Far Cry 4: Analysis, Critique and Commentary

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Far Cry 4. Some say it's the best of the lot. Some say it's a pale imitation of the masterpiece that came before it. Some think it's where Far Cry lost it's identity. Some are happy it found a new one, here, in the Himalayas. It's time to find out who's right.
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[@Whitelight]

www.squarespace.com/whitelight and code "whitelight" for 10% off. Well, it's been a long wait, but here it is at last. I've been looking forward to covering Far Cry 4 since the channel began. What a strange and magical game. What a turbulent legacy it left behind.

[@majeedmamah7457]

Never played it but here for your poetic delivery. Can't wait for assassin's creed origins.

[@pascalroosendaal4981]

We need a Nier Automata video

[@vBUMPERv]

I love that you take the time you need to create these masterpieces. It's always a treat getting to throw on one of your video essays about a game I loved. You never disappoint.

[@SpookyShayOClery]

I was hoping Arkham Knight would be the next video and then I realized both Arkham videos came out around late December/early January. Was that a happy accident or are you going to stick to that pattern?

[@kiddoramsey1668]

So true

[@michiganjack1337]

The hidden secret at the dining table in the beginning should’ve been playable. I would’ve much rather fly around with that psycho than help either of the two.

[@RandomIdiot419.99]

Should be a DLC in FC7.

[@Garrus1995]

They should have done that as a DLC instead of the dumb Valley of the Yetis crap they made. Fighting Yetis was fun for all of three minutes, after which you learn their weaknesses and they become a formulaic encounter.

[@icehoof]

New game+ feature, the first game was Ajay daydreaming what being a war hero would be like, then decides against it and joins min in spreading the ashes, and crushing the golden path because they're terrorists

[@TheMasterUnity]

The ending is essentially the same, you end up running the country.

[@sasaki999pro]

I just wanted to fight terrorists with my stylish metrosexual step-dad Ubisoft is that too much to ask :(

[@davidschulberg8584]

It always irritated me that Amita and Sabal wouldn't tell you the best points for picking them until AFTER the fact. I was always like "Then why the hell didn't you lead with that!?" It could also be a hint that they only see Ajay as a tool and isn't worth telling him all the details

[@orlandofurioso7329]

They do see him as a tool, after all if they took Ajay seriously they wouldn't bad mouth him with an mg42 on his hands

[@isdrakon9802]

Imagine in Amita lead with, "we can medicine out of the poppy's" then people would actually care. Also I like how they did make him into a great tool for killing a lot of people, and didn't once think that the weapon would turn towards them. It's why I always kill both of them and wish it meant that I ruled the country

[@gildedphoenix]

Yes, in fact, they don't even care about your goal even from the beginning and pull you into their rebellion. Their most help is just "we'll look into it". They never did. For the whole game the only one that was genuine towards Ajay *WAS* Pagan Min.

[@XhumpersX]

It was very obvious he was a tool to them from the beginning and they don't hide it. That they were blatantly evil? Not so much but that makes sense. Why would they let you know their evil intentions until after you have secured their power?

[@deckulus3815]

Dark Souls does something similar. The game manipulates you into thinking doing one thing is the good ending or right thing to do but by end of journey you found out it’s rather ambiguous choice. Far cry 4, you’re lead to think Pagan Min is the bad guy, by end of journey is he though?

[@Upsetkiller456]

I'm convinced the best ending in this game is the one where you just wait for Pagan Min to return at the start. I hated both Amita and Sabal by the end but, that is probably due to just how comically evil they become.

[@BWMagus]

Not only evil, but not even well explained. How exactly does Amita expect to make money off of drugs? Does she have connections? International transport? Ways around customs? Sabal makes a little more sense, but he doesn't really explain what his FULL worldview is. I mean, he's killing people who ever somehow helped Pagan...so, like, most of the country? Vaas was also cartoonishly evil but they explained his fall, they clearly spelled out that he's a psychotic hedonist.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Like in Far Cry 2 when your buddies almost all turn on you. Shocking.

[@qpwoeiruty850]

I never expected them both to end bad. I thought one would be good or the other. Nope. Both bad

[@cadenvanvalkenburg6718]

@@qpwoeiruty850 I think that was the best part of it to me. Rebellions are almost never better than the regime they overthrow. The worse it is, the worse they are, because the only way to beat their enemy is to become worse than them, and to appeal to all the fringes of society that they can. The American revolution worked because the British weren't the worst yet. Sure, they were colonizers, but they weren't the powerful empire they'd become. Most modern rebellions are against dictators these days, and very rarely turn out to be any better than them because of it.

[@qpwoeiruty850]

@@cadenvanvalkenburg6718 hypocrites to say the least too. They oppose the very things they do.

[@Stefan8u]

I always felt the Golden Path to be emotionless and not interesting, yet Pagan Min highly interesting and made you want to hang out with him, he was also the only character that spoke with any emotion about Ajays mother, which was the entire reason for the game's story.

[@tylertheguy3160]

I actually like Pagan more than Vaas.

[@twilightsparkle75]

what we needed was a 3rd line where you help pagan instead of fight against him lol

[@BWMagus]

Emotionless? I mean, I hate both Amita and Sabal, they were not well-written, but they certainly weren't "emotionless". Neither are the grunts.

[@twilightsparkle75]

@@BWMagus yeah emotionless, no, heartless, i mean yeah lol. inhumane? definitely lol

[@mr.2cents.846]

In the beginning Sabal treats you like a brother and calls you one. By the end he treats you like an asshole. Friends eh?

[@bogdan-mihaibratianu]

”If AJ burns the opium, then Amita smokes the copium”. Excellent timing and delivery. Superb commentary overall.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Amita is basically quite kind like Pagan Min tho.

[@senorbongo4975]

Pagan is easily one of my favorite villains in any game. I know some people have called him a rip off of Vaas but that couldn’t be further from the truth. Vaas always felt like his “calm” personality was a facade, an easy to see through act meant to make the people around him even more scared of him, just knowing that at any point he might snap and kill one of them just for the sake of it. Pagan’s “calm” felt more real, he wasn’t putting on an act, he knew he was always in control even when he was losing, and that’s a direct result of his connection to Ajay. With anyone else in the golden path, I doubt he could have the same effect, but because he knew Ajays mother, because there’s the possibility of him being Ajays father, there’s this twisted sort of familial connection that he seems to revel in. I can easily imagine him being bored out of his mind every day in his palace, and then finding out that Ishwari died and falling even further into depression, before being told that Ajay Ghale is on his way to scatter her ashes, and immediately perking up at the idea of bonding with his “son”. It’s through his connection and love for Ajay that he is able to talk to him and convince him to sit down and have dinner. You know the man is an utter psychopath but you also know that he loves you, that he considers you family and that he really does want the best for you.

[@BWMagus]

I think it's 100% certain he is NOT your actual father. Still, he basically adopted you for a while, and ever since you and your mom left (and that other thing I won't mention), he has felt that gaping hole of not having a family. Not to defend his actions, but without that, he may have been, at least partially, a good influence on Kyrat, but he lost his drive and now only kills the Golden Path out of anger.

[@lc756]

Ok vass more baddas

[@chillhour6155]

@@lc756 Vaas was such a badass that he got owned by a Preppy

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

Ajay's father Mohan murdered Pagans daughter Lakshmana in a rage because Ishwari chose Pagan. Ishwari, enraged by the death of her daughter and Ajay's half sister, murdered Mohan and then fled the country rightfully believing the golden path would seek revenge and that Pagan would crack and attempt to exterminate the golden path and nuke the country in the process. Basically it's all Mohan's fault, but Mohan is Ajay's father! Yikes.

