FAR CRY 6 COLLAPSE DLC - How Joseph Seed Turned The Deputy Into THE JUDGE

[@VideoGameSophistry]

Questions about what happens in this DLC and how it relates to the story? HERE'S WHAT EVERYTHING MEANS! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIWbh5SPe82ab6M

[@aydenmetz3596]

There should be a mod or dlc where you could help the judge ans he removes his mSk

[@stewartsingal4599]

Thank you about telling us the answer about The Judge is The Deputy Rookie.

[@TheOfficialBrother]

Locked in a bunker in a post apocalyptic hellscape with an evangelical nutcase is probably one of my worst fears

[@daynechastant]

When your loyal allies all disappeared in a moment and you not only drive to the only safe place in the county...And you are suddenly completely at Joseph Seed's mercy... Funny that both the villains and Ubisoft both enjoyed taking free will from the player.

[@kingoflebanon1986]

This guy is not evangelical lol

[@cameo86]

That, in my opinion, would still have made a better FC6 than what we actually got 😑

[@lastwolflord]

If you play New Eden Joseph was actually right though.

[@DocHolliday1851]

Especially for someone that was part of a non standard group. I'm really suspicious after having left JW. Being stuck in a room with someone like Joseph would not be good for me.

[@lightningbug9564]

its very weird that the literal pirate seems more stable then the other two

[@Nobark-NoBite]

I think vass wasn't really the bad guy and that jason was insane

[@comet3969]

@@Nobark-NoBite Probably, neither were the bad guy. It’s Citra messing with both their heads.

[@MaskOfLimbo]

@@Nobark-NoBite I mean, Vaas sold people as slaves and probably did other horrible stuff, so he IS a bad guy. However, truly Citra is to blame for messing with his head for so long that he went to Hoyt. Jason WAS about to follow the same path, but thankfuly he got out.

[@xxlasthopexx2603]

@@MaskOfLimbo Or maybe he didn’t. They left that part always ambiguous as they did the ending to Far cry 4, plus we’ll never know who in Kyrat launched those Nukes.

[@vault18starplayerandenclav8]

@@xxlasthopexx2603 i mean from what we have it was probably only ajay who had the nuclear launch codes so it was probably him

[@christophermarkee5445]

He broke the deputy spirit and took what was left and turn them into his owe personal monster to unleash upon the world.

[@therookieva]

I have a feeling some part of the deputy is still in there. If the other characters can right away recognize the deputy even though they have a mask on and clothes that block everything. I'm sure there's a way that even the deputy can come back.

[@LeCatte]

The deputy's spirit was already broken with the bombs and all that so... Joseph Seed just had to mold the pieces back together with a new purpose.

[@kingjoker8399]

@@therookieva people do talk to him when you have him on your team in new dawn but he’s still the same

[@the_swordman1]

@@kingjoker8399 I remember Carmina (The daughter of Nick Rye) said once "I know you, you saved me, ma and pa, I know you are still in there" or at least something like that and the judge/Rook only grunted (well maybe because he/she didn't had a VA in FC5) but you could feel that he/she was happy that at least Carmina survived the nukes

[@kingjoker8399]

@@the_swordman1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqCpe2ZtptSni9U it’s a certain conversation she has with him on this vid

[@tk-hf4oz]

First I liked the idea Deputy was a mute protagonist but damn, now I wish he had a name and a decent backstory.

[@bunnylegion3969]

Idk, I kinda like the mysteriousness behind them. They’re just an enigma with no name, and they were tortured relentlessly by Seed. To me, that’s an ok backstory.

[@MaskOfLimbo]

@@bunnylegion3969 True, but... as a FC protagonist he kinda lacks :P

[@deepblume6611]

The dep does have a name, its what you name your character

[@Smirving]

@@MaskOfLimbo After Jason every character lacks

[@tk-hf4oz]

@@Smirving Jason truly set the bar so god damn high!

[@reapergaming7680]

Just seeing how Joseph Treated The deputy like family kinda makes me feel bad for him Especially with how he regrets what he did in the DLC

[@sansguerra2265]

Joseph only forsaw the nukes but he didn't launch them, he did create an army out of poeple that just wanted a peaceful life, but oh well, in the end it doesn't matter

[@_aWiseMan]

He even redeems himself in new dawn........dang farcry has good villains

[@baileyface54]

@@sansguerra2265 If they just wanted a peaceful life they'd have had it. No one cared about them more than giving them extreme eyerolling until they started taking places and people by force and started carving into them, killing them to "cull the herd", or pumping so many drugs in them death would be an improvement on their lives so they'd be "angels". I mean, I guess they wanted to peacefully destroy other peoples lives but by that logic Hitler just wanted a peaceful life.

[@fumarc4501]

You do realize that the deputy was probably physically and physiological tortured for years, right?

[@gabigol52]

Imo, Eden’s gates message and objective was right, but the execution was all the way wrong. Forcing people to join a cult and threatening to kill them is not the way to go, so that’s why I felt good about sort of killing him, well more injuring him.

[@lukeepic]

Really liked the DLC's , probably more than the real game , they went on a more serious tone which is something ubisoft doesn't do that often

[@xxlasthopexx2603]

I’m with you on that. For me Far Cry 6 had its moments but didn’t feel as impactful as the rest did if you know what I mean.

