Fantastic Dental Loupes: LumaDent ERGOPRISM Update and Learning Curve

[@DavetheMuzicMan]

Hey man love your videos! I'm a hygienist practicing in FL and have been using the ErgoPrism Loupes 3.3x mag with the AirLux wireless light since December 2020 and have found them to be the best purchase I've ever made. Your positive points are spot on and I do my best to promote these as it's probably the best way to avoid musculoskeletal disorders of the head/neck/shoulders/spine as a dental provider. I have not had any issues with hygiene procedures like perio charting and I it may be because I have a lower magnification and therefore a wider field of view. I'd always assumed that dentists would need higher magnification as you tend to work in more focused areas during treatment so you're probably going to be well off with your 5x mags once you graduate. I have the wireless light and have never had any electrical so that may be a long term fix for what you mentioned in the video. The AirLux light does not add too much weight on your face even after extended periods. I've had plenty of days in which I worked pretty much non-stop for 9+ hours (assisted hygiene with a short staff) with few breaks and barely had any fatigue/eye strain that you would expect after seeing patients all day. Glad to see more providers using/promoting these, good luck in your studies Doc! David B, CRDH

[@stephenraydentist]

David thanks so much for the comment! It is awesome to hear how much you've enjoyed your Ergoprism loupes! It is also awesome to hear how well the AirLux system has treated you. Makes me want to get into one of those lights myself! Best of luck with work and if you are ever in Tennessee, come visit my office (2024 and forward 😉)

[@anshkalavadia]

dude your editing is awesome like how do you get time to give us such a high quality videos

[@stephenraydentist]

My friend!! Thank you for this comment! I definitely pay attention to the details when I edit and I hope to continue to improve! If I had more free time, I could really explore the video creation process. For now, I do my best with the time I have. I just want to be present and consistent for my viewers like you!

[@vicentehenriquezsdh765]

Love your review! Very honest and straight to the point. I'm a junior DHS. And I just purchased Design for Vision. So this is definitely good feedback to know. Next week, I'll be speaking to a Lumadent Rep. So we'll see if I'll switch up. Best, Vicente

[@alfredstrandman]

Love your videos Stephen! I just got accepted into the dental programme at Karolinska Institutet. Five years of intense studies coming up and I’m so excited!

[@stephenraydentist]

Alfred!! Congratulations my friend!! That is so exciting and I couldn't be more proud of you! Thanks for watching and supporting and I hope you have continued success moving forward!

[@dawsonwalker5520]

Stephen could you make a video on tips to improve your dexterity and how to improve your hand piece skills?

[@stephenraydentist]

I certainly can! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@onemissiondmd]

My guy! Thanks for this video! I actually just ordered a Pair of ergo loupes from admetec, would love to see how they compare.

[@stephenraydentist]

My brother!! I have heard about Admetec but have never tried them! I have enjoyed the Ergoprisms though. I always recommend that to people looking for an ergonomic loupe. Hope D4 is going well my man!

[@onemissiondmd]

@@stephenraydentist it's going well man! Super cool doing great cases! We gotta link up again soon bro

[@stephenraydentist]

@@onemissiondmd We certainly do! We need an update! Looking forward to hearing about where you end up after graduation!

[@AM.000]

@@onemissiondmd how are the Admetec ergo loupes going? Curious about which magnification you went with and if you are happy with them. Thanks!

[@cotealvarado]

@@AM.000 hey! I got the Admetec Ergo Loupes 3.0x about 4 months ago. They are great, the learning curve was pretty fast for me and their wireless light is incredible. I had never used loupes before and for what I do (Ortho) I can say I prefer not using magnification, but had to adapt for the ergonomics, my neck was hurting. So now I use them for everything except bonding lingual retainers, I find I need to over extend my neck to directly see the inferior incisors.

[@ethanmcallister4861]

Hey man, I just subscribed to your channel. I recently started considering becoming a dentist, and your channel has been such a great resource!

[@stephenraydentist]

Thank you so much for the comment and support, Ethan! I'm truly so happy to know that my channel has been helpful! That is really all I want out of it! Best of luck with your journey, my friend!

