FANTASY RE-ARMED - the medieval LONGBOW: can you use a shield with it or as a melee weapon?

[@raicattivo]

The back scabbard the gift that keeps on giving

[@ouiVEVO]

I always refer to this whenever there's a nitpicker who says my character can't have a sword on their back when I play a tabletop RPG in a fantasy setting. And for that, thank you Shad.

[@drachonisarchen3118]

Need to just make one of those for myself already.

[@linzenzraiwn2354]

Oh my dear Lord you must have spoken of the sword rest known as ' tha shabarrrrrD ' as you please

[@Gwyll_Arboghast]

necessity is the mother of invention. lots of plausible things were never invented simply because there was no need.

[@SentientPalm]

@9600GTMAN well no because the need was money ? The need doesn't necessarily have to be for the end user or consumer if youre a business the more things you can sell the more successful doesn't matter what the product is as long as its profit. (Edit was a typo)

[@LadyDoomsinger]

Necessity might be the mother; but Convenience is the father. Lot's of inventions came to be, just to make life easier (The Printing Press for example).

[@Envy_May]

@@LadyDoomsinger Fun is like the sometimes present older sibling

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

I. Like. Big. Shields and I can not lie. You other Bothers-in-Arms can’t deny. When a knight walks in with an itty bitty waist and a kite shield in your face. You get Armed. . Shady Got Back. Lol, couldn’t resist when he said “I like big shields and I’m not gonna lie”

[@jamessberna1330]

Round shield. Instead of kite.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

@@jamessberna1330 yeah no, kite shields are better lol

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

@@jamessberna1330I did put is as a "Round Shield" first to go with the original lyrics, but a knight with an "itty bitty waist" would be wearing plate (or at least a Brigandine), so they wouldn't be using a round shield. So I went with Kite as its Shad's fave and even though heater shields were more popular by the time of plate, Kite Shields were still around.

[@miken5448]

omg, plz let us see shad make a video rapping this

[@MorgenPeschke]

Sir Mix-A-Lot: well, he's not wrong 🤷

[@Xentillus]

If an unstrung bow is like a stick, Shad has now confirmed that a bow is a sword-like weapon.

[@tristonhayman8031]

but it COULD be fire...

[@skidwarfarebo2171]

Wowza

[@dick_mor5780]

Anything is s sword if your drunk anuff

[@nb4032]

If there are any Fate fans here, you know what that means: sabers using bows-- just whacking people with bows

[@bigscribblegoggles]

And you can use an arrow as a spear

[@ZenithArt07]

Shad, your energy levels in this vid are 1000%! And it's great to see man! You seem lighter, brighter, stronger and all-round healthier. I'm glad some of the issues you've dealt with for so long are being overcome. You should be so proud.

[@justtime6736]

Yes it's nice to see! I'm a new Sub, very nice to be here when Shad's in tip top! Best of love, from 'Murica

[@austincummins7712]

I do not apologize for this, and I blame Shad for it.... "And when an Earl walks in with an itty-bitty mace and a round targe in your face You feel strong, want to hold it out front with your hand in that center boss stuffed! Gleam in the greaves he's wearing- I'm hooked and I can't stop staring Your majesty, I want to pledge fealty and bear your standard My squire tried to warn me, but that rotella you got makes (me win the tourney) All oak and steel skin, but you say you want a sword for two hands? Well, no need, you'll see.. 'Cause I ain't that average rouncey I've seen him joustin' To hell with yo lancin' Shield's thick, flat, Blockin' blows like a granite slab I'm tired of noble decrees Sayin' bucklers are the thing Take the average man-at-arms and ask him that He gotta pack that pavice..."

[@DH-xw6jp]

This is indescribable... We need it to be spread far and wide

[@BigGayIncorporated]

Okay this makes me want a whole ass medieval remix of that song lmao the term "Sir" in "Sir Mixalot" just got a whole new meaning

[@danthiel8623]

Hehe

[@rivencraft1734]

I await an actual recording of this masterpiece.

[@TheNapster153]

Dropping that mixtape hotter than Mount Doom like nobody’s buisness...

[@JumblyJumble]

This is clearly not factual. If you can't carry 37 long-swords and fire your bow, you need to increase your inventory management skill.

[@DrygdorDradgvork]

How does one "fire" their bow, as you say? Does one put it in a furnace or kiln or simply use it as kindling?

[@aquamarinerose5405]

I'd note that the instant he started talking about the longbow and the sword getting in the way I thought "What about Shad's Back Scabbard?" Granted that doesn't help the fact that you still need 2 hands to use the sword so you need to be able to put the bow away. Edit: Oh he actually said that later in the video

[@yaldabaoth2]

Put the swords in your quiver and use them as arrows.

[@bradeki2997]

Just get a bag of holding

[@JackofNothingess]

Shad will need a bigger Bag of Holding!

[@shadfacts6465]

Shad Fact: Shad regularly trains his biceps with hammer curls. His "hammers" just tend to weigh about 1 solar mass each.

[@alexandercross9081]

That sounds a little light, are you sure?

[@wannabeiroh4658]

Alexander Cross lmao

[@nathangamble125]

Shad fact: the Sagittarius A black hole at the centre of our galaxy is actually made from the congealed mass of "hammers" that Shad accidentally yote into space when he curled them too hard.

[@biblebot3947]

Nathan Gamble the black hole is Sagittarius A* Pronounced Sagittarius A star

[@jayoctopus8832]

Shad fact: Shad has lungs the size of dump trucks and therefore could spend up to a 8 months under water.

[@wolvez28]

The way his voice raised a little bit when he mentioned he had slimmed down a bit and it was "pretty cool" was super wholesome.

[@SatanIsTheLord]

His voice sounds like peeing horse.

[@Mike23443]

Ok, I hear you, putting a spear tip on a bow may mess with the weight distribution while shooting it, so it's a bad idea to do so... But why can't you just put two spear tips on both ends that weight the same?