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

@@lc756 vaas is like 5'5

[@Phantom-qr1ug]

I think more games should use the kind of environment as Far Cry 4. India, Nepal, Tibet and China all have incredibly interesting landscapes, histories, mythologies and cultures and it's a damn shame we barely ever get to see them realised in mainstream-gaming. Even though this game came out in 2014, I think it's still one of the best-looking games ever made almost purely thanks to the sheer beauty of Kyrat. The Himalayas are cool as hell is what I'm saying.

[@thientuongnguyen2564]

India? There's already some. Nepal? Already done. Tibet AND China? Yeah good luck getting a game in a modern setting made within any of those two regions other than Hong Kong or at most, Shanghai. Plus if you noticed, Ubisoft is also controlled by the West Taiwanese government, and one of the earliest examples was the Chinese merc you can pick in Far Cry 2? Yeah he was Vietnamese in the Chinese version. Or how Pagan Min and his men are from Hong Kong and not Beijing or something. Goes to show how much of a sniveling coward Ubisoft had been even before the AssAssIn's Cheek formula infesting all their games.

[@Dinjur]

Play Uncharted 2. Great game

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@thientuongnguyen2564 The fuck are you smoking? Go outside and touch grass.

[@TheUltimateHacker007]

Uncharted and tomb raider games did these locations great justice

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Dinjurall Uncharted games including Uncharted 4 are equally masterpieces.

[@svetly_]

wake up babe, new whitelight video just dropped

[@wizardsknowledge1138]

i'm awake

[@LyaksandraB]

I'm up, I'm up!

[@squashlubendaeblos2727]

thx god

[@umig940]

Woke

[@Egitheegg]

Okay baby

[@w_4ca]

The Golden Path: “Supplies are scarce!” Also The Golden Path: **Fires hundreds of rounds into the air after killing a couple enemies**

[@bellabuilder4160]

then they get mad when u do the same

[@arthurfleck629]

@@bellabuilder4160Then they get dead

[@seanm241]

IT'S OVER! IT'S FINALLY OVER!!!

[@samfire3067]

*gets killed my eagle*

[@hantumann4r449]

EAGLE!! Watch out for the tallon!! RATATATATATATTATATATATAT

[@boosted.boyo.]

Far cry 4 was a pleasure. Story may not have been oscar worthy but the visuals and gameplay were remnants of a time when games had deeper meaning than just being another shooter

[@jaanu2222]

but still not bad story at all , i've enjoyed it

[@h4rshturtle456]

Compare it with 5 or 6 and this game to me is the last good far cry

[@emaheiwa8174]

@@h4rshturtle456 I could not finish FC 5. It was boring AF to me

[@jv-man3698]

I must be the only person, who considers 5 his favorite. Guess I’m odd.

[@LDillon]

@@jv-man3698 I loved Far Cry 5. New Dawn was fantastic, too.

[@ostrichlord9097]

'The tiger's fantasy' You just perfectly summarised the appeal and nature of farcry's entire combat system in 3 words. That's some real skill with words

[@maybetomorrownewmaker]

can't wait until far cry 7 where we get to shapeshift into a tiger to kill enemies

[@kin-3877]

@@maybetomorrownewmaker in far cry primal you could have a pet and tell it to attack so we're already half way there

[@maybetomorrownewmaker]

@@kin-3877 well, in the Far Cry 1 remake you could turn into a monster with these huge claws you could kill enemies with, so we're a little bit more than half way lol I was joking but turning into animals would actually be a cool gimmick for the next game the more and more I think about it

[@kim98677]

@@maybetomorrownewmaker far cry predator was AMAZING one of the first fps games I ever played. And by god did I okay that again and again and again and again

[@hamburglr1]

@@kin-3877 far cry 5, new dawn, and 6 all have pets you can send to attack people.

[@frosty05101]

I can’t contain my excitement. This game is probably in my top 3 of all time, and I have never been able to find a good in-depth review. And now I get one from Whitelight?!?! Heaven on earth.

[@dishonoredundead]

Too many animals, not enough gyrocopter. Incredible game though. And the last Far Cry game that is challenging, even on its hardest difficulties.

[@Joeysaladslover]

@@dishonoredundead kiddo wants to talk about challenge and says not enough gyrocopter💀

[@TakarieZan]

I actually got super bored with it. Yet I went to play Far Cry 5 after watching WhiteLight. He has done amazing job of pointing out what makes these games amazing or even bad.

[@crimzonpegasus9714]

My favorite thing to do after completing the story mode is killing both Royal Army and Golden Path forces. Both leaders suck and the GP will be worse with either of them in charge. My headcanon is Ajay just wipes the slate clean and runs the country himself. Normally the game reduces XP from killing Golden Path members but if you're at max level it doesn't do anything. So I happily go after both sides

[@L9Wally]

thats what im saying lol, gonna enjoy this with a great cup of coffee

[@dahakaguardianofthetimelin4780]

It's incredible how both Far Cry 4 and Far Cry 5 have their best, ideal endings with the lowest killcount tied to Easter Eggs of not doing anything for a few minutes when prompted to do something

[@andreworders7305]

No, it’s just Ubisoft using the same idea over again. Nothing new there.

[@vantablack6288]

@@andreworders7305 something something definition of insanity

[@dirpyturtle69]

@@vantablack6288 that shit bothers me because it’s a terrible definition for insanity, if you a roll a dice and get a 3 would it be insane to role a dice again and expect a different number?

[@channel45853]

@@andreworders7305 so Ubisoft bad no matter what?

[@andreworders7305]

@@channel45853 no. If it’s not broke, don’t fix it. Nothing wrong with that. Innovation is nice but not always necessary.

[@PandoraKyss]

I think my favorite Pagan Min moment was when he railed against the horrendous amount of lit candles littering Kyrat and wondered out loud how, if he were such a monstrous dictator, he would even allow someone to light them all. He then bans candles entirely.

[@purwantiallan5089]

"Enjoy the Crab Rangoon". Still a golden sentence from Pagan Min even in 2024.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

"GARY GARY CANDLES ARE NOW ILLEGAL YES ILLEGAL PUNISHABLE BY UHH DEATH YES BY DEATH WELL GET TO IT thank you Ajay you have made my day"

[@alisunchained]

I think the "guilt" that the story assumed was present was due to the other ending, where you just wait at the table until Pagan gets back and avoid the Golden Path story altogether. If you knew that was an option and chose to side with the Golden Path, you did *choose* to put them in place. A lot of where the story falls flat, to me, seems like the story assumes knowledge on the part of the player that you could have avoided everything in the story-- the GP, the CIA, all of it-- but most players didn't randomly stay in the first room for the 13 minutes it takes for Pagan to come back.

[@BWMagus]

Well, or you could have done something else; taken over the GP, or pushed back against Amita or Sabal to a more level-headed solution. You mindlessly follow one or the other, no questions asked, until realizing that, oh shit, you've accomplished nothing.

[@purwantiallan5089]

How many levels are in Far Cry 4 btw,​@@BWMagus?

[@jesustyronechrist2330]

One thing that still blows my mind about Far Cry 4 is the bushes and trees. I remember being flabbergasted when I went to hide in a bush the first time in this game, the detail level was astonishing. But the trees man... How they blow around when you get close with the gyro copter, how the brances fold when you toss your quadbike down the cliff...

