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Fascinating Horror

Fascinating Horror

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@bellemeri8155
@bellemeri8155 Жыл бұрын
I was sixteen when this happened right behind my grandmother's house. Some of the uninjured passengers walked to the house and stayed on the heated patio until transported elsewhere. It was a chaotic day and night as the crash took out the power, all the rescue crews blocked the roads, and the scene itself was horrible. My grandfather was on one of the paramedic crews that responded to the scene. I don't think I'll ever forget the aftermath of events.
@martinkalmus3761
@martinkalmus3761 Жыл бұрын
16 years..and 16 body bags but killer gets 5 to 4 long years too :)
@SAOS451316
@SAOS451316 Жыл бұрын
One should be careful with personal information online. With this comment we know your age and where you or at least your grandmother used to live, which is enough to find your real name, everywhere you have lived, your phone number, your school history, your job, your face, and your friends and family. Easy identity theft or stalking. The Internet is a wonderful tool, but like any other requires a modicum of safe practices.
@DARWINZOO
@DARWINZOO Жыл бұрын
​@SAOS451316 he Was 16. Probably knows what he's doing. I'm just saying that this info is everywhere anyway. Guard your phone numbers. Don't use your real name or birthday on social media. That said, if you're likely to be Doxxed, check out your social media trail. Google yourself. Never allow tagging. Privacy is an illusion. Unless we get past it we won't get cameras of 4 way stops because omg Privacy! My legal name is nowhere on the internet. Oh yeah, you can try. But thing is, trapped on dial-up AOL I already protected my name. Xo Sam
@shaundevrisky349
@shaundevrisky349 Жыл бұрын
🙄@@SAOS451316
@EziekKiel
@EziekKiel Жыл бұрын
@@SAOS451316 Ya know, I think you're an awesome person for showing concern for the kiddo. But really all we do know is that a 16 year old somewhere in Boston has a grandmother. If you can actually sleuth your way into acquiring more personal details then you have my respect!
@MisterRawgers
@MisterRawgers Жыл бұрын
This man deserves so many more views & subscribers. So many channels are using annoying A.I narration. This dude not only covers obscure cases but he does it in a way that comes across so naturally with the facts & great editing. I’ve been here with this channel a long time now & can say that he (or the team) deserve the views & many more imo. Thank you!
@murphychurch8251
@murphychurch8251 Жыл бұрын
I agree, he does them in a dignified manner, without being overly dramatic. I also love that he keeps doing them in the same way and doesn't change his way of doing these videos every now and then, which is something I find disappointing on other channels.
@morganaravens
@morganaravens Жыл бұрын
@@murphychurch8251 the only change i noticed was, thankfully, lowering the volume of the bg music, and doing some funny stuff for the holidays
@bakugobaby3100
@bakugobaby3100 Жыл бұрын
Brick immortar does this too. Different events but mass respect. I enjoy watching both ❤
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 Жыл бұрын
In 2000, I was on a train that collided with a bunch of construction equipment that had been left on the track. Luckily, no one died, and there weren't even any serious injuries. There was a pregnant woman worried that she was going into labour, another passenger with a badly bruised arm, and another with a bruised chest (from the tray table) but as far as I know, that was it. My mum, an RN, was asked to help with the injuries. I was left to my own devices for a bit, so I snapped a couple of photos of the wreckage after getting our luggage off the train. We eventually were led on foot to a nearby community centre. We were fed hotdogs, assessed for injuries (again, my mum helped) and eventually loaded onto busses to continue on to our destination. We only ended up being around six hours late arriving.
@daviddunsmore103
@daviddunsmore103 Жыл бұрын
I hope that your Mom got at least a very polite letter of thanks from the railway company!! 👏
@kellyreiche8775
@kellyreiche8775 Жыл бұрын
what about the pregnant woman who thought she was going into labor with her baby was the baby born or was it a false alarm because of the trauma that she endured I am wondering if she is okay and worried about her and her baby and I know that her son or daughter are not a baby anymore but I am curious
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 Жыл бұрын
@@kellyreiche8775 I have no idea. We never heard from anyone afterward. I assume they were okay. At the time, my mum didn't seem to think the woman was in labour. If she had been, the baby would still likely have been fine, as the pregnancy was quite advanced.
@tdoran616
@tdoran616 Жыл бұрын
Where was this? Might be able to find a online article or news segment about this
@ceilinh6004
@ceilinh6004 Жыл бұрын
@@tdoran616 Just outside of Guelph, Ontario. Summer of 2000. Edit: I googled it. It was train 683 on July 9th, 2000.
@jerrywright9657
@jerrywright9657 Жыл бұрын
The older members of the firehouse where I volunteer still talk about that day. We are 26 miles from the crash location and were called out along with almost every other FH in the area. This incident turns up in mass causality incident response planning.
@Flyboy207
@Flyboy207 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a volunteer FF for about 7 years, my station is also responsible for our regional airport. In our MCI drills, we usually assume that structural failure of the aircraft would have occurred and victims would be ejected, but even if it hadn’t, extrication from an aluminum/composite aircraft wouldn’t be too hard. I can’t imagine trying to extricate victims from a stainless steel train car. My hat’s off to them.
