Valve's War on Consoles Begins

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[@TheDragonfriday]

After years of waiting on valve time, it have finally start ticking forward. Lady and gentlemen, half life 3 the new era of gaming has begin just like when steam was made then all the rest products that failed help build the future. I can't imagine them to lose this time, they got money, people trust. Knowledge of the gaming world and the internet. I would love them to be the lead for gaming as long Gabe is around.

[@MichaelNew]

My Steam Deck spends 75% of it's time connected to my TV as a "Steam Machine", and the experience is almost flawless. Valve has already done it. There's zero reason why a dedicated box would fail.

[@s4yto]

a dedicated box could be even way cheaper

[@bpurkapi]

but the deck is great because 25% of the time its not connected to the tv - its that flexibility that makes it worth it.

[@Rashomon20s]

Totally 💯 It fluctuates with me. sometimes it’s handheld, most of the time it’s docked. But I’d prefer a higher-end machine for games that are better suited for TV Play. Playing Hogwarts at the moment and would kill to experience it maxed out on a TV 🫠🫠🫠

[@nonholographic]

​@@Rashomon20s if they keep a steam machine type set-top or console at the same price skews as the deck they could easily put the cost into a really powerful APU that would normally go to the OLED screen and whatever else

[@Patrick-y4d1z]

​@@s4yto I think a dedicated machine would be more expensive because it will be more powerful

[@anssiaatos]

Valve is not fighting against consoles, they're fighting against the dominance of Windows!

[@josephleichtnam836]

My thoughts exactly

[@MrRoundthetwist]

Good point

[@juhadexcelsior]

while promoting linux in the most mainstream consumer grade push in history

[@Thornskade]

They're also fighting consoles because this is probably not meant as a desktop replacement. And that's a fight worth fighting because console closed ecosystems and paid online are awful

[@EggEnjoyer]

@TaylorMorgan-y2zYes and valve and steam have really good relations. Windows dominance will not be fought by a video game console. Windows will always be the dominant platform and valve is not trying to change that

[@user-jr6fw4qw7s]

Honetly quite ironic Microsoft seems poised to lose some of their market share to a former Microsoft employee

[@majorgnu]

Because they spooked him by getting too greedy by taking steps in the direction of turning Windows into a walled garden.

[@pud_aa1985]

@TaylorMorgan-y2z what you want is soft right now

[@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY]

@TaylorMorgan-y2z Are you a real person? This is the pinnacle of bad takes.

[@TonyFapioni]

@UCun4fCgUtGfPys-YqZn-LCA Lmao he left because he saw the potential of videogames as sellable software while no one else at Microsoft believed in this route

[@Jandro1083]

Valve failed because Proton wasn't what it is now. If the Steam Deck didn't fail, neither will the next Steam Machine.

[@googIesux]

This

[@WhiteG60]

I think it depends on cost and what their reasonable expectations are. Most people, even console gamers, have never even seen a steam deck. There's been about 3M steam decks sold. If Switch, PS4/5, XBox One/Series had only sold 3M units, they would have exited the console market completely. WiiU sold 14M units and was a colossal failure. Vita sold around 13M units and was a colossal failure. Dreamcast sold 9M and put Sega out of the hardware game. If Valve goes into it saying "If we sell 8M of these, it's a success to us' then yeah, it won't be a failure. But if they go in expecting to compete even with the XBox Series, they'll be sorely disappointed.

[@Jandro1083]

@@WhiteG60 Wii U failed due to software, the reason most consoles fail. They can release a Steam Machine at a $500 price tag and I think it'll do well. Again, the original one failed because it couldn't play most of your Steam library, but that's not the case anymore. And this is coming from a console player who made the jump thanks to the Steam Deck. It's the only console I currently own. I almost made the jump back with the first Steam Machine, but due to compatibility issues and no crossplay games at the time, I held off until now.

[@CasualViewer-t4f]

💯

[@Kinos141]

Not sure about the steam machine. I like the SD because it's a portable, whole computer, Steam Machine is not. You'll need to have a controller and hook it up to a screen, both something SD does out the box.

[@kmturley1]

Advantages of a steam console over other consoles: - No windows license cost - Access your existing games library - Upgradable components - Modding and fixing encouraged - Cheaper games - Larger library of games to purchase - Desktop mode - Could be used as a media center Probably more advantages, but for me the biggest is that I'm tired of re-buying games every console generation.