[@martinszymanski2607]

the review already kinda mentions this but this game is a testament as to how far good graphic design _alone_ can take you. i'll take this 7 year old game over pretty much anything ubisoft has made since, far cry 4 is positively dripping with style (and has the prettiest damn explosions i've seen in any game). god, i wish ubisoft stopped trying to make the most average AAA games ever and gave us more titles like this..

[@hawken796]

@@martinszymanski2607 It's funny because people said the same thing about far cry 4. A couple of years later, we will see a video on Far Cry 6 and how great it was and people would say the same thing.

[@martinszymanski2607]

@@hawken796 eh, doubt it. people said fc4 was uninspired and mediocre because compared to fc3, it undoubtedly was - they copied over animations, guns, the wingsuit, larger gameplay systems like outposts. the thing is, i've never _played_ fc3 and i don't intend to. i am happy having experienced what i believe to be its more polished successor. as for how fc6 fits into this, well.. people were already annoyed when ubisoft made a very similar sequel to fc3 back in late 2015, and ubi haven't exactly stopped doing that - and looking at the less detailed, buggier world, nearly the same (but grindier!) gameplay six years later, cookie-cutter story, RPG-esque mechanics and, of course, all the microtransactions fc6 has, i _really_ hope we're not gonna be looking back on it as some sort of hidden gem.

[@hawken796]

@@martinszymanski2607 Oh trust me we will. 2014 was a horrible year for Ubi as every game of theirs was controversial for something. People hated ac unity, called it the worst game ever made, people were disappointed in Watch Dogs and hated it, The Crew was hated for being a buggy mess, etc. Look at them now. All of them are fondly looked back on and some are even considered fan favourites now. Far Cry 6 is not a less detailed game by any means and switched up a lot of things in subtle ways, mainly overhauling exploration. The game is not buggy, maybe minor ones but nothing bad enough to be a detriment. Like it or not, it will be loved in a few years. FC5 was hated for not having the details 3 did and people called the story trash and everything, but look at it now. It's a lot of people's favourite.

[@jv-man3698]

@@martinszymanski2607 my question on that tho, is what do we want Ubisoft to do? Far cry has a certain identity compared to other FPS. What can change in 7, that would make it fresh but at the same time not make it a completely different game and keep it far cry?

[@hemangchauhan2864]

13:30 As a North Indian who grew up going to a lot of Himalayan hill stations, Far Cry 4's world is very well realized. Paintings and murals are abound (depending on the place), and art team did a brilliant job in creating this place. The Hindi dialogue on the other hand is mixed bag. Hearing Hindi cuss words is delightful, but regular dialogue is very very poorly written or delivered.

[@bipstymcbipste5641]

It's because I feel like the dialogue was written in English then translated to Hindi. It became very apparent during the Shangri-la stuff because I was listening to Kalinag and reading the subtitles to see why it sounded a little off. The sentence structure between languages is obviously different and that's not accounted for

[@hemangchauhan2864]

@@bipstymcbipste5641 Yeah agreed. Shangri-la was still better. Stuff in the main game needed some work.

[@abhisekraj2765]

You know what I hate about this game It’s in Nepal, with gorkhali soldiers but you Indians have to brainwash the world into thinking India is ubiquitously prevalent and Nepal is inexistent.

[@hemangchauhan2864]

@@abhisekraj2765 nah man, You're right. My bad really, I'm just excited for any representation of South Asian regions in games. Game is about Nepalese culture, and glad it got international spot.

[@abhisekraj2765]

@@hemangchauhan2864 You have my utmost respect

[@ceast5273]

Is it weird that I would actually prefer an alternate story or dlc where you side with Pegan Min, help him kill the Golden Path's leaders, and in the end take over for him as he leaves Kyrat? I hated both the Golden Path's leaders so much.

[@LloydTheZephyrian]

I think there's a special ending that you can get if you just listen to Pegan's request to stay at the table, where he just hands you the keys to the country after taking you straight to the place to set the urn down.

[@shepardvasnormandy]

Imagine if the story and campaign was fleshed out to play like a Fallout game with multiple threads and story altering choices to go ham with, enough to have several unique playthroughs. Kirat and its story has a ton of untapped potential. It's just sad that Ubisoft is the way it is.

[@justforrow]

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to do the entire time. Pegan honestly seemed like a chill dude, while those 2 "leaders" were assholes. Helping Pegan (at least for me), would be what I consider doing the morality "right" thing.

[@uckbritley1305]

@@justforrow Keep in mind we're seeing it from Ajays perspective who Pagan Min is clearly very biased and favourful towards. All 3 were by modern standards asshole psycho authoritarians. Pagan wasn't really a good guy, however since the other 2 assholes betrayed Ajay after jerking him around the whole game and painting themselves as uber-good leaders, they come off as worse compared to Pagan who actually genuinely seems to like Ajay quite a bit. Also a bit of a weird take, but I think the fact that Pagan Min clearly has some sort of violent mental issues (psychosis or BPD maybe?? I'm not a psychologist) and emotional trauma might make his horrible actions SLIGHTLY more understandable generally at least on an empathetic level, compared to the other two who seem to be mostly sane despite committing even more "psychotic" acts of violence than Min did.

[@justforrow]

@@uckbritley1305 I wasn't really arguing whether or not Pagan was "good" by any means (which we all know that he's not as you have so eloquently stated in your argument, which I thank you for), but I was simply stating that compared to the other 2 "options" which the game forces us to choose he is definetly the lesser evil and would have made for a much better single choice. (Morally, anyways). In other words, while Pagan may be a monster (I wasn't really denying that), if he's a monster, then Amita and Sabal (the 2 other leaders) are definetly the demons. Would you rather choose the monster or the demon? (Assuming you didn't have another choice, which in the game, you don't). Pagan may not be perfect (nobody except God is) but compared to the other 2 "options" that the game gives us, he's definetly *better.* (Again, when speaking from a moral standpoint).

[@brutpenta]

I felt bad for killing Pagan in my first playthrough, so I played THROUGH THE ENTIRE GAME again just to spare him, then I went to Tirtha and popped a cap in Amita's head for (presumably) killing Bhadra.

[@davidbennettracing538]

I sided with Armita. Killed dePluer and Sabal, let Noore kill herself. I let Pagan show me to the shrine, then I shot down his helicopter as he tried to fly away. Then I killed Armita at the end. Now I am in control of the country, and there is no one left to stop me… 😈👍🏻

[@purwantiallan5089]

I picked up Endings 1 and 3 in FAR CRY 4, especially the infamous third ending, where Pagan Min and Ajay Ghale walking together after eating Crab Rangoon.

[@sessionbox4256]

She killed bhadra? I had no idea... I've played through honestly about 6 times

[@darkowl9]

@@sessionbox4256 It's heavily implied. Both the Golden Path endings are terrible. I echo the other sentiments about how I wish I could have gone around Kyrat having fun with Pagan Min instead.

[@simonfriedli7799]

There is some context to the grindy leveling in the Arena: This game came out during the year where every game just had to have a companion app where you could directly contribute to your progress in the main game. The companion app to FC4 was about managing a team of arena fighters and your level progress in the app would be transferred into the main game. It's also why the arena level is tied to your Ubisoft account and saved across different playthroughs. Just like with AC Unity however, the companion app is no longer supported so nowadays you only have the choice to grind it up in the main game.