@adamhickey396
@adamhickey396 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the person responsible for this accident has shown remorse and contrition for their actions and has spent the rest of their life trying to help others. Very rare to see this in these stories. I do think that the second person got off too lightly though.
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 Жыл бұрын
He had more humanity and dignity than most of the "killers" in these videos... He reminds of that other guy from the Hyatt Regency Video.
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom Жыл бұрын
I think the 1st person got off way too lightly. They killed 16 people and only got 4 years in prison? There are people who only kill 1 and get life without parole. I hate how "well, you didn't mean to" is this magic, borderline get out of jail free card that lets you commit way worse crimes and get off easy.
@kellark
@kellark Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same thing.
@faenethlorhalien
@faenethlorhalien Жыл бұрын
@@reversalmushroom Because they were white. Basically. I'd have jailed them for 15 years at least, no parole before 10.
@foo219
@foo219 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was a life in prison type of crime in my opinion. But the one guy is making up for it at least. The other guy just walked away free, though? That's not justice.
@blackhouse4421
@blackhouse4421 Жыл бұрын
I started working with Amtrak a few years after this accident and was assigned to one of the repair shops that worked on the rail cars damaged in this accident. It was disturbing to work on these cars because there were belongings of the survivors and deceased still on some of the cars. Some cars were beyond repair, cannibalized for parts & scrapped.
@LoveMaskedBandits
@LoveMaskedBandits Жыл бұрын
Were the items retrieved sent to any family members?
@blackhouse4421
@blackhouse4421 Жыл бұрын
Yes, everything that could be identified belonging passengers on the manifest, but small personal items couldn't be accounted for, such as hairbrushes, books, make-up, etc.@@LoveMaskedBandits
@rapidthrash1964
@rapidthrash1964 Жыл бұрын
I never heard about this accident before; I can’t believe that a person with a severe drinking problem would be allowed to operate locomotive at all by their employer
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 Жыл бұрын
Look at all the drunk pilots that were flying years ago. Some times the employers just don't know.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Жыл бұрын
The employer was Conrail, which was a US government entity.
@nii9466
@nii9466 Жыл бұрын
you'd be shocked how many functional alcoholics are out there. people that drive to & from work every day drunk, do their job drunk, etc. if it's a longstanding problem they get very good at masking it & it can be very hard to notice. it's pretty scary
@christopherweise438
@christopherweise438 Жыл бұрын
@@nii9466 - I know....i used to be one of them. I got very good at always being where i was supposed to be, and covering my tracks. In December i will have been sober 25 years. I'm glad the Conrail engineer has made a positive change in his life.
@nlwilson4892
@nlwilson4892 Жыл бұрын
In the UK if you'd been arrested for drunk driving and you had a job like that, your employer would be told, you'd be suspended and if convicted you'd lose your job.
@maryloufarnsworth8461
@maryloufarnsworth8461 Жыл бұрын
I live in Essex about 5 miles from the crash site. My one brother was training to be an EMT at the time and was at the crash site. Talk about a hands-on experience! Since the crash knocked out power lines along the railway, a radio relay station was set up at a nearby school. My other brother was a ham radio operator and volunteered to man the radios. Information about the victims and survivors was relayed up and down the railroad line. I gave blood. Local restaurants provided food for the rescue crews. This became a real community effort to bring as much aid to this disaster as we could.
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 Жыл бұрын
Having experienced two car crashes, I don't even want to imagine the trauma and horror of a train collision. I hope the survivors got the mental help they likely needed.
@tanderson6442
@tanderson6442 Жыл бұрын
I've lost 2 brothers in vehicular car crashes. One was crushed when the van rolled and he was half ejected out the window. The other in a head-on collision he was traveling 90-95mph the suv he hit was going over 100mph less then a foot of skid marks the 2 vehicles were fused together in the ditch and had to be cut apart at the wrecking yard. I've been in 3 roll overs, 2 collisions with trees that totaled the vehicle. Hit a moose at 65mph in a Ford Explorer that almost killed me. I once wrecked a bike so bad I was KO'd for over 2 hours and a Angel put me back into my body. You could call it trauma. Or you can come to terms that there is such thing as luck, natural selection, and nobody makes it out of this life alive. I was also told something I will never forget at my brother Jason's funeral by my religious aunt. She said "Never put a question mark where GOD has put a period".
@quest1227
@quest1227 Жыл бұрын
@@tanderson6442sounds like yall gotta slow down 😮😅
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean Жыл бұрын
​@@quest1227 Bruh. Tactless.
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 Жыл бұрын
@@quest1227 Nah neither accident was my fault. I had no points added.
@tanderson6442
@tanderson6442 Жыл бұрын
@@quest1227 that was just life in rural Alaska circa 1980.
@adamhickey396
@adamhickey396 Жыл бұрын
This channel, PlainlyDifficult and Horror Stories are my go-to channels for this kind of content. Always well informed and offers important information to learn from so that, hopefully, others won't make the same mistakes.
@insanimal2
@insanimal2 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your channel choices. If you haven't already check out Waterline Stories and Maritime Horrors , they are both maritime focused but equally well done.