[@musketeer2727]

They alleviated that somewhat by allowing backwards compatibility in the past. Now, it's no longer a feature you could feasibly expect

[@juliansoria7733]

Can a Steam Console be used like, to download fan games and maybe be used as a normal computer for other activities, like drawing with programs like Clip Studio?

[@JohnJohn83UK]

You said it the same way I would have done. A steam console would be number one for many people that already know and have steam.

[@RyebredroxRPD]

​@@juliansoria7733Yes it could. SteamOS is a version of Linux that has both a desktop mode and a controller friendly UI you can swap between. I've downloaded a bunch of fan games on my Deck and they work perfectly after hooking them into my steam library.

[@o0junglist0o93]

If Valve keeps online free, Sony and Microsoft are screwed.

[@cangel8563]

I highly doubt they'll make pay for online.

[@thatoneannoyingtornadosire8755]

paying for internet twice is so baffling to me

[@RangerZero47]

People don’t learn. Didn’t Microsoft start online subscription? Xbox live now they have a subscription for mostly everything and disc free consoles. We live in a world where you choose what you want. I take the blonde over the brunette. I am going completely Nintendo physical and the same with switch 2.

[@Thornskade]

That's not up to Valve to decide and places like the EU and Australia have already proclaimed they are purchases and perpetual licenses.

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Windows games aren't locked down like they are on console so this isn't something they can control as easily, it's up to the game's developer to maintain their multiplayer servers

[@sdgx0]

valve 2015: we failed we could have done something valve 2025: step aside

[@The8bitbeard]

Valve took notes during their previous failures so they could do better next time. Absolutely.

[@IfritBoi]

Valve is the ideal gaming company. When they win, they strive. When they fail, they improvise for the next generation.

[@XGD5layer]

"Valve's war on legacy gaming" sounds like they're warring against old games and emulators

[@The8bitbeard]

Yeah, maybe "Valve Takes On the Gaming Establishment" would be a better title.

[@lyianx]

Right? Thats what i thought i was like "Why are they waring against old games?"

[@Aluze]

Right? I was going back and forth looking for that story

[@velgus]

Yeah, or even just "war for legacy gaming" would make a bit more sense. "War on" makes it sound like they're fighting "against" it - makes me think of things like "war on drugs".

[@Mari_Izu]

They still let games be delisted and think we shouldn't own the games we bought, so the war is against us too.

[@sikliztailbunch]

Vavle really has the potential to disrupt the AAA sphere. The game industry is suffering a crisis right now. Valve is known for delivering innovative, high quality gameplay. The world has given up hope on Halflife 3. That´s the perfect moment for announcing it. Exciting!

[@siz1700]

Valve? Linux? Half Life Three? Sounds very surreal!

[@Wizard_Cat]

The scary part is that they've learned of the number 3

[@SheddysGaming]

It feels like we might see some offical announcements from Valve very soon. Typically when the pieces fall together this well, thats when they pop up

[@FanTheDeck]

Maybe hopium bot I'm hoping for something near Holiday '25

[@rastamouse7861]

​@@FanTheDeck I know it was probably a typo, but hopium bot is a great KZbin channel name 😅

[@jaygordon4053]

SteamOS will be the desktop, handheld, and console version of Linux going forward, similar to Google's Android OS. Now it would be really cool if Valve comes out with mobile phone Android replacement next. SteamOS for phones would be amazing.

[@slaw1448]

I know casual gaming is very popular on mobile but it's a very different market, I dont think a lot of people would be interested in a dedicated gaming system. Its a limited platform and mostly free of performance issues already. Some version of Nothing Phone is more likely to gain traction.

[@wanderingaceminecraftandmo8034]

I mean so long as it is a good product with great marketing, I might look into getting one when my current phone dies. That might be a few years off, though.

[@lorgariiix]

Apple would pull the napster trick, and shut it down

[@richmanifesto1090]

Steam box + steam deck = what wii u should have been

[@Guitario666]

Ya i guess for around $1000

[@Bentmetal13]

@@Guitario666if handheld and box sold separately, it might had been a tough ask for parents to understand but I bet kids wouldn’t be mad to accidentally get one over the other

[@martinsamuelsson2322]

That would be amazing

[@WakoDoodle]

*Gabe* : But wait.. there's more. *Gabe pulls out a Steam VR Deckard* *Fans* : Look! 3 valve things! They can cou- *Gabe pulls out the new steam controller and puts it on the table* *Fans* : Oh nevermind. *Gabe* : With years in the making, we hope these will be worth the wait.