[@grunkythegrandpaofcheese5241]

Far Cry 6 is shit

[@choochootrain2145]

@@grunkythegrandpaofcheese5241 it is. The DLCs are decent, though

[@ryanpiersonthebananalord6611]

@@xxlasthopexx2603 yes

[@ryanpiersonthebananalord6611]

Farcry 5 had the perfect mix of silly and serious and the Villains were top teir

[@radioactivegum2298]

What an oddly tender moment. He really did treat Dep like family in the end.

[@Athetos_Admech]

It makes sense when you consider what sort of villian he was in the previous game, a well-intentioned extremist. While his family's methods were monstrous their goal of saving as many people from the apocalypse as possible was noble. They weren't enslaving people for selfish reasons, they really did think it was for their victims own good. In light of that it makes sense for him to think that if he can save one person, even if it's his worst enemy, then maybe it wouldn't have all been for nothing.

[@symmetrymilton4542]

He brainwashed the Dep into a monster

[@mightychosen2587]

@@symmetrymilton4542 Just like he did to many of the people the deputy indiscriminately murder. "They must learn to be judged as they have judged" I mean it is funny isn't it? The exact same line can be applied to many people in the cult we indiscriminately murder so it is funny some people only "feel bad" and see the tragedy when it is the MC or characters they knew on "the good side" before hand but the fact is that many of the cultist was/are in very same situation as the deputy and was brainwashed. I kinda like this whole judge thing because it makes sense within the narrative and not least really points out the extreme bias in some players...

[@TheOfficialBrother]

The Deputy is still tied to the same desk when Joseph puts the mask on you. Either that, or they’re sitting in the exact same spot they ended Farcry 5 in. I wouldn’t exactly call that family member behavior LOL Joseph is a religious nutcase that brainwashed thousands into war mongering cultists. He did the same to the deputy in the years they were locked up together

[@MrJerkdude1]

@@Athetos_Admech "They weren't enslaving people for selfish reasons." John tortured people simply to fill his urges. Faith just wanted to get wasted, and Jacob uses Social Darwinism as copium. They were all in it for personal gain, but wouldn't admit it. This is what the vision of what it would have been like if they were in the bunker too is trying to prove.

[@unoriginalname4426]

I like how “the voice” is also voiced by Greg Byrk, voice actor for Joseph. Cements the fact that Joseph _was_ crazy all along.

[@Lord_GhostBoner_]

His wife died in a car crash and he snapped, as he watched over his just recently born child, the voice of God told him to kill it, but that voice was of the demon that is now him and his damned mind

[@TheSMR1969]

So he just had a lucky guess about end of the world lmao

[@unoriginalname4426]

@@TheSMR1969 I’m quite certain that he set the nukes off himself, actually

[@TheSMR1969]

@@unoriginalname4426 he didn't, Ajay fired the nukes from kyrat as just reward for America.

[@unoriginalname4426]

@@TheSMR1969 u sure?

[@Spartan_Ghost98]

So he never tortured the deputy? Joseph treated him like family? this changed every thing for me

[@eltipodepan6373]

Think he phycology tortures the deputy, cuz he tricks him into thinking it was all his fault for the fallout and stuff... think in the notes for new dawn their were notes from the deputy I think I could be wrong but close enough

[@mightychosen2587]

He just did to the deputy what he did to several other members of his cult to make them "loyal followers". Faith(Rachel) is a prime example to that as showed and she was also clearly(albeit more directly and explicitly) brainwashed, manipulated and psychologically tortured to make her "his Faith"... Furthermore many other cultist are also brainwashed or tortured into it in a very similar way as it happens to the deputy... Joseph is rarely showed to be actually violent or brutal but yeah he definitely still affects, tortures and manipulates people on a psychological level...

[@NaruSanavai]

@@mightychosen2587 And that is why the most dangerous individuals are those that never have to bloody their own hands with violence; they manipulate others into doing it for them.

[@oneosix106decena]

@@eltipodepan6373 i mean its techniaclly both of theres Deputy dirupted the peace with the cult And joseph didnt vomplete the "prophecy"

[@joeymangrum4883]

He was starved im pretty sure

[@BigW541]

That makes sense why the Deputy had plot armor and when he was caught multiple times he managed to escape. Because “god” wanted him alive because the Deputy was the only one who could save Joseph from his family.

[@mightychosen2587]

Save Joseph from his family? What do you mean? He is literally the sole reason why his family got into it in the first place...

[@MrJerkdude1]

Deputy is literally the second coming of christ! This is why he's called the judge

[@TheOfficialBrother]

@@MrJerkdude1 not literally! Theoretically! It’s a theory. Not a fact.

[@MrJerkdude1]

@@TheOfficialBrother Not even theoretically. Metaphorically! The director himself gave a nod to an article that explored this.

