FANTIC Caballero Scrambler 500 Deluxe REVIEW & RIDE

[@longjonwhite]

I’ve owned one of these for a couple of years now and I love it. I am just re-visiting old reviews to remind myself why NOT to go getting the seductive new Triumph Scrambler 400 !

[@COYGunners]

I’m cross shopping between those two. Coming from a Husqvarna 240 which would you advise buying?

[@longjonwhite]

@@COYGunners I have only had a quick look and a sit on the 400x. I really like the look of it. The cost and availability of Fantic parts and accessories is a bit concerning... Although mine is still going strong and it is a great little bike. If I was getting a new one today I would probably get the Triumph.

[@mehrbhaman]

​@@longjonwhitehow abt vibrations? Can I cruise 120-130 all day with a Caballero 500 or Triumph 400?

[@SortItOotMan]

This is the bike Ducati should have built. It's an absolute hoot of a moto which really has to be ridden to be appreciated. My wife sold her DL650 in the summer and was looking for something light, nimble that could do some off road that was FUN! This bike is that and the quality of the cycle parts is very high, way better than any product of China. Ricardo had a hand in developing the engine and the 40hp are exciteable Italian horsepowers! She went for the LTD Edition in baby blue. Great service from Martin at MHB Motorcycles who knows the bikes inside out. The brakes are also stunning and it runs on the slightest wiff of petrol for miles and miles and miles. Highly recommended.

[@ypcgnx7766]

I get mine for 6 months, 3000 miles, and I love her ! Amazing bike !

[@PeterOekvist]

It's a resonance chamber on the exhaust. It cancels out certain frequencies.

[@decab8292]

I really like the retro styling along with the daily use ability, I have to say it’s a winner in my book. I trust you will all have a great Christmas Ladies & Gents. Thanks.

[@lobolj53]

I love watching your channel and seeing the many bikes we don't get in the states. As soon as I saw the engine in the beginning of the video I knew this is going to be a great bike! I have a Zongshen RX4 with that same NC450 engine.

[@deanwilsher8189]

Great Bike. Was out all afternoon on my Fantic " Rally" version in the Sussex Countryside yesterday. Great fun.

[@davidmacgregor5193]

I agree with what you say about over quoting engine capacity, the Italians seem to have been guilty of it regularly. In the past I've owned a Moto Guzzi SP1000, actual capacity 949cc, a Laverda 1200 actual capacity 1116cc, the 1970's Benelli 250 Quattro was in reality 231cc, the Benelli 654 wasn't a 650, it was 604cc. Triumph were also guilty of over quoting capacity with the first T140V Bonnevilles in 1973, they weren't a full 750, only 724cc, they were soon replaced by the 744cc version that were used on Meriden and Newton Abbot built Bonnevilles. You didn't mention about the Fantic 50cc and 125cc Chopper models of the 1970's, they are now fetching serious money as collectors items.

[@woody1851]

Just drove the first 30km on my new Caballero.....I can confirm everything you said :-)

[@lauriecremore5601]

Just love your sense of jollity .... Merry Christmas 🎄 . And a better 2021. 👍

[@davidbesant]

I was first drawn to the 125 when I was looking for a good first bike for my son. These bikes are beautiful but expensive compared to the obvious (chinese) competition. But there's no denying the quality of these machines, especially the "500s". Don't think the loud exhaust is necessary or desirable; the standard exhaust sounds great! And I really want one!

[@willyrackham2957]

I saw this outside your shop ...I have to say I thought it looked gorgeous..classy and well put together...I think this or the Mash for me next year ...merry Christmas chaps keep up your excellent videos ....and can you do another one on clothing sometime as the last one was really good..

[@motorsforthemasses]

It is a tough call between those 2.....

[@garyjermyn6862]

Great vid Looks like an amazing bike , something different from the norm

[@lewiscollins4842]

Great video learning on the 125 deluxe and looking to move up to the 500 it really is a lovely bike

[@alimoshgsaran1849]

I was told Engine designed by Ricardo in Shoreham by sea in Sussex, they are big in Engine design, manufactured by Song Sin in China.

[@manugahan1965]

Beautiful ....!!! More beautiful then Ducati Scrambler....!!! I am italian ....!! "Motor For The Masses".... "Music For The Masses"...Depeche Mode!!!

[@rolandbristow2050]

Good video and sound quality was excellent.. looking forward to more videos in the new year. Hope you and the gang have a great Christmas and New year

[@sickfruit]

Its one of the prittiest looking bikes out there! Great review, glad you enjoyed it that much 👍 Husky 701 sm next please?

