Family SICKENED After Discovering Grandma Did the Unthinkable

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5 ай бұрын

In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of DeAngelo Tobia and analyzing it from an educational psychological perspective.
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@narageaedeon7845
@narageaedeon7845 5 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think that Tonina is the one who snapped and killed her nephew. The mother who was starting to suffer from dementia, was convinced to take the blame to protect the golden child. Every interview that Tonina gives it’s all about her.
@itsmonicanicolle
@itsmonicanicolle 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@dayna29866
@dayna29866 5 ай бұрын
Definitely! She totally did it and used the fact her mother was losing her mind..during Tonina's interrogation I can't count how many times I said "you fucking weirdo!" outloud!...that poor old lady literally thinks she did it because she's got dementia & doesn't know the difference between night & day..& Tonina took advantage of the fact her mom was sick & would protect her sick daughter no matter what...her describing the CPR like hitting a ham??!! Who the fuck says that?!
@BunnaySango
@BunnaySango 5 ай бұрын
Terry and Tonina are likely covert narcs, both are completely self absorbed and not grasping the fact they are implicated in the murder of a child.
@emmahardy7611
@emmahardy7611 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@StinkyButton
@StinkyButton 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@nowyouknow83
@nowyouknow83 3 ай бұрын
I literally lost all my brain cells watching this interview
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley Ай бұрын
Pretty screwed up family. 'Have you taken him out if the tub?' 'No.' 🤯🤯 'Can you do cpr? Breathe into his mouth' 'No. Mom breathe into his mouth.' 'No you do it.' 'No' 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳🤯
@Harry-fk5of
@Harry-fk5of Ай бұрын
She's so frustrating and all over the place. I wish the detective was stricter with his questioning and kept her on track
@Sterase94
@Sterase94 Ай бұрын
@@Harry-fk5of That probably would have made her combative and usually that wouldn't be good because the suspect would be less likely to cooperate.. But in this case I reckon she would have blurted out the truth in anger/frustration. Mental illness is a horrible thing.
@CHACHAMEDINA
@CHACHAMEDINA Ай бұрын
YES! and yet I can't stop watching, even though I know I will be pissed off that tonina's self absorbed murdering ass didn't get locked up
@UnderTakerSilverMaker
@UnderTakerSilverMaker Ай бұрын
Chuckled at this comment, and then watched the video. Had to come back and say I now have an IQ in the negatives.
@vanessaswayze1456
@vanessaswayze1456 Ай бұрын
that 911 call is so eerie. you can hear the moment she realizes how bad her nonchalance sounds to the operator and how she turns on the distress.
@Mama2CDHsurvivor
@Mama2CDHsurvivor Ай бұрын
Yes I heard that too! The beginning was like she was ordering a pizza
@mizzbarbiedoll8989
@mizzbarbiedoll8989 28 күн бұрын
@@Mama2CDHsurvivorright omg😮😮
@Glados1080
@Glados1080 27 күн бұрын
The operator was so baffled by her calmness he couldn't even understand her. Lady is definitely guilty asf
@asiankneegrow3110
@asiankneegrow3110 26 күн бұрын
She started to show as if she's panicking after the operator asks her twice.
@HoneyNVinegar
@HoneyNVinegar 17 күн бұрын
For me, when she suddenly started babbling about "ordering a pizza" while on the phone with 911? Whatever psychosis she has going on, she suddenly mixed up actual observable events (ie, "I got on the phone with 911...") with what was *going through her head* when on the phone with 911, but only halfway. To me, in that moment she's revealing a quick discussion she had with whoever (not her mom imho, but someone no one but her can see/hear :| ) told her "it sounds like you're ordering a pizza... turn shit up a bit maybe?", her reply being "I'm not ordering a pizza! I'm not... no, I'm" etc. Convince me otherwise. Please, cos that creeps me out.
@shinebright3997
@shinebright3997 Ай бұрын
ABSOLUTLEY Tonina killed her nephew. Her story is all over the place and changed all the time. They botched this one up big time putting that old lady in jail. Shame on them
@4fNReal-
@4fNReal- 18 күн бұрын
Or she knew what the mom did, and is trying to protect her!
@shinebright3997
@shinebright3997 18 күн бұрын
@@4fNReal- no her mom is sitting in jail covering for her. You hear her keep asking about Tonina and her other goes mom she's fine. She's getting hair or nails done. She's loving her best life right now.
@user-zm8br4zr4m
@user-zm8br4zr4m 12 күн бұрын
@@shinebright3997 lady they wouldnt arrest an innocent with no evidence, plus i am getting pissed off at people making conspiracies over A CHILDS MURDER
@shinebright3997
@shinebright3997 11 күн бұрын
@@user-zm8br4zr4m cops give give a shit. It's just "a job" and they have some poor old lady confused and can't tell anyone how, why or what even happened. All she ever says is I did it maybe. Case close and everyone is okay with that. ?!
@shinebright3997
@shinebright3997 11 күн бұрын
@@user-zm8br4zr4mthe grandmother has dementia and clearly is confused about everything she even said she was his mom at first she can't provide any info. And Tonina is more than happy to jump on that make the whole thing be about her and let her mom go to jail. WOW narcissist behavior on full display
@JasperCatProductions
@JasperCatProductions 5 ай бұрын
You see a 4 year old in a tub you think he is drowning and you just leave him in there? You call 9-1-1 but leave the baby in the water? My God these people are horrid. This aunt is giving me the creeps.
@jessicalynn6285
@jessicalynn6285 5 ай бұрын
3:44 The detective first says "I'm sorry about everything that happened" and the aunt starts to say, "No, that's -" and stops herself when the detective continued and mentioned her "loss". She was about to say, "No, that's okay" not even realizing at first that "sorry about what happened" was referring to her NEPHEW DYING.
@nawan2348
@nawan2348 5 ай бұрын
3 year old boy drowned in bath tub. i don't believe this. IMPOSIBLE.
@jasonhoward9770
@jasonhoward9770 5 ай бұрын
​@@jessicalynn6285 yeah definitely a sick puppy for sure can't have a heart or soul I don't know.R.I.P poor guy 🥺
@llbb110
@llbb110 5 ай бұрын
Exactly! She's horrible. The first reaction would be to take him out, then immediately call 911.
@oldhickory4686
@oldhickory4686 5 ай бұрын
Tanina should be charged just for being annoying.
@ianatkinson6111
@ianatkinson6111 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Tonina had the balls to do an interview with you guys is crazy. Especially when everything she told you was different from the police. I think she should be behind bars.
@lisab301
@lisab301 5 ай бұрын
I don't think its bravery, I think its delusion.
@Headspr0uter
@Headspr0uter 5 ай бұрын
yeah crazy is the word, i'm afraid.
@mrpandabites
@mrpandabites 5 ай бұрын
She's a narcisist and thinks she can fool everyone. It's fairly clear she's the murderer and the mother is covering for her.
@emanuelmma2
@emanuelmma2 5 ай бұрын
Tonina was it 100% and the Eminem song was maybe a weird motivation in her bizarre brain. Its really horrible that she let her own mom die in prison and dont even has the slightest remorse. Thats brutal.
@lubabe9969
@lubabe9969 5 ай бұрын
That sweet attention is all that seems to matter to this family.
@emilylafrance4930
@emilylafrance4930 22 күн бұрын
FLEW to the comments to get some affirmation in my very strong belief that Tonina 100000% did this and yall did not disappoint. Thank you for restoring my faith in humanity after this physically painful case.
@eventhorizonabyss9337
@eventhorizonabyss9337 18 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I did, watched and wondered if I was confused about who was eventually convicted, because I thought it had to have been the daughter. That poor mom.
@dizzymindy6024
@dizzymindy6024 6 күн бұрын
Tonina did it
@Skoshtwo
@Skoshtwo 14 күн бұрын
The fact that this self-centered psychopath is not behind bars scares me.
@meganthemom
@meganthemom 5 ай бұрын
I can’t get over how bizarre this entire thing is. ALL OF THEM are the weirdest people I’ve ever seen in a true crime case.
@iNEEDANAPx
@iNEEDANAPx 5 ай бұрын
Tonnia did it. There’s no other way. I can’t believe her mom got convicted. The mom might have helped but it was all tonnia!
@shanecharles4589
@shanecharles4589 5 ай бұрын
no the mom did it, but i feel like Tonini knew and maybe even encouraged her. She is projecting her own jealousy when she talks about people being jealous of her being so pretty (LOL.)@@iNEEDANAPx
@samhain1894
@samhain1894 5 ай бұрын
@@iNEEDANAPxI’m only about half way through, but that’s my thought too.
@meganthemom
@meganthemom 5 ай бұрын
@@Saphia-lu1tq I can’t believe the detectives are just casually seeming like everything Tonina is pretty much normal. I’ve never heard anything sound more insane and weird ESPECIALLY when discussing their 4 year old nephew being dead. ESP after they’ve listened to the 911 call!?!
@lisabosnak7581
@lisabosnak7581 5 ай бұрын
All guilty
@springsteenguy
@springsteenguy 5 ай бұрын
Tonina is that person who does a 15 minute maid-of-honor speech where she talks about herself more than the couple. She’s so inwardly focused and mentally ill that she was flattered when the detective complimented her on CPR.
