocking him need to be sent to classes to learn to be human, then fired.

[@laurielewis2745]

You can't teach decency to psychopaths.

[@ontheroad9121]

No, they need to be sent to jail.

[@MichaelClark-uw7ex]

They need an attitude adjustment with a sock full of nickels.

[@gettygets872]

@@MichaelClark-uw7ex, lol !

[@lalo80adams71]

I never knew a "PIG" can change into an actual human being ...

[@suasponte4968]

Take care of your family responsibilities and the police won’t have to.

[@Robert-ff9wf]

I think some empathy is in order here. And as far as the police making fun of him, karma will come for them when they get old!! Let the guy live out his remaining years in peace visiting the coffee shop with his friends! We are all headed towards were he is now, can't we have some compassion???????

[@jermnheat]

Very well put!

[@gimmeabreak7531]

Hopefully karma comes visiting way before they get old. Just so the can spend years regretting it. It would be terrible if it was all over for them in a flash.

[@MerchantNation]

not a fan of police in general, but im a realest. in times of awkwardness, people insulate with humor. the statements of the officers, to me, nothing more than human nature. there was no malice in their words or true mocking of the old man. they didnt go overboard and take it to a level of excess or berate the old man to his face, they simply sought to verbally provide some levity to the situation. as to whether they should have changed his diaper, i dont think most police intake stations provide elder care and if i was them i would not personally want to change a strangers diaper. this is what medical caregivers sign up for. i dont think officers had that in mind when they filled out their application.also, lets not forget the legal ramifications... i would not want to accept the potential liability associated with undressing and the level of care required when changing the diaper of an elderly person with dementia. if this level of care is to be expected of our police facilities when processing those with mental issues, then a budget to provide the proper resources and staffing needs to be proposed and voted on to approve and fund. if this already exist, then correct my misunderstanding. im sure we could do better as a society, but the failure is the system that we continue voting to uphold. dont vilify regular people doing something that most of you have probably done if you ever walked past an old person the had a profuse odor of she-caca emanating from their area of existence. if you havent then your better than most of us and you should be content that you wont have to be around us forever as you are not invited to our reserved special place in hell

[@babydriver8134]

Cops with compassion? Ain't seen any for a few years now.

[@rusakova99]

This is only half the story. He's prolly been banned there 50 times in the last 3 months. It's a public disturbance

[@doozowings4672]

Did that officer say, “he’s going to have to learn I guess” ? How does a person with dementia learn ?

[@YoGranDaddyEvil]

That cop does not care and is incapable of understanding why.

[@paulstott3444]

Those leos probably have less brain cells between them than the old man!!!

[@neutronalchemist3241]

He doesn't learn because he has dementia. They don't because they are born idiot.

[@hueylongadmirer1829]

Doesn't seem to be a problem for Joe Biden.

[@sasziy375]

The best thing to do is to get him a professional companion to go with him to these places and help to control his behavior. This is really sad to hear of.

[@CandHMasonryInc]

right now it costs my family six thousand a month to keep our mother in a memory car unit. To have a professional would to take her places would be twice that much. Not many can afford it.

[@ANunes06]

If only we had the funds to publicly provide him with something like that. Oh well. Let's buy another MRAP for the PD!

[@rodneysmart9774]

$$$$$ DF

[@timoshea2400]

you are a part of the problem the cost would be beyond most family budgets where is your compassion

[@sasziy375]

@@timoshea2400 Oh Tim, if only you knew. How are you this evening though? Warm and comfortable I hope. Blessings.

[@jdjackson7317]

Why wasn’t the family with him at the store? If he has a declining capacity then it is the families responsibility to escort him to the store? Why is the family not responsible to keep him and the public safe? The family is upset the police had to step in but they are not willing to do anything to resolve the issue. When my grandfather was diagnosed with dementia we made sure he was safe and cared for at ALL times and not allowed to wonder the streets. The jail staff was laughing at the use of the word PooPoo they were not mocking this man who was unable to hear them at the time.

[@ChrisLee66]

Isn't it time for Sam to get a monitor of some sort. If he is wondering around what will be said if he gets hit by a car or something.