[@VinCent-xy5lg]

I spent a great deal of time deliberating between this and the Mash XRide 650, I eventually opted for this and the only thing I can say is YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH BAYYYYBEEE

[@SheldonElectricals]

Ado usually refers to fuss, concern, or time wasted due to trivialities or troubles. It is most often found in the phrases "without much ado," meaning "without much fuss," or "without further ado," meaning "without further delay." Adieu on the other hand, is a French word that refers to a farewell. It often follows bid, as in "I bid you adieu," as a rather dramatic way of saying "goodbye."

[@ianh9871]

Looks nicely finished and great styling. As for the price 5400 buys a used ducati scrambler. Great review.

[@agustincuevae]

I got both, but the rally version of the caballero,really diferent bikes...

[@uwejosef7043]

You are Right but the Ducati is used and Second Millions are on the Road and Third Point is that the 2021 model seems updated at the week points

[@martinellen1981]

I really like the flat tracker version the only thing i like to know is what are flat track tyres in the rain like.

[@nockianlifter661]

Getting mine in 2 weeks-same as this one but without the fancy pipe. Downsizing from a KTM990SMT. I wanted something lighter and lower to blat around the lanes, ride to the gym, take the wife for short runs to a nice pub in sunny evenings and do some mild off reading. Not a bike for long stints on dual carriageways but can manage it. Ridiculously simple tool to use on tight twisty B and C roads and can handle A roads pretty well if you lower expectations as it’s definitely not got the power for it. If you haven’t tried a light bike sub 150Kg then it’s a bit of a surprise-in a good way-as it just works in a low maintenance kind of way. Suspension is really surprisingly good for the price. The engine is really smooth to the point it could be a twin.

[@rveurope]

Great Video Love it specially the Green one with Brown Seat!..i am still a Bit undecided because heard of many blown " cylinderhead gaskets" and early worn sprocket dampers, some Suspension issus with broken parts...was there an Update to These issues in 2020?

[@hazcat640]

Needs a skid plate but other than that it is a proper scrambler. Sounds and looks good.

[@tonydare7614]

Hi, nice review. I'm thinking of getting one of these for the Paris region. The speed limits keep coming down (18mph in Paris) and traffic is terrible. My current Aprilia is too fast so I thought this would be fun for little outings in the suburbs and maybe beyond?

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

For Paris and the 30 in town to 70 on the péripherique a Honda 125 CBF is largely enough. 2700 €, sips 1.5 liter/ 100 km, sturdy and dirty simple.

[@tonydare7614]

@@pabloricardodetarragon2649 got a Fantic a few months ago and love it!

[@pabloricardodetarragon2649]

@@tonydare7614 Thanks for the answer. I have no doubt, I love its design and seems of good quality. I'm too old now, so my vintage NTV 650 Revere will be my last bike. The 35th one. Have you tried it the Fantic on simple dirt roads?

[@tonydare7614]

@@pabloricardodetarragon2649 nice 👍 enjoy and ride safe

[@CordrP01]

Great review, have you ridden the 250, I'm wondering if the less peppy engine would be better for me off road?

[@manuelpereira1384]

Good evening, First of all, Congratulations for the video!😉 In your opinion is this the Scrambler of the moment? Best Regards and keep up with the Good "work"!😃

[@1990-t1j]

I missed this when it came out. A question: The rack on the tank. Are those four oblong-shaped things attachment points? If so I could attach my 10-litre rear-seat bag to it. I like to see my luggage is still there. I think you may have sold me one of these bikes. I agree with you about engine sizes. Why say it's a 500?

[@1990-t1j]

Just watched this again. Excellent review. 1990 [Nick J]

[@stephenstewart4295]

Are you sure that seat height you quoted is correct?

[@marv2820]

Interested but shame there’s nowhere to test ride one yourself. Can’t see me ever buying a bike without a test ride no matter how good your reviews are.

[@robedmunds7163]

Missed the 360. What is the black tray on the tank for, ashtray, Werthers, sunglasses?

[@motorsforthemasses]

I think that is for a tank pack to clip into Enduro styleee

[@MonsterBuilt]

I'm looking for guide to do the head bolt torque 1km service on 2020 model. I'm a 1st retired certified mechanic california and computer engineer last before retiring. I bought mine in Ecuador aug 2022 and they sold me a old 2020 scrambler 500 lot bike with the blue 50th aniversary kit. Service and condition has be dismal

[@curlytheunacceptable.4298]

There's some nice detailing on that bike a bit of looker, but the price made me eye's water a bit. Can I sell you a Mini 850 under the guise that it's a 2.8 ltr? Agree with over sizing bikes that aren't what is written on the tin.

[@dogshome7110]

My 860 BMW says 650 on the side. I might just get some 450 stickers FTW. Yes I know it's a less-slow lawn mower engine than it was, but it keeps me out of the weeds.