[@haroeneissa790]

I never liked those companion apps. I remember that gta 5 had one where you could train the dog or something like that, but it is kind of pointless because you never really use the dog outside of the main missions and the main missions are 95% scripted so even that wouldn't make a difference.

[@CruelestChris]

@@haroeneissa790 As I recall they also locked custom numberplates behind that app.

[@BWMagus]

The Arena was also fairly poorly made; the game's mechanics just weren't made for this sort of combat style. It's not DOOM.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@BWMagusreminds me a lot to God Hand.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

​@@haroeneissa790only reason for the chop app was for collectibles but if one has the Internet connection for an app they usually can just search up the collectibles

[@thewanderingartists]

I loved the secret ending though, literally the game ends in like 15 mins or less 🤣

[@michiganjack1337]

I would’ve loved to actually play that version of the game

[@thewanderingartists]

@@michiganjack1337 ikr ? Going side by side with Pagan Min ? A whole new story for those who were patient enough? That would have been a banger for far cry 4

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

Not much of a secret, if probably every Far Cry fan knows about it.

[@juanmendez3290]

@@Flamme-Sanabi to be fair it was kind of secret back then, and even if you knew it existed, most people fucked it up by trying to actively get back to the chair.

[@sejol3081]

@@Flamme-Sanabi in 2014 it was new, not a lot of games gave you the choice to just not shoot the bad dude or straight up walk away from everything in an action game like this, especially after you were forced to shoot Vaas in 3

[@Spoggi99YT]

2 hours of Whitelight-Goodness? Didn’t think my Sunday could get any better. Time to get my popcorn! Thanks for your awesome content :)

[@Phycorax]

I still remember how you were wrong about Insurgency Sandstorm Checkpoint vs Push UI. I will always remember.

[@nathanduke4829]

I really think Pegan Min is a very underrated villain. He very unique then Vaas. Unlike how Vaas is like a crazy pirate trying to stop his sister. Min is a villain who is actually hard to tell if he really is a villain at all. He respectable but also scary. And he and the other characters you meet are part of the big theme of choosing the lesser evil.

[@lonedrifter9879]

to be fair, he deserved to be underrated because like the jackal he's not even a villain compared to Vaas who's just crazy.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Pagan Min is basically very kind towards Ajay Ghale too.

[@Jacket50Blessings]

⁠@@lonedrifter9879what the heck does ”deserved to be underrated” even mean?? underrated means that something isnt as highly rated as it should be. Youre saying Pegan shouldnt be appreciated.

[@lonedrifter9879]

@@Jacket50Blessings is he a villain? No. He isn't even an antagonist, his commanders were

[@TheHalogen131]

52:18 this is one of the quotes like "dummy thicc moon", "breathe the air, can you feel that? that's lung cancer", or "what if Twitter was a place?", that cement your channel as one of my favourites. Fantastic wordplay.

[@amcname8789]

The man is a semantics genius, no doubt. I need to take some notes, lol.

[@CDexie]

god, I just can't remember from which video that line "breathe the air, can you feel that? that's lung cancer" is

[@amcname8789]

@@CDexie I'm pretty sure it's the AC: Syndicate review.

[@SessesSniper]

The OST in this game played a HUGE role for my personal enjoyment. That's also the reason as why I actually enjoyed Regi and Yogi's missions so much. I wasn't seeing them as side content with blurry screen. This was the game's way of telling me to take a break from the tensions and that sometimes it's good to take things not to seriously (kind of to the image of Regi and Yogi themselves or even Longinus)

[@purwantiallan5089]

I still enjoyed listening these FC4 OSTs till this day.

[@Xaxp]

I noticed a lot of people don't understand why Ajay doesn't really change over the course of the game. The best I can remember from the game's lore is that its stated somewhere Ajay used to be in the U.S. Army while he lived in the States, which would explain some things about why he's so immediately ready to kill.

[@berto17]

well shit, that shouldve been made more obvious. in fact, ajay shouldve been more of a character altogether, if he was more vocal like jason rather than pretty much a silent protagonist, i think it would have benefitted the story. this is why i love the moment where you go back to yogi & reggie after noore, because he's actually emoting for once.

[@Vladimirwlr1234]

@@berto17 Ajay was made less vocal BECAUSE a lot of people complained about Jason talking too much. They went way overboard with it, though.

[@RandomElk58]

⁠@@Vladimirwlr1234 I really don’t understand why people are so critical of realistic protagonists that actually express themselves. I guarantee if Jason wasn’t as expressive as he was, FC3’s story would be way less meaningful. Silent protagonists really aren’t as cool as people make them out to be.

[@truecaliber1995]

@@RandomElk58 I felt the same way about a mute protagonist from another franchise: the Metro series' Artyom, an unnaturally silent character at the most awkward of times. I've heard some fans state that his silence adds to the immersion, but I disagree. He speaks so much in the journal-entry loading screens; the man clearly has a lot on his mind. They additionally establish Artyom's agency as a character. He has fears, doubts, desires, and motivations separate from the audience but also deeply relatable. He's not just a player-controlled character. He's Artyom. So, it's a bit awkward then, that he never speaks, even when he's being addressed by someone personal to his life, like Anna, his eventual wife. Oh, yes, she says plenty to her radiation-filled husband in Metro Exodus. Not Artyom, though, who acts like a passive observer in their relationship. Anna might ask Artyom why he's so hellbent on contacting fellow survivors outside of Moscow, and he'll reply with dead air. It's completely contradictory to how expressive Artyom is in his journal --- immersion-breaking, as well --- and not one character addresses his silence. They just talk as if he's contributing to the conversation, creating a disconnect between him and his supposed relationships. The Two Colonels story DLC rectifies this problem, giving us a fully-voiced protagonist to take control of. So, maybe, there's hope for the sequel's narrative, but I digress. I get wanting a shell to inhabit, a self-insert of sorts in a story with the right context. Bioshock, for instance, quite literally has a blank slate for a protagonist, so it works. Jack has no motivations of his own other than following orders from others. Not to mention his lack of agency ties into the narrative itself. Yet, it doesn't work in a story with a complex protagonist, personality-wise, or, at the very least, one with clearly defined agency.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@truecaliber1995Artyom?

[@nanos4358]

I honestly would have loved a DLC or a Mod where u just play the game from the perspective of an Ajay who stayed when Pagan told him to. When Pagan comes and tells Ajay to join him to shoot guns the game should have thrown us into the North just shooting small groups of rebels and then when we proceed it should throw us into the south with stronger rebels to fight. Instead of having Sabal and Anita as our allies we get Paul and Yuma. Instead of storming the palace we burn down the rebels hometown. Kyrat is a playground with animals Pagan imported and with mountains keeping everything inside why not have fun in the playground Pagan gifts us instead of fighting for a lossing cause we dont even care for?

[@LogisticPeach]

I don’t think Ajay would like to shoot rebels who are fighting against objectively horrible people in the Royal Army. He just saw the army shoot at innocent bus passengers and almost got killed by them.

[@nanos4358]

@@LogisticPeach The rebels are also objectvily bad people. Also Ajay is literally the King Pagan says so in the ending. He could have changed Kyrat to his liking

[@LogisticPeach]

@@nanos4358 The difference is that Anita and Saban get power hungry, the soldiers stay the same at wanting a democracy. Maybe AJ can keep it Al stable.

[@JuliaJvn_6]

@@LogisticPeachBro, to be fair, they did have rebels inside.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Paul and Yuma are better than Sabal and Anita and by a lot.