@kettle_of_chris
@kettle_of_chris Жыл бұрын
Same@@insanimal2
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom Жыл бұрын
I haven't heard of Horror Stories, I'll check it out 🤩
@pootispiker2866
@pootispiker2866 Жыл бұрын
Plainly difficult is just another content farm channel imo
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. Жыл бұрын
​@@pootispiker2866I like how PD explains certain situations.
@goodemily
@goodemily Жыл бұрын
I remembered when this happened. My friend’s sister was supposed to be on the train but overslept. I was with my friend when it happened but they thought she was on it at the time it crashed. Such a preventable accident.
@neptunenavalmods4420
@neptunenavalmods4420 Жыл бұрын
Our school's anti-drug counselor was really lucky, he and his wife were also supposed to be on board - they just missed it. Great guy and recovering alcoholic who turned counselor just like Ricky Gates. Told us kids the story to prove that "Mary Jane" is not harmless if you're operating a vehicle!
@PetesNikon
@PetesNikon Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I truly appreciate your solemn voice and respectful treatment of this sort of subject. This report was done right.
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned Жыл бұрын
The account that follows 06:20 now makes me wonder how many people have survived the initial unfolding of some terrible disaster only to be trampled by their fellow humans. I'm sure it's a lot.
@WouldntULikeToKnow.
@WouldntULikeToKnow. Жыл бұрын
It's definitely a repeating theme here on this channel.
@THEFINALHAZARD
@THEFINALHAZARD Жыл бұрын
It's a repeating theme through history sadly.
@justandy333
@justandy333 Жыл бұрын
Yep, sadly crushes, stampedes and getting crushed under foot are all too common. In a mad panic people often only think about their own safety at the cost of others. It's not their fault, its just how our brains are wired. Some people can stay cool under pressure and override this flight response, some people have it drilled into them, but sadly its quite rare.
@gsdalpha1358
@gsdalpha1358 Жыл бұрын
@@justandy333 As someone who got caught in a stampeding crush of people, there is *nothing* you can do to stop moving. If someone falls, it won't slow down or stop a huge solid wall of people pushing forward, and it's almost hard to breath, the crushing is that bad! You can't stop or bend down to help anyone or that wall of people just moves *over* you. Thanks to that experience, I'm claustrophobic now.
@TerryFarrah
@TerryFarrah Жыл бұрын
@@gsdalpha1358 Which crush were you caught in?
@kitsunekun2345
@kitsunekun2345 Жыл бұрын
Just goes to show, you can never be complacent when you have other people's safety in your hands. Because everything is fine until it really REALLY isn't
@liesl7617
@liesl7617 Жыл бұрын
This is the incident which started my life long interest in disasters. It was featured in Readers Digest, which my grandparents received monthly, and once I read this I went through their RD back catalogue and read up on other disasters, such as the Herald of Free Enterprise. These stories always made me curious about what lessons were learned and how has it made life safer for others. I think it also gave me that 'always look for an exit' mentality that I still have today. Great coverage, as always!
@j3suisd3
@j3suisd3 11 ай бұрын
"Drama in Real Life" ... some were astinishingly gory 🤕
@de-fault_de-fault
@de-fault_de-fault Жыл бұрын
For what it’s worth the Colonial is one of dozens of named services that were mainly confined to the NEC (with some extending beyond Washington and/or branching off to Springfield instead of Boston) that are still in the timetable, just without names. They collectively came to be called Northeast Direct services in the ‘90s, then (bizarrely) Acela Regional, looking to capitalize on the popularity of the then-new Acela train sets that were providing the fast, former Metroliner services even though these services did not use those trains. Then they were just called Regionals, and more recently Northeast Regionals.
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 Жыл бұрын
Always look forward to Tuesday mornings for a dose of FH he never disappoints with his content
@nancyjones6780
@nancyjones6780 Жыл бұрын
I love Tuesday mornings when one of my favorite channels uploads like clockwork ❤❤❤
@YukariAkiyamaTanks
@YukariAkiyamaTanks Жыл бұрын
I actually met Ricky a few months ago. He still lives nearby chase in Maryland. He's a friendly guy and very remorseful
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 Жыл бұрын
Remorse will not bring back the lives the driver killed. Why do you see that ignoramus as a human being?
@queencerseilannister3519
@queencerseilannister3519 11 ай бұрын
​@nevaehhamilton3493 “We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love," Martin Luther King Jr. The guy made one of the worst mistakes a human can make, but he IS still a human. If the victims have forgiven him, then what is it your place to judge?
@nevaehhamilton3493
@nevaehhamilton3493 11 ай бұрын
@@queencerseilannister3519 forgiveness will never bring back the loved ones they lost. Forgiveness will never heal the pain from from the grief that is everlasting. Forgiveness will never fix the catastrophes created from the tragedy. Forgiveness is a sham. Forgiveness erases the accountability and responsibility for the catalyst of the tragedy. Forgiveness shows mercy to those who are unworthy of mercy.
@maximillian1109
@maximillian1109 9 ай бұрын
​@@nevaehhamilton3493Forgiveness is just as important as judgement. Do you realize how many desitions you have made that could have lead to manslaughter? People get lazy, and don’t realize the danger they put others and themselves in, and sometimes that leads to catastrophies.
@Eatinbritches
@Eatinbritches 7 ай бұрын
​@@nevaehhamilton3493 Learning from one's mistakes is a cornerstone of human nature.