[@curlytheunacceptable.4298]

@@dogshome7110 Up to you what you put on the side of your bike, happy that it keeps you out of the weeds.

[@bryanmicklewright1417]

Ive got a stolen recoverd one and its not getting spark and fuel injector dont seem to be working but it turns over do these have imoblisers or alarms

[@Shinysideup]

Love the look of the frantic

[@matthewpreston5634]

Looks awesome!

[@customgadget3385]

Hi. How does this bike compare to the Mash 650 X - Drive? Thanks.

[@antonyhowell6189]

Happy Christmas boys. 🍻👍

[@朝の会-y745]

Flattruck500に同カーボンマフラー装着予定につき、良い参考になりました😙

[@pirodaniel2733]

Could you please do a test of the 125cc Scrambler?

[@mtbrider8913]

How do you compare it with the CRF 250 in off-road. Do you feel the weight or the 19 inch front wheel when going over obstacles? Thx.

[@motorsforthemasses]

CRF is lighter and simpler off-road. Green Laning on the Fantic is easy enough but the CRF will do it better.

[@fireblade_ninja308]

How dose it compare to the mash x ride 650? Which would you have

[@tarquinbiscuit-barrel5871]

Had a 500 for a few months now and it's a great bike. Can you clarify you comment re. this exhaust, ie would it fail an MOT with one of these fitted? Keep up the great reviews guys

[@motorsforthemasses]

Exhausts on MOT's are only really down to sound (emissions are not part of a bike test); and even sound is mostly down to the testers discretion; as long as it doesn't actually state "Offroad only" on it and I don't think it does. The exhaust is provided by Fantic as an option and they do state offroad only to take them as accepting blame, out of the running if the rozzers want to be arsey.

[@thra5herxb12s]

Further ADO. Not Adieu.🧑‍🎓🧑‍🎓 Looks like a really fun little bike though 👍

[@alexdire2405]

Would be great to see how you think it compares to a benelli leoncino trail... a much cheaper bike also with a Chinese engine.

[@nikos-giorgos]

Much cheaper but 40kgs heavier.

[@bartoszpajak2285]

Beautiful bike and I love it, however, there are several reports of head gasket failures on 2019 motorcycles after a s little as 4000-6000 miles. I’ve heard it’s already sorted out. Do you know anything about it? I’m considering buying one of this (the Rally version), but I have some concerns about its reliability.

[@nockianlifter661]

It was a cooling system failure from factory build. They’ve sorted it out and also reduced the thermostat temperature.

[@jamiewilliamson5903]

Lights dial/switch - No from me Ofcentre fuel cap - No from me (ocd too) lol With all the extras added on exhaust etc (which you will want) the price is up there with a 2/3year old low mileage Ducati or Triumph scrambler (800-1200cc) with all the bells and wistles on it! So for the same price to have a 450 chicheng(or however its spelt lol) on the side, I personally couldn't justify the price...saying that...bike does look fun 👍

[@markdearlove8634]

Good review. Fun to watch

[@bobwhite5274]

You sold me I want one but I live in United States hello great reviews thanks

[@motorsforthemasses]

No dealers there?

[@krisbreach4376]

Surely its 'ADO' !!

[@thimbur3543]

Indeed it is. A followed by DO. As in "Much ado about nothing".

[@helipeek2736]

Isn’t it ‘ow do?

[@birbeck87]

Great review thanks

[@CiBi1968]

O.K ! For this once i'll forgive the ⬜Video. 1) You were having so much fun & 2) It's CHRISTMAAAAAAAAAAS ! & We all need a bit of cheer this year. Happy Christmas Mark & Gang .

[@darrylredmill4376]

So the big question , this , a mash 650 or the swm super dual ???

[@motorsforthemasses]

Hmmm, tricky. depends what you want to use the bike for. SWM was good but ....what no importers.... Mash X-ride was great but the Fantic was brilliant.....Fantic...no, Mash, no Fantic.

[@BlazinBlades]

This bike looks so much better than the SWM Six Days, the only problem is that here in Israel it’s almost 5,000 USD more expensive than the SWM!

[@daveross7]

Exhaust notes a bit mince, lexmoto V twin 250 sounds better, is it much faster.

[@darrenwithers1878]

£4999 and it might have a chance.much more available for that money.good review tho👍

[@Orga50]

between the two, this one and the swm 500 outlaw, which one would you choose?

[@motorsforthemasses]

I think this for sure

[@Orga50]

@@motorsforthemasses what about the the Mash X-ride 650?

[@ampm9771]

Actually the 125cc engine isn't yamaha's. It's built by Minarelli which was owned by Yamaha. Now Fantic owns Minarelli. Also, many manufacturers misquote the engine capacity. Japanese for example still call their 1050cc engine 1000cc because they know how their fans are stuck on 1000cc wording "True 1000c" "Litre bike".... :)) Same goes with KTM that calls the 1301cc superduke R 1920 :)). Only Ducati usually use the exact engine capacity to name their bikes.