[@alexanderflack566]

Adding weight to any part of a bow outside of the grip is a bad idea. Adding a large amount of weight to the tips is a REALLY BAD idea, in that it would reduce your arrow speed significantly. If you want to make a 100 pound bow hit like a 50 pound bow and be likely to break on you, that's how you do it. There's a reason that real life bows are as thin as possible for a given draw weight, and none have much more than a few grams or so of extra material past the string nocks. Basically, it's like an axe versus a sword. An axe is lighter overall, but because the weight is near the tip, it's slower. The limbs of a bow need to be as fast as possible, so you want to reduce weight overall without reducing draw weight or making it too fragile, and you especially want the tips to be as light as you can make them.

[@andrew-paulclements1502]

@@alexanderflack566 so what you are saying is, we should ad the spear tip to the grip and make it a punching weapon!

[@garethbaus5471]

The weights on the tips of the bow would greatly reduce the amount of acceleration the bow could impart on a projectile while increasing recoil greatly reducing how effective said bow is at shooting.

[@julzbehr6696]

Maybe you could have screw heads and screw on the spear tips

[@esawiik6646]

@@julzbehr6696 But if you had time to screw on spear tips, you would have time to get your sword. The only reason to fight with bow is a sudden melee situation.

[@Falcon532.]

I'm really happy I'm not the only one who tells my stuff to "stay" and if I don't it seems to always fall over

[@grayfox6930]

Same! XD

[@Platypi007]

Pretty sure this is perfectly normal behavior for adult humans.

[@H20No]

Don’t bows just fire tiny spears anyway?

[@haillobster7154]

Have mercy and spear my life !!

[@rollochairbreaker230]

New superhero: Green tiny spear.

[@MegaPokefan97]

Huntsman Sniper Taunt Kill

[@betheone4837]

@@MegaPokefan97 Stab, Stab Stab.

[@kkTeaz]

@@betheone4837 slash slash slash

[@austintheamerican3784]

When people say “they didn’t do it because they tried it and it didn’t work.” Consider that gunpowder is made from sulfur, Charchol and saltpeter three really common but also really random things that would only be mixed together if you where intentionally doing random sounding things Some ideas sound really dumb until they work

[@RequiemPoete]

Probably someone accidentally dropped x into y and saw the result do something neither should have done according to knowledge at the time, so they decided to mix random stuff together to see if it did anything.

[@mr.coffeeguy2853]

RequiemPoete Chinese man wanted to make an Elixir of Immortality, accidentally created a new form of death.

[@Lloyd_Montecillo]

@@mr.coffeeguy2853 It's quite poetic. "Many who sought a life greater than their own, found naught but death alone"

[@markschmitz5038]

Well, what happened? Did anyone ever try it? Did it work?

[@doubleheadedeagle6769]

Like peanut butter and jam sandwiches?

[@e1123581321345589144]

7:17 every fantasy game ever: *picks up armor off a guy half his size *fits perfectly!

[@jackthelucario]

30:46 I'm a bit confused, did he say it was a hundred pound bow? Sounded like he said it was a hundred pound bow. Looks like a hundred pound bow too. Pretty good bows, those hundred pound bows.

[@brettxsmith]

And I have seen and drawn a few hundred pound bows in my day

[@mikelbasch7117]

was it a hundred pound bow?

[@justtime6736]

Y'all got it wrong. It is a hundred, one pound bows.

[@thegames4565]

Hey I'm not an expert so take this with a grain of salt. But I feel like that's a hundred pound bow.

[@miguelmontenegro3520]

When you don't know If you want to be a warrior class, or a ranged class

[@Beardshire]

Shieldbow incoming?

[@undertakernumberone1]

@@Beardshire the Shiebow?

[@patheronaetherson2860]

Melee or ranged warrior

[@seanc9520]

He is a believer that class and levels are STupID😎

[@maaxorus]

Pick a class that can do both, like a Rogue or Fighter.

[@Yes-gu2wn]

But how does it fair against... DRAGONS!

[@haillobster7154]

It drove them extinct.

[@bgonzales817]

Why else would you make this lol

[@kkTeaz]

@@bgonzales817 ikr

[@kkTeaz]

@@bgonzales817 totally not for a medieval battle against an enemy far off east *NO* it's for *DRAGONS*

[@toryunaminosaki1022]

probably very poorly...fire and all that xD

[@anon5725]

When you had this idea of a weapon but you where 99% sure it would be a horrid idea and then shad comes along and makes a video

[@JustARandomMexican]

As a LARP/battle-game archer, it was really cool watching you come to the same conclusions that I naturally came to through actually fighting with a bow in close-quarters situations. Ideas from this video I can back-up: I use a very small rectangular strap targe on my (left) bow arm (small shield > no shield). The outer strap hooks under my thumb as you described. I always rest my arrows on the right side (away from the shield). I keep my back-up sword on my back and it's one-handed so I don't have to drop my bow to fight melee (fun note bow + shield both in one hand can block A LOT of attacks; good way to break your bow though and we simulate that in game). With a good sheath and practice, you can almost always draw your sword to threaten a melee attacker after missing your arrow. From your other videos: Adding a decent pauldron on your upper shield arm turns that entire arm into a wall of defense to block with (I have a leather one myself). Additionally, resting an arrow on the outside of the bow is almost always faster and speed is invaluable. But my opinion on the best way to use a bow in actual melee combat? Toss it at your opponent to tangle them up while you ready your sword (that's a bit hardcore for LARP though).

[@andrewchapman2039]

Poor Sean Bean, can't even survive an episode of Shadiversity without dying tragically.

[@adrianmcbride1666]

He survived most of an elder scrolls game though.

[@Dalestarbuck]

@@adrianmcbride1666 "Most" but not all of it, so even in games he can't catch a break lol

[@AuroraVeil_]

Seen been Shawn bawn

[@mgtocrateezspeaks3971]

What's even more sad how many memes there'll be when he dies for real.

[@justtime6736]

Michael Biehn has died in twice the movies Sean Bean has. Ignorance of this fact is a travesty!

[@benrex7775]

Shad is like the typical movie hero. Fully armed and no helmet.

[@9308323]

Gotta make your dollar's worth.

[@LizGridleyArtist]

Otherwise his charisma isn't showing!

[@graywolfdracon]

He's just using hide helmet from the options menu.

[@Marinealver]

So which army would Shad be in, Empire or Bretonnia?

[@DtLS]

@@Marinealver Fully armored with no helmet, clearly he's a space marine out of his time.