@dyamonde9555
@dyamonde9555 Жыл бұрын
wow, the people in the train were insanely lucky. when i heard the number of passengers i fully expected the dead to reach triple digits.
@bemusedbandersnatch2069
@bemusedbandersnatch2069 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the design of the new cars helped some.
@phillydogsarmagameplay
@phillydogsarmagameplay 11 ай бұрын
@@bemusedbandersnatch2069 Sure they did!
@blazingfire8794
@blazingfire8794 Жыл бұрын
I grew up a couple of miles from where this happened and currently live a couple of miles from where it happened. One of my neighbors was a paramedic and his wife was a qualified medical personnel as well, they spent a lot of time there trying to help with saving people and clean up.
@artman2oo3
@artman2oo3 Жыл бұрын
The thing that had me screaming at the screen was the fact that all those safety items on the other train were purposely disabled! What kind of psychopath does this??
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul Жыл бұрын
False Alarms. What likely occurred in this situation was an alarm giving false positives and no one in the company had bothered to fix it when notified. It had then been silenced by someone who didn't want to deal with the fifteenth false signal that day. Likely why no one complained about it during the start of the shift either. Everyone knew but as the company never fixed the underlining problem of the False Alarms, why take off the tape...? Again, can not say for 100%, but when you listen to enough disaster videos: Companies not doing something about False Alarms is a massive problem!
@mememan2344
@mememan2344 Жыл бұрын
It seems that almost every time safety is disabled, it's to cut corners to save time or make something easier
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion Жыл бұрын
Capitalism.
@FRLN500
@FRLN500 Жыл бұрын
@@avgeek-and-fashion What? Crew members were responsible. How does that equate with capitalism. Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
@avgeek-and-fashion
@avgeek-and-fashion Жыл бұрын
It is not my fault that you cannot recognise the bigger picture here. We are all part of capitalism. You too. Educate yourself before being weird on the internet. I can give you a few links if you want. @@FRLN500
@davidmanley9437
@davidmanley9437 Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing of this when it happened. It is sad it takes a disaster sometimes to catch people's attention. I am glad that he changed his life and went on,and is helping with the problem now instead of adding to it
@HeronCoyote1234
@HeronCoyote1234 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me it always takes a disaster to change things.
@justandy333
@justandy333 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a line in a film, (I can't remember which film). "You can't just tap someone on their shoulder to get their attention. You have to hit them with a sledgehammer." or words to that effect. Its kinda true, Only a big disaster will make people sit up and listen. As they say most safety protocols are written in blood.
@thomasgirty6397
@thomasgirty6397 11 ай бұрын
unions need their power reduced so people who would otherwise be fired can be!!! protecting a drug or booze addict is an accident waiting to happen.
@matthew.m.stevick
@matthew.m.stevick Жыл бұрын
I watch this channels video within hours of every upload and have been subscribed since it first started during Covid. I enjoy it a lot, thanks the the creator. I really like the narrators voice and cadence.
@bethbruce7440
@bethbruce7440 Жыл бұрын
A video suggestion: the Frank slide disaster from 1903 in Alberta, Canada. Been looking all over for information & well done videos about it and it's unfortunate there aren't many.
@FormulaGuppy
@FormulaGuppy Жыл бұрын
I love fascinating horror. I doubt you read these but you’ve helped a broken mind heal over the past few years xx
@catreader9733
@catreader9733 Жыл бұрын
I have no connection with this channel, but I read your comment , and I am pleased to hear you are healing. It can be a long journey, but the start is the most important achievement. I wish for you continued progress.
@monk607
@monk607 8 ай бұрын
I was an addict for 17 years, and I've been sober for 3. People do the best with what they have and know at the time. Usually addiction forms as a coping mechanism for other trauma or issues. But people can change, and while his behavior was inexcusable, I commend him for owning his part, and making the changes he needed to, then started helping other to avoid making similar choices.
@1992marigold
@1992marigold Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. I'd like to see an episode covering the Youngstown Florida train derailment of 1978. A chlorine gas leak in the middle of s foggy night.
@tinymittensdesign
@tinymittensdesign Жыл бұрын
My dad works with CP rail monitoring signils. Drivers are supposed to check in at certain points, and if they don't or if they don't do the proper signal, he's supposed to call them up and be like "hey what's up" or if there is a malfunction, drivers can call him to troubleshoot.
@militant_daisies
@militant_daisies Жыл бұрын
just hearing the bumper music on these videos gives me the chills. I love it!
@lisadolan689
@lisadolan689 Жыл бұрын
I was on the outbound that crashed at Granville in Sydney Australia. Ptsd stopped about a decade after the incident. Still the worst train accident in Australian history
@bluegreenglue6565
@bluegreenglue6565 Жыл бұрын
Folly and tragedy, once again hand in hand. As a citizen of the Western half of the U.S., though, I have to say a whole lot of us would be thrilled to have such a useful network of railroad transport. We've got mile-long trains full of coal or cattle, but no human transportation by rail outside of tourist hops or city-specific commuter lines.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
Northeast Corridor is very much an example of while far from world class that the USA can do trains and that Americans will use them if they are frequent. Sadly those mile long trains are the problem, The freight RRs own the tracks and by law Amtrak is supposed to have full priority but the freight RRs found a loophole. Make the trains too long to fit on a siding and then they dont have to side and since the feds never regulated train length the passenger trains get the short straw.