[@leon-lr1pv]

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[@quaxli]

How would you compare it to the swm outlaw? Is it worth to pay 2.000 euro more?

[@motorsforthemasses]

The outlaw was a great bike....problem is dealers in the UK....there aren't any importers at the moment I believe.

[@quaxli]

@@motorsforthemasses that's true, SWM doesn't do a good job on that. Same here in Germany

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

I wonder how these compete with the new Herald Brute 500.🤔

[@motorsforthemasses]

Indeed, if the Brute ever actually comes out

[@chayd8574]

Love the content. Where r u guys based? Do you own a shop etc. Thx.

[@motorsforthemasses]

Hi, in East of England. Lightning Storm Motorcycles

[@chayd8574]

@@motorsforthemasses oh great. I'm nearby. I shall pop a visit in the new year.

[@bren106]

It's the wrong word. Adieu is French for goodbye when you mean ado, as in Much ado about nothing. And yes I am a pedantic arse with nothing better to do.

[@kevinedw2002]

Thanks for the correction. You hear this so many times, and it really gets up my nose!!!

[@TheMrbazooka]

Top job chaps

[@manugahan1965]

Ciao! Amo le moto che richiamano il passato ed ho una Cagiva 350 2 tempi "ricomprata" dopo ben 31 anni e portata a casa da Ancona a Bologna senza neanche conoscerla ma dopo averla appena provata x solo qualche centinaia di metri e naturalmente con le sue ruote ed il suo motore!!! Scrivete Manu Cagiva su KZbin e la vedrete!! Ciao

[@BasherBrookes]

It’s got a nice filler cap!

[@ukvamp]

Aren't these actually 450cc and not 500cc?

[@cnrom]

So, who is this bike for?

[@danielkerr4100]

Anyone who wants it lol😂

[@roverroko306]

How many liters to the tank?

[@danielkerr4100]

Why wouldn’t you just google this? 😂😂 you’ll get a much quicker answer on Google than a KZbin comment section 😂

[@CamusAndCarrotJuice]

Nah I really need this bike though 😩😩😩

[@stevespiers9120]

Nice looking bike, but with that exhaust it's the same money as a Ducati Scrambler....

[@WillPower46]

My wife rides a Honda CBR472R

[@davidjones535]

So your saying you liked it kind of hard to tell lol , o.k. funny time over I'm 6'1" so it might be a little tight for me but Merry Christmas to one and all .

[@JoseJimenez-nx1xi]

there a 125 version of this bike and is extremly expensive

[@mohamedameen4375]

أَفَرَأَيْتَ إِن مَّتَّعْنَاهُمْ سِنِينَ (٢٠٥) ثُمَّ جَاءَهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُوعَدُونَ (٢٠٦) مَا أَغْنَىٰ عَنْهُم مَّا كَانُوا يُمَتَّعُونَ (٢٠٧) الشعراء Then have you considered if We gave them enjoyment for years, And then there came to them that which they were promised? They would not be availed by the enjoyment with which they were provided. (Quran 26 :205-207)

[@morini500dave]

Minarelli.......Mi na relli

[@markrigg7038]

Way too expensive, not even a yam engine, a better bet would be the mash 650 , the mash is much better looking too, but that's just my opinion

[@dogshome7110]

I like the look. The 450 engine output is the same as the (antiquated) 650. I had an over bored, overcarburreted, speedway cammed XT '500' which was fantastic fun. This bike reminds me of that despite the Mash looking like an XT. I would want more ergs from both of them though. The '500' could keep up with GSX1100s until Klingon speed due to the wide handlebars :-) Singles are the way to go off road, the more they can thump, the better. The Mash IS a damned site cheaper though. Cam and exhaust swap, teak of injection....

[@Ct125dude]

Too bad this isn't in usa

[@longjonwhite]

It’s 106 miles to Chicago, we’ve got a full tank of gas and half a pack of cigarettes, it’s dark out and we’re wearing sunglasses… Hit it !

[@jamescunninghamniven]

Refreshingly amateur :) in the best possible way

[@lilynorthover8378]

How about for old, naughty hooligans?

[@motorsforthemasses]

Great fun!

[@lilynorthover8378]

👵🏻😈

[@daveduvet2610]

You'll come for the bike reviews but stay for the Jew jokes🤣

[@spaceboyroy]

Me personally I think it's very bland and over priced I think the mash 650xr was a way better looking and value for money again that's my opinion

[@motorsforthemasses]

That is what makes the world so interesting....no prob.