[@thepolticalone961]

@@mightychosen2587 Joseph's family would have killed him in the bunker. That's what his visions show and they were probably right

[@oneosix106decena]

He,s litteraly the calmest villain Deputy/rook litteraly killed faith seed jacob and john and killed also killed all of josephs fammily But yet he still accepted him as a fammily And even named him as the most badass name "The Judge" And even resisted on torturing him and killing him

[@Perroden]

It's so fucking dumb tho

[@drifzyy67]

fammily

[@Joesworstmate]

@@drifzyy67 fammmily

[@pepsisavedtheworld9125]

*family*

[@gustavoramalho9454]

@@Joesworstmate fammmmily

[@toastbud6870]

I wish they did more with deputy/judge in new dawn like he reunites with his only friends only because he follows you to there and they all recognize him immediately. He played such a big part in 5 and Joseph seed but in the end he just became a gun for hire with no cutscene or closure 😢

[@metalraider9782]

People do recognize the judge as the Deputy. Carmina, Nick, Hurk, and I think a few others. If you got to the “hangout spot” in new dawn after unlocking Judge there are idle conversations between him/her and the other guns for hire and if you bring judge with you to prosperity after saving Nick they too have idle conversations.

[@johnnyvargas5450]

3:16: pause fast and you can see the deputy face

[@thes.k.eletonhunter7951]

Ladies and gentlemen, we got’em

[@relliers9930]

@@thes.k.eletonhunter7951 lol

[@joycebuchanan2202]

Wow

[@joycebuchanan2202]

Wow 👏

[@ttgjolt989]

🤔

[@2Scribble]

2:22 - So our character tried to kill themselves by cutting their own throat??? Explains why 'we' couldn't talk in New Dawn...

[@_aWiseMan]

No the "sin" is reffering to how the cultists cut "wrath" into the deputys skin......they intended to cut that piece of skin off but seems deputy attempted to himself

[@coltforceplayer]

Isn’t Wrath written on the Deputy’s boobs tho, I play as the Female Dep so it’s canon

[@foilsman9023]

@@coltforceplayer no male is cannon

[@coltforceplayer]

@@foilsman9023 no, even though you see the deputy’s face it’s just Joseph’s face and it says that the Female Dep is canon

[@foilsman9023]

@@coltforceplayer they never said that but ok 😂

[@KyoPride]

Welp looks like New Dawn is canon after all

[@dumbsow9420]

They're most likely separate timeless. Timeline maybe where FC5 did happen with the nuke ending and the one where the nukes aren't launched

[@MarcusAurelius-20VT]

@@dumbsow9420 the nukes are canon too though because Pagan Min launched them in the previous DLC

[@dumbsow9420]

@@MarcusAurelius-20VT Yep I know. I mean like two cannon timelines the nuke timeline and none nuke one. If that makes sense.

[@karliskokorevics6902]

@@MarcusAurelius-20VT He didn't. That was just a tie-in. FC5 itself reveals that in the resist ending WW3 starts.

[@MarcusAurelius-20VT]

@@karliskokorevics6902 ah I got you guys, I ain’t played it but just watching videos from the sideline. The timeline is so confusing now

[@basicboi5753]

Another way is that when you were in wolves den someone said that if u listen to jacobs music 3 or 4 times you become a completely different person and If you choose walk away ending you will hear the music on the radio

[@BrickFighter13]

3:16 The Deputy's face can slightly be seen. He has a beard from what I see

[@thenexus8384]

And from what it looks like they're black (but it could also just be the lighting that's causing that

[@ianmaluk1]

I think it's just reusing Joseph's face model. If there's any significance to that, I would think it means that he sees himself in the Deputy; or the more likely answer is that it saves on assets and time.

[@BrickFighter13]

@@ianmaluk1 you know that could be the more logical reason, but still would be cool if the Deputy got his own model, but the Joesph Seed model reused for him is likely the answer to it

[@voxpopuli7910]

Yes

[@AprilOceann]

@@BrickFighter13 since u could choose what deputy’s face looked like gender etc it wouldn’t make much sense to see what they looked like

[@Themountain6197]

My boy the deputy has returned!!

[@FreeAimDog]

as an enemy you have to kill though

[@Themountain6197]

@@FreeAimDog we don't talk about that part

[@MasterHall117]

@@FreeAimDog Wait wut?

[@FreeAimDog]

@@MasterHall117 yeah hes a enemy AI that keeps spawning with a flame thrower or LMG and you have to shoot him.

[@MasterHall117]

@@FreeAimDog Oof

[@The-Rguy]

You either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain

[@chadmolligan5418]

3:16 My Rook is a sad looking dude 😔

[@garetcrader1575]

Joseph's character arc as well as the Rooks is really weird when you start getting into new dawns story after the nuke

[@skyblazeXIII]

Soooo does this mean that Far Cry 7 will take place in a New Dawn-esque setting? Since it looks like New Dawn is canon after all and "Let Joseph live" is the canon choice too seems most likely.

[@Spartan_Ghost98]

No he said he is still in the bunker with the deputy, and there’s a mission where you see Joseph’s dead body under a burning tree so shooting him was cannon

[@sneakyfoxgamer7484]

@@Spartan_Ghost98 well either that or he probably killed himself if captain refused to kill him!

[@saorideru]

knowing Ubisoft possibly they will make another experimental game like new dawn but in Yara

[@robertrafols6192]

I always let Joseph live. I really like having a guy like him around. Early warning system for nukes and other crazy shit.

[@ROrneli]

ND changed a bunch of canon. If you noticed Joseph and his siblings controlled 3 nuclear silos. and the nukes are nowhere to be seen. it is possible that when the sheriff went to arrest Joseph someone watching far off ordered the detonation of 3 nuclear bombs . This makes more sense because far off in Miami in Far cry 6 everything is normal which means that the collapse only happened in Montana . ND kind of changes everything which i did not like.

