Fan Zhendong vs Wang Chuqin | MT-SF | Chinese Super League 2024

[@DanielKhoa]

The recent drama really take a toll on Fan performance. Please comeback my glorious king

[@michaelshaw7652]

Three service errors and numerous service return errors, very rare for a player of his caliber.

[@725ii]

The glazing is crazy

[@systemdown4027]

why not give credit to Wang instead of bringing up some drama?

[@ThePhilosophicalRacket]

you can see the diffrence in service game probably 90% of WCQ serves are hidden in comparison FZD serves are clean

[@user-yg31415]

you cannot see what his opponents see.

[@Dandamagee]

FZD doesn’t need to cheat on serve

[@Iman-iman-iman]

yes

[@PhuongNguyenThi-ud5xw]

Fzd also hide the ball. Haha. Win is win. Dont try to bring someone down because of yours.

[@starking1187]

@@ThePhilosophicalRacket By this logic, there's no possible way for WCQ to lose one single match no matter who he is facing since he has that big of an advantage using "illegal services". But we've seen even in this very league alone, Fan Zhengdong already defeated Wang Chuqin in stage 1. When that happened, people has been trashing WCQ saying that illegal serves can't bring him the win. So why now when Fan lost, the " Illegal service" becomes an issue huh? Stop being delulu and use "illegal service" to justify every lost of Fan Zhengdong.

[@shenzhenpingpong]

Simply incredible performance! If Wang Chuqin wants to be regarded as the best player in the world, not just world rank #1, he has to address the Fan Zhendong problem. His performance here goes a long way towards that. Awesome!

[@TableTennisMedia]

Fan Zhendong still #1 in the World. Olympic gold outweighs everything in 2024 👍

[@Артем-о7ж7к]

Уже нет заметно

[@awwitsHurts]

so many good players in the world dude. Use logic, if billions of players play table tennis, surely there are few that can beat FZD in olympics, or have a lucky game to defeat him However they are not recognized or will be put in spotlight because specific players attract more audience.

[@JoeMassoud]

Who needs wtt anymore when you have this?

[@Independent_Man3]

THIS only happens once a year

[@JoeMassoud]

@ why? isn’t this a normal csl matchup?

[@mmmkmkmkmable]

@@JoeMassoud CSL is one tournament

[@JoeMassoud]

@ Oh I thought it was a full season league. Very misleading name lol. Thanks for that!

[@楠-u4z]

​@@JoeMassoudYears ago before wtt existence, China super league lasted a month each year. But Liu GuoLiang wanted to make more money via wtt tournaments, thus he as the ctta chairman ordered to compress China super league to one week.

[@jksoufnlkjsn]

The CTTA released the official annoucement 3 hours before this match, Liu Guolaing's interview aired 1 hour before the match, the whole Chinese national team was doing the dirty on Fan Zhendong, definitely mental abuse, poor Fan Zhendong, did not have enough energy to deal with WCQ's illegal serves

[@ZhangJikeTT9]

Fan Zhendong is down by his morale, it was very normal him to lose 😢

[@caiyinliang3916]

你壞腦!

[@hcx19]

Morale

[@caiyinliang3916]

you are the band guy.

[@PhuongNguyenThi-ud5xw]

Poor wcq, when he loses people say Fzd is number 1 he can't overcome but when wcq wins they say he served illegally or for other reasons they can't recognize his talent.

[@starking1187]

@@PhuongNguyenThi-ud5xw Fandom problem. Why is there a need to purposely prove who to "real" world no.1 is? Player with high rankings is the player who is able to perform phenomenally under the laid out system and criteria. And Wang Chuqin has achieved that fairly. Yes Wang Chuqin is not better than Fan Zhendong both in terms of head to head and career results. Everyone knows that but that doesn't make Wang Chuqin a fake. It's a well known fact that Fan Zhendong is superior to Wang Chuqin in every way. Already a grand slam while Wang Chuqin doesn't have any of the three titles yet to become a grand slam. So I don't get why there's a need to feel insecure about Wang Chuqin's presence up to the point where he is harshly criticized for every single lost.

[@ruiwang780]

Because they are illegal

[@СараЖумакулова-д6п]

@@starking1187 only got into tennis after the Olympics, and immediately noticed how everyone underestimates any victory of Chuqin. Despite the fact that he is a good guy, he never says anything bad about anyone, he is mostly quiet and in his thoughts. Even at the Olympics, he did not blame the broken racket, but blamed his own shortcoming and praised the high game of his opponent. So what if there is no World Cup championship and the like, he will still have time to win them, God willing)) At first glance he seems cold and arrogant, but watching his interviews and various videos I noticed how kind and sensitive he actually is.

[@windps1410]

Many of Wang's servings appear to be illegal shorter than 6 inches away from his hand.

[@SK-ok8xb]

Haha thought peeps were blowing it out of proportion but nope, it's 100% this. Literally just wobbles like 5cm above his hand or something, so he could therefore give it a manual good spin etc.

[@SK-ok8xb]

Not that it impacted FZD losing tho, lad was just out of form.

[@DQ2121]

His serve is illegal in multiple ways

[@СараЖумакулова-д6п]

What kind of underestimation of victory is this? Chuqin won, he is the champion. I felt really offended for him, he is a great and talented player.