[@preciousbaby3652]

It isn't that easy, one has to qualify for the service and since he lives with family members, they might make too much money. My mom had to stop working to take care of my dad b/c they wanted to take their home. Where was she supposed to live? He passed last year after 10 years of dementia.

[@kathywedzik4905]

Exactly my words, the family is absolutely shamefully negligent in how they are having their family member taken care of, he should be escorted 24 hours by caretaker so he and everyone stays safe.

[@kathywedzik4905]

@@preciousbaby3652 could become certified caretaker for famiy member and be compensated in some places

[@dcrob20002]

@@kathywedzik4905 Feel free to donate 60,000 a year to the family for home caretaker or a putting him a nursing home.

[@lisamarieva3514]

I have elderly family that have dementia. As much as it hurts to watch them decline into confusion and frailty, the family must step in and provide close supervision for these people. It is way too dangerous for them to be wandering around. With the rise in random, unprovoked attacks on elderly, I cannot imagine any family not stepping in to make sure their loved one has around the clock supervision. I never want to take my parents freedom away but I would be far more upset if something happened to them because no one was looking out for them.

[@winh998]

There is no such thing as affordable care. It's expensive just to have someone stay with him. ..maybe an adult day care center.

[@mary11976]

At 92/93 yrs olds, my mom did not have dementia but would accidentally lock herself in the bathroom so I removed the lock(her arthritis prevented from unlocking). She also wore the house key around her neck on a ribbon (that was actually her own idea & a pretty good one).

[@generalbiochemistryi8498]

@@winh998 I agree. I had to pay a caretaker $18/hr to stay with my mom. Mom's SS only covered about 2/3 of it and I paid the rest. There are facilities that will take them in for their SS but those tend to be State facilities and not good. Church day cares are probably the best alternative. But someone has to watch them. They can't be allowed out alone.

[@Daniel_Antonio_Arellano782]

@@mary11976 That's the kind of care the elderly people need. Not just stick them in a looney bin.

[@acabf1275]

You that much of a boot licker you think its okay to beat the elderly and or children, tyranny is a life imprisonment or death plain and simple

[@aech619]

People suffering from dementia and mental disorders should not be in jail. They should be taken to a hospital where staff can properly assist the disabled individual until the family, court or social services can figure out next steps

[@valkyriesardo278]

No, not that either. A holding cell was the immediate best choice until the family could be contacted. There was no medical emergency, but an ongoing and progressive behavioral problem as a direct result of dementia. Hospitals are not long term care facilities. That is the business of nursing homes.

[@kbryant187]

@@valkyriesardo278 A holding cell? He should have been taken to a psych hospital each time. That way there would be a medical record of each incident and he could receive CARE not ridicule for his inability to control his bowels, his bladder and his own hygiene. Also, hospital staff would have to notify adult protective services each time as well in order to protect this gentleman seeing as his family has been unable to do so. Hospital and adult protective services can then have him admitted to the appropriate long-term care facility. His mind is deteriorating. He desperately needs appropriate 24-hour supervision and assistance. His current situation and a holding cell are not the correct solutions.

[@kathywedzik4905]

@@kbryant187 you choreographed those words like a pro.

[@kbryant187]

@@kathywedzik4905 Thank you for your kind words. I've been a nurse for over 20 years. I had the honor of caring for patients with dementia for a portion of that time.

[@mizeriluvscompany2198]

What a joke of a department

[@RichardsWorld]

I had to deal with my father and his dementia. My dad sometimes did violent things and swear at strangers. I was very hard to deal with. I can really only blame his family. She said he just leaves the house and ends up there without them knowing. It's the family's fault for not keeping him in the house, or escorting him. A business really doesn't need someone spreading his poop all over their windows. I've had to say for for my father many times and prevent people from wanting to fight my dad. His family should keep a close eye on him.

[@rarebreed9208]

When I was a cop 30yrs ago, we made every effort to ensure the safety of people like this until we could reunite them with their families. The world today sucks.

[@aurtherpein8329]

A time of peace

[@geness9676]

Thank you for your service 🙏

[@IridescentW]

@@aurtherpein8329 More like a time without video cameras.

[@stinkmeaner9798]

HAAA!

[@falseprophet1024]

Thats why all those cops are always reminiscing on the good ole days when they could get away with anything?

[@hambone2335]

The scary thing is they are going to continue arresting him as long as DD keeps calling the police on him.