@kettle_of_chris
@kettle_of_chris Жыл бұрын
Thank you Fascinating Horror, for all that you do!
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri Жыл бұрын
👍👍❤️
@k.c1126
@k.c1126 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I vaguely remember hearing about this crash when it happened - but didn't realize that it was determined to have been caused by the engineer of the freight train.... What a grim existence to wake up every morning knowing you had killed 16 people and injured dozens of others for a quick high...
@CLRsurfer1691
@CLRsurfer1691 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video as always. Have you ever considered covering Amtrak #188? I was on that train in 2015 and have never seen anyone cover it. It was also a NE Corridor train. Fascinating story of how positive train control was finally introduced into the NE Corridor, the only stretch of track in the United States that Amtrak owns. Thanks again for your amazing work. I always look forward to new videos from you.
@sebastianjoseph2828
@sebastianjoseph2828 Жыл бұрын
Great episode as always. I live in Maryland and take trains along the NEC fairly often- usually the Penn Line MARC trains to Washington but I've done the train trip to Boston, NYC and Philly a few times. Train travel is a breeze for convenience when you live near a station, and glad it's only gotten safer. One nitpick though: the state is pronounced "MAIR-ih-land" with the Y making a soft sound like in the word "it" or "if", not like the name Mary.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker Жыл бұрын
I took the Acela to Boston once from Philly and yeah the train beats the crap out of driving or the TSA rectal exam at PHL.
@nancycurtis7315
@nancycurtis7315 Жыл бұрын
Thank you,. I had not heard about this. Greetings from Dimboola, in Victoria, Australia 🇦🇺.
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thank you for all your efforts to inform us of these tragedies. I admit, I'm surprised the toll of this one wasn't higher, it's lucky the coaches at the front were almost empty.
@christophersuleske1905
@christophersuleske1905 Жыл бұрын
I remember this well. I was a senior in HS in the DC area. Didn't know until now it was caused by potheads.
@7JCDiva
@7JCDiva Жыл бұрын
I live in Newport News and we still have that Amtrak station..I never heard of this story until now...thanks for sharing Fascinating Horror...I look forward to your videos
@matthewheide4797
@matthewheide4797 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, AMTRAK here in Washington State is fairly popular, Seattle to Portland mostly. The high speed train that crashed in Nisqually WA was a Master Class on Operator Error.
@michaelimbesi2314
@michaelimbesi2314 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: as this collision happened, the railroad trade unions were suing the government to prevent drug and alcohol testing of railway employees who had caused accidents. The case, Skinner v. Railway Labor Executives Assn., was as the Supreme Court when the accident happened.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, it was common at the time. Even drunk driving wasn’t taken seriously. By the way, drug and alcohol testing? I think you mean drug testing. Do you think engineers have to go through a breathalyzer before starting shift?
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger Жыл бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 alcohol is one of the drug tested for in drug testing.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Жыл бұрын
@@thelogicaldanger And how would alcohol testing work? You’d literally have to show up for work drunk to fail it. Other recreational drugs stay in your system for up to a month. And can affect your system for days after you’ve taken it. Not so with alcohol
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger Жыл бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 What are you talking about? The standard drug testing is urine, and if someone is drunk, then alcohol metabolites will be in the urine, just like the metabolites for all the other drugs they test for. Random drug testing of course doesn't catch everyone, but it will catch the people who are consistently abusing.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 Жыл бұрын
@@thelogicaldanger If you had alcohol the night before, there is absolutely no regulation, saying that’s a problem. You could do a blood alcohol test or a breathalyzer.
@le4858
@le4858 10 ай бұрын
I grew up a mile from the crash site, I remember it well. My old neighbor used to Ricky Gates speaking at AA meetings frequently in nearby Essex. My understanding is that this incident not only ushered in random drug testing for railway workers but also police and fire.
@roxannlegg750
@roxannlegg750 Жыл бұрын
Each week I really look forward to your videos. Well researched, narrated and presented. And the background musicis so cool, and become iconic to your channel. Each incident you present is interesting, sad and tragic, but interesting, and given we are in Australia, we get to learn much about whats happened in the worlld over time. Thankyou!
@Ozymandias1
@Ozymandias1 Жыл бұрын
It's good that these things are remembered. In my country there was a rail collision between two trains in which 24 people died which was completely forgotten until the 25th anniversary in 2011, then people thought "oh yeah, that happened" and it was the subject of some newspaper articles and a television programme. It had happened on the national day of remembrance which is why it didn't get much attention over the years. I lived nearby so I once visited the location.
@sallykohorst8803
@sallykohorst8803 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this story and can't imagine going 105 miles an hour and hitting another train head on. So horrible the way the cars all buckled up. RIP THE ONES WHO DID NOT SURVIVE.. i really love train travel.
@danielabackstrom
@danielabackstrom Жыл бұрын
They were travelling in the same direction
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri
@MaryDoyle-xl2ri Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏❤️
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 Жыл бұрын
This is why people need to understand that weed, what is now legal in some states, can still cause problems if not used properly. Its the same with alcohol. Use it responsibly.