[@praetorurbanus2917]

1) Another reason to have well-fitted mail: weight. Having those drooping sleeves (or too much in the midsection) is weight that you don't need and will tire you out faster. If you were salvaging a set of mail, and wanted it for yourself, you could pay part of the cost of fitting it to you with the parts of it that get removed in the process. 2) If you were going to put a heavy(ier) spearhead on a bow, you could put two on to balance out the weight. Many spears did that, putting a (usually smaller) spike on the back-end, which both made them easier to use and let you stab down without awkward maneuvering. 3) The fragility of a bow is dependent on the material it is made out of. Wooden bows (basically the only type we have from the Medieval period) are certainly not built to whack an enemy. Númenór (per the Unfinished Tales) seems to have had a weapon called a steelbow, likely a bow made of steel. I can easily imagine other fantasy cultures using metals or magical materials (natural or manufactured) to make very strong bows.

[@rikospostmodernlife]

Akchyually, the Indians did in fact have steel bows.

[@TealWolf26]

Numenorean archers are my favorite.

[@julzbehr6696]

This is cool, you think half-shard bows with half-shard spearheads would work for a SA tangent?

[@Waitingnomad]

yeah +1 to this. Not all weight is equal! 2KG secure weight to centre gravity, you won't notice it. 1KG weights loosely attached to your arms where they can swing about? You're gonna get exhausted pretty quick. Exact same principle to rucking with things hanging off the back of your pack, uneven weight distribution inside the pack etc. The weight moving around means you constantly have to resist it and adjust for it. And it ruins your balance.

[@blacklegbeastro5295]

1)hiw would you drawr a steal bow.

[@egrif]

1 year later, fully plate armoured Shad muffled through bascinet ventilation holes: "Greetings, I am Shad, and in this video... "

[@randomperson4198]

Also doing it in his castle machicolation and next him to his dragon. and a random pummel anywhere in the video. Plus wearing the back side and katana scabbard bow and shield on the back and the quiver is on side and also in the back cuz there is no such thing enough arrows. After few minutes explaining. He reveals the he's wearing gambeson and his chainmail At this point we knew. he is pretty much invincible he have no weakness. He cant be killed. The only thing that can killed him is his breathing problem. but the doctors already cured now he is a rampaging beast that destroy all evil

[@LittleDanny9899]

@@randomperson4198 Orrr have him fall over guess that works too

[@randomperson4198]

@@LittleDanny9899 nah his entire body will be supported by robot skeletal system. So he never fall

[@gonewithwind3307]

He tells the future

[@randomperson4198]

@@gonewithwind3307 who?

[@Scyzzles]

1:30 I doubt your first thought when being attacked would be "Oh shit, I have to defend my bow from being damaged" I would drop that thing out of the way and defend my life first and foremost. Or shield myself from blows with it; better it than me.

[@AlexDobbs]

Yes but their is some warning of close quarters combat and chances are you have to continue fighting with your bow later on in the same battle so keeping the bow safe is important

[@d.mat.zero6525]

"in terms of fantasy it just needs to be plausible" an awesome line Shad

[@MsWatismyname]

I just love that the first commercional flight was SpaceX's Crew that is named Dragon. They did not forget about the dragons.

[@MrEcoho]

powered by merlin engines so they also remembered to bring magic :)

[@danthiel8623]

Awesome 😎

[@Battleguild]

Just a little box and paper dragons.

[@Gokkee]

Boromir gets alot of shit for being weak to arrows but technically speaking he can take alot of them before going down so shouldn't that make him resistant to arrows? 🤔

[@HSuper_Lee]

So I saw Lord of the Rings fairly late in life and had already heard all the weak to arrows meme. Then I saw the movie and was like, "Wait, he tanked those arrows, what the heck are people talking about." So yeah, memes aside he's a tough dude.

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

That guy's weak to bullets! _He can only take like 10 of then before going down!_

[@alexbou7966]

Wasn't aware that was a thing. That's like saying someone only managed to take 4 bullets to the chest before dying. He got hit a lot. By arrows with massive heads, drawn by an orc with inhuman strength.

[@ricwalker6600]

@@alexbou7966 the truth is, that even in real live you can survive several arrows to the chest. it all depends where they hit. it they go into the few spots without pircing a vital organ, than you can survive it. Even when it hits something other than the heart, you will still be able to boromir some of the foes in meelee until you die after a few minutes because of the adrenaline and it actually takes some time until a bleed out from pierced liver or kidneys or the poisoning from cutted guts. So a real instructor of meelee combat always tells you to be aware of counter attacks if your attack does not instantly kill your opponent.

[@Santisima_Trinidad]

Technically, in the books, he wasn't shot by one orc (I know, ura-khi or whatever, orcs is easier so I use orc's) He was shot by like seven. There was a dozen arrows in his chest. And a massive pile of orcs at his feet. He probably took down more orcs alone than Aragon, gimli, and legolas did in the battle.

[@numbers9to0]

Everybody: Shad: Look, I've invented the Spow! Me: Can't wait to see the CrossBaxe.

[@keaganwheeler-mccann8565]

Cross*BASS*axe

[@grayfox6930]

Fuck yeah! I'm using that in my next shattereddawn run.

[@pixel_biscuit]

Actually, a double-headed axe would kinda work for this, it is sort of the right shape. Sort of. And then how the hell would you hit stuff. What you need is a CrossPaxe, which is a crossbow pickaxe. Minecraft has never been so easy. Hitting stuff is still going to be fun.

[@independentconfederate6604]

Gunmace.

[@Feraligono]

Dwarves in Dwarf Fortress will actually use their crossbows like maces/hammers in melee combat. Although they also tend to prefer charging into melee instead of standing back and shooting...

[@jerryjensen5700]

I'm just here to see the glorious and mythical 100 pound bow.

[@thestormcraft4012]

15:20 the best choice for strapped shields I think would be one of ancient Greek origin their archers which mostly used short bows often had strapped shields the size of a buckler strapped to their forearm while shooting, they also generally carried a xiophos which was a very early gladius.

[@Spare_Time_G]

Shad, you should add..hmm... some... torches on the walls.. to illuminate the day with PERMANENT MEDIEVAL LIGHTS!