@Jas-fr8cu
@Jas-fr8cu 5 ай бұрын
I cannot get over that part.
@camilabonfadini3332
@camilabonfadini3332 5 ай бұрын
And she didn't even do good cpr, probably not at all lmao
@emilycarter2492
@emilycarter2492 5 ай бұрын
Agreed. Her extreme levels of narcissism and grandiosity are difficult to listen to, especially coupled with her annoying and immature pattern of speech. She sounds like a bragging 11 year old who everyone avoids at all cost. This type of personality never has friends, they have hostages that are always looking for a way to escape having to deal with her in any way. She is absolutely insufferable.
@cpcattin
@cpcattin 5 ай бұрын
Great analogy.
@inkstain7193
@inkstain7193 5 ай бұрын
Just reminded me of my sisters maid of honor. She did that.😂😂😂
@vanessaswayze1456
@vanessaswayze1456 Ай бұрын
there is something about this family that just makes my skin crawl
@han1508
@han1508 12 күн бұрын
The dad is so lucky
@neura3964
@neura3964 Күн бұрын
they are Borgias after all
@JamesyWaddell
@JamesyWaddell Ай бұрын
Is it just me or is this the most obvious crime of a fussed over duaghter kills her nephew and then spends a few hours explaining to her mother ( who is very ill ) to take the blame . This is the reason the mum is pacing. This is the reason the mum says she doesnt want anything to do with the 911 call. This is the reason when talking to Vicky all the mum seems to worry about is how to set Tonita up with a place to stay . food and her sewing business. This is why the mum was so stunned, she knew she was giving up the rest of her life for Tonita. Thia is why Tonitas recalection of events change every time she speaks of what happened that awfull morning. This is why Tonita still to this day referes to her nephew as "THAT LITTLE BOY" This is why Tonita answered the 911 call as if ordering a pizza. The shock had worn off. Her Nephew died at arround 3am. This is why she walked by her nephew still in the bath to call 911. This is why she changes the subject when speaking to investigators. like fishing when she remarked " Could i have been sleepwalking " This is why it was a half hearted attempt at CPR. Tonita knew the nephew had been dead for at least 2-3 hours. No wonder the mother was pacing around shocked. I mean she kept telling Vicky she loved the kid and his mum will be so sad. I never ever heard Tonita mention that anyone else would be sad. upset thier kid had died....... It was the Tonita show. She knew her devoted mum would take the fall for her but her mum still showed compassion when talking to Vicky asking how the boys mum was and telling Vicky how much she loved the kid and how sorry she was this had happened... But the mum couldnt bring herself to tell Vicky her sister Tonita actually did this. And this is what kept Vicky confussed /Upset with her mums answers.. Watch this again with all these things in mind. IT IS SO BLATANT TONITA DROWNED HER NEPHEW AROUND 3am AND SPWNT A FEW HOURS CONVINCING HER MUM TO TAKE THE FALL. WITH HER MUM ALREADY BEING ILL SHE JUST STARTED PACING AND WORRYING ABOUT HER BELOVED DAUGHTER AND ALSO SHOCKED AT THE DEATH OF HER GRANDCHILD. THATS WHY SHE NEVER WANTED TO ACTUALLY TALK TO VICKY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE SPECIFIC TIME OF THE BOYS DEATH. TONITA KILLED THE CHILD AND GOT HER MUM ON BOARD TO TAKE THE FALL..POOR OLD ILL WOMAN. I THINK THE GRANDMOTHER IS PORTRAYED SO WRONGLY ON HERE. TONITA NEW SHE WAS ILL AND GOT HER CAUGHT UP IN DEFENDING HER TILL THE END.
@A.M.0000
@A.M.0000 Ай бұрын
Or a sociopath messed up on all sorts of antipsychotic meds convinced a woman who probably should have been in a mental institution herself that she was the one who did it. She convinced her mom that she snapped. My second theory is that they are both so severely mentally ill, so Tonina is actually in some way trying to cover for her mom by making the case more complicated. The only thing that makes me believe the mom did it, is the fact that she had injuries that were consistent with a struggle.
@iwatchtoomuchtruecrime
@iwatchtoomuchtruecrime Ай бұрын
100%!
@Oleoay
@Oleoay 27 күн бұрын
Its possible that the marks on Terry (the grandmom) weren't from the kid struggling, but were from Tonina trying to "convince" Terry to take the blame.
@JamesyWaddell
@JamesyWaddell 27 күн бұрын
@@Oleoay True!!
@d.froggiez369
@d.froggiez369 20 күн бұрын
I read in another thread that it was reported in a Detroit newspaper that during a prison visit the mom whispered to DeAngelo's mom that she didn't do it.... Haven't had time to look for it myself though
@patrickoconnor1279
@patrickoconnor1279 5 ай бұрын
“I totally need counseling,” she says. Detective responds, “You’re definitely a candidate.” Understatement of the year.
@MoAli-wm4of
@MoAli-wm4of 5 ай бұрын
Underrated comment rite here ...
@dantevxv1501
@dantevxv1501 5 ай бұрын
She needs a new smoke alarm battery aswell
@zwaggerblack543
@zwaggerblack543 5 ай бұрын
Legit 😂
@SoundOfOceanBlue
@SoundOfOceanBlue 5 ай бұрын
I think she needs a reality check more than anything
@teknowil
@teknowil 5 ай бұрын
@@dantevxv1501 that would drive me nuts too
@kristinageorge2944
@kristinageorge2944 3 ай бұрын
The idea of Tonina having kids is truly frightening.
@WTFOVER5
@WTFOVER5 2 ай бұрын
I immediately thought the same thing! That girl is truly insane!
@garybyers7683
@garybyers7683 Ай бұрын
same. there's always someone that desperate
@nikkijennings834
@nikkijennings834 Ай бұрын
I thought the same! I pray those innocent littles are safe and being treated as they deserve!
@user-gf1to3ll4e
@user-gf1to3ll4e Ай бұрын
My wife said the same thing…
@dahlearose279
@dahlearose279 Ай бұрын
I literally am listening to her talk half way threw video n just thought this
@jamesporter3761
@jamesporter3761 Ай бұрын
The amount of unchecked narcissistic personality disorder just roaming free is haunting to think about
@onelifedontwasteit8568
@onelifedontwasteit8568 25 күн бұрын
The amount of times people use this new catch phrase is more scary. They exist and can only be diagnosed by a qualified person…. which you are not.
@antiproductive4131
@antiproductive4131 9 күн бұрын
Not gonna claim it's a fact but it seems more like BPD or Bipolar disorder, that usually includes narcissistic traits
@spook5223
@spook5223 3 күн бұрын
@@onelifedontwasteit8568ur more scared of someone calling a potential murderer narcissistic than the potential murderer themselves 🤣🤣
@Van_Ughhh
@Van_Ughhh 13 күн бұрын
Tonina “everything I’ve been through is so wrong. I just want to get through it and live a normal life”. Like WHAT?! Your sister lost her freaking SON! She will NEVER get over it and live a normal life. It’s so obvious she had something to do with it. The violent arguments, constant fighting, the crazy statements. Mom took the blame because Tonina was her “baby”.
@chelseydittrich5257
@chelseydittrich5257 5 ай бұрын
How Tonina wasn’t charged at all in any of this is beyond me. The detective put ZERO pressure on her despite changing her story multiple times and her strange comments throughout the entire interview process. It’s baffling.
@veeveegarica2905
@veeveegarica2905 5 ай бұрын
I was waiting to hear that they locked up the mother and the daughter too but nope...
@TBonerton
@TBonerton 5 ай бұрын
This investigator is a classic example of promotion based on years served rather than aptitude and ability. He spends too much time talking and not enough time listening.
@TheLmoney420
@TheLmoney420 5 ай бұрын
Yeah this detective really screwed the pooch on this one. 🤦🏼‍♂️. The mom is in jail - because she’s pathetic and is sticking up for and taking the blame for her psychotic daughter. Yet Tonina, who acted so bizarrely during this whole thing, lied several times and overall seems like the one who killed the kid - gets zero consequences 😡
@dianekleitz4926
@dianekleitz4926 5 ай бұрын
I think Tonina did it and the mother took the blame
@chimom7112
@chimom7112 5 ай бұрын
​@@dianekleitz4926 I think it's possible they both had a hand in it. Both are strange.
@MeMe-oh5qj
@MeMe-oh5qj 5 ай бұрын
The mother referring to her 25 year old daughter as “ the little one” as well as making sure she could go live with her sister made it clear to me that the mother is taking the fall.
@hSquaredSunshine
@hSquaredSunshine 5 ай бұрын
I agree. It seems to me that Tonina is a "the queen"... She's 25 but had no job... she just partied and sewed... no other responsibilities. If the house only has 2 bathrooms & her bedroom has a dedicated bathroom, Tonina slept in the master bedroom - even though it's her mom's apartment. She is completely self-absorbed and paints herself as a victim constantly - even now. Everyone is out to get her, talking about her and treating her badly. It wouldn't surprise me if she drowned her nephew out of jealousy and let her mom take the consequences. If Tonina has her own kids, I'd be worried about them.