[@LIUXIAO-m5h]

Congratulations to Wang Chuqing on the well-deserved victory! You played exceptionally well and showed great skill and determination throughout the match. Wishing you even greater success in the future!

[@geraldcarino5009]

Pretty exceptional in service hidding as well.

[@edwingao6307]

I’m just mad that people are going crazy over illegal serves. First off, the camera is not a pov of the opposing player, so what you see is not what the player sees. The rule says the ball can’t be hidden from the player, not the camera. Second, if there was illegal serves wouldn’t some of the players mention that? If the players who apparently don’t use illegal serves(fzd according to you guys) are okay with the serves, then why shouldn’t we be ok?

[@fardudezilla]

All of wcq serves are illegal

[@aalokatmaa1606]

No no, it’s super illegal😂😂😂🙈🙈🙈

[@zihanwu1290]

he hit the ball inside the table,. It is hard to judge whether it is long serve or short serve. He hide the ball using his head and another hand so that it is hard to judge how much spin the ball has.

[@aalokatmaa1606]

@ I don’t think you/we can say if he hide the ball based on our visual-angle. This depends on the opponent’s visual-angle of his opponent. This is why, I usually don’t judge this types of situations.

[@supplycm6892]

nice illegal serves WCQ

[@r1jsheth]

FZD made 3 service faults

[@ruoyenyu7825]

It is really funny to see that fan’s fans always think they are more professional than the referee.like how do you know wang’s serve is illegal by watching a video 😂there is no sportman spirit and respect in this sport anymore .what a shame

[@starking1187]

Bruh which fanbase is worst?? People keep saying its WCQ but I don't see the FZD fanbase being any better. When FZD wins over anybody they'll go haywire, saying he's the absolute best and all other player's ranking are fake and meaningless. But when he loses all sorts of excuses comes out, harrassed by fans morale drop due to WTT, illegal serves like what the hell?? When Fan loses he's form is bad but when others lose they're trash?? Quit the double standards. If FZD can lose because of a 'bad day' then please do not go around bashing others for losing. Fan is human and so is every other players.

[@TianguangWANG-yg6vi]

The Chinese Internet has exploded in recent days. Some fans are trying to vent their emotions by attacking everyone.

[@Independent_Man3]

Sad world. Sad times.

[@HanhLe-gu7pz]

Good job!

[@urmama834]

This is another one between the two??

[@TT11TV]

@urmama834 Yes, this match was played yesterday, December 31st.

[@khalilsk485]

👍🏓 TABLE TENNIS 🏓👌

[@Mikey_edits5]

Legend's 🔥

[@jksoufnlkjsn]

the CTTA is shameless, force the best table tennis talent to retire at such a young age

[@sefoish]

Try beating fan when he’s in form

[@napapachpimdee6415]

Congratulations to Wang Choqin, you are the best right now.

[@yueh-chenlee2646]

WCQ 0% wins on service, 100% wins on hiding the serve

[@StuffLeaver]

假拋 遮擋

[@VahlenkoYuriy]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Tren_Gemi_Kanat...]

6:50 Rakete değil, hakeme bak Fan.

[@JoseVicente-w4y]

🦁🦁

[@hs2336]

Chuqin Wang won this game because Zhendong Fan didn't plan to win. I hope Chuqin can realize this and train hard to make himself better in the future. After all, Zhendong Fan has handed over the baton to Chuqin Wang, Gaoyuan Lin, Shidong Lin and others. They are the only hope for raising the national flag at the Olympic Stadium now‼️ Keep up the good work, Team China! You’re the best of the best‼️

[@PhuongNguyenThi-ud5xw]

Win is win, there's no such thing as not wanting to win. you are ridiculous 😂😂😂

[@hs2336]

@Phuong Nguyen Thi, Thanks for your reply. I wish the world is as simple as you😉

[@robin0910]

Not wanting to win? This is a team event, he has to perform at max for his team. Other than that, he’s still gonna participate in the national games next year so Fan is far from being retired completely.

[@hs2336]

@Robin L Thanks for your reply. Em, I think you might have misunderstood me because I had mentioned nothing about "retirement"🤣 but "...at the Olympic Stadium," right😉 As matter of fact, I look forward to watching more games from Zhendong Fan!! e.g., 1) 34th ITTF-ATTU Asian Cup 2025 in Feb. 2) 2025 National Games in Nov. 3) Next CTTSL (China Table Tennis Super League) Game. etc. As for your commenting of "This is a team event, ..." I agree with you! This match of Zhengdong Fan was certainly part of the team work, which also made me appreciate his team even more, because I could see his team's strategic efforts and support for this match, and all because Zhendong Fan is totally worth it❤

[@robin0910]

@@hs2336 yeah cause “handing over the baton” doesn’t imply anything about retirement, huh. Also, you really think CTTA will let Fan Zhendong participate in the Asian Cup after this? You’re delusional

[@r.boubaya532]

People will never forget Olympics. Who cares about Chinese championship? Tchole tcholee....you should have behaved like that against Truls 😂...Fan Zan Dong deserves to win. He couldn't even read the opponent serve. At this level, the serve is necessarily hiden...

[@haquangluat5662]

Fan give up.