[@MorioRexPage]

I put so much time into that game just running around and doing random shit. I remember trying to get every boat up the farthest river or something along those lines. There would always be glitches and some would force me to restart the run but that was part of the fun.

[@andytoskovic]

I’m a little surprised that you didn’t once mention the final boss fight with Rakshasa in the last Shangri-La mission, as it was a pretty awesome and challenging fight, at least on the highest difficulty.

[@rarox0945]

As an Indian, I could actually understand the jibrish of the FC 4 soldiers. They spoke hindi and most of the time they were saying average hindi profanities so you didn't miss much. But it was cool cause they all had the accents right, and it didn't feel like some woke inclusiveness. FC 4 was an artistic masterpiece imo.

[@whe832kso10]

As an Urdu speaker, I could also understand some stuff, so it really was fun.

[@StoneAgeProductions143]

That’s awesome! Could you tell me what the script on the screen says at 2:02:02? I’ve always wondered

[@rarox0945]

​@@StoneAgeProductions143 It says "Namaste" which is a greeting.

[@danieldeath-j7u]

agreed dude , the game did justice , I love north east India.

[@Hamentsios10]

My favorite is "Kute Kamine" which I was told means something like die dog or something

[@muro158]

honestly i always thought bhadra was sent abroad to live a more “human” life than the people in kyrat, cause amita practically considered them worms. Come to think of it i don’t know what ubi really meant by that ending.

[@yagnenttv]

She just sent her off to get murdered and dumped somewhere, so the more "traditional" people could not flock behind her

[@Xahn777]

she ded. Amita didn't want her being used as a symbol to overthrow her the way she used bhadra to overthrow Min

[@martinszymanski2607]

yeahhh, i never interpreted it as amita killing bhadra either. i mean, i get whitelight's point with there being a big jump morally - but come on, amita killing the only person she really cares about for the sake of Progress™️? i don't buy it dude

[@yagnenttv]

@@martinszymanski2607 I mean Sabal always said that Amita was ready to sacrifice anybody if she saw it benefetting Kyrat. Sabal is a lot of things but liar he is not.

[@BWMagus]

@@martinszymanski2607 I dunno, she's clearly as psychotic and single-minded as Pagan, and likewise HATES the local culture. Bhadra would forever be a threat. She's enslaving children at the end, if you side with her, so why not kill this girl?

[@commie_vick]

I still vividly remeber Far Cry 4 intro as one of those intros, which actually pumped me up to play it fully and have some chaotic fun. Only other few games which managed to do that, are Just Cause 3, Mercenaries 2 & Metal Gear Solid V. Damn I have an urge to replay them all now after watching this

[@Ryattt81]

Literally playing Just Cause 3 today...my favorite game for mindless destructive fun.

[@commie_vick]

@@Ryattt81 Indeed. Shame that we couldn't get another game like Mercenaries 2 though

[@davidstinger1134]

@@commie_vick Blame EA for killing Pandemic Studios, they were making Mercenaries 3, there's even a video showing a preliminary demo on KZbin.

[@Somemetalguy-mm3su]

I am very upset that you didn't just stay and enjoy the crab Rangoon

[@purwantiallan5089]

Crab Rangoon is such a very tasty Indian food.

[@notfatima37]

i still play this game often. it’s become comforting. the atmosphere is beautiful and i played it a lot when it first came out, when i was younger, so it brings me lots of nostalgia. it’s unfortunate that multiplayer is so dead now, but i still enjoy myself finding all of the unknown locations, re-liberating outposts, and honestly just sightseeing in the game. im glad it’s not forgotten. great video :)

[@lukeyear5148]

I feel the same. As troubled as it is, Kyrat's hermit kingdom makes me feel like I escaped for a moment, it is just me and the mountains, this game is really good at entertaining the want for escapism buried within us all. And 2014 was also a slightly simpler time indeed.

[@TigerChamp99]

"Defeated by a fucking title card" -Whitelight

[@misterkefir]

fun

[@theLuckyMonkey54]

I think somewhere there was someone saying that in the far cry games dorect eye contact is a strong motif about the games. That the characters that spent alot of time staring at you are judging you and watching you for any weakness or sign of betrayal. But Pagan even says that your eyes like you mothers and spends a lot of time just pacing around you trying to get you to understand how he feels. Makes me think about my day to day life a lot.

[@AC-hj9tv]

Whoa

[@MattR8605]

I just can't be bothered to listen to Sabal and Amita again to ever replay this. They grated on me so much during the game and then seeing their tyrannical behavior after dealing with Pagan was the final straw

[@Brascofarian]

YES! The game just forces you to ally with these really unlikable characters, and all the time I was thinking, "if I have to ally with an unlikable character, I'd rather ally with Pagan Min because at least he had some charisma."

[@arthurg.calixto3338]

Theres ways to kill both of them, or atleast just Amita, after you finish the game. I remember doing that immediately after being done with it, felt really good to see that bitch burn by my molotov 😁

[@BWMagus]

That, and the drug trips, are the things that keep me from playing this game more. It's not even how bad they are; it's that Ajay doesn't respond like a person should, like I would--he makes no arguments, asks almost no questions, just goes along with it. Jason did this too but he was desperate for help and completely out of his depth, and going through his arc; Ajay is just a plank of wood. Like, hey Sabal, why don't YOU go with some men to reinforce the outpost while I go investigate the one that was attacked? No, can't even bring that idea up.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Funny how some people turn into monsters after they get what they want.

[@ibelieveingaming3562]

At least you get to kill them both. After the final tyrannical cutscenes you are free to kill whoever you sided with. I lit Amita on fire and tossed her body down a convenient waterfall! 😀

[@CaveyMoth]

I love the gyrocopter! Using the grenade launcher while flying turns it into an attack chopper. 16:35 Aw, Longinus' missions were one of the most memorable parts for me. Far Cry 2 is one of my favorite games ever, so finding out that he was from Far Cry 2 was amazing. And the cutscenes with him look amazing in general.

[@qpwoeiruty850]

I would spawn by the gyrocopter no matter where I needed to go. It was easier than constantly fighting spawned groups. This was late game and I just got tired of shooting spawns.

[@captaintre44]

What I love about pagan dlc in FC6 is ajay canonically kills the leader of the golden path. We don’t know who he picked to lead but he does kill them and runs kyrat himself. He also becomes another pagan.

[@syolins2579]

Where does it say this?

[@laramieslater9433]

@@syolins2579 like in the beginning of farcry6 2nd dlc as soon as you go in pagan starts talking to ajay about some nukes he store away and said to launch them at Montana which is the location in farcry5 which makes no sense because farcry6 apparently everything is a ok

[@zsarion]

@@syolins2579 the secret ending of pagans dlc has a message he left ajay. Basically an easter egg for Kyrat being responsible for the nukes sent to Hope County in FC5s ending

[@ShootingStar1313]

8 years later, I find out that I didn't see the complete ending! I figured that the reveal about Lakshmana being a person and not a place along with letting Pagan Min live was the ending itself and quit afterwards, never learning of the Golden Path's descent afterwards.

[@aaroncohen2700]

I did think the opening is strange but I couldn't place my finger on it. When you talked about it then it was clear. When Pagin Min calls to express his confusion on why Ajay left it hit me. Why did you leave? Even without Ajay knowing about Pagan Min's regime it honestly feels a bit ridiculous to run away from the most powerful man in a dangerous country that you experienced first hand. The secret ending isn't just a funny Easter Egg it's also the most logical and natural choice for anyone to make.