[@rubiconbaron9662]

Should DD be responsible to take care of him? What else are they supposed to do?

[@tanawilliams7498]

Well maybe other people are not going to appreciate how DD treats this man and how little compassion they have for the elderly and maybe they will just stop using this DD tell them why they are not using this DD anymore. The old man does not understand why he can't be with his friends anymore and it seems to me that the family has bent over backwards even telling DD that they will come immediately and clean up any mess he's made and that they will come pick him up immediately and yet DD continues to call the cops instead of the family. And a young person who works in the store next door is scared of an old old man who stares into the window? Of course we've all heard of white fragility but do we now have to deal with youth fragility?

[@tanawilliams7498]

@@rubiconbaron9662 no one is asking DD to be responsible for him they have said they will drop everything the Moment DD calls them and yet they still keep calling the cops as if the cops don't have better things to do then come there and call the Family themselves to come pick up Sam. One of these days it might be one of your parents who is Sam would you want your parent to be treated this way? And you can't say you take better care because these people can get away from you in a second just like a three-year-old can, gone before you know it. The only way to stop it is to put them in a locked facility and if that's okay with you then I feel really sorry for your parents

[@tubehound69]

@@rubiconbaron9662 There wasn't even the most remote suggestion that DD should be responsible for him, but arresting him clearly isn't the answer to this, and since the only tool the police have in the tool box is arrest, then another solution needs to be found. It seems like the family had a reasonable suggestion...call them and they will immediately come pick him up. I'd give that a shot before calling police.

[@soulsreaper7145]

​@@rubiconbaron9662 responsible???????? commmonnnnn u heard the real issue on the cops body cam footage, his partner has two daughters that work there and the girls are scared so dadddy gonna make sure the old man is arrested and booked for life so that his girls dont have to be around the elderly. while they serve shitty coffee and stale donuts.

[@Slamdunk094]

This is sad. I remember my mother took care of a WW2 vet with dementia. God forbid this ever happened to themselves or loved ones. For shame PD.

[@andrewbuchanan148]

literally any one of us could become that man that’s what’s so sad about this, to treat someone like that.

[@Darksister0922]

My grandma died from Alzheimer’s and mom has dementia. They need to be watched like children. Still that is no way to treat the elderly.

[@kyndred-ry5mm]

My mother in law as dementia ,shes living with us ,i do not wish this on no one

[@robjohnson8522]

"Still that is no way to treat the elderly." Well, ok, what do you think the police should have done? Should the police just ignore him like his caregivers plainly are? How many times do you think they should drive him home just so the family can ignore him and let him wander away yet again? They did that before and it id not work. What do you think they should have done that they did not do over the dozen times they had to deal with him? For the life of me, I can't understand why no one cares about the people at the strip mall who had to put up with the man's abuse or clean his feces off the walls. Yes, that poor man is not to blame but neither are the police for protecting taxpayers from abuse and vandalism.

[@Darksister0922]

@@robjohnson8522 look I totally agree with you. Like I said they need to be watched like children and obviously his caregivers are not talking care of him. But laughing at him and throwing him in a cell is a bit much. They should have taken him to the hospital and then called the office on aging to access if he’s being taken care of properly.

[@gerardburton1081]

Those coppers should be fired. While they were arresting this dementia victim they could have been arresting a drug dealer, burglar or rapist. Thankfully all the charges were dropped but only after 5 months.

[@arcajeth626]

It is much harder than watching children to be honest....

[@MaeSteRWaR]

We sometimes forget that one day too we all shall be old

[@tammierose3753]

And that’s when he’ll get his karma. better be nice to people

[@jamesroales2684]

I'm doing my best to forget.

[@johnthree1611]

And in those days, those same cops will have people crying for them, that they are 81 years old ex cops with dementia, everyone will feel bad for them, and treat them much better than this guy.

[@sararyan1255]

👍😞

[@laqueenawilliams4762]

Are you blaming the cops for doing their job or the business who complained multiple times?

[@ianbattles7290]

The old man's behavior is explained by a Dementia diagnosis, *but what's the excuse for the behavior of these cops?*

[@brianburnham8734]

Now we can honestly say police are arresting our elderly for being old.