@doug132639
@doug132639 4 ай бұрын
What a load of b0llocks . My oldest son and I refer to my youngest son as the little one .( he's 6foot 4 inches and about 250lbs .so I mean not everyone says the youngest one . A good lawyer would laugh and say , I say the same about my children ... so it doesn't mean anything.. very poor explanation ..
@lara-skye
@lara-skye 4 ай бұрын
@@hSquaredSunshineAgreed!! in the interview she had with them, she brought up having CPS at her door constantly. So she’s clearly got some people watching her
@KiamichiOzarks
@KiamichiOzarks 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone ever ask either one of these two women what drugs they had been taking the night of his death?
@LisMarWay
@LisMarWay 4 ай бұрын
YES!!!!! That’s EXACTLY what I’m thinking. You can tell the daughter is a narcissist. How aweful to let ur mentally fragile mother go to prison for you
@sassyrae92
@sassyrae92 14 күн бұрын
Tonina killed that little boy and blamed her mother, who was clearly too mentally disturbed herself to be able to properly defend herself. The fact that she still plays victim to this day, is absolutely disgusting. The only real victim is that poor child and his mother and father
@bethechange6704
@bethechange6704 28 күн бұрын
She never even said what she remembered about him 😢She even made that question about herself and how hard she has it 🤮
@fe3613
@fe3613 30 минут бұрын
Right? I thought that was the most brazenly self centered thing she did
@c.r.8815
@c.r.8815 5 ай бұрын
Totally blown away when she said that in 2009 she was a supermodel and people were jealous of her success and wanted to tear her down. MA'AM.
@janetfain6389
@janetfain6389 5 ай бұрын
I found that weird, too. During the second interview, she seemed to attempt to play the interrogator somewhat, playing on his sympathies, responding so positively to his comments regarding the CPR attempt, wanting him to validate her efforts, etc. Her constant deflection was such a red flag. I have to wonder if there had been another interrogator if more detail could have been elicited.
@daisycake
@daisycake 5 ай бұрын
I rolled my eyes and groaned out loud when she said that shit
@shantini2911
@shantini2911 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@heatherchandler1184
@heatherchandler1184 5 ай бұрын
💀💀💀
@laurierice7687
@laurierice7687 5 ай бұрын
A supermodel?! She isn't in this reality. I wonder if that's why she had her boob job top & center. It took up half my screen!
@Nayo68
@Nayo68 Ай бұрын
This case should be reopened and investigate again. Because maybe they are letting a killer geting away with it.
@hollydavis5498
@hollydavis5498 Ай бұрын
They did let the murderer get away
@Sadidesifamily
@Sadidesifamily Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@METurtleSHELL-ri4he
@METurtleSHELL-ri4he Ай бұрын
Yeh… she was a naughty girl… 😮
@datgurlky1
@datgurlky1 29 күн бұрын
Maybe? They need to reopen.
@Sonicalltheway
@Sonicalltheway 20 күн бұрын
I also think that the investigator interviewing Ton (a nickname out of disrespect) got a little too flustered and impatient.
@cathrynesten4364
@cathrynesten4364 15 күн бұрын
Omg when she asked the detective if he thought she was a bad artist...
@moshqueen8266
@moshqueen8266 15 күн бұрын
“The law is a travesty” “The law is awful” Sure is, Tonina. They let YOU get away with murder.
@oliviad3326
@oliviad3326 3 ай бұрын
Why does it feel like no one in the family is recognizing Deangelo as like, a real person?? This is so incredibly weird and they all act so aloof and detached
@michelleMc2024
@michelleMc2024 3 ай бұрын
Right? It's like he was totally expendable and no one really gives a shit other than the inconvenience of it all.
@Rachely24
@Rachely24 3 ай бұрын
Right?? It's so strange.. like they have zero emotion when talking about him. It's like they're talking about someone they've never met.
@jessicawinter2938
@jessicawinter2938 2 ай бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. The aunt is like “yeah my nephew drowned can you send someone please?” Like wut. Who says that calmly.
@Muychiflada08
@Muychiflada08 2 ай бұрын
Very detached 😢
@nate6795
@nate6795 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s super weird. They all care more about each other than the little innocent baby boy. It’s insane.
@klippitykloppity
@klippitykloppity 5 ай бұрын
The nonchalant way Tonina was telling the 911 operator her "nephew just drowned in the bathtub, can you send somebody over?" like she's just calling for a cab. It was disturbing than immediately became sickening when she realized the Operator had actual concern for poor DeAngelo, and she tried to act like she did, too. Horrifying
@agiraffe3673
@agiraffe3673 5 ай бұрын
That exactly, I was like what the hell. Then something he said made her realize she should be upset and her tone changed to sobbing and frantic. That first sentence was chilling though.
@lacycygan5365
@lacycygan5365 5 ай бұрын
It’s scary how they mask to blend in
@lummymanpix
@lummymanpix 5 ай бұрын
even the operator was confused he was like wtf did you just say so casually??
@leoabel524
@leoabel524 5 ай бұрын
After repeating he "just" drowned she then contradicts herself during the call saying he was there (in the tub) for an maybe an hour or so.
@johnfox1991
@johnfox1991 5 ай бұрын
exactly, exactly! out of this almost 2 hours of out-of-this-world interview with a lot of crazy sh*t, I almost forgot about this part I got that immediately too, she talked about it like she was ordering fast food or something but after watching the whole video, I'm convinced that this woman is broken beyond repair. She is genuinely brain-damaged.
@BusyBody704
@BusyBody704 13 күн бұрын
These are collectively, some of the craziest people I have ever seen and heard. The detectives included. I have never! RIP, DeAngelo.
@ND-or5so
@ND-or5so Ай бұрын
Tonina was feeling guilty and sounded like her own question "was I sleep walking?" was a confession.
@c.stinson
@c.stinson 5 ай бұрын
I believe Tonina did it. She shows no emotions, constantly changes the subject to not answer questions, keeps trying to get the detective to tell her she's innocent and her story is so inconsistent.
@anacondamaltliquor6416
@anacondamaltliquor6416 5 ай бұрын
I tend to agree and i think her mother is taking the fall for her.
@bhumikjoshi4573
@bhumikjoshi4573 5 ай бұрын
There were marks on her mother.
@Krazy4Pink_Kerry
@Krazy4Pink_Kerry 5 ай бұрын
I legit had the exact same thought. I think either she did it and her mum is taking the fall for her or Tonina did it on a way to make her mum think she actually did it soo like gaslighting her. So like Tonina did something to that poor boy but was able to make it seem like it was her mum who did it and she was just asleep conveniently and so it can’t have ANYTHING to do with her. That’s why the mum keeps saying she doesn’t know. She is in her own head and is soo confused but because she has been gaslit by Tonina she thinks it’s her fault but just don’t know what happened. I hope that makes sense.
@brianhanley2933
@brianhanley2933 5 ай бұрын
@@anacondamaltliquor6416exacty what I thought. Moms covering for her train wreck daughter. The weird stuff in her room defecting questions making her mom look crazy. Not taking meds for a year. I’d like to know how much of the medication was in her blood if any. She made no sense. Either that or she convinced her mom she did it Ashe seemed very suggestive
@TezzyRs
@TezzyRs 5 ай бұрын
there were marks on her mother and none on tonina. tonina is very clearly mentally unwell and unstable. thats the most clear fact of this case. you cant look at her interview under the same microscope as a normal person.
@ASMRwithSid
@ASMRwithSid Ай бұрын
Tonina is clearly a pathological liar. She made it to the hospital just in time to be told DeAngelo didn’t make it, but then turns around and says she was in the room with him, holding his hand, when he turned purple and passed away. There are SO many inconsistencies in her stories and it is mind blowing she’s not in jail.
@erowry22
@erowry22 Ай бұрын
Exactly! Then she said he was already blue in the bathroom. How did you see him turn blue and pass away in the hospital???
@redshirt49
@redshirt49 Ай бұрын
Seems to me Tonina is doing her damndest to make everyone think she's the one responsible. Note how she was taken aback that they found evidence of a struggle on her mom. She freezes for a moment, then immediately implicates herself. Is it maybe just extreme denial that her mother was responsible for this? Or did she know her mom did this all along and is trying, quite poorly, to implicate herself instead. That might explain why she let the boy float in the tub while she called 911. She might already have been aware that not only was he dead, but he'd been that way since long before she even woke up that day. That would also explain why police didn't give her the time of day, regardless of how obviously suspicious her stories are. But well, who knows what the truth of it is. In any case, it's clear Tonina's got her own issues. Her sudden mood swings certainly do line up if she's being treated for bipolar. Her constant changing of the story also lines up with that, especially if she's off her meds like Vicki claims. It's a bit baffling that the sisters trusted these two women with a laundry list of mental health problems each with their children unsupervised. The truth is either one could have done it. The physical evidence points to Terry, so that's who they nailed to the wall.
@Morphfiend
@Morphfiend Ай бұрын
I think this is right. The mom said to vicki that she thought everything took a toll on her and she snapped. Then her making the comment on his voice. ​@redshirt49
@FEED_ME_A_STRAY_CAT
@FEED_ME_A_STRAY_CAT Ай бұрын
And not even a good liar!! Yikesss
@rainystormcloud7499
@rainystormcloud7499 Ай бұрын
Ditto,.. She clearly did it!!! I hate that her sick mother had to take that fall. This detective SUCKS.