[@josephleichtnam836]

This comment makes no sense... it should have been 2 consoles? What? The switch is the refinement of what the wii u was trying to be.

[@Mololo]

I'd buy an oficial steam box that can run all my Steamdeck playable games at 1080p on my tv and stream from my pc and to my Deck, and with a steam controller with all the Steam Deck control functions at this exact moment.

[@Jandro1083]

Same here

[@boxhead6177]

I think they can do better than 1080p... a lot of the Decks performance is tied to battery life, slap a power brick and better cooler and you can max wattage and overlock.

[@Mololo]

@@boxhead6177 My tv upscales to 4k better than any streaming platform's 4k detail rebuilding. I'd rather have the console make it flow and let my TV do the upscaling.

[@andreamarques8328]

native 2k 120fps, thats all Im saying

[@Mololo]

@@boxhead6177 My tv upscales way better than the actual streaming platforms rebuild detail in 4k,. I'd rather have my console make it run nice and my tv make it big.

[@KeirosDragon]

As a Windows user since childhood, I’m really liking Linux and its performance regarding games.

[@philippossnortis2035]

Also privacy

[@411DL]

Well that's the problem... remembering how Windows used to be. Sure its code base wasn't open but you could obtain your software from anywhere and run it without Microsoft stepping in and getting in the way. Sure you kinda still can however The direction 'Windows' is going is like Ford making an electric SUV and calling it a Mustang.

[@linuxshawty]

95% playable on proton is sooo rad and will blow people's minds if Valve decides to advertise it

[@zsomborszarka2616]

Advertising it would be a fail in my opinion. The reality is more shades of grey than black and white. It is a win, but that number can lead to false expections

[@atomicskull6405]

Proton and DXVK is so good that Intel ditched hardware level D3D8/9 rendering in their ARC drivers and baked DXVK into them and runs them under Vulkan now. D3D8 and D3D9 stuff runs better with DXVK translation into Vulkan than it does using native D3D8 and 9 DLLs in Windows 11.

[@thomgizziz]

Did the steam deck blow people's minds? No, people liked it. Pull your head out.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@thomgizziz Huh? People's minds were absolutely blown with the steam deck - I've not heard a single review that was like "eh, this is alright"

[@lilaa3]

​@@atomicskull6405 wtf is that why they had those performance improvements on the newer arc drivers??? thats actually so fucking cool i love foss

[@3ZIO87]

We need this To ease Sony's greedy ego👍🏼

[@SheddysGaming]

I've been saying this exact thing for several years now. Sony is like your typical anime villain. They're so convinced that they can't be taken over that they become sloppy and lazy until someone usurps them and then they give that surprised Pikachu face.

[@DwigthAstacio]

@@SheddysGaming sadly Sony bet to the wrong horse with Concord, hope can focus on more fun new IPs

[@SheddysGaming]

​@@DwigthAstacio that's just the most recent fumble. They've been teetering from favorable to questionable for 2 generations now, IMHO.

[@3ZIO87]

​@@SheddysGaming 👍🏼100%

[@3ZIO87]

​@@DwigthAstacio We need Sony to diversify their titles like before, old Hack and slash God of War, Sly Cooper, etc., we have had enough of cinematic games

[@Pikminiman]

I greatly look forward to owning a whole ecosystem of Valve gaming hardware.

[@aramis4347]

If Valve starts making cars, humanity will evolve

[@RangerZero47]

Humanity will not! How long did the Ps5 pro rant last? Couple weeks now people are buying that expensive console like there was no KZbin videos talking about how expensive it is. Same Will smith and Chris Rock how long did that last? Will still making movies.

[@BLOrtega]

It'll be funny if Valve just makes a car powered by Steam literally

[@MrGamelover23]

​@@BLOrtegaFun fact, there actually have been steam powered cars in the past.