[@Patches_0001]

@@ROrnelipagan min and Joseph worked together, the nukes in hope county were sent by pagan we don’t know if Joseph gave his nukes to pagan or also launched them but pagan did already have a nuclear arsenal

[@LMAJOR-oe5ne]

I really wish they wrote new dawn to be from the perspective of the judge, battling their loyalty to new Eden but getting suddenly reunited with their old friends while also battling the highwaymen. They probably wouldn’t know who you were at first because you keep your identity hidden, and they treat you coldly as you work for Joseph, but as the game goes on there would be cut scenes of you revealing who you are to them. Idk I just felt robbed of seeing those interactions. Plus it’s the dep that was the leader from the start - it’s only fair she gets to end it too. Makes sense narratively for the dep to be involved with Joseph’s ending, not some rando. As well, I feel as though Carmina could have sort of replaced the captain in the storyline if we were rewriting it this way. Idk, just my thoughts.

[@Rosenblins]

It's a really good storyline, although, personally, I don't agree too much with it being in the actual game. Sure, it would be badass to play the deputy again but it would be kind of hard for ubisoft to not make it feel like a stretch or a sequel just made because of the success of FC5, (not going to coment if new dawn is actually that already). Maybe not make the story around the deputy, but place them in a more important role

[@Rosenblins]

And sorry if I'm saying nonsense, but it may be because I haven't finished new dawn yet

[@hunterratchford1925]

So the deputy became Darth Vader.

[@lastwolflord]

Pretty much. Literally in that he got burnt up from the nukes.

[@mrwise1314]

Now I’m imaging the Darth Vader creation scene but there is a swap with Jospeh seed and The Deputy.

[@samiecunio]

"No one is coming save you.." then Joseph came and atleast he saved the deputy. Nice story

[@NGMonocrom]

The only way to get the good ending in FarCry 6 is to not arrest Joseph Seed near the start of the game.

[@oneosix106decena]

I did thqt The marshals just sqid C,mon cuff him

[@justsomerandomguy992]

@@oneosix106decena You have to wait

[@adamanderson9593]

I think you mean Far Cry 5

[@topcat59]

I’m amazed that Joseph seed had time to get his drip before he went to the bunker with you.😺

[@pauliegportugueseguy7155]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@StapApollo]

And that's why you actually give a face to the main character and doesn't make them a faceless mute mannequin. Imagine seed actually holding and speaking to a real character and not a gas substance?

[@truthfullyidk2925]

I feel like the reason why they made the deputy that way was so us as the player could make the deputy into our own character we could chose his gender what he looked like, his backstory

[@joeycampbell940]

@@truthfullyidk2925 and plenty of games have given us that without being a faceless mute. Just look at Dragon Age Inquisition every different race, gender and species had different back stories, dialogs and motivations.

[@Cat_Garfield]

@@truthfullyidk2925 3:16 face

[@Bobert2314]

DEPUTY WOULDN'T BE IN THAT MESS IF HE WAS LOOKING AT THE DANG ROAD

[@DylanAlitzproductions]

It wasn't the deputies fault a tree landed on the car he was paying attention to the road

[@plague995]

Come on the judge is such a badass nickname, ubi really should of gave rook a backstory and a voice.

[@Patches_0001]

Rook is canonically mute

[@chrisrose2767]

"God will send us Manna"....even though they are in an underground bunker 😂

[@addisonwelsh]

Joseph was never the picture of mental stability.

[@Gizzor]

i want a jackal from far cry 2 dlc now

[@TheTber123]

Same

[@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841]

Same The Jackal are a great villain and Anti Hero. And Far Cry 2 as whole is a fantastic game

[@alanhanly9628]

Why the deputy has no protagonism in new dawn, after all what he've done in far cry 5

[@kraftik5300]

his life as deputy ended and he lived as new person, The Judge.

[@TheJuniorDeputyRookie]

I'm tired for bring and lead people to the bloody now and i feel guilty with everything i done since 2018 This time i would trust that Captain for did this duty instead... 😭

[@tompayton84]

Crazy to think they spent 6 years in the bunker. How did they not go completely insane!

[@AidenPearce8281]

3:16 Deputy's face

[@Outlaw7263]

He looks like Takkar from far cry primal

[@Bobert2314]

@@Outlaw7263 MAYBE DEPUTY IS A TIME TRAVELER

[@Death_Brigade]

@@Bobert2314 Deputy is a space cop that travels through time lol

[@partygoer1856]

Mc: so judge how did you become the judge? The judge: **proceeds to murder so many people it could be considered a genocide** Mc: good... talk...

[@nicksbroarmy2476]

Joseph Seed is the master of asmr

[@ghostkilla931]

When the main game is so bad they bring back the good characters.

[@AmanWithBucket]

I thought the judge was that bow girl from far cry 5, but to know that the person we knew as a hero is nothing more than a mindless monster forsaken to his own personal hell

[@acidbumlui]

Love the great work you are doing keep it up 💕☺

[@FreeAimDog]

what i dont get is how is joseph even in this dlc if he never died in 5? as far as i know new dawn is non cannon so it dint count. he should technically be alive.