@lucysnowe31
@lucysnowe31 28 күн бұрын
I have a sneaking suspicion that Tonina's family doesn't keep in touch with her ......
@Naustix
@Naustix 27 күн бұрын
"I feel like it's just mind tricks" Tonina, I feel mind tricked just watching this video. I'm at least 1% stupider now, from watching your interviews.
@zekumi
@zekumi 5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen literally hundreds of police interrogations in my life, and Tonina is by a large margin the most mentally unwell person I’ve ever seen interviewed by police.
@ZazVocals
@ZazVocals 5 ай бұрын
DITTO
@JayLesykWx
@JayLesykWx 5 ай бұрын
perfectly said
@danhaley4465
@danhaley4465 5 ай бұрын
Definitely
@fluxeww3995
@fluxeww3995 5 ай бұрын
bro theres definitely been way more mentally unwell people interviewed here, but yeah she is bat shit crazy lol
@DebbieW1965
@DebbieW1965 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯% correct!
@IratePuffin
@IratePuffin 5 ай бұрын
She totally did it and let mom take the fall. The fact that this woman has kids is absolutely terrifying.
@caseylooong
@caseylooong 5 ай бұрын
AGREE! Mom might have been mentally unwell too, but I think part of that could be caused by dealing with her daughter. Having a crazy person in the house-- narcissistic, violent, bipolar, selfish-- takes its toll. Maybe she was "pacing" so much because she was worried about her daughter. Tonina's psychosis is obvious, but she is able to do a lot of self-preservation. Why she chose to kill that child? Maybe to hurt her sisters that she clearly had anger towards. Just. Wow.
@VenusDoom446
@VenusDoom446 5 ай бұрын
I think she did it too. And how mom got bruises was probably because Tonina abused her too.
@bettygrimes5614
@bettygrimes5614 5 ай бұрын
Give me a break, that tonina is guilty as hell. All the different stories she told and now seeing her interview and the lies she's still telling is despicable. This woman has no compassion and everything is all about her, what about your poor poor mother, and the young nephew you tragically lost? You deserve all the worst for the rest of your life.
@joshowawood1786
@joshowawood1786 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Tonina may be crazy but she definitely staged the whole thing and the Mom is just assuming she did it because she’s so mentally unwell and loves Tonina too much, plus thinks she’s her innocent little girl.
@CH-nf3pz
@CH-nf3pz 5 ай бұрын
completely agree, she's 100% guilty
@KayleighHughes-ci7gs
@KayleighHughes-ci7gs 15 күн бұрын
Wow, just wow. The daughter sounds absolutely nuts !!!
@camilam3975
@camilam3975 13 күн бұрын
Tonina did it and she manipulated her mom into taking the blame. Especially since her mom infantilizes her, her mom probably felt this deep sense of duty to protect he as if she were still a child. The bruises her mom had were probably done by Tonina as well. This is infuriating, she should be in prison for life.
@THEpopelonergan
@THEpopelonergan 5 ай бұрын
The fact Tonina has children is TERRIFYING. I really hope the Dad has full custody.
@jimmyzhao2673
@jimmyzhao2673 5 ай бұрын
The mental illness may be hereditary, the kids might grow up to be monsters.
@MB-ml8ti
@MB-ml8ti 5 ай бұрын
​@irineumaiden show your peer reviewed research on this one. How ridiculous.
@LadiShizz84
@LadiShizz84 5 ай бұрын
Exactly, that’s my thing too like whet? 😮🤨
@shaylatorch
@shaylatorch 5 ай бұрын
​@@irineumaiden,WOW, how totally untrue that statement is!!! I know plenty of Father's who want their children & NOT for vengeance
@LinTrueCrimeProject
@LinTrueCrimeProject 5 ай бұрын
​@@shaylatorchI do too, but sadly the statement is true and many just want to take custody to avoid child support.
@tompilkington7379
@tompilkington7379 Ай бұрын
She is absolutely right that our justice system is tragically flawed. Horrible how mom died in prison.
@dahliamaiden2044
@dahliamaiden2044 14 күн бұрын
I think it’s crazy how Tonina blamed her mother for what “Tonina” did to her nephew because she’s GUILTY for that!!! What a fuckin horrible person she is and I can’t believe she got away with that it’s disgusting 🤢 😡😡
@gidgetmarasek1927
@gidgetmarasek1927 4 ай бұрын
When she said in 2009 people were jealous because she was a supermodel I SCREAMED. The biggest narcissist I have ever seen.
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley Ай бұрын
Detective. 'You know its gonna be different around your house now.' Tonina 'The scheme?' 'Huh?' 'The scheme. The paint scheme. Is it bad? I thought you said it was different. In a bad way? Maybe I'll change it' WHAT... THE... FUDGE.. 😮😮
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349 5 ай бұрын
No, I’m sorry just the way that she said, “hi, my nephew, just drowned in the bathtub”, it’s already over for me. That’s insanity.
@joannewilson1483
@joannewilson1483 5 ай бұрын
Lunatics I agree family have an illness and can’t communicate talk talk a say nothing ya ya ya that chick who did cpr oh man
@JesusIsAlphaOmega001
@JesusIsAlphaOmega001 5 ай бұрын
Its a small world. Im a subscriber of yours.
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349 5 ай бұрын
@@JesusIsAlphaOmega001 ahhaaa! that's funny we're true crime buffs maybe ? I know I am, this one is almost too disturbing for me
@JubrieI
@JubrieI 5 ай бұрын
You could actually hear the responder doing a double take. It was such strange behavior.
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349 5 ай бұрын
@@JubrieI "What did you just say??"
@pikathechao3701
@pikathechao3701 28 күн бұрын
A sociopath and a compulsive liar, Tonina one hundred percent did it.
@markc9847
@markc9847 29 күн бұрын
Tonina, needs to be brought to justice. SHES NOW A MOTHER, GOD HELP THOSE CHILDREN
@What.a.train.wreck.
@What.a.train.wreck. 5 ай бұрын
The minute she walked in and explained why she wasn’t crying, and made it a point to say that she cried on the way there, told me everything I needed to know about who was guilty
@zapbrannigannn
@zapbrannigannn 4 ай бұрын
AMBERLYNN!
@charlotteetienne1371
@charlotteetienne1371 4 ай бұрын
👍💯 same. Not saying Deangelo’s name might be a way to dehumanize him to put him away from her. Stories changing… all of this too made it clear she’s in it. Aren’t any of them sad??? Weird … RIP Deangelo 🌺
@VerilyBadly
@VerilyBadly 4 ай бұрын
@@zapbrannigannnhahahahhahahaha
@daisie2458
@daisie2458 4 ай бұрын
omg gorl!!!
@Burlykim13
@Burlykim13 4 ай бұрын
I get it’s a commonly repeated comment, but imagine people judging you on ONE sentence in your life and think that defines you…YOU would be screwed. 😂 While it is absolutely odd and suspicious, it really shouldn’t be the only thing you need to hear. The combination of MANY things she said and did is what should be taken into consideration.
@kimberliepopovich5960
@kimberliepopovich5960 3 ай бұрын
This family doesn't act normal. When she called 911 she acted like she was ording a pizza. The lack of emotion kills me, this is her nephew. Unbelievable!
@scorchy_girl9820
@scorchy_girl9820 2 ай бұрын
"Hello, yes, my nephew drowned in the tub. I haven't taken him out or done anything, but I did call you praise me
@notronsivart
@notronsivart 2 ай бұрын
@@scorchy_girl9820"
@lucretiasaywat9397
@lucretiasaywat9397 2 ай бұрын
You can tell she realized based on the 911 operators incredulous response that she should be acting more upset.
@elleruach2301
@elleruach2301 2 ай бұрын
"I didn't order a peet-zahhh"
@theoboegoddess
@theoboegoddess 2 ай бұрын
Completely agree. That’s bone chilling how casual she was. I would be screaming bloody murder doing everything possible! My nephews are my world! This was a LITTLE child! Who could do this to an innocent baby? I’ll never understand
@Master_supreme
@Master_supreme 13 күн бұрын
Totino’s pizza did it and let her mom die in prison for something she did, Something is definitely not right with her and she’s so into herself, How tf did she not get charged! Rip Deangelo 😢
@tammygardner5760
@tammygardner5760 25 күн бұрын
She's so guilty!! Her story has changed a hundred times. How could the police not even consider her to be the killer??
@joduh4665
@joduh4665 10 күн бұрын
I would be amazed if they did not feel the same way, but what are they supposed to do? If they dont have physical evidence, both her statement that mom confessed AND mom confessing.
@___Lyric___
@___Lyric___ 8 күн бұрын
I think they were probably suspicious of it but couldn’t prove it and her mom took the fall for her.
@marianapoles
@marianapoles 5 ай бұрын
What scares me is learning that Tonina had kids of her own later in life.She is so mentally ill I can't imagine her as a mother at any point in her life.