[@counterstructure4908]

It's plastic. Outdoor plastic, but still. Those "candle light" LED lamps might be a solid choice though. On that note. I know Shad did a video about torches and i *think* about candles. But did he ever make one about artificial lighting in the medieval era? What was used where and when. Edit: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaSlf3uYjKyXmLs His torch video had more details than i remember.

[@michaelfortunato3117]

Yea verily! Placeth them beneath the MACHICULATIOOOOOOOOOOOONS!

[@AidanRatnage]

But it's daytime, why would you use them when the Sun is a perfectly good light source?

[@LuckySketches]

@@AidanRatnage It takes longer to burn people with the sun.

[@AidanRatnage]

@@LuckySketches who said anything about burning people?

[@xenotheincineroar3279]

I'm just glad shad is back and better than ever

[@LovesTrains440]

Agreed!

[@shadiversity]

The video is peak Shad, those who're familiar with my content will get it ^_^

[@thenight527]

Shadiversity I beg thee to do a analysis of dracula Castle from Netflix series

[@pinkliongaming8769]

I don't get it

[@sawspitfire422]

Who are you calling a who're? (jk Shad glad to see you're well)

[@drewlandry4349]

Can you do a fantasy remark on cecaelia and fauns?

[@dohickey7184]

Of course it is. there's MACHICOLATIONNNSSSSS!!!!!! in the the background

[@BrennonIsMilak]

On wearing a shield with a bow: extending the shield away from your body of course voids most of the protection it offers, but what if you held the bow in your right hand? Holding the arrow on your shield arm, you would then be pulling the shield towards your body and making use of the protection while shooting. Then when you need to reach across your body for another arrow, you cover your front. On using a bow as a spear: I don't know that I'd personally feel okay using it while it's strung. You have to consider in that situation that the person running at you probably has something sharp and pointy in your hand and a wide variety of nasty things could happen if that string got cut in a fight. You could get whipped in the face by your own string which would probably end with you being incapacitated long enough to lose the fight, and the sudden straightening of the bow itself could likely throw off your balance as well. Unstrung, I think it would be fine though.

[@scottyrose9106]

I like big shields, and I can not lie. You other larpers can't deny. When a knight walks in, with really good taste, and sticks that round thing in my face... My bow gets strung! That one's for you, Shad. You are literally in my top five favorite KZbins. Love you're videos. And because of them, I've been inspired to make my fantasy writing more accurate. And, because of this, I've discovered many limitations for my characters. And many more clever ways to deal with those limitations. It makes my writing more challenging, and much more fun.

[@throgoy]

Brilliant poem Sir

[@PresidentOfBepis]

Everybody laughing until the bowmen fix bayonets and charge

[@Maninawig]

This reminded me so much of Lord Marksman and Vanadis. Everyone laughter, until he shot them in the hand ruining their sword-centric career.

[@TheSilentNoise28]

Everyone Gangster until the Spearmen fix their Strings.

[@MrDmitriRavenoff]

Crossbow bayonet and bladed crossbows were in D&D 3.5 edition. It's ridiculous, but a fun idea.

[@PresidentOfBepis]

@@MrDmitriRavenoff I think 3.5 also added a bayonet for musical instruments, namely the lute and violin lol

[@keinenbockmehr1749]

"Happy Gasmask-noises are intensifying"

[@KickyFut]

Shad, you missed the easy solution to having a spear-point on one end throwing the balance off... You put spear-points on *BOTH sides* of the bow!!😆

[@alexius9072]

or one of those... what were they called people throw em in games... ahh yes a POMMEL on the other end thats weighted to counter the blade on other :3

[@shenlong3879]

I was thinking the same thing. But I'm not sure what the extra mass at the ends and the direction would do to the general dynamics of the bow.

[@hanshorstjoachim9498]

@@alexius9072 Would you still unscrew and throw the pommel then or just use your bow? Or do you go for the over-kill and put the pommel on an arrow? :D

[@Stefan-xt5sk]

Or do it like Runaan in the Dragon Prince series and stick two curved swords together to create a bow. xD

[@NieroshaiTheSable]

@@alexius9072 If you put a pommel on the other side of your bow-spear, you ALSO have a MACE! ...have we just come up with the first practical D&D TRIPLE weapon?

[@Jrlomay]

Shadiversity is making the next generation of fantasy's exotic weaponry

[@ampeyro]

And Joerg is making the weapons for their goblin-orkish-oid enemies.

[@tiagodagostini]

Soon expecte the double headed... longbow......

[@josephburchanowski4636]

@@ampeyro I find his weapons to look more Dwarvin.

[@rokka7188]

There are siberian people called Koryak, who wore armor with an in-build shield, with a focus on archery, which they would turn their bodies onto the side with it's 'wings' to block incoming arrow fire. It used laminated leather with wood, bone and also metal in some cases. So the thing is to have the shield build into the armor itself, rather than cumber yourself by needing to hold or strap a shield somewhere. An example: i.pinimg.com/originals/50/b0/a6/50b0a65088d3ad54cd7b998f9fa7acd7.jpg

[@miguelsuarez-solis5027]

Considering that English warbows could be 150-200 pounds I would imagine they'd be even more sturdy.. As far as the added weight on the top of the bow from a spear head you could just add a small counter weight at the bottom. Like a small dense ball of metal

[@joharakiri]

You could also just add the spearhead at the bottom but people aren't ready for that conversation

[@haydenlinkel3258]

Bow pommel

[@NorseThunderFox]

Neighbor's log. Well, he finally lost it. I thought he was crazy when he built his "castle". Now he's having a conversation with his dummy. No, no, he has gone too far, I'm moving.

[@carbon1255]

If you do go mad like that, you move to Australia though, anyway.

[@TyberZann2814]

I love that the target's name is Boromir. I almost did a spit-take on that.

[@Narrative_Protocol]

I believe, historically, both the Turkish mounted archers and the steppe warriors put a smaller version of a targe on their bow arm. It was buckler sized but flat and strapped on.

[@Jaelesh]

If I remember correctly, the Scythians also had a shield they used with a bow. It was bigger than a targe and was strapped to the shoulder and arm so it would hang properly.

[@galadballcrusher8182]

@@Jaelesh if i recall right there were also some italian archers who used a tower shield just so they have portable cover so to speak... from where they could shoot u and yes i m talking pavise

[@Caysari]

@@galadballcrusher8182 a pavise is a bit different to a normal shield tho haha

[@blakops000007]

What about Iranians and Arabs? Both had mounted archers as well.