[@WinstonPoptart]

This makes New Dawn canon now

[@FreeAimDog]

@@WinstonPoptart i’m normally not the plothole type but if that’s true how can joseph be dead if the series takes place 20 years after 5 and 6? ima be honest far cry primal is one of my top 3 favorites even though people hate it, i love the bee traps you can craft and you can have a honey badger as a fangs for hire or tame any predator you see. the giant mammoths are fun to ride too since they annihilate anything in front of them without trying. my only complaint about primal is there is no raptors, judging by 6s dinosaur park models they would have been huge and fun to kill, like the ones on blood dragon but then again those are dragons no dinosaurs. i just think it was a missed opportunity.

[@vertypop777]

@@FreeAimDog I think there are no raptors because dinosaurs were long extinct before humans came around

[@FreeAimDog]

@@vertypop777 that sucks but it would have been a cool idea right? just imagine those ones that look like ducky from land before time just running around and attacking the cave men

[@kingjoker8399]

He died in new dawn

[@sleepyischillin1559]

If i had an extra hand ill give this game 3 thumbs up! This game is really satisfying.

[@Shadow-Company-Operator]

I find it sad we didn't continue playing ass the Deputy, but hey atleast he's in the game with badass name.

[@personderpsom1967]

man imagine the marshal just said nevermind

[@tow971]

I wonder what would've happened if joseph lost. Like I wonder how rewarded the deputy would get.

[@shaunaksamant1603]

Put the vid at .25x at 3:15 to see his face almost clearly

[@jpf7942]

This is the equivalent of being trapped in a bunker with Jehovah Witness. Don't open your doors folks. Its a trap😂😂

[@sherlockbatmanholmes892]

I wonder how hard it was for them to create non gendered dialogue since you could chose if the deputy was male or female

[@Fulcrox]

Its Basically replacing he or she with they

[@hungvjppr012]

@@Fulcrox no its fucking not

[@roughpatmusic]

@@hungvjppr012 yikes, that response wasn’t necessary.

[@TheJuniorDeputyRookie]

Then why they can did for Dani ?

[@BlackoutZ169]

Now listen back in 2016 I was driving a car in farcry5 and I heard something about riots and nukes which connects farcry5 and 6 along with farcry 4

[@MisterJohnDoe]

Far Cry 5 is the only game in the series I've beaten. I really shouldn't be looking at spoilers, but damn I really want to know what happened to the Dep after the ending.

[@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer]

Play New Dawn

[@MisterJohnDoe]

@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer Yeah, the other day I was just looking at a video of multiple NPCs speaking with "The Judge". Aside from that, that's all I really know about that game. I'll try it though if I get the chance.

[@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer]

@@MisterJohnDoe I personally really enjoyed it. I never got the hate for 5 and new dawn. Much better than 6 in my opinion.

[@whatsfordinner62]

Joseph Seed is driven by a chaotic mind presenting itself as calm and collected, and an unwavering faith that permits him to do good and harm as long as he believes it is part of God's plan. His soul is tarnished from the lives he's abducted and taken, all he can do is recognize his failures and he tries to do what he views as right by the rookie. I haven't played the dlc to far cry 5 so I don't know his character development from then on, but I like seeing the more human side of him. The fact he tries in his way to guide the rookie to becoming the judge. He doesn't use violence anymore, he uses his words and whether you view it as breaking the rookie or getting his message through to the rookie, they are now the father and the judge together.

[@shadow_operator3735]

After years of finding The answer it's finally here

[@Bryan-gq3wp]

I think I'll learn the identity because I'm stop pausing at the right timing and I actually think I know what's his identity avbrownbeard and the eye color is brown kinda have kind of like a moody face so that's the benefit of slow motion and pausing

[@Heartshapedbox81]

Aside from the Joseph Simps that I ignore and always do as well as the people who think that they're in the right state of mind while also trying to justify the deeds of the seeds... this is like the final nail in the coffin and slap in the face of players, you know the ones who actually cared more about the people who weren't trying to kill and mutilate people under the guise of saving them? when in actuality if you actually want to save people you tell them the truth and if they don't believe you well you just let them be, maybe they should just let the character rest if they hated them so much that every ending in their actual game is dreadful and in this one they are seemingly trying to side with psychos who try to justify Joseph (but I guess it's always the nuts that are most vocal) you know, the baby killer? By having it be some type of redemption? Like that's f***ing happening, Yeah I like Far Cry 5 as a game aside from the fact that they were like tame as far as cults are concerned and really tried to just... yeah no tame covers it, also what the hell was with the heights? Have they not seen men and women? There are obvious height discrepancies in most cases! like stop drinking, but in any case, the deputy deserved better, feel free to try and change my mind but it won't happen. They wanted to try and be deep and have it be like look! "You" destroyed everything in the end! But the game doesn't even give you a choice or have it make sense... they literally have other characters forcing your hand whereas if I'm given the choice it be like yeah I'm just going to get the heck out of here, but you have to deal with everyone else via the games design telling you to blow up every bunker even though I'd rather just get the F out after getting people out, you got to try harder if you want to be deep, and considering how much more they could have done they definitely needed to try harder especially as far as characters were concerned and no I don't mean making the seeds nicer 😒 like I'm sure a bunch of criminal apologists would prefer... they actually should have been more sadistic, visibly. Not just word of mouth and aftermath (see outlast) Nonetheless I am quite fond of the game for what it is, I've played it three times since but that also just made me realize how much better it would have been if they had added a lot of things instead of playing it so safe.