[@jewelcreechbigelowhomestea6202]

It’s bull crap I hate to know how it will be when I’m old 🙄

[@throatpunch4789]

Why does the family not watch him? My grandmother has dementia and she is NEVER left alone

[@Rarediel]

because this is America and people have to work?

[@throatpunch4789]

@@Rarediel nope not everyone all at once and children are watched 24/7 so are disabled people and elderly people are all watched all day and night

[@donstarfinkel6456]

@@throatpunch4789 sadly, America provides child care to low income families but not to elderly paitients. Even with insurace home health aids can run hundreds of dollars a month. My grandmother passed away last year and she was in that situation. THANK GOD she had all 6 of her children and 27 grandchildren. Just sayin, its hard. Im sure if they had it they would have been got him someone. 🤷

[@dirtguy5022]

I am sure the Police chief will come out again and say how much things will change ( again) and then do absolutely nothing will change. Eventually (probably with in a week or two) they will murder or hurts someone badly. And the Chief will come out and say how things are going to change.

[@laurielewis2745]

Bingo.

[@donkeydeck5263]

It's the families fault not the police. They need to care for their family and not expect society to do it for them.

[@Rudofaux]

@@donkeydeck5263 Ok, goose-stepper.

[@laurielewis2745]

@@donkeydeck5263 🤣🤣🤣

[@kailynwright1436]

@@donkeydeck5263 I find your view very interesting. I agree, however I'm lost for words when it comes to a solution.

[@drtij_dzienz]

Entry-level Memory care for dementia patients is about $8,000-$10,000 a month. No, Medicare doesn’t “cover it”

[@Vonne452]

This is so sad. My uncle deals with this all the time! Lord Father God protect all our elderly & non elderly with this condition 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@buzzmessinger4510]

Lord, protect us from those, sworn to serve and protect, and I'm a pro-cop person. I back the Blue, but I don't like the "black n blue they dish out.

[@douglasbunn166]

So apparently the family needs to take better care of the fella

[@werenotfree4841]

That's what I'm saying

[@l.austin2371]

Cops do to idiot

[@Rarediel]

oh and quit their jobs and become homeless?

[@q.t.gamingfamily]

Exactly. I don't blame them for not calling the family. They're not paid caregivers nor are they family. I wouldn't provide care to a person while trying to do my actual job and do it for free. Police officers don't change diapers either. Stop demanding people do the jobs of others.

[@nnyy9729]

If he has dementia, then I really hope he will forget about the arrest and everything relates to it. How could the officers laugh him like that? So sad.

[@RD-bx7wl]

because the p h x p.d. are horrid ruthless and evil !!

[@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309]

Uhhhhhhhh they're cops. Being condescending a-holes is normal for them.

[@jeffjones3040]

@@sicsemperevellomortemtyran309 ...Right. They think they get paid extra for it or something. That is how religiously often they do it.

[@sarahford2451]

He will be traumatized and not understand what happened thats what makes it so sad!!!😭

[@jimbeam3783]

The family needs to share some of this blame for leaving him unattended

[@maryrodger5130]

Sam needs a caregiver if his family aren't able to take care of him. Some nursing homes provide daily sitting so that the family can go to their jobs during the day.

[@Rarediel]

4-8k a month depending where you are if they need a licensed nurse on staff. It isn't like a normal elderly care home. You need a full time nurse to feed, give medication, bath them, clean them after they use the bathroom in their diaper.

[@maryrodger5130]

@@Rarediel Day care in a nursing home would be overseen by a CNA and an LPN if meds are needed. Oh, and most insurance would pay.

[@mary11976]

Medicare will generally pay all or most of that. When my mom needed full time care, Medicare would've paid it but I wanted the best so I used the two magic words to the administrator: *Private Pay*.

[@sheilas716]

I agree that it was unnecessary to arrest him - but obviously someone needs to stay with him 24/7 Someone in the family NEEDS to know where he is all the time - If he wants to go for coffee or socialize GO WITH HIM - A FAMILY MEMBER It is unfortunate but what happens if he hurts himself and no one is around - There should be someone with him ALL THE TIME

[@ellaty5744]

Well, that's common sense though.