[@Casedilla73]

6:46 Ah yes, gambeson, mail, and Nikes. The perfect defense.

[@SuperBuckg]

This man is such a big ball of energy lol

[@clownypants2718]

Adventurers: Why do we have to wear our armor while traveling again? Gerblins: I don't know, why do you have to? Adventurers: I don't know, that's why I aske-- *GERBLINS! RUN!*

[@MercuryAlphaInc]

EW! I DON'T LIKE 'EM! I DON'T LIKE GOBLINS! EEEEUUUUGH!

[@magicbeetle2292]

@@MercuryAlphaInc honestly a wolf or bear would have a hard time getting through armour so just general adventuring would need armour

[@Guderian2]

Goblins? Goblin Slayer wants to know the Location of that Adventurer!

[@Gr3nadgr3gory]

@@magicbeetle2292 if you're wearing armor you might be able to simply tame the wolf using the same means ancient men did. Feed it and make it understand you're better than it.

[@DragonGunzDorian]

Goblins ill like fire!

[@sayi50ch]

Now I require a "I like big shields and I cannot lie" shirt.

[@synapse0]

I know I share that sentiment

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Agreed. Plus it gives Shad an excuse to put a Kite Shield T-Shirt out.

[@michagruzewski5592]

The people have spoken!

[@leggotheeggodemon1323]

I think we need a full parody XD

[@haillobster7154]

I like big-muscled women and I cannot lie.

[@Gwyll_Arboghast]

over the years, shad has become more quirky and less awkward. simultaneously more weird and less of a weirdo.

[@bale7297]

29:39 "Big long sticks are very useful." ~Shad Brooks 2020

[@battoisoutto6657]

Here's a bit of thought for a thing about using a kite shield with a bow in that wall formation. If you had two lines of archers armed with shields creating a wall they could volley fire and retreat and take the place of each other. Also if such an army was prepared to commit to such a strategy the shields would most likely be optimized for this. having a slight cut out for the hand or even having that part be hinged would allow for better hand movement, and here's a quick thought I had. If you're going to be carrying the shield could you mount a quiver on the back side of the shield? In my mind this would make the act of pulling the shield in front of you to protect yourself also aid in quickly grabbing an arrow. This would also mean that a traditional quiver could be used for back up meaning the amount of arrows a wall formation could carry could really make it rain, (or even speciality arrows). Also if you have two lines going constantly back and forth I think there'd be a lot of psychological effects that could be done with simply coloring the shields alternating colors. It'd be memorizing. Now an army like this could commit entirely to be focused on ranged attacks basically never allowing the enemy to even get close to them, so a supplement I could see that would be equally devastating would be to have high poundage crossbows built into kite shields. Those guys would be the front line and stationary as the slow reload times of those would be countered by the hail fire of arrows. The crossbow men could then take aim at specific targets or calvary and equipping them with pikes and spears so when they run out of bolts they can continue as a defensive wall. I could see many ways an army committed to this style of fighting and warfare could use various tactics to overwhelm their opponents. Imagine a massive slithering line of colored shields constantly spewing out arrows volleys that block out the sun as it approaches you. Even worse if they light some of these arrows on fire then what? You got a slithering snake of shields that is spewing out pointy death.

[@kombinatsiya6000]

Piece by piece, Shad is realizing his dream of creating a medieval wonderland.

[@bramweenink7697]

A spear bow? What's next? A club crossbow? An axe arrow? Mail made entirely from daggers?

[@Woodclaw]

Some of my old D&D characters used crossbow bayonets 😜

[@Rakaziel]

Axe muskets were a thing historically - as were double-barreled flintlock katars

[@thegingerkingshanks7587]

What about axe crossbow

[@5tegosaurus150]

No, Sliding Instant Legolas with bayonets

[@marianfranklin8959]

I seen a few Mikos in anime having blades on both tips of their Yumi bows.

[@undertakernumberone1]

"Fantasy and stuff have adventurers just walking around and wearing maille like it's clothing..." Meanwhile Sean Bean: Hiked and climbed mountains in his Boromir outfit because he didn't want to take the helicopter to the set.

[@kylethomas9130]

Can't blame him, New Zealand is beautiful country.

[@scouttyra]

And Viggo Mortensen did it in his Aragorn outfit to give it authentic wear and tear

[@undertakernumberone1]

@@kylethomas9130 it was actually because, after an incident, he REALLY didn't like to take the chopper.

[@saturnjason]

Fantasy world = fantasy physics?(rules/abilities/etc)

[@daddyleon]

Haha, he did???

[@TrogdorBurnin8or]

Nominative determinism: "Bo Staff" vs "Bow Staff"

[@urseliusurgel4365]

The Cheyenne contraries and some Lakota warrior societies used a variety of 'Medicine Bow', which was a 'bow-lance', being a longer than average bow with a spear-tip at one end. The spear end tended to be carried point-down. Some bow-lances were never allowed to touch the ground, while others were and when the 'bow-owner' stuck his bow-lance in the ground in battle he could not leave its vicinity, unless a comrade picked it up for him.

[@Sethrain]

I prefer Robin Hood: Men in Tights LJ: "I'm Little John. But don't let the name fool you, in real life I'm a big bloke." RH: "I'll take your word for it." Also, the opening credits: "Why is it whenever they make a Robin Hood movie they burn our village down?!" "Leave us alone Mel Brooks!"

[@wyattguilliams9472]

If we don't get no tolls we don't eat no rolls

[@Y.Moroboshi]

Achoo: Hey Blinkin... Blinkin: Did you just say "Abe Lincoln?" Achoo: No, I didn't say "Abe Lincoln", I said "HEY BLINKIN"...hold the reins, man!

[@TheDarkalkymist]

actually the little john thing was deliberate sarcasm, his name was supposedly John Little

[@puchostinkt]

"The most armored aaaand armed I have ever been for a video, yeah baby." - best Shadiversity intro so far.

[@hhjk377]

Anything’s a melee weapon if your swinging arm is good enough.

[@BVasquezp]

A handful of jelly

[@Bob-bs9ok]

@@BVasquezp slap their face and blind 'em

[@5tegosaurus150]

True, I'd swing my ding dong and slam a llama with a ding dong.