[@snarekeeper8053]

The crazy thing is, that valve is in the unique position where they will profit from opening up the operating system for their console to other manufacturers. For all they care they would maximize profit if most people would buy handhelds from other brands with SteamOS on them. They gain the biggest advantage by doing what is best for the consumer.

[@aaww1010]

You’re my absolute favorite channel for any steam deck news you help me keep up-to-date so I can keep all my software in check

[@ACECOMBOI]

Valve is like Tony Stark; they don't repeat mistakes, that's what makes them a unanimous success.

[@nuruddinpeters9491]

Thanks for these news updates! Best place to catchup on Steam/Valve news I've either missed or didn't fully understand - Adulting affords little time in between gaming and work =)

[@tonydwietwarze]

Steam os will be the nail to the coffin for Windows !! :) I'm all for a Real competition ❤❤❤

[@CasualViewer-t4f]

If Valve could keep these boxes price competitive like the Steam Deck I could see this being my first choice vs Xbox or PlayStation. I love gaming on the sofa so I’d be the customer here.

[@johnrickard8512]

It's about time a REAL competitor for Nintendo emerged. Given what happened the last time, when Sega hit a home run with the Genesis/Megadrive, the results will be glorious!

[@NinjaBehindTheScene]

I have an alien ware steam box. Back from eight years ago when it first came out. It's dope. I love it.

[@millerwrightt]

Same! I run an Alpha R2 to this day with a 2080 ti in the graphics amp. The consolized pc exists now, no need to wait.

[@juhadexcelsior]

@millerwrightt how's performance

[@3ZIO87]

The Power of Linux 💪🏼

[@walterbkeen]

Honestly see the future of consoles embracing mobility while making use of an e-gpu via thunderbolt 5 enabled docking station to ramp up the in-home experience.

[@edelzocker8169]

The Steam Deck is not sold with a loss because this is illegal in Germany (and the rest of the EU) and the price is the same here.

[@lionelt.9124]

Has that effected Microsoft's, Nintendo's, and PlayStation's game console prices?

[@XGD5layer]

​@@lionelt.9124 these days none of those sell below manufacturing costs

[@elijahmanaghaya6038]

...why is that a law?

[@XGD5layer]

@@elijahmanaghaya6038 iirc it protects smaller players by preventing a large player with deep pockets from outcompeting the smaller ones at a loss

[@richardhunter9779]

It does not have to be sold below hardware production costs to be a loss, because a lot of the cost is in software and support. That would still be selling at a loss.

[@eziothedeadpoet]

There are only 2 not ideal things about Marvel Rivals: - The battle pass still is time limited in the timeframe you can buy the battle pass at (at least from what I could gather in the games UI) - The game seems to forcefully ask for Administrator Privileges each time you want to play it, which is a big security concern.

[@ConsolasEight]

My experience with the Steam Deck was fantastic. It prompted me to make the switch from Windows to Linux. All my games run, most of my software by now is open-source and Linux-based anyway (all the commercial stuff I would have forked out £1000 for to own outright is now subscription based), and the only holdouts can run through compatibility software.

[@Captain-Chats]

Do you use Linux on your pc, what version and what GPU do you have

[@ConsolasEight]

@@Captain-Chats I use Ubuntu 24.04 - the most recent one. It's the most widely used distro as far as I am aware, and I am *not* ready for Arch. My CPU is a Ryzen 7 7700 - intel's naming structure was getting on my nerves, and careful consideration showed this was better than the AMD equivalent of my old intel one. The GPU is a RTX 4070 Super - Ubuntu installed the driver automatically, I have encountered no issues in my games or software.

[@user-if9pp4vg7g]

FOR STEAM WE FIGHT! ALL HAIL THE STEAM MONOPOLY!

[@94norbi94]

At last, MSI claw got some recognition. In Europe, at least, it can be bought as cheap as the cheapest refurb steam deck LCD. It has a much better screen, no freaking backlight bleed. Better refresh rate and brightness. I'm not saying it's perfect or even better than the steam deck, but I use it more than my deck.

[@jeffrodrequez]

Popularity of Steam Deck will make a console a hit.

[@HateUTub]

Steam Deck is the best thing to ever happen. I'm fortunate enough to have a real decent gaming desktop computer but it's rarely powered on as I'm always on my steam deck.