@ct6502-c7w
@ct6502-c7w 10 ай бұрын
I despise potheads. It isn't "harmless" like they try to claim, and this disaster is just one of countless examples that proves it.
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 10 ай бұрын
@ct92404 plus weed stays in your system longer then alcohol
@ehfik
@ehfik 8 ай бұрын
there was a huge train accident in germany, few years ago... the operator played on his cell phone... its about ATTENTION
@christopherjohnson5236
@christopherjohnson5236 5 ай бұрын
​@@ehfik same what happened in Chatsworth, CA in 2008, where the engineer was texting while driving
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 Жыл бұрын
After 20 years in maryland, i have gone from pronouncing it as mary-land to mer-i-lan
@chrisdoyon7556
@chrisdoyon7556 Жыл бұрын
Had you been born there, you could make the final step to ‘merlin’
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdoyon7556 haha actually it is very similar... I say them both out loud and they sound the same. I've been here long enough I say hon... Idk when I started
@andrewostman3135
@andrewostman3135 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisdoyon7556 the -i- to me is soft. No pause so more like merilan said fast
@meikel1492
@meikel1492 Жыл бұрын
YOOOOO this is right near me i’m so happy someone’s covering it
@DDE_ADDICT
@DDE_ADDICT Жыл бұрын
I like this channel. I wish he posted more often.
@esta8651
@esta8651 Жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@thelogicaldanger
@thelogicaldanger Жыл бұрын
It takes a lot of time to do quality posts. I prefer quality over quantity.
@805Peej
@805Peej Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Can you cover the Chatsworth Amtrak crash of 2008?
@richardwartsbaugh5553
@richardwartsbaugh5553 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. Any chance you could do a vid about non-fatal accidents but with lots of injured? Sometime the lack of a fatality makes bad things seem better than they were.
@charliehustle5529
@charliehustle5529 Жыл бұрын
I lived 10 minutes away from where that accident was. I can still remember that day. People trapped pinned in the wreckage half alive, half dead. It was unbelievable. I was working at an apartment complex close by too the accident
@danipung5761
@danipung5761 8 ай бұрын
"Shrill" showed me that people with beautiful accents always say "Maryland" in such an elegant way. You didn't disappoint 🤩
@tylerbeltran8782
@tylerbeltran8782 Жыл бұрын
That was well done. Do you think you could also do a video on the 2009 DC metro crash?
@x77punk77x
@x77punk77x Жыл бұрын
^Seconding
@ceciliaSF-TX
@ceciliaSF-TX Жыл бұрын
It took a long time for this country to take ‘drinking on the job’ serious. This is in ‘87, likely somebody knew of the issue & just looked the other way. The ‘good ole boy’ thing is still going on today!
@graymonk5972
@graymonk5972 11 ай бұрын
i’m from maryland and even still we talk about this i’m 20 so obviously i wasn’t alive at the time of the crash but i was taking the amtrak to georgia one time and my teacher talked about the chase train crash
@jameskubajak8489
@jameskubajak8489 10 ай бұрын
Because of this crash, Conrail from that point to it's 1999 split pulled most of their freight trains of the NEC. Because of this move, the Potomac Yard (across the Potomac River from DC) became a victim of this shift. Known locally as the POT Yard, it's services were no longer needed. Today, DC Metro has a station stop there to remind people what was once there!😔
@ericallen371
@ericallen371 Жыл бұрын
There was a deadly train crash in my city yesterday. It fell off an overpass crushing a truck.
@QueenRenne
@QueenRenne Жыл бұрын
I was only 5 years old when this horrible accident happened. I always loved seeing the Amtrak Trains and still do. I’m glad Justice was served and REGULATIONS were put into place. 💯👀💅🏾
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I worked at a theme park running rides, including rollercoasters and little kiddie's rides. I also liked to party and particularly liked smoking weed. That said, I wouldn't dream of operating a ride with kids on it while high. I'd work the bar of a pub while stoned, I was even a projectionist running old cinema equipment and was regularly high there, but where you're responsible for other peoples' safety, that's a big no. Both these guys deserved a long prison sentence.
@jasinere35
@jasinere35 Жыл бұрын
5 years was a bit of a kick in the teeth especially since they caused the crash they should have both got sentenced & being more than 5 years aswell
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 Жыл бұрын
@@jasinere35 I'm pretty sure they'd get closer to 10 years here in the UK where it would be manslaughter. Maybe with good behaviour they'd serve closer to 5 years in the end anyway, but given the criminal negligence and the scale of the disaster, it clearly justifies maximum sentence. And the idea of one getting off scot free so he can secure the conviction of the other, that's just horrendous. Both are equally guilty and should be treated as such.
@reddwarfer999
@reddwarfer999 Жыл бұрын
@ongbonga9025 I would have sacked you in an instant for that.
@ongbonga9025
@ongbonga9025 Жыл бұрын
@@reddwarfer999 You'd have sacked me for not getting high? You sound like a great boss.
@reddwarfer999
@reddwarfer999 Жыл бұрын
@@ongbonga9025 I would have sacked you for getting high working in the pub and as a projectionist, just as you said you did.
@Straswa
@Straswa Жыл бұрын
Great vid FH. RIP to all the victims and condolences to their families.