[@mightychosen2587]

It is more about viewing the story with nuance and self awarenesa which a lot of simplistic, typical fps players seem to miss... The message or point isn't that Joseph is justified or that he is an actual good guy, but that dosent mean that the deputy tackle the situation correctly and is justified to do what they do which is the main point. The deputy is not exactly wrong because they are trying to stop a suspected criminal cult leader at first hand but more the way the deputy goes on about the situation post the tutorial AS IT IS SET UP which is wrong... It is more about how the deputy goes on about the situation and decides to directly wage war against Edens Gate the way they do instead of more doing what's correct and prefer to do things in a less violent manner which is why the secret ending is ultimately the right thing to do... And no that doesn't mean ignoring and leaving Joseph for good but simply that you leave to inform the outside world and plan a better approach with more reinforcements to even possibly force a surrendering which leads to less casualties on both sides which should always be preferred... - The deputy never acts like a police officer and never do arrests even when possible and many things we do is completely illegal aswell. Many of the missions we take part in or things we do in the game is either morally or logically wrong aswell as a police officer and supposed good person... - The deputy takes part in a mission killing cows with fire and reapers because he needs the testicles for an annual festival - very necessary in the situation i see. ;) - The deputy teams up with actual criminals from the resistance and flames angels(actual people) without remorse while freaking out to disco music. - Chasing a dude and purposely shoots him lethally and canonically picks up his body to unnecessarily throw it around - unnecessary brutalism and wrath is not a good guy at all... - Takes part in "voter suppression" at a street corner and literally kills people just for fun and again indiscriminately murder a lot indoctrinated people who are brainwashed or tortured into it aswell or people who only are with Joseph to stay alive or to be saved. (Definitely not only self defense neither) - Blows up a lot of useful buildings(hotels and water treatment plant) and things which could have been reformed and used aswell. - Blows up a statue and burns a book at the top. (so professional) Etc... - We are actively seeking to kill people and builds up a resistance and takes part in anarchist resistance missions as a militia guerilla fighter and storywise it is not like we only kill people in self defense as we are the one on the offensive leading a resistance and seeks to kill. - The deputy actively feeds a war and never attempts to do anything else which leads to a lot of casualties and destruction on both sides. - Ahh and all the casual stuff: Steals and pillage stuff from local business and personal property's, indiscriminately kills animals in various brutal ways, steals vehicles however i could blush these things off as "gameplay fun" but still it is present in the game and this is what we do... - Many of the people in the cult the deputy indiscriminately murders are equally brainwashed or tortured into this aswell and even worse but the deputy never attempts to help people. - Faith is very major example to that and the deputy basically murder a young(barely an adult) victimized/brainwashed girl who literally and finally breaks down and screams for help/mercy and in the scene tries to reach out and surrender but the Deputy doesn't seem to care - what a hero who just takes the life of a young victimized girl instead of showing any desire to help her out of this like any good person with any morals should do. Killing a victimized and brainwashed young girl screaming for help should definitely cause some moral conflict and it should be the preferred option for any good person to help someone like her out of this. ANY good person should be able to understand that people may be caught up and victimized onto the "wrong" path and thus attempt to arrest, help or redeem the person especially if the person like her is still very young, clearly equally victimized herself and shows a lot of inner struggle or redeeming qualities but anyway the deputy is not interested in any of that and without hesitation literally taking the life of a young brainwashed girl who can barely be considered an adult and clearly isnt in her right mind - what a hero. She a young girl not far from still being a literally teenager and clearly victimized on this bliss herself so she could definitely have gotten help and didn't needed to be killed to be stopped especially considering how young she is... How some players dosent seem to understand all such morality above also alone shows why this ending fits perfect on the audience it is targeted against... - Also Blowing up some well supplied bunkers for no reason instead of just securing and keeping such very useful undergrund places intact... It is so stupid in every way that not realizing this means that you are surely blinded and biased... By doing this you buries and smothers a lot of people (death or alive) including prisoners who didn't got discovered or rescued... When you venture through them we also can see that they are stocked with food, water and supplies and all kinds of useful stuff, a lot of it taken from the said county and instead of keeping the bunkers intact working to fetch all of these things back out again when possible we just blow it all up for no reason possibly only to show the fps players the "satisfying region liberation" which blinds the fps players to their wrongdoings... Why care if the peggies are stealing it to prepare for the collapse if we and the resistance doesn't care about blowing it all up in the end anyway... And yeah the last factor to that paragraph that considering the end that Joseph ends up being right they ultimately would have been a great factor in saving and helping a lot of people in the end both in terms of food, water and recourses they now hold but also just the big space to surely hold a lot of people... So yeah ultimately by blowing them up you make everything worse and possibly destroys the chance of survival for at least dozens of people, and no matter if Joseph was right or not there is absolutely no reason to blow them and it is just stupid and illogical all around no matter how you look at it. I'm not in for "Joseph is a good guy" but it is clear that the deputy isn't really a good guy neither based on how he does, thinks and acts in terms on how the game is set up. The way this game is made very explicitly highlights how fps kids are blinded to their own evil and wrongdoings just because they are on the "side of good" and do it in the name of doing "what's right". Being a good guy takes more than just being on the "side of good". Like Joseph tackle his "preparing for the collapse" wrong the deputy tackle the situation completely wrong aswell and does a lot of things morally, logically and lawfully wrong throughout.