@tjohnson7811
@tjohnson7811 5 ай бұрын
That’s the scariest part…
@jessicam7467
@jessicam7467 5 ай бұрын
I agree!
@stanislavglut782
@stanislavglut782 5 ай бұрын
Thats scary af😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨😨
@user-uu8ig5hs1l
@user-uu8ig5hs1l 5 ай бұрын
She'll be one of those wearing a coat, talking to herself, and pushing a shopping cart in the middle of summer.
@brandongreene9615
@brandongreene9615 5 ай бұрын
She 100% killed her nephew
@Monique.Marceline
@Monique.Marceline Ай бұрын
“She’s just a baby. She’s 25.” Wow.
@justmelissa7010
@justmelissa7010 Ай бұрын
The grandmother is covering for her daughter
@jenniferstarr4016
@jenniferstarr4016 Ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@CandyKG28
@CandyKG28 Ай бұрын
Yeah the age of 25 is when young adults are supposed to have finally, mentally matured to their potential. It's scary that she still acts and is treated like she's 15 years old.
@IttyBitty412
@IttyBitty412 Ай бұрын
@@CandyKG28 I didn't start maturing till I was 30, but nah she's a weirdo and I think she maybe had something to do with it and the mom wants to protect her or maybe even think she did it?? I don't know... I'd say 25 is a baby though for sure hah
@IttyBitty412
@IttyBitty412 Ай бұрын
@@justmelissa7010 She's absolutely covering for her. Especially with the "nobody killed him" statement... that makes me suspicious too.... like wouldn't she have said "IIII didn't kill him" if she killed him???
@codywilliams6057
@codywilliams6057 Ай бұрын
Wow that 911 call was something else. The way she so casually says her nephew drowned.
@abbyleighreynolds7376
@abbyleighreynolds7376 29 күн бұрын
Then she starts crying realizing the 911 operator is like wtf did you just say?
@laurawarren2801
@laurawarren2801 29 күн бұрын
That 911 dispatcher. Bless him. My son is turning 4 in may. This brought tears to my eyes.
@Marie-en5pv
@Marie-en5pv Ай бұрын
It was such a struggle to continue listening to the daughter, Tonina. She was all over the place and so self-absorbed.
@Gilded_Cage_Princess
@Gilded_Cage_Princess 29 күн бұрын
Yep.
@dharmallars
@dharmallars 29 күн бұрын
“I’m an *artist,* so when you walk into my room you’ll probably be scared.” “Yeah, I’ve heard it’s different.” “What does that mean??? You think I’m a bad artist???”
@MammaM1217
@MammaM1217 26 күн бұрын
Right, the sudden subject changes and talking in circles
@MammaBear.
@MammaBear. 25 күн бұрын
Classic narcissist. She’s probably a psychopath.
@Cowabungas
@Cowabungas 5 ай бұрын
I’m not putting blame on the mother but my god how could someone trust either of these people with children. They’re both insufferably insane.
@jeanbeans7926
@jeanbeans7926 5 ай бұрын
I know right, baffling as all heck.
@sangaristicx9046
@sangaristicx9046 5 ай бұрын
Victim blaming at best.
@mrsplurple
@mrsplurple 5 ай бұрын
People lack healthy levels of skepticism and suspicion.
@Nikki-B03
@Nikki-B03 5 ай бұрын
Well I'll blame the mother because she should still want justice for the death of her son, no matter who is at fault... That's a mother
@Peachjive
@Peachjive 5 ай бұрын
@@sangaristicx9046I mean all the signs are there, if I was the mother of that child and put him in their care I would blame myself too.
@ashkkramer
@ashkkramer 13 күн бұрын
Oh Hell. The Aunt killed her nephew and used her mother’s dementia as cover. The issue is the grandmother had wounds that could result from a struggling 4 year old. So it doesn’t add up.
@iriscast10
@iriscast10 14 күн бұрын
Its hearbreaking to see all these adults and noone of them show emotions about the babys death. They care more about themselvss.
@HavaWM
@HavaWM 4 ай бұрын
You know it’s wild when the woman calls 911 and is so casual about her nephew being dead that it throws the 911 operator off his stride. She was SOOO matter of fact about it. “My nephew is dead. Can you send someone?” Like she’s asking for a table to be cleared after a meal at a restaurant 🤦🏻‍♀️ This woman is crazy, and more than a little terrifying.
@Igot99biasesbutseungriaint1
@Igot99biasesbutseungriaint1 4 ай бұрын
Yup, and then all of a sudden she started "crying".
@fuhque9132
@fuhque9132 4 ай бұрын
People respond to trauma in different ways. Some go into shock and dissociate and enter a dream-like state without processing the traumatic experience they just went through or are currently going through, some become hysterical, some lash out and become aggressive, etc, etc. It's a good thing most _(hopefully)_ of the commenters here are not in positions of authority within our criminal justice system, because a *LOT* of innocent people would be in prison right now based solely on the clear lack of understanding of psychology being displayed here. *Fucking yikes.*
@cynthiawilson5066
@cynthiawilson5066 4 ай бұрын
Then about 2 minutes into 911 call. Starts bawling what a joke
@swere1240
@swere1240 4 ай бұрын
shes clearly a nut job and doesnt have normal emotions but that doesnt mean she had anything to do with it i think she was probly off her meds and was just going off the deepend. which she should be after what happened
@sharonwoodard1008
@sharonwoodard1008 4 ай бұрын
​@fuhque9132 I feel for them but sorry they are a bit strange somthing is going on more then reactions to shock. They obviously have some mental illness
@jordanleighwheatley
@jordanleighwheatley 5 ай бұрын
Tonina, i know you are absolutely reading these comments. Shame on you for letting your mom die in prison. I absolutely believe that your mom took the fall for you. I feel so sorry for your sisters for having to be related to you. I hope someday you take responsibility for what youve done and the role you played.
@BrandNewBlueShoes
@BrandNewBlueShoes 5 ай бұрын
She's a narcissist (I'm not one to throw this word about easily). She won't take responsibility, unfortunately. Even now, she probably feels she was justified and self-entitled.
@RotaryPoweredRX
@RotaryPoweredRX 5 ай бұрын
Tonina is a monster and her mother is still guilty for taking part either way both are awful people, and even her sister Vicki sounded like a weirdo. " i love you mom i love you so much even though my nephew is d**d"
@SavvyMuhon
@SavvyMuhon 5 ай бұрын
@@RotaryPoweredRX I mean, she had to help her keep calm. Plus, it’s her mom. I think it’s one of those situations where you don’t really know what you would do unless it happens to you.
@RotaryPoweredRX
@RotaryPoweredRX 5 ай бұрын
@@SavvyMuhon it's just such a bizarre situation, and the whole thing reeks
@SavvyMuhon
@SavvyMuhon 5 ай бұрын
@@RotaryPoweredRX I don’t disagree
@thistles
@thistles 23 күн бұрын
Tonina reminds me of a schizophrenic girl I used to know. She would compulsively lie about everything, speaking with total conviction, but changing her story on a dime. A conversation with her was like a slow descent into Wonderland.
@Hucci007
@Hucci007 Ай бұрын
We need to get justice for that little guy!! Tonina need to go to jail!!
@rizzitalo4469
@rizzitalo4469 Ай бұрын
Not the “I just started taking the meds a month ago” and in the next sentence “I’ve been on them for a year”
@megmoo96
@megmoo96 Ай бұрын
yeah how come there was *zero* mention of that ?? lol
@sarab9332
@sarab9332 Ай бұрын
She also referred to Deangelo as “my sister’s nephew “
@TransgendrAceWithGayestOfGrace
@TransgendrAceWithGayestOfGrace Ай бұрын
@@sarab9332that was arguably the weirdest thing she could’ve possibly said
@Only0N3Dest
@Only0N3Dest Ай бұрын
Quarter inch of water..6 inches of water..close enough smh
@sarahelizabeth2782
@sarahelizabeth2782 Ай бұрын
Yeah, prescribed over a year ago, only took em cuz she was hospitalized in the last few months and the meds needed to be in her system cuz these ppl are manipulating the system for ssi, they are straight up gypsies‼️😩
@Knd8035
@Knd8035 5 ай бұрын
The fact that they were so UNWILLING to breathe for Deangelo during the 911 call, simply infuriates me.
@roberth2833
@roberth2833 5 ай бұрын
Why help the person you killed.
@pat-paterson
@pat-paterson 5 ай бұрын
the grandma said she was good 😵 'you do it!'
@GraveYardShif7
@GraveYardShif7 5 ай бұрын
That daughter was involved in the murder as well. All she talks about is herself. She never mentions how terrible it was for the child.
@ldavanzo44
@ldavanzo44 5 ай бұрын
Me too wtf!
@Mikeanglo
@Mikeanglo 5 ай бұрын
@@roberth2833 Because you want to seem innocent? The aunt is 100% schizophrenic though, and being medicated for it, so there's that.