[@GeoChild]

I wasn’t too excited about a set top Steam Machine - I love laying on the couch or in bed playing on my Steam Deck. The idea of easily streaming games at higher quality from a Steam Machine to my Steam Deck has me VERY interested. 👀

[@thomgizziz]

can already do that with a PC...

[@GeoChild]

@ Yeah, but the value proposition of a Steam Machine is the same as a Steam Deck: an affordable standardized gaming device. I’ve been out of the upgrading PCs piece by piece to keep up with more demanding games for a long time.

[@biomseed]

Wasn't it called Galileo before?

[@GooseDaPlaymaker]

Okay, Rich! Try to put the pom-poms down, please! 😅

[@Reaperman4711]

Oh good. Now when I buy a console I don't have to rebuy a bunch of games I already have on steam.

[@emiliosanchez4610]

I look forward to a new Steam Machine. The user experience is already top notch in big picture and I'd argue is better then a normal console experience. Even if someone is not interested in a new console; Valve will no doubt focus even harder on new features and updates which will benefit everyone using big picture regularly which I do :D Fingers crossed Valve delivers!

[@juhadexcelsior]

@@emiliosanchez4610 i think big picture is a waste of resources at this point.

[@s01itarygaming]

Hey Rich! I know you're a massive fan of gyro and snapstick so I was wondering if there's any sort of preset or defaults you go to, or community profiles i could grab? As someone that has been playing shooters on mouse and keyboard for decades I've found it hard to transition to joystick and even gyro. That being said I think Marvel Rivals is *different* enough of a game that maybe I can use it as a springboard to start getting used to gyro and flickstick, but I'm looking for a nice starting point so I don't have to spend too much time getting a good baseline. Thanks for all your continued work as well! :D

[@misterk7_-]

The Deck Max console with the Deck Controller running SteamOS. How do those names sound for Valve’s next hardware? It’s what I came up with.

[@A_majorGaming]

I am a PC player and my steam library is massive. I would jump on a Steam machine quick. My pC is setup in my living room and its a complete triple monitor setup. But I would love to have something connected to my bedroom tv in case I wanted to stay in my room or go from room to room without losing progress while not having too much of an diminished quality from my pc.

[@SaltyMaud]

Steam is already a de facto monopoly on digital PC games distribution, Valve gaining even more power on the PC games market is a scary thought.

[@brazilanubis3]

This THUMBNAIL, RICK! Good stuff!

[@DJSTRANGLER]

the thumbnail is gold.

[@jamesbrenton5390]

If you run Rivals with proton experimental, it will improve the cutscene issue, Have fun!

[@slothninja2139]

Thank you. Does it help with the after action report crash after a match

[@mischol]

9:21 , i really cant imagine them to "keep the touchpads for themselves". my guess would be that they know that the majority does not need those touchpads as games have good native controller support especially on steam already, thus making them optional. for me personally, i would love to have that all in one controll-monstrosity they are working on, but i also like to play rts games, or games like software inc where a mouse/touchpad is just needed for a good experience playing from the couch :D others might like a more "normal" option wich probably comes in at a little lower price, but it will still have the same gyro-touch-sticks that everyone else has, thus making it a more widespread, maybe in the future better/more often implemented option. i love watching what valve currently does, they are clearly and intentionally moving forward, showing a lot of experience and thought behind every decision. keep up the good content!

[@grandmoffporkins]

When I dock my Steam Deck with my office’s 720p TV the experience is flawless. On my 4K living room TV? Less so. I’ve been hoping for a dedicated set top box so my kids will stop bugging me to use the Deck or fight over the PC

[@Lizzygnome]

I love valve. I specifically went for a steam deck over a windows handheld because of the seamless experience. It’s convenient, has a dedicated community that expands Linux to allow for more games to work or be modded. The thing just works! I wish Valve all the best in their continued success

[@uwayzofoster4753]

That thumbnail is both hilarious and awesome!! Epic!!!😂

[@led-0185]

The Steam Machines and the Steam Controller were stepping stones. Innovation doesn't happen overnight, and their past "failures" are opportunities to learn about what works and what doesn't so they can improve for their next attempt.

[@3d4me32]

all hail Gabe, as he has brought us Steam OS! Can't wait to get my Steam Deck Oled.

[@innobius4898]

MS is currently working hard to ensure steamos will be widely adopted. Stealing data screenshoting and uploading your desktop every 5 seconds etc etc.