[@smartalec2001]

I guess the first impression of the violence at the bus, Pagain stabbing a guy with his pen, and then the guy helping Ajay being carried off to be tortured, wasn't a great one.

[@skookathing]

I honestly adore 4 and is my favorite out of the series. The environments and the atmosphere peaked with it, and the gameplay was more of a way to improve the formula than to lazily rehash it

[@high.level.noob.]

I love this type of content. Trying to understand art is hard. But sometimes we just play a game that is more than the sum of its parts and we never truly move away from it. It stays with us and gets us coming back.

[@midshipman8654]

always like listening to your thoughts. you present them in a kinda lucid dry entertainment sort of way that strikes a good balance between more visceral “flavor” of an experience and being informative. I can really appreciate that its not just about the points, but how you get to those points and how you choose to frame and express them. and it always sounds like you are having fun with it. then you do a good job at connecting those things into a larger apreciation/critique without it feeling like you are trying to fit square pesg into round holes. its always really engaging.

[@JuliusCaesar103]

I think it's a pretty telling testament of your skill as a video creator and writer that I play less than 10% of the games you make videos on yet I still watch every one of your videos. Great job!

[@X-SPONGED]

I personally would've loved a DLC or an entirely new spin-off based on Kyrat called "Far Cry 4 - The King's Way". It basically has the same intro as Far Cry 4 but the difference is, you actually enjoyed the crab rangoon and joined Pagan instead of helping the golden path. You place your mother's ashes at the top of the shrine and you basically become The Prince of Kyrat with Pagan. I don't know how that would go out in terms of gameplay but the idea of it just sounds rad.

[@nlrenzo9432]

8 years later still a great game. One of, if not my fav game in the franchise.

[@Szanth]

Definitely my favorite. The second one I played, and the last one I enjoyed.

[@nonyabizz3533]

I hated it. FC3 was the best.

[@channel45853]

@@nonyabizz3533 I loved it. FC3 was the worst.

[@nonyabizz3533]

@@channel45853 just shows how everyone is different.

[@channel45853]

@@nonyabizz3533 I'm just memeing on you

[@vBUMPERv]

The only good ending in this game is when you actually wait for Pagan Min at the beginning. Well, that and just listening to him at the end. But the Golden Path are terrorists more than they are rebels and it doesn't matter who you side with because both endings are pretty damn bleak.

[@ExternalCrib]

Let’s goooo new whitelight just dropped

[@lancestein3692]

Farcry 4 was a very big part of my teenage years. My dad didn’t let me have 3 when it came out because it was too violent and I was 12. But when 4 came out he finally let me and I loved every second of it. I played it for days.

[@colonelcrockett2250]

God I loved Pagan Min. Most eccentric, chaotic, and interesting Far Cry villain ever.

[@talkaboutnowt6644]

What you said at the end about trying to find something rational to justify your love for a game really resonates with me. A lot of my favorite games aren't what many would describe as masterpieces and In the past i have struggled to handle criticism of them sometimes However what this video taught me, is that your favorite games don't need to be a masterpiece Maybe they just have one defining moment that cements them as a part of you forever In your case, it was standing beside Pagan surrounded by the beautiful world of Kyrat and parting with those ashes that enabled so much death and destruction But it can be anything, its not always about the content or quality of the scene but instead what it means to you So thank you, for helping me realize that the quality isn't everything. What You draw from it matters just as much if not more

[@Ryattt81]

I think we all like games for different reasons. If the gameplay loop, and asthetic makes your gamer brain happy then thats all that matters.

[@channel45853]

all the "masterpieces" gamers talk about are also heavily flawed too, an example being Fallout: New Vegas, maybe you should listen to others critique of games you like but be sure to choose people who will be fair to the game, and you can tell that by the thumbnail, Luke Stevens, I think his name is, makes some pretty fair critique videos, you should check him out

[@channel45853]

@@Ryattt81 true, we may need critique but others act like objective problems means that a game should be hated, even if the games they like have objective problems that they can ignore

[@thatonehumanoid7756]

Haven’t watched any of the video yet, but I remember my most enduring memory of FC4 was being disappointed that if at the end you accepted being the king you couldn’t then re-clear all the outposts to stop the obviously evil at this point rebels. I feel like it would have required fairly little effort to implement, just like, a few lines of dialogue and maybe a few extra troops per outpost to make it harder. It was silly being the king and no one else really caring.

[@martydratsoc9695]

Would be curious about your opinion on Far Cry 2! Many (justified) criticism but it still is my favorite because of the very realistic mindset of the main antagonist (and probably because it was one of my introduction to video games). Thanks for all your work!

[@quinnmarchese6313]

theres an absolutely brilliant essay on Far Cry 2 from Face Full of Eyes, its a bit more of a book report (its mostly specifically about how its themes are reinforced through the graphics and gameplay) but its the best video on 2 ive seen ever

[@Largentina.]

@@quinnmarchese6313 Someone else knows about Face Full Of Eyes?! I love his channel. His videos are an editor's dream.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

@@Largentina. his aesthetics of fc2 video just randomly appeared on my feed not long after it came out, it blew me away--well edited, and amazingly written and vocalized, especially considering the guy isnt a native english speaker. i get very excited everytime i see he has a new video

[@quinnmarchese6313]

@@Largentina. so happy that there are others who have discovered them, i think i was early enough to be like his 90th sub, and now hes at 50k

[@ryanelliott71698]

I’m more on the “FC2 is overhyped camp.”

[@hirak47mukherjee]

To be Honest... I wanted FarCry4 to have separate beginnings and not separate endings... For those who don't get my statement... At the beginning of the game if you don't wait for Pagan to come back and leave pleur's compound, you join the Golden Path and end Pagan's regime but ... BUT if you "Don't move" and "enjoy the Crab Rangoon", Pagan comes back and takes you to Lakshmana and says maybe they could now shoot some guns... From here I hope the game had a whole different quest line... Kyrat is totally overrun by the Golden Path (where Amita and Sabal are tightly bonded) and you have to liberate it from the Golden Path's vile clutches alongside Pagan... How would that be🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@cj3ogrady]

@whitelight one thing I love about your videos is they make me want to play the game again, the highlights and the life you bring to your work shines.

[@serdiavalos4878]

The original soundtrack of this game is just majestic and sadly, unappreciated because most of them, like watch dogs, are not released on the official soundtrack.

[@daniyalshakeel7897]

ive been waiting for this for soooooooooooooooooooo long. its my favorite far cry game

[@glitchgaming1134]

Paul doesn't die. You can find him in a cage in banapur, guarded with his hands tied behind his back.

[@benni1015]

I remember playing Far Cry 4 directly after i finished Far Cry 3. I especially loved 3 for the great story and the really great missions. Together with the great open world it was just an addicting mix. So i was really excited to see even more of this in a setting which i liked much more than tropical islands aaand on my first playthrough i was incredibly disappointed. I disliked many of the story missions was annoyed by Amita and Sabal and while the open world was still fun to navigate, it felt all like the same to me. I got through the game but it was all in all not a great experience. However, i replayed the game a year or 2 after and suddenly, i appreciated everything in it much more. Many of the small improvements to the overall gameplay were much more noticable and made clearing outposts and castles a lot more enjoyable than in Far Cry 3. I still dislike Amita and Sabal(i wish i could fight with Pagan against them) and think the story is not really reaching Far Cry 3 but i have to admit that it has its moments. For me personally if you look at the game from the perspective of someone who just played Far Cry 3, i believe you will be disappointed, but as a standalone game its pretty good.