@Brandon_Wallis
@Brandon_Wallis 14 күн бұрын
Tonina did it, mother would rather rot in jail then see her daughter there. There’s a reason why all she ever asked about was where she was or how she was doing because she knew she was the guilty one all along and didn’t want the police to catch on. Tonina is absolutely psychotic and still is to this very day. I’m scared for anyone that could potentially come in contact with her
@intothemystic5223
@intothemystic5223 28 күн бұрын
Tonina did it. Grandma/her mom is covering for her. Tonina, if you're reading this- GET THE HELP YOU CLEARLY NEED BEFORE YOU HURT SOMEONE ELSE
@xxdiewildxx8140
@xxdiewildxx8140 26 күн бұрын
And if you get to read mine Tonina, you're a POS and if your kids are reading this, RUN
@Dom-ob7eg
@Dom-ob7eg Ай бұрын
Reopen this case !!! Justice for Deangelo
@InspektoraDeFrutas
@InspektoraDeFrutas 21 күн бұрын
Apparently, the mother of the child was cuckoo herself! Husband probably too. A narcissistic psycho fam through and through, in short. The child is better off in heaven, hands down! God forbid to have a “family” like this! And I thought my relatives were mad as hell… well, apparently, there are even worse one 😳😳 Well, at least mine haven’t yet murdered any born humans. Yet.
@MarchionessDarby62
@MarchionessDarby62 20 күн бұрын
And justice for Terry.
@JayLesykWx
@JayLesykWx 5 ай бұрын
this is the perfect example of a case that needs to be reopened for investigation. Tonina is definitely involved in this. I’m not gonna go into detail on everything (it’s all pretty self-explanatory and easy to see) but she makes several weird remarks and hints that she was definitely involved. Scary to think that she’s still out there
@Far_a_mir
@Far_a_mir 5 ай бұрын
I would love this to be reinvestigated and find out what really happened.
@laurieroark2632
@laurieroark2632 5 ай бұрын
Definitely!! Tonina needs to be arrested. I had enough of her show pretty early on. The investigators are only interested in getting getting her to snitch on mom. Mental illness is not something to be exploited. Excellence will gain yourself attention also.
@veronicawesson5772
@veronicawesson5772 5 ай бұрын
I believe she killed her nephew and the mother is taking the blame for it she should have been arrested also if she was so called doing cpr how did she know the paramedics went to the wrong door and then her clothes was dry both of there clothes was dry they changed into dry clothes they both are guilty
@MeredithHammett
@MeredithHammett 5 ай бұрын
@@veronicawesson5772can you imagine even allowing your own mother to spend the rest of her days in prison, whilst knowing she’s there bc of you. I wouldn’t be able to function. There’s no way in hell. Tonina is so sick.
@trisha2711
@trisha2711 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree - out there AND with children.
@MrQwayzarangel5
@MrQwayzarangel5 Ай бұрын
Tonina is certifiably nuts. Her illness is real, my son has it, but I still understand the interviewers frustration. The daughter was scared of losing her mom because I'm positive has no friends. The mom just flipped out and probably was on meds after her husband died that she may not had needed and was making her crazy. That poor baby to live with that and died due to family not looking past all the signs of a very dangerous environment.
@___Lyric___
@___Lyric___ 8 күн бұрын
I think Tonita is the one that did it and her mother took the fall. Tonita just has no empathy or emotion to her at all. She’s just blank and crazy and narcissistic.
@cunni3tv
@cunni3tv 19 күн бұрын
The fact she killed her nephew and allowed her mom to die in jail is disgusting, i hope life takes care of her soon. So sorry for the mother who lost her kid, her mom and her sister
@getfitwithtamilia9396
@getfitwithtamilia9396 5 ай бұрын
These detectives did a terrible job questioning her. They literally overlooked a LOT of odd things she said. I definitely believe she had something to do with her nephew's death. This is a sad case
@joanneshaw3071
@joanneshaw3071 5 ай бұрын
I felt the detective actually liked her!
@Robin_Coffins
@Robin_Coffins 5 ай бұрын
Mental health issues aside, these people are all fucking weird and bizarre and just not right.
@anettas.1751
@anettas.1751 5 ай бұрын
i think the same
@rafaelmonroy7406
@rafaelmonroy7406 5 ай бұрын
Had the same impression...
@cherylsahadeo2190
@cherylsahadeo2190 5 ай бұрын
😶💯💯
@kristinludwig4828
@kristinludwig4828 4 ай бұрын
It seems so completely obvious that the daughter did it, pinned it on her mom, and her mom took the blame so her “baby” wouldn’t have to go to jail. And the other sister had it all figured out. How the detective let her off the hook when she couldn’t keep her story straight is beyond me.
@starkjet2197
@starkjet2197 4 ай бұрын
That detective was a mess
@DeviceAnathema
@DeviceAnathema 4 ай бұрын
GRANDMom who didn't call THE police and refused to help. Right.
@JJ-ls8jo
@JJ-ls8jo 4 ай бұрын
​@@DeviceAnathemaI think she was genuinely in shock..trying to process what her daughter did and seeing her grandson dead. Then either by manipulation or choice deciding to take the rap. It's a messed up story. If the gran did it then most on the comments have also been duped. Poor lil Deangelo.😢
@cindyunderwood3991
@cindyunderwood3991 4 ай бұрын
​@@DeviceAnathema MOM "Tonina's MOM"
@swere1240
@swere1240 4 ай бұрын
the grandma had bruises and scrapes on her arms and im sure the detectives followed up on all the other evidence. i dont think tonina did it at all i just think shes batshit crazy maybe off her meds and cant properly convey emotions.
@cookiedoe6068
@cookiedoe6068 Ай бұрын
They didn’t even TRY to save that baby! They didn’t immediately remove him from the water and they didn’t want to give him rescue breaths. WHY did they want to make sure he died?!!
@esmestephens1999
@esmestephens1999 27 күн бұрын
The whole family is really emotionally blunted, that kind of apathy generally comes from severe trauma. I wonder what there family was really like behind closed doors. As for Tonina, I don’t think her rambling was an attempt to avoid answering questions. She has the a lot signs of Schizophrenia, her rambling was more like word soup even on the phone call. She also shows signs of paranoia, thinking that this was all just a big plot to hurt her and someone was out to get her. That poor child was left with two severely mentally ill people who could barely take care of themselves.
@TentinQuarantino_
@TentinQuarantino_ 5 ай бұрын
Tonina is a danger to herself and society and I cannot believe this police department just seemed completely disinterested in actually getting this case correct. It’s terrifying that she has kids of her own now.
@mizpike1683
@mizpike1683 5 ай бұрын
Omg! Seriously!? Hope the husband is keeping an eye on them. Goodlord!! That girl is totally insane!
@StephJ.9120
@StephJ.9120 5 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! 💯💔
@autumnleaf3667
@autumnleaf3667 5 ай бұрын
Yup. Mom covered for her
@looksirdroids9134
@looksirdroids9134 5 ай бұрын
Police aren't interested in actually solving a case.
@lindatullos9430
@lindatullos9430 5 ай бұрын
@@autumnleaf3667 No the mom had the fight marks on her. She 's the one who did it. Tonina knew though subconsciously .
@hunterlittlewood7181
@hunterlittlewood7181 5 ай бұрын
Three videos In a month? This is MY Christmas present! Thank you guys for the amazing hard work and have a great Holidays EWU -long time fan
@cassholevania5199
@cassholevania5199 5 ай бұрын
I wanna hit the like button more than once but I sadly can't. Well said!
@Fred_and_Brandy
@Fred_and_Brandy 5 ай бұрын
I know, I love these guys' channels❤
@truththe1689
@truththe1689 5 ай бұрын
Well, its alot of fuck ups out there
@LA1988yo
@LA1988yo 5 ай бұрын
KZbin is paying more money in december so its common for influencers to create more content.
@lauren5144
@lauren5144 5 ай бұрын
happy holidays!
@TheDisgruntledMechanic99
@TheDisgruntledMechanic99 15 күн бұрын
You can hear how confused and hurt the grandmother is, you can hear how the mother doesn’t have hatred or anger towards her mother who allegedly killed her child. But ummm uhhhh you can totally hear how this aunt can’t keep a story straight, dodges the authorities for court, and makes everything about her. This male detective got played and BOTCHED this case. Every bad thing in Tonina’s life was well deserved for her shameful actions against her mother and nephew.
@scottsthots6880
@scottsthots6880 6 күн бұрын
Can someone start a petition to reopen the case and charge Tonina. What she did to her nephew and mother was absolutely vile.
@keltarotreader
@keltarotreader 2 ай бұрын
I nearly choked when she said i was a supermodel and people are jealous , she reminds me of a friend i knew who was a fantasist and would lie and make up storys .
@Angelfire.
@Angelfire. 2 ай бұрын
She probably dreamed she was a super model, and is confusing it with reality.
@Yikkoofficial
@Yikkoofficial 2 ай бұрын
Yeah I had a friend like that too 😂😂😂
@DonnyTheDick-tator
@DonnyTheDick-tator 2 ай бұрын
Trump?