@AH-sp8vi
@AH-sp8vi Жыл бұрын
Ah yes that time of the week. Thank you FH!
@DaughteroftheMostHighGod-h6c
@DaughteroftheMostHighGod-h6c 3 ай бұрын
Well, so much for no ads!
@colettechauvin6464
@colettechauvin6464 Жыл бұрын
Allô, if i may ask you to make a vidio about the Lake Mégantic in the province of Québec Canada. Was a real and still in our memories from the desaster. Thank you so much for all your work.
@SassyKaren68
@SassyKaren68 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Maryland when this happened, and I still remember it clearly.
@skelly4998
@skelly4998 Жыл бұрын
Why was the lady stepping on that man?
@gregggoss2210
@gregggoss2210 Жыл бұрын
And by the way, it is pronounced " mareland " , not Mary land. And wasn't the location Chevy Chase Maryland?
@SassyKaren68
@SassyKaren68 Жыл бұрын
@@gregggoss2210 it actually did happen in Chase, Maryland.
@BNO-4333
@BNO-4333 Жыл бұрын
@@gregggoss2210 Chevy Chase is a DC suburb. Chase is an unincorporated area north of Baltimore and along the Gunpowder River
@sandraallen8832
@sandraallen8832 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing - just sat down with a cuppa- lovely ☺️
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids Жыл бұрын
This is like that guy who passes you and then slams on the brakes...
@joshuaevans5983
@joshuaevans5983 Жыл бұрын
We’ll done. Interesting to hear it pronounced Mary-land. On this side of the pond most people would say something like Mare-ih-lund.
@tremorsfan
@tremorsfan Жыл бұрын
If you haven't done it, I would like to see you do an episode on the CSX 8888 runaway train incident.
@annegoodreau4925
@annegoodreau4925 Жыл бұрын
Does it seem to anyone else that a lot of these disasters happen right around the holidays - Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve, etc.? Is there a tendency for more negligence then? Or do we remember those better because it is so poignant when the passengers never get home for Christmas or see the new year they've just been celebrating?
@michael7054
@michael7054 Жыл бұрын
The 2004 Mega Tsunami happened around Christmas too.
@PANZERFAUST322
@PANZERFAUST322 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a combination of a lot of people traveling, occasionally companies overbooking to make more money and we remember tragedies associated with big events a lot more. In any case it's very tragic to think about being in a mindset of getting to enjoy life only to have it cut short by factors beyond one's control.
@doubleyoupea9391
@doubleyoupea9391 12 күн бұрын
I used to work on trains for Amtrak. This is the reason why the IETMS system was developed.
@ScarletTermite
@ScarletTermite Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video! I enjoy your channel very much!
@eileenbauer4601
@eileenbauer4601 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an interesting and informative video. The funny thing is, I’m from this area of Maryland. However, at the time of this crash, I had been living abroad. This was the first time I’ve ever heard of it! I did move back to Maryland after 5 years, by which time I suppose the story had died down. The internet at its best, learning things I missed while abroad!
@RobPeoples27
@RobPeoples27 Жыл бұрын
That one guy said that a woman trampled him. Do you think it would hurt if a woman tramples anyone?
@ctradio4416
@ctradio4416 10 ай бұрын
You’ve got a really nice presenting voice and I’m enjoying your videos well done
@kimjohnson7818
@kimjohnson7818 8 ай бұрын
I was supposed to take this train but I overslept and planned to take the next train. When we got to the New Carrollton station they would not tell us what happened. They just said the track was closed and we could take a very long bus ride to NYC. We went back to a restaurant/bar in Annapolis and my ride had a brother driving up to NY that night. When we walked into the bar everyone was wide eyed and said my parents had been calling to see if anyone knew if I had been on the train. I had recently moved to NYC and was visiting my family home and friends in and near Annapolis. I had work. downtown the next morning. My parents were gone on a ski trip and were very worried.
@PhilAndersonOutside
@PhilAndersonOutside 10 ай бұрын
Another excellent video. Thanks for sharing!
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel Жыл бұрын
I thought it was horrendous that he only served 4 years for that, until it was mentioned that he came clean and became a counselor. ☑️
@mikepalmer1971
@mikepalmer1971 Жыл бұрын
How does that absolve him of his crime?
@patriciamariemitchel
@patriciamariemitchel Жыл бұрын
@@mikepalmer1971, it doesn't absolve him. But isn't the purpose of incarceration partly for rehabilitation?
@mikepalmer1971
@mikepalmer1971 Жыл бұрын
There is such a thing as punishment as well. He killed many people and ruined many families. Serving a short sentence means nothing. He is lucky someone has not avenged their lost family members.
@goonmaster9000
@goonmaster9000 Жыл бұрын
@@patriciamariemitchel I wonder if youd feel the same way if you were on that train, or if one of your loved ones died in the incident This was a failure of justice - guy should have been locked up for life, simple as that
@MilesL.auto-train4013
@MilesL.auto-train4013 10 ай бұрын
​@@goonmaster9000 This is the second most asinine comment I've read so far. He was let out for good behavior and did everything he possibly could to atone for his sins, and is doing it quite well actually. If he had shown no remorse, then it would be a different story. But he paid for his consequences and learned from them, and is actively helping to improve his and other's lives. You pretend that personal growth is non-existent. Your cruelty is absurd.