[@movement2contact]

Is it good idea to play 4 then 3..? 🤔 I haven't played any of them yet... 😌

[@itscutaru]

@@movement2contact it'd be the same effect considering their main core elements are the same. So it's not really about which order you play them in, just your ability to look at them Independent of each other.

[@benni1015]

@@movement2contact I would start with 3. I prefer the overall experience really and as i said, the story is just better and more rounded.

[@movement2contact]

@@benni1015 Thanks, guys ✌🏻👴🏻

[@nonyabizz3533]

Far cry 3 is one of the best games I ever played. I couldn't get into 4 or any other far cry.

[@julianlang7470]

Sweet, this rescues my day! 2hrs of Whitelight is exactly what the doctor told me.

[@jrawson540]

Babe wake up Whitelight posted

[@BlazerPandaI]

Yeah fr I struggled to fly out of bed it’s been so long

[@afsces]

Not long ago I noticed I had this game purchased, so I downloaded it to try it out. Loaded in to a fully completed game file. Turns out I played the whole game and don't remember a second of it.

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

Far Cry 4 is one of my favorite games of all time and my favorite Far Cry game. Thank you so much for this AWESOME in-depth video about it from every detail in and out. It reminded me how fun and under appreciated it is and made me redownload it to prove Pagan Min wrong once again.❤️

[@arandomcommenter8395]

Glad to see someone talk about the forgotten sibling of the series

[@truegamer_007]

My favourite Far Cry game, for a single reason: the enemies swear at you in Hindi. I lost it when I heard that for the first time. Only game I've ever seen this 🤣🤣

[@YelrocVideos]

I'm surprised you didn't comment on what happens if you don't leave the table at the beginning of the game. It takes a bit, like 5 to 15 minutes of waiting but I think it's worth seeing.

[@Siptom369]

There are so many games that are only now getting the recognition they deserved

[@tk-morrow6216]

Farcry 6 is quickly becoming one of my favorites in this series. As my official first Farcry game, I have much love for Farcry 4 and always will. It will always hold a special place for me.

[@Shamon97]

One thing that nobody mentions about this game, it's how it has one of the best "plot twists" of the entire videogame story, capable only in a videogame and in no other medium, book, comic, film or what else. Basically for the entire main story you think, and everybody tells you, that Pagan Min is the bad guy, BUT if you do every single secondary thing in the game, including all the collectibles, you'll understand (the game doesn't tell it, you'll understand YOURSELF) that he's basically the good guy and the whole Khyrat is a shitty place with shitty people. That's why through the whole game he threats you so well, and at the end of the game he gives you everything he has and goes away

[@brotato1538]

Actually it was Ajay Ghale's father who literally murdered Lakshmana out of jealousy and brainwashed the people of Kyrat into thinking that Pagan Min was the bad guy, I was really surprised after I found that out and that bitch Amita is a fokin scumbag.

[@BWMagus]

Uh, no, he is ALSO a bad guy. Everyone is a bad guy. Kyrat is stuck between backwards culture and upside-down modernity--no one is trying to lead the country into a good, stable, healthy future, it's all warlords vying for power.

[@Wedtrash]

It's really cool how if you wait for pagan to get back at the beginning of the game, you get the Canon ending. Where, pagan and you team up.

[@RubenTavernier]

50:49 "10 feet? Nah, a meter [=Amita] would do." You had me laughing!

[@RubenTavernier]

1:02:01 "and Noor is no more." !? Man, you're on a roll! :-)

[@castin5244]

1:19:44 Actually all of North American, every country in South America (besides Argentina), Spain, the Philippines, South Korea, Japan, and a few countries in Africa use the term "Gasoline"

[@Featinwe]

I have two thoughts about Far Cry 4 from a peculiar perspective. 1) this was my FIRST Far Cry game... so I was not aware of any repetitiveness lack of creativity and... it blew my mind... I agree with many of your points of the story and gameplay, the good ones and bad ones. But overall it was hell of a ride! 2) I've been to Nepal both low-lands and mountains - the design and atmosphere of Far Cry 4 was amazingly close to what I witnessed there IRL... well, maybe except honey badgers and tigers attacking me everywhere xD but the cultural representation was splendid and I saw a rhino in the wilderness up close! If you loved Far Cry 4 you HAVE TO visit Nepal... the impression will be... uncanny.

[@Someone-lg6di]

First far cry also, ironically i missed the last rakashaw side missions so i missed the bad ending

[@namae6637]

I wanted to join Pagan the first time I played. He was interesting and I wanted to see where a story would go with him at the helm. As someone from a former colony, I could empathise with the Golden Path’s cause, but I didn’t feel connected with the leadership. I felt like at least Pagan had an interesting story to tell.

[@Jgt612]

Recently I finished Far Cry 4, I’d played it many times but never finished it. Pagan absolutely carries the games best moments without a doubt

[@declanmillar6356]

The first time I played Far Cry 4 and went to do Norr's Temple, I fell down the hole in the cliffs by mistake while scouting a way in. I was confident I was going to die, button mashing in a panic as I was trying to deploy the parachute without the prompt present I ended up surviving when I accidentally performed a death from above take down on a guard I didn't see walking below. The animation cancelling the fall, and giving the ultimate power fantasy as I proceeded to march my way through the base, rushing the enemies with a simple Bow and Knives. Not captured with stealth, but with bravado and primitive performance.

[@michaelwilson8461]

You know a critique is well thought out and delivered , when it makes you want to fire up a game and play it. Even knowing that you have tried the game on many occasions over the years, and not once have you been able to force yourself to actually play it for any length of time , let alone finish it lol. This was the first FC game that fell flat with me. I can't even really point to anything and say "that's the problem". I do remember being largely disappointed with the crafting. It felt like I had crafted everything before even really starting the game. I did like the bad guy though. I've got multiple play throughs on every main line title in this franchise except this one and 6. I did actually finish 6 though.

[@AardvarkPaysOff]

The only collectable in an open world game I actively looked for out of interest was the Di Ravello tapes in JC3, I have no idea why I found them so interesting. This video was amazing and an excellent contrast of what made Far Cry 4 great to many showing that despite its flaws sometimes games have another layer to peel back and think about. Thank you

[@spbfce]

1:12:08 "If ubisoft keeps abusing women, they will never get to see it themselves." That was unexpected.

[@TBombz]

Everyone's opinion of Far Cry 4 in 2014: Booo literally just a FC3 clone. Nothing's different. Wow Ubisoft what a lazy entry, lucky if we don't boycott you. Everybody in 2023: Can I legally marry this game?

[@jv-man3698]

That’s cause the gaming community is never happy. Sequels are either too similar, or they’re too different. I enjoy the game as it is without trying to compare it with the others. But I also wait a long time after release to play most games, usually when they go on sale. So by that time, everything feels fresh again.

[@js-ro5jk]

This game was visually amazing when i played it in 2014, and it still looks just as good as i remember

[@Hamentsios10]

I don't understand how someone can be so critical of the outpost in fc3&4. There the highlight of the gameplay. Taking the stealthy route and using takedowns smartly is insanely fun.