@brilyman
@brilyman 2 ай бұрын
She 100% a narcissist aint no way she didnt off her nephew
@LexyThomas134
@LexyThomas134 2 ай бұрын
@@DonnyTheDick-tator No. More like JB, you people just been lied to for so long the truth sounded ridiculous to you. There's a reason why Trump is leading by a lot in pretty much every single State and why he already has a 90% chance to win in November according to CNN JB lost to a nobody a few Tuesdays ago lol and his chances of winning in November after that loss dropped down to just 10%. Trump broke 3 records already and had a clean sweep. Even won in California and New Jersey which is VERY rare. BlacksForTrump2024 🇺🇸
@ij940
@ij940 5 ай бұрын
I am absolutely convinced that Tonina did it during one of her fits, the mother caught her, and they fought, which is how she ended up with the scratches that were used as evidence against Terry. She then manipulated her emotionally and psychologically vulnerable mother to take the fall, or even believe that it was Terry that did it. Tonina's story isn't consistent. Her sisters don't believe that she wasn't involved. Tonina never referred to DeAngelo with his name. She distanced herself from it. She has a gigantic victim complex and keeps making herself the victim of it rather than her nephew or her sister who just lost her son. She keeps talking about how it's affected her, rather than discussing anything about her sisters, or even her mother. She keeps painting her mother as suspicious, but not to the point where she'd seem like a bad daughter, because that would make her look like a bad person. When she's talking about the CPR during the second interview, she keeps talking about how she feels she could've saved him, which is a real thing, but this is not how guilt usually sounds like. She keeps talking about how everyone blames her. About how hard it is. The 911 call was so strange, she started up emotionless, and then became a hysteric, fake crying wreck. She deflects everything, avoids everything, and can't give clear or direct answers. Why would she have to insist that she's innocent and doesn't understand why people keep telling her that she's to blame for it, when the blame is already on her mother? She's overcompensating. Her nodding yes while trying to say no, then saying she doesn't sleepwalk even though she does, and it wasn't even answering the question. Fucking nothing lines up. The mother doesn't even remember. She just keeps repeating that she snapped, which is sounds more like she was told that rather than what really happened.
@Jkaye13
@Jkaye13 5 ай бұрын
Agree 💯❗️
@guliegirl
@guliegirl 5 ай бұрын
Agree. Seems Her mother was afraid of her and how unpredictable she is.
@mizpike1683
@mizpike1683 5 ай бұрын
Totally Agree!!
@StephJ.9120
@StephJ.9120 5 ай бұрын
💯💯💯💔
@Robert08010
@Robert08010 5 ай бұрын
I think they both have severe mental issues, but beyond that, I think the mother is afraid of Tonina and killed the little boy to prevent him from waking Tonina.
@user-ue4yb6gr8l
@user-ue4yb6gr8l 29 күн бұрын
id never leave my child with either of these people
@roberttulibacki9184
@roberttulibacki9184 2 күн бұрын
It takes a special kind of evil too not only kill a baby but too then pin the murder on your sick mother is next level evil.
@jadeivymonet
@jadeivymonet 5 ай бұрын
Tonina is literally the strangest person I've ever seen. Thank you for the amazing work you do because i couldn't even begin to decipher the weirdness of this entire family.
@emo_penguin420
@emo_penguin420 5 ай бұрын
I literally just said out loud how Tonina is totally bizarre right before I read your comment, lol
@HeatherHenton
@HeatherHenton 5 ай бұрын
Amen.
@williamglaser6577
@williamglaser6577 5 ай бұрын
They are both WHACKO !
@Bettinasisrg
@Bettinasisrg 5 ай бұрын
Right!!?! It's like she is a child? Like the 911 operator asks how old she is!!??
@kaycep6819
@kaycep6819 5 ай бұрын
She’s so self focused and bizarre! I came here for comments
@jayintuitive7717
@jayintuitive7717 4 ай бұрын
The way Tonina continuously switches topics during the interrogation is INSANE.
@JessBlake2
@JessBlake2 4 ай бұрын
@jayintuitve7717, gee, you mean a person who likely has schizophrenia sounds insane? What a surprise.
@carch7243
@carch7243 4 ай бұрын
@@JessBlake2 It doesn't need to be schizophrenia, racing thoughts is a symptom common in several mental disorders. Your brain is moving so fast that by the time something gets out of your mouth, you are on to another topic. I don't know who or if both were guilty, but this girl definitely needed some help.
@keriissovery9566
@keriissovery9566 4 ай бұрын
I find it odd that the detective allowed her to do that.
@TurnToPageX
@TurnToPageX 4 ай бұрын
@@JessBlake2Why do you think she’s schizophrenic? Nothing here implied that, her medication isn’t for schizophrenia. Unless you have some information we don’t…
@zairaboschman937
@zairaboschman937 4 ай бұрын
​@@TurnToPageX Her medication could potentially be for schizophrenia (50.33) and she claimed to have a psychotic break (1.29.25) and having had hallucinations (1.20.50). She also has signs of delusions (grandiose to be specific) and seems to have attention problems. So it is a possibility
@blitzkrieg2142k
@blitzkrieg2142k 27 күн бұрын
This is so frustrating to watch based on all the clue the aunt gave that it was not a accident. Then to have the balls to say oh i dont know why my sister dosent want me at his funeral.
@NichtNought
@NichtNought 29 күн бұрын
At 1:29:00 the report says Tonina was just cleared from a psych hospital, but that she sleepwalks and stabs people in her sleep. It's why she refused to do a polygraph, because "she wass a killer in her sleep." I definitely think she had more to do with this than she wants the courts and the court of public opinion to believe.
@Allegra11
@Allegra11 5 ай бұрын
It seems to me Tonina is mentally unstable and got fed up with her nephews taking away the attention she demanded from her mother. I think she killed her nephew and her mother covered for her.
@hollib3900
@hollib3900 5 ай бұрын
I’m in complete agreement with this.
@lawdfattiousgaming9148
@lawdfattiousgaming9148 5 ай бұрын
Same I agree as well
@kaycep6819
@kaycep6819 5 ай бұрын
I think this is a definite possibility! I don’t think she attempted cpr either
@jeaniewhipkey1734
@jeaniewhipkey1734 5 ай бұрын
I agree!!
@monroeglam
@monroeglam 5 ай бұрын
I think that too. The mom took the fault and is seems she's completely protecting Tonina.
@PicesChic
@PicesChic 5 ай бұрын
I definitely believe Tonina got away with murder and her mom took the fall for her. I think her moms anxiety over the years was due to her worry about Tonina being mentally unstable. Not to mention the stress of living with a violent person cycling on and off their meds. She still referred to Tonina as her little one at 25 years old and felt she needed to be looked out after. She expressed concern about work being too hard for Tonina and also concern with what Tonina had turned her room into. She knew she was mentally unwell but not to this extent most likely. I think her vague statement of “I just snapped” was the best she could come up with to cover for her daughter. The bruises on her were probably inflicted by Tonina . Also, this was some of the worst detective work I’ve ever seen. They really dropped the ball with this one but not sure they cared enough to get it right.
@kayrutledge1970
@kayrutledge1970 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Just like that song sounds like some satanic sacrifice, she could have been living that out. Her narcissism displayed through this video is sickening. Super model that everyone was jealous of? She did get away with murder and left her mother take the fall. There’s a special place in hell for demons like her.
@LEDINBOROUGH
@LEDINBOROUGH 5 ай бұрын
I picked up on the fact she stated when she woke up she was wearing different clothes. Was this because she changed her wet clothes after drowning him? She's definitely mentally ill. I thought she was guilty from the second she opened her mouth. One strange cookie! Her mom was protecting her. She'll be in the news again. I pray for her children.
@christinan1624
@christinan1624 5 ай бұрын
This is so spot on
@toniam.2080
@toniam.2080 5 ай бұрын
Tonina! Not Tonia!
@wishmartinez4022
@wishmartinez4022 5 ай бұрын
​@@toniam.2080Spelling doesn't matter. This Chick murdered her Nephew and let her mom take the fall. Disgusting excuse of a daughter.
@shellydasnail
@shellydasnail Ай бұрын
Tonina and her Mom are wacka-doodles. The way they talk, act and this story are cray cray. Such a tragedy.
@cindyjensen3037
@cindyjensen3037 Ай бұрын
It sounds like her daughters are gaslighting her, the grandmother.
@NotLonesoul
@NotLonesoul 2 ай бұрын
I cannot wrap my head around how all the professionals interviewing Tonina got pretty solid statements from her and evidence of her changing her story and avoiding questions yet, she walks free to this day. I have seen so many people in Tonina's position who have got some sort of sentencing. This is outrageous.
@loulouvanzeeland8353
@loulouvanzeeland8353 Ай бұрын
100% agree. Doesnt make any sense. Im so angry with this right now, it's not right
@mikelsidler5821
@mikelsidler5821 Ай бұрын
I bet its got something to do with the fact that she is a woman. Otherwise, I cant see any possibility of them letting her go free when she changed her story so many times and keeps lying about everything.