[@skyblazeXIII]

Ok so canon Rook is male and tan/black skin tone. 3:15 Damn shame that even in this dlc Rook is still a mute. Fuck Ubisoft. But, whatever this game is done.

[@Hellboyfan]

I think its just a rough copy of Josephs face, since you werent normally supposed to see rooks face so that people would imagine their character from 5 under the mask

[@skyblazeXIII]

@@Hellboyfan Really? Seriously? That's just lame. What were they on a "deadline"? Did their budget not make it or just lazy again as usual? It's amazing how Ubisoft managed to make Far Cry 2 and 3. But as the years went by they just got lazy and started copypasting shit instead of taking their sweet time, from the ground up.

[@titel9870]

@@skyblazeXIII You can barely see Rooks face in this scene anyways, what would be the point of wasting effort modelling a face people won't get to fully see for more than second?

[@skyblazeXIII]

@@titel9870 I don't know...how about all the effort and care(or lack thereof) they put into Rook personality and voice-wise, I know, sarcasm, back in Far Cry 5 and New Dawn, you'd think for this DLC they'd put a bit of effort to give a shit about Rook. Idk, that's just my opinion. Look at the Seed siblings. All of them got some decent screentime and story content surrounding their relationship with Joseph Seed, you'd think Ubisoft would be so generous to extend that level and care for Rook as well.

[@Missing-Ace]

So much more should have been done with the judge

[@alkon8032]

There are two ways to interpret this: It's either Joseph broke the Judge and used him/her or the Judge broke alone since there were only the two of them in that bunker who survived, how can you have a choice if what he is saying is both right but not good, and Joseph gave him/her a new purpose. In New Dawn, I felt Joseph's sympathy towards the Judge and felt like he wasn't faking is because he had his family removed again in New Dawn. But still, continued on living, so I think it's the latter. But case in point, the Rookie broke and became the Judge

[@Abdulaziz-ku6xs]

i saw his face at 3:16

[@fnafgamercz]

Deputy has a face

[@quiet3455]

@Zombie Hunter it kind of looks like the default male face.

[@aidengarza1261]

Its been confirmed that farcry 4 and farcry 5 don't take place in the same universe but in their own individual universe but they'll throw small elements in each game from previous titles... Remember josephs cult had missle silos around new Eden so could it possibly be somebody part of the cult was responsible?

[@nestormelendez9005]

Source

[@joycebuchanan2202]

I was doing slow-motion so I can see what the deputy looked like

[@marshalmarshall2109]

wish there was a thing for new dawn where it could read your FC5 data to see if your deputy was male or female and change the Judge's body type accordingly.

[@Xkhaosxzeus]

My head cannon is I (Rook) slip my restraints and snap Joseph's neck the moment he turns around the end lol

[@KlampyToad.]

Imagine leading a whole town and some random guy barges in and kills them all and you forgive him.

[@psychopath3712]

That's faith

[@scharger1691]

"Leading" lmao

[@MarcusConstantine_Cavalida21]

The whole plot aside for one moment, what on God's Earth is Joseph Seed's accent supposed to be? He's like... a New Yorker doing a good impression of Montana cowboy doing a bad impression of a standard American accent. Though Greg Bryk is Canadian, his "doubt" and "not" aren't "dewt" or "noat" as one would expect. His "will" has a silent L and then out of blue he'd shout out "Jacob" as "JAYKUB" like a Brit.

[@TheArbiter1721]

3:17 judge face reveal?

[@KrustyKrabPizza85]

We got a glimpse of the Rooks' face atleast.

[@Fulcrox]

I think it's Joseph Seed face

[@hyperraidsaerofrights5649]

@@Fulcrox doesn't look like it to me

[@fabri.47]

3:16 deputy Canon face

[@yumithehunter6292]

Kinda happy it’s finally cannon Ngl…. Great game…

[@trevorstockwell8290]

It was obvious to me it was the rookie from 5

[@someone.8919]

So it means Far Cry New Dawn is canon?

[@HHfan-sx9qj]

Yes

[@SrChr778]

It's all canon. All of it. Every single Far Cry is connected in a way.

[@chrispayne6787]

No it's not cannon at all and the ending of 5 its all in the deputys head a big bliss dream the guy who did far cry new dawn said its not cannon none off the new dlc from 6 are thay are what if plus he would have definitely killed Joseph

[@chrispayne6787]

@@SrChr778 no none of it is cannon at all far cry new dawn and 5 ending never happened new dawn is in the head off the deputy I big bliss dream far cry 6 is set after 5 and the secret ending is you on a beach in the us the director of new dawn has said its not cannon and is in his head

[@finishem8046]

It’s canon to 5 in a way since this is a legit sequel to 5 as 6 is just another Far Cry game

[@Liquidsbloxfruitvids]

Paused at 3:16 and you can see the deputy face

[@Junk_Yogurt]

So the Deputy being male and possibly black/darker looking is canon it seems

[@kovernut5931]

It’s a rough copy of Joseph Seeds face. Could be metaphorical.