[@slaw1448]

For real, MS continously tripping on its own legs, so nice of them to give Valve an opening. Maybe they just really like their ex employee.

[@guillermoreyes9054]

I have only one fear regarding Valve. That everything goes to hell when Gabe is no longer with us and Valve starts changing things for the worst.

[@EviLsocoban]

3:33 what game is this?

[@ryan9881]

i had the same question, the name is cocoon

[@EviLsocoban]

@@ryan9881 thanks a lot, i just couldn't find on my own.

[@brokenhanz-o4m]

10 yrs from now, it would be really nice to have AR/VR sunglasses that I can play vampire survivors on via brainwaves without a controller while I’m at work.

[@Dracossaint]

My wallet is terrified. I'm super excited to see these come to market. Especially if they have level 1 wide vine support, also the controller would be awesome to have.

[@thomgizziz]

who cares about DRM? Are you slow?

[@ttauket]

I wonder if they are going to annonce everything (Ibex, Roy, Deckard, SteamOS 3 going public and Half Life 3) at the same time and just breaking all the freaking Internet at once ?

[@thomgizziz]

Nobody is breaking the internet... you are on a hype train and you aren't looking intelligent or reasonable.

[@ttauket]

@@thomgizziz Yeah probably, but thanks for the kind message anyway.

[@Esher502]

Btw you can fix black screen on rivals by forcing proton experimental (it worked for me but others said it didn’t work for them but try it anyway)

[@lumeronswift]

The one thing Valve doesn't have over (most) consoles... is physical media and the ability to play without an account. I do like the Deck and playing games via Steam, but it's just not the same as being able to plug in a cartridge or spin up a disc without waiting ten hours for a download. And yes... I know some titles release unfinished - like the PS5 issues with Jedi Survivor until after a 100GB patch. Fairly rare in the console space (very common in the PC space, since it's harder to pre-test all PC hardware combinations than it is to run benchmarks against two or three console standards)... certainly consoles aren't immune to it, but they still have the base game on disc.

[@thejackimonster9689]

As someone mostly playing on a desktop Linux PC for over 10 years... yeah, I don't see a dedicated gaming PC running SteamOS fail any time soon. Especially when they sell own hardware with AMD GPU as they have already with the Steam Deck.

[@xmaxdamage]

how many decks have been sold in your opinion?

[@strangedotmachine9281]

This is a very compelling offering. I just wonder what the hardware / price would look like? Would it be capable of 4K gaming at 60 FPS?

[@BADLANDS921]

The time is now!!! Rise up deck heads!!!

[@TheWerehxg]

rise up what now?

[@Epic3032]

hmmm Valve also needs to be in talks with EA, Ubisoft, EPIC and Microsoft Game Pass to allow their launchers and games to work on Steam OS. Hopefully they'll have apps like Netflix Disney+ etc to work on it too...that would be a perfect entertainment system for the lounge room. Hopefully upcoming Steam consoles will have Strix Halo APUS that would be awesome .

[@FlorisDVijfde]

A console would be a total powermove by Valve. Plenty of folks like me chose a console because it's easily connected to a tv, a PC is not necessarily (it is at my home now but my setup is hardly standard). And just look at the size of their catalog, even PSstore cannot top that.

[@Cuperino]

If I were in the market for a console, I would get one that allowed me to reproduce media, like the more complete smart TVs do. Media apps could run from a browser, but they must to feel like a 1st party experience. By that I mean controls need to be well integrated and video must reproduce at its maximum quality, with no degradation. The idea is to have a pleasant experience and being able to switch from one experience to another.

[@samuelgeiger9691]

I have hooked up my gaming PC to my TV via an optical HDMI cable and do screen mirroring with my 4k monitor. I run nobara linux that boots directly into steam big picture mode. I turn on the PC, grab my controller and just start playing. Feels like a console and the user experience is top notch. And I would still buy a steam console for the bedroom. 😅

[@steven2809]

'Optical HDMI cable'...?

[@KM-hk8tc]

Does it make sense to buy an SD OLED still? When one hears all the “Rog Ally X this!” and “possible SD2 that!” one with few dollars gets worried

Do not listen to anyone and go for it. I'm enjoying every bit of the deck.