[@Sitiaisyah-zl5ik]

Hi Stephen, goodluck in your clinical years and i just have few questions that i'm curious about. 1) i just wondering do you feel some kind of eye strain or headache after using your loupe for long hours since your view is magnified with the loupe and your eye may take time to adjust to the normal magnification after not using the loupe? 2) Does this loupe is lightweight ? 3) What do you do to overcome the worry of something might get into your eye since there is some space between the loupe and your eyes?

[@stephenraydentist]

Thanks so much for the questions!! I will answer these in my next Ergoprism update video which will be soon!!

[@asoaso9933]

I use Z shield additional to protect from underneath. But still many equipment hanging: light, Loupe, and z shield if you need to put them aside during treatment is time consuming in the middle of a procedures and a busy schedule.

[@stephenraydentist]

A face shield is definitely an option! I don't prefer to wear one because of how bulky they are, and I'm actively working toward a solution to this issue.

[@jazminramos278]

Great video, thanks for the update!

[@stephenraydentist]

Thank you so much, Jazmine! I appreciate the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@colejesperson8431]

Sadly my classmates and I have had such bad experiences with lumadent. I love the idea of the product, but the majority of us have had to send ours back as our orders were wrong or the fitting wasn’t correct. This has been dragging it out for months! I hope they can improve their customer support and accuracy of order fulfillments!

[@drjoelsanchez]

any update on that topic? planning on getting mine this year

[@colejesperson8431]

@@drjoelsanchez after a long time I got them back and they still are not 100%. Deciding on where to go from here

[@peternguyen1911]

@@colejesperson8431 even if you don't stick with Lumadent, I strongly recommend sticking with ergonomic loupes in general. I love my Q Optics one, I would say try to crash a general dentist convention near you with vendors and try them out

[@asoaso9933]

They are horrible

[@stevenlopez1717]

Just bought a pair at the Midwinter meeting - ErgoPrism TTL 4.5x with the ProLUX headlight. You didn't mention the variable working distance - from what I understand my loupes will come fit the an adjustable lens, allowing me to focus at multiple working lengths.

[@stephenraydentist]

This is very true! Working length has never been an issue for me so since they’re already properly set at my working length, I never mess with that variable feature. It does exist and work however and it’s really a good one to have!

[@I_understand]

Hey just a quick question, im a second year dental student. We have the option to go with ergo loupes or the orascoptic loupes that I would probably get in the same configuration that you have. Would you suggest I start off with the orascoptic and get the ergo loupes later on, after I finish dental school? Great video btw!

[@traywaters1575]

Such a great video!

[@TS.007]

Hi, I couldn’t find your updated review on your Lumadent loupe. If anyone has seen his updated review, could you please share the link?

[@lucasdavis5694]

Great video! Incoming 1st year--were you required to first get non-ergo loupes? If it's allowed, would you recommend starting out with a set of ergo loupes as a first year?

[@stephenraydentist]

At my school, we were only able to pick from the Options Orascoptic had at the time and none of them were Ergo loupes. Now Orascoptic offers an Ergo loupe setup that our D1s can pick if they'd like. Other schools do it differently and give their D1s multiple companies to choose their loupes from. It just depends on where you go and how they do it. I would definitely recommend Ergo loupes from Day 1. Start early with them. Maybe someday, you'll want a pair of high mag regular loupes for certain applications but your daily driver can absolutely be a pair of Ergos!

[@Ktv.24]

Hi! Are you using your orascoptics for oral surgery? And then your ergoprisms for restorative procedures and fixed prosth/endo?

[@vladborisov2374]

Hello, I use oroscoptic XV1 and Dragonfly, so I am unaware if this could help you put or not. The reason why is because those units don't have a battery pack and the wiring is internal. I have adjusted the handles to hang around my neck instead of the string supporting my loupes. Just an evaluation, while your sitting and talking to camera, I see that while they are hanging there is some strain that the cable is going through which may be the problem of it getting louse. Please let me know if it helps Vlad, EFDA, CDA, RDA

[@AZLV09]

What frames are these?

[@TheXCobra11]

Very helpful video thanks for that man :) I have the ergo Loupes from Admatec 4.0x and i'am thinking of buying the prolux headlight. How do i get the discount for students?

[@stephenraydentist]

Thanks for the question! Lumadent.com will have all your answers! You can check out the "student exclusives" page which pops up on the home landing page. You could also find the AirLux product on the website and there should be an option within that page to indicate that you are a student.