[@coltforceplayer]

Wait if the Deputy has Wrath written on their chest, does that mean John wrote it on the Female Deputy’s boobs

[@janbornowski1267]

@@coltforceplayer UH OH

[@coltforceplayer]

@@janbornowski1267 I play as the female deputy so… just a thought yunno

[@Death_Brigade]

@@coltforceplayer I’m late, but he probably writes it just under her bozongas if you pick a female deputy

[@coltforceplayer]

You know I actually thought that the Deputy was tied up for the whole 6 years but thank god I was wrong

[@bajonett889]

3:15 Did they just actually showed the true face of the deputy or its the caracter from your original game?

[@aayushdas19]

Literally the Emperor and Darth Vader type vibes.

[@Krudu_Maxim1]

3:16 pause its unmasked the judge

[@charlescavanagh9140]

So basically the archer on new dawn is the deputy??

[@xfiqf2812]

Yes it's also heavily implied in new dawn.

[@XMan75]

I just wanna know where the Hell the bunker is!

[@CarlosGonzalez-pl4jk]

It's Dutch Bunker

[@AxellMorren]

Never forget that Deputy still have the Wrath (not rat) written in its chest. (Still finds weird for me, if Dep's a female, the moment John's writing the sin, he can also see it and not see it (Dep's look flat chested))

[@AmputeeTalks]

I swear Joseph is the best villan right next to vaas. He's so hard to hate

[@greenbrickbox3392]

He's a great villain but my feelings are a mixture of hate and pity. He's such a broken person with a messiah complex while also being extremely dangerous and manipulative.

[@GDKF0238]

The only feelings I have for a pretender like this is pity

[@lordmegatronus]

Dude I'm mind blown man I been trying to figure out if deputy was the judge and and I knew 😎

[@spectralassassin6030]

You can learn that in New Dawn. It's not really a secret.

[@lordmegatronus]

@@spectralassassin6030 I did I payed it in 2018 and I was trying to see if I can see the face

[@ShatteredDream-ww2hp]

If you go to 8-bit pizza copy in far cry new dawn (its the place where companions gather when you dont call them) You can hear dialogue between Carmina and Judge (well, more like monologue) where Carmina asks if Judge remembers when he helped her father and mother by delivering them to hospital.

[@lordmegatronus]

@@ShatteredDream-ww2hp yeah also I been trying to figure out how his kid died and wife too at the end

[@scottthomas56]

I've just completed farcry 5 but did not have that extra bit where he puts a mask on the judge ?

[@ROrneli]

I just had a tought. They spent 25 years under ground some 20 something years . Joseph and the deputy spend their time alone in the bunker till then .This means that Ethan is Joseph's and The rooks baby (if the rook is female) if not how else is ethan at least 18 ?-22 years old?

[@Erenthefreedomfighter]

There’s a letter in Joseph’s cabin in New Dawn that reveals who Ethan’s mother is. So, no. It’s not Rook. Also, they were in the bunker for only 6 years.

[@andrewp1653]

So um far cry 6 never mentioned the bombing of montana but looks like its canon soo why didnt they say anything about it?

[@itskaimanzo]

The Rook is a man it's Canon

[@christopherantonyjacob4794]

Yeah he have beard while joseph wore a mask on him Wonder if far cry 6 Dani male or female I guess it's female cuz it's default one at game start idk

[@itskaimanzo]

@@christopherantonyjacob4794 yeah female dani is canon

[@jomama2858]

From the way i saw it, the deputy is black, ig im gonna have to change the character, i thought he would be a white man with a mullet. Watch 3:15 and slow down the video a bit, maybe im blind but....

[@M4K3RDude]

It ain't much but is honest work

[@sharonaarthy3961]

Come we can’t see his face well that’s depressing

[@jadenzombieslayer1569]

My face was bleeding

[@torherk_185]

One thing I have think of: I know Joseph is a particular and unique individual. But, WHO THE FUCK DOES WEAR SUNGLASSES, INSIDE A GODDAMN BUNKER???!!!!

[@Patches_0001]

They look cool

[@olews_69]

3:16 rook face.

[@eltonscipio1331]

Holy shit i just saw his face

[@ScottSmith-zw8et]

Is this the character you play as in Far Cry 5 or another deputy in the game

[@tartlynerdy]

The deputy did not deserve this. ;n;

[@mightychosen2587]

Just like a lot of the people Rook killed with zero hesitation who got into it in a very similar way and a lot of times worse way "They must learn what it is to be judged as they have judged".

[@daysnottime999]

​@Mighty Chosen bruh, eye for an eye. Stop please.

[@computermedics8119]

somebody drank the Kool-Aid lol or the Bliss XD@@mightychosen2587

[@EmptyMan000]

@@daysnottime999 Exactly, Rook took many eyes and now it's time to pay up.

[@LuckyXCX]

I guess the nukes only hit Montana lol

[@slayer952]

How do you get to this part I'm playing the mission and I can't figure out how to get the bunker

[@sekayujora]

Just finished far cry 5..... So.... The sequel is new dawn, right? But this DLC is from far cry 6 that has nothing to do with those games? Im confused after the, "everything you did didn't matter ending"

[@Patches_0001]

Far cry 3, 4, 5 and 6 all take place in the same universe