[@slothninja2139]

The steam deck is a lot of fun with a lot of customization. I spent the first two days thinkering before I ever seriously gamed.

[@decisionparalysis7856]

I think it would be pretty cool if Valve got into the physical release market too, I know it is a bit counter intuitive. I would love to own official Valve released physical copies of games, no big box type product just the basic case and game. I kind of wish they would make a Steam Deck light also, just a smaller version of the Deck, of course with more limited ability, you just have to know what you are getting, I have many games that would work well on such a device. I love my Steam Deck but I don't take it with me to work due to the size, I mostly play my 3ds in that case. Valve just rocks, they already nail everything. Really I could not ask more of them.

[@Lestibournes]

Valve didn't try making its own console before. It tried making an OS and partnering with 3rd party PC manufacturers to sell gaming PCs that run its OS.

[@ThisIsAUsername69]

I was surprised there were no server issues with Marvel Rivals. Recalling back to OW2. And Overwatch should have known and prepared for it, because it had an existing playerbase and some idea of what they'd have to deal with. The monetization in Marvel Rivals is great too. The first thing I check is the scummy stuff. In a lot of games there's that trend of pricing an item at for example, 500 premium currency, but the 5$ gets you 400 or 450 of that currency, forcing you to buy two of that pack to get that one item you wanted, and wasting money. In Rivals its a 1 to 1 exchange, PLUS there's the option for getting 100 premimum currency for 1$, if you really want to be precise. Its awesome. The battlepass thing is nice too, although I've never seen much value in battlepasses in games. The only reason I didn't give them any money yet is because the performance is absolutely abysmal, and I don't know if I'll be playing much if they don't fix it. Unfortunately its following a lazy dev + UE5 game combo trend a lot of other games seem to be following lately, where they're replacing optimization with upscaling and relying on your 2000$ GPU to fix the problems. But upscaling looks like crap, and I don't have a 2000$ GPU, and I won't for a few years still, so... xD

[@SrslyTony]

Might give my Steam deck to my brother if the steam box actually does happen. 90% of the decks playtime I've spent docked because it's my first pc and I liked playing bigger games like MH World, GTA4 and Payday 2 with HDR.

[@jordanwright5795]

I’m all for a set top steam device. I have a higher end PC / dual 4090s / 64core CPU I use for my job as a VFX artist that I also use for gaming in my downtime but found really enjoy the simplicity and convenience of my steam deck. So much so that I’m willing to take a degrade in the visual fidelity for the other benefits that the steam deck offers.

[@Fearthelettuce]

I'm so excited for a steam console. I have a gaming PC but would love something more powerful than the steam deck for couch gaming / couch co-op / party games. The process for streaming from my pc to my TV is always cumbersome and it takes way too long to get controllers set up for 4p couch gaming.

[@Shadow-Joop-157]

PC gaming is better than console gaming, it's just harder to get into, but with the Steam Deck and Steam Box that's no longer a problem. but this is mainly going to be a problem for Sony. Microsoft is trying to make everything in to an Xbox so they won't be affected by the Steam box. And Nintendo has so many niches in the market, with their focus on gameplay, their kid friendly games, the fact that Nintendo went fully handheld, and their existence in other entertainment industries such as their theme parks, a museum, their movies, and millions of merchandise.

[@sihTdaeRtnaCuoY]

I hope they make the new Steam machine able to stream local media files in a user-friendly way. Let it replace android boxes and be my media PC as well as be a PC/Console hybrid.

[@KaiHighwind]

If the bring out 1080p box at around 600, 1440p box at around 900 and a 4k box at around 1300 that vould be amazing but pricing would be very difficult it more likely be 800, 1200 and 1800..

[@dallionaire8947]

I hope this comes true, and soon. Backwards compatibility is a big deal for me. I hate how PlayStation has treated their library and I also dislike windows. If this could play Roms as well it’s the icing on the cake

[@psybertao]

That split contriller is interesting. Instead of misplacing my controller, I'll be able to misplace half of it twice as often.

[@KatSoEpic]

If your talking about what's shown at 2:06, it's a leaked vr controller for the deckard, split controllers are the default for vr so both our arms can be tracked making vr more Immersive and intuitive, this controller is not meant for pc use, instead it's mean to be used solely in vr games.