[@akiraishin7141]

There are historical records that show that the Natives of Florida used their bows as clubs. When the Spaniards came, they shot at them with arrows. When the Natives saw it didn't work (because of the armor) they quickly ran up to the troops and bashed their skulls in. (I don't remember if I'm right about this one) Floridian Natives used oak as their basis for their weapons, so you can imagine how hard a wooden club must have hit. These same records also say that the bows were so strong none of the Spaniard soldiers were able to restring them.

[@bengrogan9710]

Just like everything is submersible at least once

[@jeannedarc3440]

“Bow Masterace, crossbow peasants” Genoese crossbowmen: “Are we a joke to you?”

[@nicholasroach880]

In the 100 years war... definitely.

[@volodymyrboitchouk]

@@nicholasroach880 it wasnt the Genoese' fault the french had no idea how to use them in battle.

[@Khornedevotee]

@@volodymyrboitchouk True enough. ;) There was a reason that the Genoese crossbow mercenaries were popular throughout medieval Europe after all.

[@Khornedevotee]

But I still prefer the bow and arrow over the crossbow and the bolt. Especially the longbow.

[@ManPac1]

I don't know if anyone's ever said this but Shad looks so damn iconic with that swooshing hair, well-groomed beard, and smart-looking glasses like DAMN Shad you can climb my tower and rescue me like a princess any time, hero.

[@snipetysniper]

Answer: yes. Source: Medieval 2 Total War.

[@michagruzewski5592]

Medival had to be great if they made Medival 2

[@Marinealver]

Does Medieval 2 Total War have MACHICOLATIONS!

[@EriIaz]

Thing is, those were rather small round shields, like strapped baklers. I imagine round shield wouldn’t get in the way as much, should be easier to operate a bow with that. Or pretty much any large weapon for that matter, ancient macedon sarissophoroi used similar shields in phalanx.

[@AntonioGonzalez-we4wx]

KZbin: Shadiversity has uploaded a video about... Me: Doesn't matter, play it!

[@aeronsausse915]

Exactly

[@kylethomas9130]

Not many tubers I'm like this with, but Shad is definitely one of them.

[@joykunjappu1745]

You could have a pommel like structure to balance weight to svoid the kick up from the speartip weight

[@AzureKing64]

It must be detachable, for ending enemies rightly of course.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

the only way to make a bow more dangerous, adding a damn POMMEL.

[@kaimagnus5760]

@@BigGayIncorporated On both ends with a mechanical switch for both sides that lets you fling them at your enemies.

[@BigGayIncorporated]

@@kaimagnus5760 terrifying!

[@o00nemesis00o]

Thanks to this video I worked out ahead of time that a ground-fixed shield would do it, looked it up and found out about the pavise shield, basically Italians stabbing their shields into the ground to create portable cover for archers

[@ikanberapi2189]

If youre enemy arent wearing any armor, you just need to cut at the bottom of youre string while aiming the spear head at the enemy after the string cut, the string should just flung and whip the enemy at critical hit. Though this technique only can be used 1 time and depends on your aiming skill and luck. Also you need to brought alot of string with you to perform this technique in multiple times. Its basically a one use whip.

[@NikoLavikainen]

Definitely dismissed the tower shield too quickly Pavises (tower shields) were notably used by crossbowmen in the 14th century, but also equally usable for archers Just need to prop it up

[@Khross36]

I was thinking the same thing. Also if you planted the tower shield into the ground right in front of a bowman couldn't they use the top to stabilize a bow like the elves do in the two towers with the wall at helms deep? It would be a straight shot but it would still protect a bowman while they fire and when the enemy gets close enough shoot a volley or two the discard then bow and pull the shield out of the ground and fight sword and shield.

[@kharga9046]

Shad looks awesome in this video The gambeson blended with the shiny mail, the sword, his new haircut, the sunrise in the background, the massive bow and hip quiver, but most of all the castle with MMMAAAAAACHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCUUUUUUULLLLLLLAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@psx2codes1]

"I like big shields and I cannot lie." I 'liked' the video at this point.

[@Nurk0m0rath]

Very fun video. I just wanted to add a few things. Firstly, a good blacksmith could make a pair of lightweight bladed tips with the nocks built in, filed smooth so they won't damage the string, and then you wouldn't have to worry about throwing off the bow's balance. The tips could even be shaped to thrust straight forward once the string is attached. Secondly, although this would be effective at offense, I for one would hesitate to use the bow back to defend with. The bow backing doesn't take much damage to lose structural cohesion, and neither does the string. And although I have seen a modern bow repair using multiple layers of duct tape, I suspect a typical medieval war camp would find it difficult to repair such damage in the field. I'm curious whether a backing of thin medieval steel would survive normal usage as a bow and still protect the wood from sword blades. Thirdly, I'm thinking that the heaviest tip I'd even try putting on a bow would look like a relatively lightweight Partisan. It would take some testing, and you'd have to get a good partnership between a bowyer and a bladesmith to even try. But it would be interesting to see. Finally, I would look into alternative theories of shield construction if you're seriously looking into pairing one with a bow. I've seen Scythian and Japanese armor designs that include a wide, flexible shoulder pad which appears to serve the function of a shield, though typically they stop at the elbow. Perhaps something in that vein would provide some cover against return arrow fire, though I'm not sure how useful it would be in melee. Or possibly existing designs would work with some simple tweaks. Your round shield might work beautifully if it had a pair of leather straps so you weren't trying to use the center grip. For that matter, the kite shield might have worked much better if the curvature followed your arm rather than running across it. But it might need a shallower curve, calibrated to only just contact the bow from a proper archery posture. Then to take cover, you could simply raise your forearm to put the shield in that position. I made a D&D character once who used a bow with a shield, which I imagined as a two-strap shield similar in design to a heater shield, made of wicker and the hide of a beast he slew on the adventure. But in the game, I was mostly using the shield in melee, and of course, game characters don't have to worry quite so much about arrow fire as real-life soldiers.