[@kakhakheviashvili6365]

I think Amita and Sabal going full evil is very expectable and realistic. The main issue of both of them is inability to accept difference of opinion, no matter how disgusting and unacceptable they might view opposite opinion. Intolerance to words and intentions lead both to unchallenged idealism, where every mean is justified by the end. They always fought each other, but only challenged by each others presence - they were able to constraint their own dark side. And then comes Ajay, one who breaks the balance, who makes possible to one side to vanish, turns one of two obsolite. Without Ajay if they survived, they would have to find compromise, form scoffed, primitive, but democracy, some semblance of choice and liberty. They are each others leash, which we remove. It shows that power corrupts, and if Ajay allows himself to become pawn (granted, the most powerful pawn ever) King or Queen will go crazy. Because we, as Ajay, become unrestrained their power, that makes even wildest of their dreams entirely possible. I think it's very good and old school liberal idea of acceptance of what you think of horrible and unacceptable. You may think of someone as religious bigoted zealot, or heartless drug addict, but in the end, if in your ideal world there are only people like you, there's almost 100% chance that said ideal world will turn into hell real fast. Sadly nowadays games push idea of only 1 side being good and you HAVE to support that good side, whatever it might be. Without thinking, that even what you think of as ultimate good, may turn evil very fast. You can sympathize with both in the beginning. Sabal is a strong warrior, who follows strict traditional codes and wants to keep his country's identity intact. He wants a strong honorable nation with defined moral code (though extremes of it are also very bad, but he doesn't have the time to think about it, because he's in constant state of war). Amita also has good ideas of restricting bad sides of traditional views Sabal chases. She also sees necessity of practical modern things. She thinks more about weak and unprivileged, ones who can't be useful in war, who can't follow traditional code, but she's very willing to go very far just for her ideas to be realized, and she also doesn't have much time to think about her ideology's downside, because there are so many wounded, widows and orphans to tend to. Amita needs a bit of code and honor in her life, and that's Sabal, Sabal needs more empathy for the weak and different, and that's Amita. One thing they absolutely don't need (in order to build a proper society) - is Ajay.

[@the_bottomfragger]

Great video, I have little to add except I love the Himalaya missions just for the setting and feel of it. Also, it's a shame you didn't highlight the amazing soundtrack by Cliff Martinez. I absolutely adore his work, he did the incredible soundtrack for Drive (2011) as well.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

But you mentioned him, & I'm so thankful you did! I was unfamiliar with his name so I searched based on your comment & I'm about to listen to SO MUCH of his stuff; it all looks interesting, & once I saw his projects I realized I've heard + liked some before. Thanks for mentioning him & properly introducing me. I'm not able to game but I love long-form gaming content esp analysis essays that really delve deep into all aspects, & some play-thrus, & game OSTs are an essential aspect of the artform. Shangri-La's statue heads looked wild when WL showed it, I need to look up a run of that part & hear the music in the setting too. Thanks again!

[@PandoraKyss]

Far Cry 4 was the first in the franchise that I'd played. I was an admin of a gaming group back when Far Cry 3 was released and I remember seeing Vaas EVERYWHERE, but I assumed it would be another Call of Duty type game. I'd never played a modern FPS and preferred open world games, particularly Assassin's Creed and Sleeping Dogs at the time. Some years later, when I learned that Uncharted - Lost Legacy would be set in India, a place I'd always felt drawn to but knew nothing about, I thought I'd see if there were any other games set in that part of the world while I researched and learned about it. By this point I'd finally played a first person shooter, Homefront - The Revolution, solely for being set in my hometown of Philadelphia. I kept seeing people say it was like an 'urban Far Cry,' so I felt prepared to try Far Cry 4. I know Kyrat is essentially a hodgepodge of India, Nepal, Bhutan, and Tibet, but the game lined up in the environment and setting, and of course the damned great soundtrack. After beating it, I remembered that Far Cry 3 existed and gave it a whirl. You could tell it was an older game, but damned if it didn't tick the right tralala boxes for me. But then Far Cry 5 was announced as being set in Montana. I was optimistic and yes, it's a beautiful game, but the world felt so bland to me after the garish settings of the previous games. Just... trees, open fields, mountains, gorgeous loading screens that didn't exist in the game, and the hateful ending that made it all feel worthless. I know, I know, the previous games absolutely made it all seem like violence for no reason, but I was actually salty about the ending to Far Cry 5. Both of them. So, along comes Far Cry 6, returning to the tropical roots, and it might be an unpopular opinion, but Far Cry 6's Chad Biome Variety > Far Cry 5's Virgin Montana Wilderness. Yeah, the story was a bit disjointed, but I felt like it was a step above the highly unbelievable 'cult takes over entire county' bit. That novel all being said, Kyrat will always hold a special place for me. And I still think Amita was meant to be Lakshmana all grown up.

[@tristankelley8526]

i’ve been on youtube for my whole life and i’ve never seen someone integrate and ad into a video that well. subscribing for that reason alone. i understand ad’s but it can be overwhelming when they interrupt the video, this was clever, funny, and short to the point. props to you for the most creative ad video-integration i’ve ever seen.

[@matthewmcshane399]

I love all of the far cry games. 6 and new dawn included.

[@mor3gan285]

The critique of the ending where Whitelight says that we had no choice to be a psycho is my exact problem with spec ops the line. People laud it for showing how bad or evil gamers are, but it's not like you can put your gun down in either game. There aren't consequences to your choices other than a line of dialogue

[@The_G_Edits]

It's been years and people are still seething about spec ops the line

[@purwantiallan5089]

I still remembered a lot about the iconic easter egg in FAR CRY 4 where, the player instead of helping those two characters, the player along with Pagan Min, went into the church and in turn, sending the player into Kyrat.

[@HopeforallinGod]

I love far cry 6, it was my first far cry game and got me into the series

[@DJ.The.Tiger25]

It wasn't my first far cry, mine was 3. But personally I really enjoy 6

[@maxmfpayne]

I love the fact you're talking about this game because it's been my favorite far cry game for a long time. Ever since I've played it, I've honestly felt a sense of disappointment in everything that followed. I think I'm going to reinstall it rn.

[@ORLY911]

I liked 4 more than 3 and I liked 3 a lot. They just made the gameplay better and more fleshed out, made the activities a bit more interesting so it didnt just feel like me trying to max out my upgrade trees like in 3. And like you said at the end the game is pretty and has its own weird tone about it that's never been done since. Last good Far Cry game IMO.

[@jonasc1221]

1:55:15 the Far Cry 3 end theme is one of the most beautiful and haunting pieces of music I've heard. It's so good and you placed it well!

[@armoredcoreexile]

I so, sooooo fucking badly, wanted to get a version of this game from the Pagan side of things. I wanted that option. An entirely alternate campaign. And by your actions, you can convince Pagan to become a kinder person who has a firm grasp on the hand of Kyrat. Instead of on its throat.

[@noah_body_cares]

1:48:47 I love Pagan's tone here. He's almost like "You fucking idiot, I've been trying to give you the throne for the entire game"

[@AC-hj9tv]

Awesome use of the Clash cover for intro song!!

[@MasterSanders]

Far Cry 4 was my introduction to the series. A friend of mine told me about the secret ending at the beginning, so I was intrigued. I bought the game before Primal and 5 came out, and I remember people complaining about how bad it was compared to 3, even then. However, I do think it holds up as one of the stronger, if not the strongest title in the series.

I have played out 3, 4, 5 two times! They were unique in their story and placement. But this FC6 is just, i don’t know, it is just cold. I can’t feel that uniqueness in it, you know, where you can imagine yourself in the protagonists place!