[@rogerwilco2]

I think that is too expensive for most people. People have jobs. He probably has very little finances, and cannot afford a nursing home. But the solution to everything in America seems to be to lower taxes on the wealthy and be tough on crime. Arizona has a three strikes law, so he should just be jailed for life. That's how the USA deals with all its problems.

[@jeffjones3040]

If they cannot be with him at all times, and cannot get/pay for someone who can, they will have to lock him in the house while they are gone. What else could be done?

[@jrambo7495]

NO ONE THAT OLD WITH DEMENTIA SHOULD EVER BE ALONE!!! He must be supervised at all times!!!! His caretakers are the ones to blame!!

[@Rarediel]

no America is. Other countries have government supplied elder care and subsidies.

[@julietaferrario4934]

Where is his caretaker . He needs supervision. I cared for My dad with dementia for 16 years . She need to hire someone to look after him .

[@myozbubble]

My mother and her own parents had Alzheimers so, I understand a bit about what it is like to have a family member suffering from this condition. However, if the businesses are wanting to ban this gentleman, I think it's because he is making a soiled mess in their bathrooms and they are tired of cleaning up after him. I'm saddened that a man that is this deep into dementia is allowed to wonder out all by himself too.

[@Bdamazyn]

I think myo is right. My sister and I cared for our mother 27/7 in her last years. She could not be left alone in her condition with dementia.

[@Hearttoheart3]

The sad thing is that the worst thing to do with a person with dementia is to argue or handle them roughly. They get more agitated the more you yell at them. They cannot reason with you. You have to redirect the person and allow them to calm done. You can’t make them understand what you are wanting from them. They are not being defiant on purpose. It’s not personal at all. This is why so many elderly are abused in nursing homes. People take things personal that they say or do

[@VanitysGunn]

Yes! Also stress, changes in environment & routine can cause mental decline. You would think police officers would be trained in how to handle these situations. But just like all policing in America it's about control & not community safety.

[@gimmeabreak7531]

You do realise you are referring to cops? You either lick their boots and comply or you will be made to suffer.

[@rogerwilco2]

@@VanitysGunn Arizona does not really train it's officers. And if one is fired, they can just go work in the next county. The state of policing in Arizona is horrible.

[@christopherhuff3123]

Imagine how they treat people with Autism

[@ec5394]

I'm tired of the PD wasting our money by arresting those with mental health problems who can't defend themselves. When they do encounter these situations, they should be required to transport them to an emergency room, where they can be evaluated immediately by medical experts, just as they do drunk drivers.

[@RyuuOujiXS]

Ya, we'll send all the medical bills to you. Enjoy the debt

[@mandyellis876]

Dementia is NOT a ‘mental health’ issue, it’s a disease!!

[@dhy5342]

Who do you think has to pay for the ER visit?

[@jonathanhernandez4304]

Family in denial. When my mother got to this point in her dementia, we did not just let her continue her daily routine unsupervised; we kept her safe in public by either a family member or friend that understood what exactly mom was now unaware of at times. It's not incumbent on the Dunkin Donuts, police department or passing stranger to real in your father when he gets extremely confused. We loved mom so deeply that we did not want our mother to experience the confusion and increased heart rate of police contact or someone yelling at her because they didn't understand dementia. Lesson here is not to teach Dunkin Donuts or police how to care for your dad. The lesson is to teach this family it's time to elevate their responsibility to their father and society. I was exhausted by having to do this after a whole work day for Mom. But me and my brother Tim were not about to just let her walk out the door alone after just two such incidents. Family, wake up...

[@happyinparis]

Good for you. My Mom was put on a 6 month minimum waiting list.

[@gregoryferber3231]

The officer at 4:55 sums it up, "I dont know what to do to make you understand". Its because you are not the right person for the job.

[@robjohnson8522]

True. That is what is "caregiver" is supposed to do. Protect that poor man instead of letting him wander the streets!

[@deyrichemuse9072]

@@robjohnson8522 PROTECT!!!!! AND SERVE!!!! PROTECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bertoh5544]

Dude's 81 he should be at home taken care of. It's the daughters fault for not watching him. He could have been hurt. My grandmother had dementia. We were on her like white on rice.

[@robjohnson8522]

[@guillermodiaz67]

May God help this man and his daughters, I hope things get better for him. As for the police officers and staff that mocked him, they should be terminated.