[@Ciperilla]

A handful of ideas for you: Longswords: - Time for your special longsword back-scabbard Shad! - Would it make sense to have a longsword on the other side, in line with your quiver? It might be slower to draw but would be out of the way. Shields: - The kite shield is at a strong angle when you draw, you could have a thinner one to save weight because the angle increases the protectiveness, can even deflect arrow (not ideal in formations but good for adventurer). - alternatively, you could strap it at an angle to compensate, but might be worse in close combat. - how about a buckler sized shield that attaches to the bow near the hand and has a gap for the arrow and aiming? in a siege, aiming over a battlement it could be as protective against projectiles as an arrow loop. - also, I noticed the shield catches your sword a lot (even the one-handed sword), again, maybe have it in a back-scabbard / on the other side (same disadvantages of course). attachment weapons: - how about a dagger sized blade attached below the end of the bow and extending past the end? could apply a bit more force as the bow is thicker at the attachment point and you could use the lightness of the bow and the long blade to take off fingers, hit exposed necks, stab at the face etc. - maybe you could have a thin piece of steel down the length of the bow (the bow's shape and draw would need to be built to account for it) to parry without damaging the bow. - you could attach a small mace head to the end of the bow, maybe the size of a sword pommel, with the length and lightness of a longbow, a hit to the helmet would really suck. Arrows: - if you have an arrow nocked but the person is too close to get a full release, you could use the palm of your draw hand to force the arrow into them with some additional force from the string. (they'll probably stab you at the same time so not much use) - if you don't have a backup weapon, you could use the bow in one hand to parry strikes aside and stab with an arrow in the other hand. - how effective would it be to throw an arrow at short range like a war dart, say at the attackers face?

[@SystemBD]

"I like big shields and I'm not gonna lie". Classic Shad.

[@jacket6213]

"You other medieval enthusiasts cant deny" "When a girl walks in with an iddy biddy mace and a round shield in your face"

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

@@jacket6213 Lol, I came up with a Baby Got Back parody when I heard that too.

[@MrHodoAstartes]

@@jacket6213 "you get STRUNG with your 100lb bows" "'Cause you noticed shields march in rows" "Right in the wall she's standing" "You see the arrows not landing"

[@IAmTheAce5]

@@jacket6213 'YOU GET SPRUNG!

[@UncleRJ]

7:07 "This mail is ragged like I picked it up from some guy, which did happen" Where did you get that mail, Shad

[@thegingerkingshanks7587]

From "THAT" guy of course.

[@mme.veronica735]

He fought for it

[@sjargo11]

Perhaps he Got the mail from a mailing, mail man wearing mail

[@michagruzewski5592]

"Honey call the police. Our neighbour is fighting orcs on the street again!"

[@RoutaAskel]

@@michagruzewski5592 "Aucks! And so far from Auckland? "

[@theyhaventfedmesince]

"mom he's doing it again. Now he's yelling to a doll" But for real tho. Shad looks like the owner of a guild in fantasy setting

[@realberserkpanda]

I will have to agree with this comment

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

He's at least a Level 50.

[@erikjarandson5458]

"Mom, now he's fighting with the doll!" "Well... is he winning?"

[@salamanderofvulkan7419]

That would be a fun Guild to be a part of.

[@isaackarr6576]

20:00 I had considered a tower backplate shield with the shield wall being two or three archers caracelling knocking while your back covers your fellow soliders.

[@hollyhartwick3832]

Shad, have you ever done a video about how we see fantasy game characters carry bows on their backs? How were bows carried? I’m pretty sure they were at least transported unstrung. Keeping a bow strung long term has a whole assortment of detriments.

[@narrowstone5363]

I never thought your weight was an issue but its nice to see you happy about something you've worked towards. Keep up the great work shad!

[@Petruhafication]

The bow-spear existed historically, not widespread, but we have at least one 17th century example of a hazuyari or yumiyari in the MET

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

To be fair on you Shad and as you addressed, your hauberk isn't even remotely tailored and that is likely making it much harder to move in, as you're dragging around unnecessary weight whenever you're moving your arms. I'm sure you'd find it far lass tiring if your maille sleeves weren't flapping around under your arms.

[@AlanGChenery]

While tailoring would be better because it'll remove the excess weight entirely, just threading some leather thronging through the links around the bicep and binding round the wrist would be a huge improvement by stopping it swinging about.

[@Xaiff]

Aaah, so that's why it looks so cumbersome. I thought it was how it was supposed to be. 🤔🤔 Edit: oh, Shad said it at around 7:00

[@IRMentat]

Indeed. Maybe try strapping some of the arm chain down. bracers come to mind first (light leather ones that cover maybe half the arm), maybe upper arm-bands if you are feeling adventurous. On pondering, maybe all those pirate-bride/Queen images featuring buxom ladies with puffy shirts while also wearing arm-straps had some interesting historical precedence.

[@nursiumz7238]

something similar to the shield tactic was used in John Flanagan' Ranger's Apprentice book 4: Oakleaf Bearers (or Battle for Skandia)

[@mairo4057]

Great job as always! So far you tested if shields and bows work together, each of them designed to do their specific things, none of them being designed to work together, but, what if: Someone were to design a full kit, from clothing and armor and gadgets (Idk how else to call them) to the actual shield, bow, bayonet or sword for shield archers to be possible. To a certain extent I remember seeing a video that talked about the Samurai and their armor, they were, in essence, mounted archers, and they were "Wearing shields" if you look at their armor. (I don't remember the details for the life of me) Any fans or any people interested in a fun project like that could do it to be honest, would be really interesting to see. That could even start a series going for "Things that could work extremely well but were never invented". Anyways, I'll just leave this here.

[@benrex7775]

The thing I would like to add, if your enemy has a sword and you use a bow-spear, then the String would be the first thing that is cut. If strings are somewhat cheap and you have several of them then it won't matter.

[@Rakaziel]

You could add a round guard at the top (albeit it would further slow down the bow and cost momentum imbued into the arrow)

[@BVasquezp]

Then again, the moment the string is cut the spear head will spring towards the attacker. It may be one use only, but the surprise could net you a big advantage or even a kill.

[@CowCommando]

It takes time and leaves you very vulnerable to string a longbow, so you'd have to be sure no close threats remain before restringing. If there was a second attack wave after the one where your string was cut, you'd be in big trouble. Then again, if the battle has gone such that two waves of infantry are charging your archers then I'm guessing things are going poorly for your side already anyway.