@alanaindovina9917
@alanaindovina9917 Жыл бұрын
Omg I was not expecting my small va town to be part of this video 😲😂
@danc3488
@danc3488 11 ай бұрын
Only served 4 years for killing 16 people and recklessly endangering the rest while under the influence. Really... When I became a volunteer firefighter in 2000, we went over the rescue operations of this crash. I remember being horrified by the pictures and videos of this. This crash led to a lot of rescue tool companies like Holmatro (aka Jaws of Life) to start designing tools that were capable of cutting into the heavy stainless steel of railcars. Today, many of these tools apply well over 60,000 pounds of hydraulic cutting and spreading pressure, and battery-powered saws contain heavy metal cutting blades capable of breaking through the steel and the heavy glass windows. Rescue procedures for rail accidents have greatly changed in the last 30+ years. Sadly, as often happens in emergency services, people have to die for something to effectively change.
@carlstenger5893
@carlstenger5893 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Thank you!
@juliestevens6931
@juliestevens6931 Жыл бұрын
I remember this. I lived in Northern Virginia at the time and it was all over the news. I was 30 at the time so it really stayed with me.
@sharonsmith583
@sharonsmith583 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this one before. Really horrifying!
@mspetersen
@mspetersen Жыл бұрын
Ricky Gates is a name known to most railroaders of that time period. If anything positive came out of this, drug & alcohol abuse among railroad employees was taken seriously once Federal testing was mandated. Unfortunately younger employees aren't aware of this and don't grasp this is why railroads now drug test. Some companies claim they do, but railroads actually do it as it mandated.
@ressljs
@ressljs Жыл бұрын
I'm glad he got himself turned around and works to do good, but it surprises me that engineers responsible for fatal crashes aren't hit with harsher penalties. If you killed 16 people due to drunk/high driving, you'd be in much worse trouble. And that Bostian guy who sent his train flying off the tracks in 2015, killing eight, injuring well over 100 and had no explanation why was completely let off. I don't mean to sound out for blood, but I don't see how you can do something like that, say "stuff happens," and just walk away.
@mspetersen
@mspetersen Жыл бұрын
@@ressljs The FRA has no authority over criminal matters. That’s up to the discretion of the local DA and few seem willing to pursue that avenue. Not the first time a crew member has been responsible for a someone’s death from negligence and wasn’t held accountable criminally. What most train crew don’t realize is that their Union Dues don’t cover criminal matters. If you were to get charged your on your own financially.
@bilindalaw-morley161
@bilindalaw-morley161 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the most shocking of the events you portray so well. And the "punishment" would be laughable if it wasn't so disrespectful to victims.
@vivalapita8484
@vivalapita8484 Жыл бұрын
Here we go, train signals!! XD Love when you upload!
@justlurkingthrough6267
@justlurkingthrough6267 Жыл бұрын
I literally got an Amtrak ad before this video. Good lord.
@LordWiggle
@LordWiggle Жыл бұрын
So when you commit a crime with someone else, whee you're equally responsible, you just tell on the other one and are free to go? How?!? That's so stupid, how corrupt is the system?
@JoeyLovesTrains
@JoeyLovesTrains 9 ай бұрын
1:40 the night owl was recently brought back, and then quickly went away again..
@Elliottblancher
@Elliottblancher Жыл бұрын
Even though people have already made videos on this incident, its still interesting telling it in a different way
@roccocoyote
@roccocoyote Жыл бұрын
the intro music alone makes me give a 👍
@ivanopher7803
@ivanopher7803 8 ай бұрын
I have worked at the chase fire station the pictures they have are wild!!!!!
@Isabeau8394
@Isabeau8394 Жыл бұрын
I remember this accident, for I live in MD.. it was four years after I graduated HS.
@anonemous1046
@anonemous1046 8 ай бұрын
Aside from corporate liability another theme of Fascinating Horror's videos is safety rules are written in blood.
@aravenlunatic9028
@aravenlunatic9028 11 ай бұрын
Industry wide safety standards never change until catastrophic tragedy forces alterations to or the implementation of improved procedures. The health,safety, and lives of innocent people aren't as important as companies' reputations and profit margins.
@brenlane9847
@brenlane9847 Жыл бұрын
I work for a state workers compensation company. This year in conjunction with our Safety Services team we're going to run Fascinating Horror episodes via Zoom, and in the office. I can't think of a more devilish way for the industry to present work place accidents. P.S. To the narrator of this marvolus series, your voice sounds nearly identically to the actor, Harry Floyd, who played Viserys Targaryen in Game of Thrones. (Season 1)
@TickingClocks
@TickingClocks Жыл бұрын
I went to the school you mentioned at the end and am shocked I've never heard of this! While I think the one who was charged got off a bit too easy, I'm stunned that the other guy got no time at all. RIP to those poor souls.
@ericzerkle8486
@ericzerkle8486 11 ай бұрын
I remember this very well. Not long after, Conrail removed all freight off the NEC .
@188tate
@188tate Жыл бұрын
It’s pronounced maraland not Mary Land lol! Great videos guys, keep up the good work!!!
@MrRight80
@MrRight80 Жыл бұрын
just having The Chase Train Collision in the title is good enough
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