@SimplyCheryl
@SimplyCheryl Ай бұрын
Yep
@SimplyCheryl
@SimplyCheryl Ай бұрын
Even her sister, the boy’s mom, didn’t want her involved in the funeral. Red flag 🚩
@richardfinlayson1524
@richardfinlayson1524 Ай бұрын
She's clearly bipolar, I think she is just like that, she is very similar to someone I know who is also bipolar, I don't think she is deliberately changing her story, she is confusing herself and exhibiting a lot of symptoms also the mum has clear mental health issues as well
@GG-uw8vb
@GG-uw8vb 5 ай бұрын
I read in a separate article that during a jail visitation with DeAngelo's parents, Terry mouthed the words "Tonina did it", but she wouldn't say it out loud to them. I think the little boy woke up early that morning and was playing loudly, Tonina snapped, beat the hell out of him, and the grandmother tried to intervene and was attacked as well. Which is why she had scratches on arms, from Tonina, not DeAngelo. I think Tonina put him in the tub to drown at least an hour before she actually called the police, and cut up his shirt and a piece of shower curtain to try and come up with a story about someone else in the home. That is why Terry refused to help with CPR, she knew he was dead already. Also, the paramedics noted that both adults had dry clothes on. Leading me to believe they took him out the tub and changed clothes, and were probably standing there trying to come up with a plan before calling 911. Tonina's paranoia throughout the whole ordeal is her guilt clearly erupting from her conscience.
@seymorebutz297
@seymorebutz297 5 ай бұрын
I agree and the mother is so mentally messed up that toninia brain washed her into thinking she did it
@Janinemichelle389
@Janinemichelle389 5 ай бұрын
💯
@Janinemichelle389
@Janinemichelle389 5 ай бұрын
@@seymorebutz297💯
@christinakennedy7809
@christinakennedy7809 5 ай бұрын
You're hired
@bfamily6209
@bfamily6209 5 ай бұрын
💯
@courtneyangove6668
@courtneyangove6668 15 күн бұрын
I can't imagine how Amelia his mom is doing. Losing her child, mom in prison for allegedly being the reason for his death and your sister not being able to say what happened or changes what happened and in the interview was worried about herself? I hope Amelia is okay
@lennyfeen91
@lennyfeen91 19 күн бұрын
What I'm also shocked at is the fact the boys mother would trust her sister and mother to babysit in the first place, they are CLEARLY not trustworthy and I've known them for just over an hour
@spook5223
@spook5223 3 күн бұрын
considering the mother and toninas financial difficulties (mothers financial worries and how toninas sister said she was gonna get food stamps), i doubt her sister had the finances to hire a babysitter and it was easier to have her family watch DeAngelo. it’s very sad :(
@johnbdeal324
@johnbdeal324 4 ай бұрын
This woman suffers from such a level of narcissism that it is actually startling. She turned every aspect of this tragedy back to how it affected her. Wow.
@l-b284
@l-b284 3 ай бұрын
it's so hard to follow this, too, because the timeline and details keep changing in her rants
@Ms_Ink
@Ms_Ink 3 ай бұрын
Oh! I completely agree!! She is still incredibly narcissistic!!
@lotharschramm5000
@lotharschramm5000 3 ай бұрын
Can you armchair psychologists stop calling everyone and their mother a "narcissist" already?
@boopboopboop459
@boopboopboop459 3 ай бұрын
@@lotharschramm5000 this is a case of narcissism. just because you cant see that doesnt mean everyones an armchair psychologist lol
@marz_mitzi
@marz_mitzi 3 ай бұрын
says you, keep being delusional and defending abusers & murderers @@lotharschramm5000
@madelinegombos2558
@madelinegombos2558 5 ай бұрын
Tonina is so manipulative and narcissistic and literally only cares about herself and what she’s going through. I believe she did it and that poor mother is protecting her.
@mslovelyshot
@mslovelyshot 5 ай бұрын
I do too. Like her mother may have placed the child in there with her mental health fog and Tonina seen and opportunity to m*rder the child and her mother take the blame. Because her mother placed the child and possibly walked away her mother could even believe herself that she did it herself and explaining her "not knowing".I believe Tonina did it and was able to blame her mom and even get her mom to believe herself that she did it.
@GraveYardShif7
@GraveYardShif7 5 ай бұрын
I'm no psychologist. But She's definitly an accomplice to murder. Most who are involve in murders act like her in interrogations. She constantly goes back and forth from victimizing herself, to talking about herself how she's a good person, making it all about her while never mentioning once about what the child went through. She veiws the child like an object rather then a human being. This is classic signs of guilt, but police can't do anything unless their is evidence.
@bhumikjoshi4573
@bhumikjoshi4573 5 ай бұрын
What about marks on her mother?
@astrialindah2773
@astrialindah2773 5 ай бұрын
​@@mslovelyshotyes that is exactly what I just commented as well.....😮
@paigeherrin29
@paigeherrin29 5 ай бұрын
she fights with her daughter. Tonina hurt her mother. The marks are from Tonina. She's on anti-psychotics normally given to people with violent mental health issues. @@bhumikjoshi4573
@pure_divine3169
@pure_divine3169 25 күн бұрын
I definitely feel Tonina took DeAngelo’s life and Terry took the blame. This is the most bizarre case I have ever heard. Tonina now has children and they will one day see all this. I truly hope they are safe.
@dianenaddaff9879
@dianenaddaff9879 Ай бұрын
Shes sounding more and more guilty as this goes on.
@dianenaddaff9879
@dianenaddaff9879 Ай бұрын
She's
@Mike-pb6lw
@Mike-pb6lw 5 ай бұрын
Listen to Tonina talk has been one of the most infuriating things I can remember. Aside from the fact she may have gotten away with murder it’s clear that she didn’t care about that poor boy one bit. It seems like nobody in that family did
@stanislavglut782
@stanislavglut782 5 ай бұрын
Exactly ,was really hard to listen even to rythm of her speech ,,distu.rbingly narc.istic mon.ster 😭😭it Feels like She somehow made her mum to do that
@johnjr7070
@johnjr7070 5 ай бұрын
How many times can a person with higher education say "like" in a 5min span, I don't envy the interrogater, horrible woman.
@veronicafior2714
@veronicafior2714 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think someone has frustrated me this much like this Tonina bi$&h
@user-mz6sh4uo7u
@user-mz6sh4uo7u 5 ай бұрын
fax yo, she essentially lied to the cops during this investigation by saying she woke up and found the boy around 7am when in reality like her updated 2023 story, she and possibly everyone else was awake at around 3am
@Marie-cr7oe
@Marie-cr7oe 5 ай бұрын
The level of delusional confidence she had too, claiming she was a "supermodel, everyone was so jealous, everyone's out to hurt them" it's like no wonder a woman of that mindset would get arrested for indecent exposure to the cops. Girl thought she was the shit. It took a lot of patience to get through this video, hearing her voice and mannerism was like claws on a chalk board
@wolf.eye._-
@wolf.eye._- 4 ай бұрын
I can't believe this little boy was left in those two people's care. Both of them are insane.
@stevieleone7209
@stevieleone7209 4 ай бұрын
💯!
@hruthgardahne822
@hruthgardahne822 3 ай бұрын
her parents probably wanted some time to recharge their batteries OR to party ...never trust other people to look for your childs, only if its absolutely necessary
@VioletJoy
@VioletJoy 3 ай бұрын
​@@hruthgardahne822Aunts and grandparents are generally extremely trustworthy. This is a very unusual situation. I think it might be better advice to suggest avoiding having your mentally ill, narcissistic relatives watch your child alone.
@piumirajapaksha7620
@piumirajapaksha7620 Ай бұрын
Yep, and after they both had stints in the psychiatric hospital.
@noReturnsAccepted
@noReturnsAccepted 3 күн бұрын
As she was leaving, she actually expressed some kind of emotional response but IMMEDIATELY snapped back to directing attention to herself by asking about the scheme of her room. This broad is nuts. This is a true example of narcissism in my opinion.
@mandimartin5521
@mandimartin5521 Ай бұрын
The way this woman says "peet zaaaaah" makes me want to scream
@boots4000
@boots4000 Ай бұрын
literally. i don’t know what accent this is but it’s so obnoxious.
@darktower0603
@darktower0603 29 күн бұрын
Was looking for this comment lol. PeetZAH
@emilyvolinski8176
@emilyvolinski8176 3 ай бұрын
The fact that she is now saying 3am she woke up to find him is all the proof we need.. they called at 7am. She let him float there for 4 hours.
@aymoooneo
@aymoooneo 2 ай бұрын
I hope she sees these comments saying we all know Tonina is guilty 😂
@LexyThomas134
@LexyThomas134 2 ай бұрын
​@@aymoooneoNo, she's loving it if anything. She's getting attention
@ralsharp6013
@ralsharp6013 2 ай бұрын
I think the mother got up that morning and found him already in the bath.. She sounded beside herself, not knowing what to do! That mother couldn't explain what happened because tornado Tonina did it😢😢
@MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWWWMMMWMWMWMMWM
@MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWWWMMMWMWMWMMWM 2 ай бұрын
@@ralsharp6013 It would be super easy to identify if a body had been in water for hours. A firefighter / paramedic or emt would easily be able to see it. Also the way Rigor mortis works it would be especially obvious if the boy was dead for 4 hours. It certainly happened around the time they called 911.
@madsdee7803
@madsdee7803 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if she killed her own father too so she could have control of her mother and their finances. She reminds me of my Aunty who was pushing my head under water in a bathtub when my mother caught her. A bitter young woman (like my Aunty) jealous of a child for getting attention and having money spent on them. She clearly hated him since she couldn't even cry and she didn't even try CPR since she was dry and she was fake blowing as you can hear on the recording.
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