[@pirateraider1708]

Watching this, I can't help but think of a new medieval weapon. A longbow attached to a big shield with a hole in it that you can aim and fire through. The shield's still aimed at your enemies when firing the bow, and the bow also doubles as the shield's grip.

[@Rakaziel]

It would be a better idea to just give the shield (pavise or roman would work best) an arrow slit - that way you can still keep your bow when retreating - and you don't have the shield weighing down your bow arm.

[@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse]

You play mordhau?

[@synapse0]

That's the basic 2 people combo of pavese + crossbowmen / pikemen the French used so much. I can see various challenges downsizing to one unit, but the two certainly have synergy

[@pirateraider1708]

@@Rakaziel I don't know, if bow's not attached then you don't really have the option of being able to move around while you're also blocking and firing arrows. And being able to do that would be a big plus for adventurers.

[@pirateraider1708]

@@TheHorsemanOfTheApocalypse No, haven't tried it yet.

[@zinothofchaos]

The elves are miles ahead of us with this like many things lol. D&D 3.5 had a magic weapon called the sword bow that could change shape from a longbow into a longsword. There was a shortbow/shortsword version as well. It was really nice when I played an archer and could rely on it. Great vid as always, Shad.

[@graywolfdracon]

One of the many reasons I still play 3.5

[@pRahvi0]

Now I started wondering if you could use a sword as a bow... after all, they're essentially leaf springs both, just with different attachments. Of course, that'd be either a horrible sword or an even more horrible bow in real life due to the weight distribution. And the sword tip should have some shape to attach the string. But in fantasy, it's not _all_ that far-fetched an idea to my mind.

[@arbiterprime2145]

@@pRahvi0 i was picturing something like Illidans warglaives with a bow string running between the tips, so the limbs would be swords. would be interesting to see one of these mad youtubers try it with sabre blades or something

[@Taolan8472]

Would be very easy to adapt that into 5e Swordbow 1d8 slash / 1d8 pierce (ammo) 60/120 A slender blade with a slight curve, the Swordbow gets its name from an enchantment that allows the user to speak a word of power to transition the weapon from a sword to a bow and back. Henshin: Any turn the wielder of this blade does not make an attack, they may speak a word of power and the weapon transforms into a bow, or back into a sword, as a free action. You may do this after making an attack if you have the Quickdraw feat, or if you would gain an additional action set on your turn but do not use the additional action to attack.

[@Sip_Dhit]

5e DMs: "write that down, write that down"

[@Mavairo]

Man, I've been watching you long enough that it was a gradual change enough that I didn't notice how much weight you've lost until you put that picture of yourself up next to yourself. That's the healthy way of doing it, and it lasts longer. Congrats man. I demand more spear bow shooting though!

[@r.i.p.4485]

"I like big shields and I cannot lie," lol, coffee erupted and splurted from my mouth, I had to turn to not damage my laptop.

[@jeffcavaliere1571]

Shad is the only guy I could watch for 45 straight minutes without getting bored keep up the good work man big fan👍

[@v_artra5399]

"I like big shields and I cannot lie. You other medieval enthusiasts cannot deny." -Shad 2020 xD awesome Epic mate, Another amazing video with worthy quotes! I hope one day we can see a more finished and stylized look of your back scabbard!

[@sssargon8569]

Hey guys, if you pay attention to the background in the video (sorry i couldn't get a timestamp, i can't seem to find it again) i'm pretty sure that shad might have a 100 pound bow.

[@bcfb21]

Something would stand out atrociously Me: “is it your glasses?”

[@mitchellbrandt3444]

my thought as well actually

[@sonofnone116]

Nah, his 100# bow

[@dariusnoname12]

Look into crossbows from game shadow of war. They put some blades at the front of a crossbow, which adds weight to a front but also allows you a way to use crossbow at a melee.

[@kaptnawesome]

Shad: Bowman! The enemy is upon us. Affix bayonets! Bowman: What? Shad: BOW-SPEAR!

[@Marinealver]

Well, bayonets is the concept of turning a ranged weapon into a melee weapon, and where it takes over 30 seconds to reload, 5 seconds to fix a bayonet is better.

[@GuitarsRockForever]

Totally approve. In the far future: "Guardsmen, affix bayonet!"

[@garethbaus5471]

@@Marinealver you need some practice if it takes 5 seconds to knock an arrow.

[@captianbacon]

Spow

[@captianbacon]

Or a bear

[@syntaxusdogmata3333]

32:43 - The most amusement I've gotten out of KZbin in a long time. Thanks, Shad!

[@dersaegefisch]

Man the backdrop looks huge from this perspective!

[@monkeytime3169]

I just watched a guy play in his backyard for 45 minutes and learned more than I did from a week of history class

[@deathhog]

Don't feel bad, playing is how humans have learned thing since the dawn of humanity.

[@kacpikachu5951]

If you have an attachment on the opposite end of the bow that was the same mass as the spearhead, then the two should cancel each other out, eliminating the kick entirely. That would allow for bigger spearheads to be attached. Additionally, the counterweight wouldn’t even need to be another spearhead either, all it has to do is weigh as much as the spearhead, so there’d be no danger of accidentally stabbing yourself when you go to use the spear part.

[@gnarl3232]

Shad: "Boromir, we know how much you love bows..." Me: "SHOT THROUGH THE HEART AND YOU'RE TOO LATE, SON, YOU GIVE GONDOR A BAD NAME!" lol made my side ache from laughing so hard Shad. Thanks for that. :D

[@mattedmands2085]

I love how often i am thinking about something and then shad comes out with a video on that subject

[@mattedmands2085]

thought about archers and no back up weapons probably better off stabbing the guy with the arrow then using the bow as your weapon

[@ryngak]

Wow, I can't believe that bow weighs 100 pounds. Shad must be really strong to be able to carry it like that.

[@williamvalleau5654]

Funnily enough, when you were talking about formations of bowmen with shields at around the 20 minute mark, it actually reminded me of a fantasy kingdom I wrote a few years where their archers did that. They used very Viking-esk shields and would just strap them to their shoulder or set them down to fire. And their archers would do volleys where one person would hold their shield for themselves and the man behind them before switching off. Sadly, didn't write them sidearms so a static formation of unarmored and unarmed archers is begging for cavalry