[@bobdermott6446]

Yep everything you said is true, so now what are you going to do about it???? Cops that are doing this must have to pay, not the city! The taxpayers should not be required to pay for the idiot cop ( make him or her pay )😂🐷🐷😏🤔

[@pircmodern]

The biggest crime here is that he was dringking Dunkin Donuts crap “coffee’...

[@leeannfritz7877]

First shame on the businesses for trespassing this man. The family has stated that if their father is there then call his daughter to pick him up. I say boycott these business, hit it where it counts.

[@donkeydeck5263]

The family is leaving him unattended. It's their fault.

[@noneyabusiness1161]

It's not a nursing home, it's a business. It's not their job to watch over him. Several times the police were called. The family should have taken action long before that.

[@ront2424]

Totally, boycott these businesses until they see some sense and come to a compromise.

[@eltorocal]

@@noneyabusiness1161 No wonder grampa' had nothing to do with You.

[@eltorocal]

@@donkeydeck5263 What are you, 11 yrs. old?

[@nayarevolutionary5811]

Whyyyy are they letting him just wander around? When my granny got sick with dementia, we walked together

[@werenotfree4841]

Yes

[@javienelmore3182]

idk, you would think people would raise an eye brow at who ever should be taking care of him before they jump at the officers.

[@paulettebarrow9791]

@NAYA, THEY SAID HE LEAVES WITHOUT THEM KNOWING

[@werenotfree4841]

@@paulettebarrow9791 are you kidding. He's ill, they should know

[@jrsydvl7218]

They work. Not everyone has the ability to devote the time to care for their elderly family members.

[@carloswylie4968]

Well at least they didn't brake his arm and dislocate his shoulder like they did that 73 year old woman.

[@FluffballKitties]

I think they handled him decently, not the mocking part, but 8 chances before arresting him is decent. His family knew about the issues and should have been there to help him, not left him alone.

[@pegs1659]

That was awful.

[@lealand423]

Yes that was disgusting

[@mccabeianenator]

THEY have collapsed the Trust- Why waste an opportunity to make money from YOUR public-servants and trustees? Because the police officers were under orders from their chief CARL POVILAITIS to do what they did to Sam Thomas (81) then CARL POVILAITIS is also with liability for the injury-damage-loss-harm that occurred. If the police officers were NOT under orders from CARL POVILAITIS, then they were acting rogue. If the police officers were rogue, then CARL POVILAITIS is with the liability through failure and negligence for allowing people to impersonate police officers and act under colour-of-law. Mayor JERRY P. WEIERS is also with liability because he is an employee/agent of the city of GLENDALE and notice-to-principal-is-notice-to-agent and also through JOINDER. The directorSHIPS of TAIT DEVELOPEMENT- DAVID JOHNSON and LAURIE SMITH and WILLIAM TAIT are also liable through adhesion contract(JOINDER) The directorSHIPS of INSPIRE BRANDS(owners of Dunkin Donuts)- BRIAN LOEW and BETA MCNAUGHTON and MICHAEL SCHWIEN and ANTHONY SHEETZ and HILLARY KUHL and JOHN HERVEY and RICHARD TSAI are also with liability through adhesion contract(JOINDER) Please think(and act) like the BUSINESS-man....NOT the victim, when dealing with public-servants and trustees....because there is nothing wrong with any system, is it not our negligence with not using it for OUR benefit? PS- As to whether you wish to frequent the businesses that treat elderly people with such a cruel intention is entirely up to YOU.

[@terryallen6688]

You know, it's way to bad we as a society can't come up with a better way to handle this kind of SOCIETAL problem. Arrest is not the solution people. This is ridiculous. A more humane way needs to happen in these cases, not strong arm policing and arrest. Come on people.

[@jmaxim917]

This is too sad. I wish Sam and his family the best. Brought tears.

[@mrsdraper171]

Family needs to keep him home. It's not safe for him to be out alone.