[@quinndonnelly]

I hope if they release a steam machine 2.0 it has CEC + Wake with controller + 4k upscale support like the PS5, through something like DLSS or the AMD equivalent. Then I’d be 100% on board

[@DuckingAround58]

As much as I am looking forward to the new console I still think a Steam app for Xbox would be a big win for both companies

[@SlyMelodica.]

They do this to supplement the technological leap for deck 2 im for it

[@gorochaan]

Valve is destined to win this war, because microsoft is going to basically force gamers to change their system. The sheer amount of settings, spywares and software we might not even be aware of is astounding in windows. This will make gamers to choose SteamOS for playing and MAYBE have a bootloader for windows if needed for work.

[@fantom0369]

Valve didn't fail, they counted on OEMs that had no skin in the game to follow through and they didn't do it. half of them stopped shipping the "Steam Machine" they made with SteamOS without giving it much of a chance and most of them made overpriced underpowered PCs and slapped the Steam Machine logo on it. I don't think Valve should be held accountable for that.

[@akuma2124]

Looking forward to what Value has to bring out. I was interested in that hori controller but after seeing the layout, I wouldnt get one. I'd be interested in a steam console, depending on price. Im still looking forward to a steamOS general ISO, and im sure a lot of people are also waiting for this. They're only going to help Linux gain market share once they do that, as people look at migrating off Win 10 due to end of life, and possibly off Win 11 due to all the recall and other AI features. Lastly, 2:18 contextually, it sounded like you used the term 'light-years' as a measurement of time. Its a measurement of distance. I try not to pick at people's choice of words, but this is one of the few that always gets to me when its used wrong.

[@HH-xf9il]

With the crazy GPU prices ... a well priced, well optimized Steam Console would be Godsend this time

[@SuHomunculoRiko]

if the console is like the steam deck in compatibility, you will be able to download pretty much ANY game, even if they aren't on steam, or if they are for another console with an emulator, it'll be THE console, no other console will be as console as this console

[@robdonnelly4995]

I am praying for the day I build a SFF Nvidia Rig and slap SteamOS directly on it for the lounge 🔥🔥🔥

[@rocknflip66]

7:00 I’m all for a new steam console, as long we can finally bypass anti-cheat 😅

[@momenteimlicht]

i will never buy a console again. But if valve gets in to the game i am in. The Steamdeck is pure GOLD !!!!!

[@anakinchromosomewalker7031]

I would buy it if it supports physical media, outside of GOG, I trust no online store to actually give me the ownership over the product I buy, and not one day wake up and see the software I paid for is now not in my library because the publisher decided that we nedd to re-buy version 1.01 of the same game.

[@BartemPlus]

I'm not so optimistic. PC builders margins are already razor-thin, so this Valve Console PC is either gonna be prices similarly, underpowered or locked down to avoid external stores/non gaming use. The only possible way that it may succeed and not be a menace to players is by setting a target PC configuration, and optimise cost on that specific configuration, but this tactic will be copied not long after the lunch by every other pc company

[@hypothalamusjellolap8177]

Why make a set top box? Just make a dual gpu or dual power mode steam deck. Use vulkan's multi-gpu functionality with proton and allow it to scale up with up for 8 GPUs. Allowing you to daisy chain decks through a thunderbolt/oculink switch, leverage VFIO/SR-IOV too

[@majorgnu]

Having multiple GPU support is one thing. Having games that make use of those multiple GPUs is another. I'm almost certain you can't transparently split the work meant for one GPU into multiple GPUs. That's the kind of thing that typically requires specific application support.

[@hypothalamusjellolap8177]

@@majorgnu Okay, what if like proton (wine jit function calls) the rendering was done using a virtgl style gpu which then made calls to distributed gpus. Like one GPU renders, the other does XeSS or similar upscale. Like a laptop where the discrete GPU, eg AMD 6300m has no outputs and uses the output of the intel APU. When it comes to multiple gpus then we get into XDMA concepts through virtgl.

[@PotentialEnder]

If they come out with some sort of Game Pass on Steam that comes along with the new hardware. They are going to clean up.

[@Derpymech]

As long as itll look good on my 65" screen ill be preordering!

[@apolloforabetterfuture4814]

Steam is taking over the world you love to see it. Man if the steam machine launches with half life 3 that would be beautiful