[@ayomideafolabi9666]

Hi Stephen, Thanks for this video, great insights. Wanted to ask about the lumadent prolux headlight. The 40 hr battery life, is that on the lowest intensity? Do you know what the battery life is like on the highest intensity? Cheers

[@stephenraydentist]

thanks for the question!! that 40 hours is almost certainly at the lowest setting. I have never actually tested the battery life but I would imagine it is at around 24 hours of use at the highest setting. Certainly enough to get you through a lot of dentistry!

[@ayomideafolabi9666]

@@stephenraydentist Thanks Stephen. I'm starting D1 in Australia next year, your vids have been awesome. Keep flying 🙏

[@qssibrad]

Do you get a choice in the loupes you get? Or do they come in your dental kit from the school?

[@adsha1t6dafhasd]

hey nice review video! do you think your Ergo prism 5.0x is significantly more magnified than your orascoptic 3.5x? I only ask because i'm hearing that since your head is more tilted up for Ergo loupe, 5.0x in ergo is more like 4.0x for traditional loupe.

[@77fr4nkie77]

I have Zeiss eye mag pro 4x and the same magnification was something between 5-6x so i took 7,5x

[@70bluesville]

What power are the loupes? I need 10+ power of magnification.

[@julievu1012]

For the lumadent drawbacks, can you use a clear faceshield over the loupes?

[@stephenraydentist]

Thanks for the question! I could but I dont prefer to wear a faceshield for obvious reasons. They tend to be bulky and are just an extra layer to account for. I do have a great faceshield that I wear for Perio procedures, however, and I really like that one. But this is a good point!

[@marnkalman]

I’m Marna I’m disabled I’m always nervous about going to the dentist can you please help me with my fears I have been going to the dentist but it’s difficult for me to deal with

[@stephenraydentist]

Thanks for the comment, Marna!! I completely understand why you feel this way! I promise you, however, that dental treatments tend to be very routine for the practitioner, and they will help you greatly! Start by working with a dentist that makes you feel comfortable. If you meet them and they do not seem to make an effort to comfort and care for you, consider seeing a different dentist. Another thing you can do is politely ask for nitrous oxide. Nitrous makes you feel very relaxed. I have had nitrous multiple times in school, and it makes a dental procedure that may seem scary turn into a pleasant experience. Make sure you explain to your dentist that you are nervous and also explain why. Did you have a bad experience with the dentist? Are you nervous because of the way the instruments look? Are you nervous because you think something will go wrong? These are the questions you need to ask yourself and explain to the dentist. If they're any good, they'll care for you properly! If all else fails, come see me in Ashland City, TN in 2024!

[@MrGW2fanboy]

Do they plan to do higher than 5x mag? Because you already lose some mag from the working distance so 5x ends up being more like 4.2x so it would be nice to get a 5.8x or higher version.

[@ncramz1662]

They offer a 6x now

[@asoaso9933]

Worst lens and materials " LUMADENT ERGOPRISM" , they fracture multiple times, and they ask money to repair it in spite of the mentioned lifetime warranty.

[@stephenraydentist]

I’m sorry you feel this way, but this could not be further from my experience. I’ve been using them for almost 2 years and have had exactly zero material issues/concerns. I would say these loupes are completely worth it.

[@breatownsend2186]

I’m unfortunately having the same issues. I absolutely love my loupes but this is the second issue I’ve had. So hard to pay that much money to ship them and go for weeks at a time without them and nothing to use in place.

[@stephenraydentist]

What issue specifically are you having?

[@breatownsend2186]

Lens have fractured, oculars came unglued somehow, and as of yesterday, I’m now seeing double due to something being off with one of the oculars.

[@Dr.Puntable]

Satefy issue is a very big concern. Big enough that I wouldn't consider this. Dental student? Fine. As a patient provider? No. Accidents happen. Your job is to minimize it so you're not exposed.

[@stephenraydentist]

Thanks for the comment! I'm working on a solution. We will see what I can come up with!

[@mirandaokubo8244]

Someone mentioned Z Shield. It's something I'm considering.

[@unknownt5391]

Use a shield, you’re fine. I am considering ergo loupes.