[@jermnheat]

My Mom had dementia and this was in 2007 when really not many people had even heard of it! It was extremely rough and it was so hard to watch my Mom suffer through that! She almost got arrested as well one day before the diagnosis, but thank God they didn’t and she was sent to a place to be evaluated to figure out what was going on! That day I drove her to the place and had to leave her there for 7 days! I’ll never forget that day, my heart broke into pieces as I was instructed to leave and told she will be able to call me everyday! As I said goodbye to her, the room she was in had a huge window and I said I love you mama don’t worry I will be back and we’ll talk every day. She stood at the window crying and begging me not to leave her there please! I almost said forget this but I knew it had to happen! That day, it felt like my mama was now one of my young daughters, I felt so guilty leaving her there and prayed she would forgive me! That tore me up for sure. Of course She’s in a better place now, but I’ve never been the same since that day! Those officers that mocked him and were just inconsiderate and mean! Trust! One day karma will come to play with them! They really all need to apologize for such behavior and all should have to take classes or something about dementia because it’s no joke!!!

[@pegs1659]

I feel your pain and it hurts. Please know your mama loves you very much and she's probably having a good ol time in heaven.

[@xavisolis2115]

You abandoned your mom, you think Karma will play with you?

[@Scepticalasfuk]

Dementia is not a 'new' thing, idiot. There was no lawful reason for you to abandon your parent, I imagine it was more convenient for you.

[@gimmeabreak7531]

@@Scepticalasfuk you take being a butt wipe to a whole knew level. She didnt abandon her Mother. Her Mother was there for evaluation. If your child needed an operation would you be abandoning them by letting them go into theatre alone? You have the IQ of a donut centre.

[@Scepticalasfuk]

@@gimmeabreak7531 No you.

[@hoot1141]

This is a clear cut case of a family that refuses to take care of their ill family member. The police have been more than accommodating to this family. It’s their responsibility to take care of him and get him the help he needs. The family is either delusional or just trying to shift the blame to police because they know that they themselves are responsible for all this. People that won’t take care of their elderly family members are scumbags. That lady doesn’t need to be going to Starbucks. She needs to save her money so she can take care of her father. These people are scumbags for letting their ill family member get arrested.

[@DDCCO61]

My wife suffers from dementia and you cannot leave a dementia sufferer to live their own lives. I wouldn't have known how to behave around a dementia sufferer until that disease entered our door. His daughter, in my opinion, does not understand the seriousness of the level of care her father needs regardless of her history with the disease. Professionals need to be appointed.

[@Julia4672]

How about the elderly friends of Sam come to his home and have coffee with him each day. His personal needs can then be taken care of privately. He will also be in familiar settings which will decrease his confusion. He is far too vulnerable to be allowed to wander around. I highly recommend the book “The 36 Hour Day”. It outlines strategies for care for folks at all stages of dementia.

[@casualsmasual4333]

that would take effort and planning, too much stress, let the guy roam the streets, and blame the cops who have to respond.

[@plutotech]

@@casualsmasual4333 - bootlicker alert...

[@robjohnson8522]

@@plutotech Non-thinker alert!

[@ML77619]

This family should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this along with this news outlet. This family is completely in the wrong.

[@RevWarRev]

Spot on!

[@survivor6710]

All he wanted to do was hang out with his friends. Ohh this really breaks my heart💔

[@ec5394]

The PD chief should be fired or demoted for his derelictions of duties, in which he & his senior officers should have foreseen this to come to fruition. Maybe in the near future he himself or his family members will end up in the same situation, depending on their family's health history.

[@pattyyoung2103]

Be careful Sam next time they will hurt you! And the cops that booked him and talk and treated him that way need to be fired!

[@stevenjones1024]

There's a lot of good officers out there but there's also a lot of bad ones and these are the bad ones. I'm kind of surprised they didn't call out the SWAT team on old Sam. I do think that Sam needs to go to a rest home. Apparently, his family can't take care of him , they didn't even know he was missing

[@dp7047]

I agree but that would just kill his spirit....the family is to blame here

[@robertstack2144]

Yes, you are correct, I saw all three of them

[@mattsivits9834]

Call police for help.... end up arresting a 81 year old man.... How about helping him..... I was a restaurant manager before I quit that horrid job and dealt with elder like that all the times, just call his family, but he shouldn’t be driving also

[@wickednwyld]

I seriously doubt that he drove. Sounds like this place is close to his home.

[@gimmeabreak7531]

@alphygirl 2013 just quit spamming you tw@t

[@edanacichanowicz1711]

Mocking him at police station. Disgusting.