The Camelford Poisoning | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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@PistachioDean
@PistachioDean 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Gaslighting a whole town to save face. I feel for the lady who took all the calls too, she must have felt so guilty, after going against her gut feeling in the end.
@joshgellis3292
@joshgellis3292 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, in America- there's a gigantic (and actually, rightfully so- at least in the 90s,) amount of movies and even cable channels of American women doing the right thing to help- and they were: threatened termination, lost friends or even put in mental institutions for simply *_*standing their ground with facts when they knew that they were right._** 🥲🦅🇺🇸🤍🦆🇬🇧
@SkycometAnimeVamp
@SkycometAnimeVamp Жыл бұрын
I’m betting all the “studies” they did were purposely designed to find the water “safe”
@ripwednesdayadams
@ripwednesdayadams Жыл бұрын
This shit happens all the time in the US too. One current example is in St. Louis. There has been an underground fire burning at a dump where nuclear waste from the Manhattan project was illegally dumped. Several years ago, the fire was 700 feet from the nuclear waste. This is in a residential area, there is no plan to relocate the residents and there are extremely high number of cases of cancer especially in children. The EPA and the owners of the landfill keep insisting there is no danger despite all evidence to the contrary. People who live there have to be ready to flee at any time in case the fire meets the nuclear waste. HBO did a documentary about it called “Atomic Homefront” a few years ago but I hardly ever hear anything about it. If you live in the US look up how many superfund sites are in your area. It’s terrifying.
@skylar9450
@skylar9450 Жыл бұрын
When they said it was because of "Anxiety" i could sense the bullshit.
@jonslg240
@jonslg240 10 ай бұрын
It's funny how many British people believe the US govt is more shady than their own. It's also funny how during both world wars they expected the US to come to their rescue for free - when the US had to fight a massive war just to get themselves out from under the exploitation of the British.
@watchesfromedges
@watchesfromedges 2 жыл бұрын
I lived just outside of the affected area in North Cornwall. The cause of the incident was known very quickly but the effects met with denial and obfuscation from the start. For years people who had health issues as a result were treated with suspicion by the GP's, the possible long term effects were denied and there were some very questionable and intimidating approaches to the idea of compensation. It's good to see this incident covered like this and made known to a wider audience, thank you.
@Yosenku
@Yosenku 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thats horrible! I hope this comes to light
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yosenku Uh............. It has come to light? I mean, didn't you just watch a video about exactly what happened?
@clray123
@clray123 2 жыл бұрын
Try complaining to your GP about effects of a certain va*cine nowadays.
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@clray123 Why would you even take it? It's totally worthless, you can still get sick, and you can still get others sick. It's a total scam by big pharm. Also, whats with the cryptic spelling, lol? Just wire vaccine, lol. Sacre of the bogeyman? lol.
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@clray123 Try seeing a GP. (and they want a 30% pay rise)
@SoundShunter72
@SoundShunter72 2 жыл бұрын
Regardless of the severity of these disasters, what always gets me is the extensive cover up/denial efforts made by those responsible. Really makes my blood boil.
@dx1450
@dx1450 Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was "There's absolutely nothing wrong with the water at all... but you might want to mix it with orange juice to cover up the bad taste..."
@hmac7187
@hmac7187 Жыл бұрын
The water is safe to drink but may cause hair greening
@advena996
@advena996 Жыл бұрын
Right? Incidents like this make one less likely to trust the government when they issue public health statements regarding exposures in general.
@WobblesandBean
@WobblesandBean Жыл бұрын
I'm so angry that I think I need to get offline for a bit. I can't say the things I want to do to every single member of the water authority without youtube deleting my comment.
@mobilephil244
@mobilephil244 5 ай бұрын
Yes, "managers" are always good at blame-avoidance and credit-hijacking. Don't you just love "managers".
@ChristianXRockXLover
@ChristianXRockXLover 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, a series of livestock and wildlife deaths, caused by hysteria of the townspeople as these things usually are. 🙄 I'm disgusted by the Water Authority's handling of things but even more so by the continued lies and deception. In any case, if someone reports BLACK water coming out of their tap, you probably should investigate BEFORE you tell people that water is safe.
@evegreenification
@evegreenification 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@janetcw9808
@janetcw9808 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@ridesq
@ridesq 2 жыл бұрын
The Cecil Hotel would like a word with you. [i know the staff looked into the issue immediately, it just sounded good]
@novaangle2183
@novaangle2183 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of doctors will just call your illness all in your head or just anxiety if they can't figure it out super quick because your problems don't fit into their easy to diagnose boxes. I don't trust anyone really with my health anymore after how I've been treated. The water facility here in my city will often have problems or suddenly dirt and stuff will come out of faucets and they will just tell us to boil the water. Yea, no thank you.
@inklingofadream
@inklingofadream 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly seems like the kind of thing that these people's grandkids and the handful of remaining folks who, god forbid, had their formula mixed with the contaminated water as infants, will be receiving the compensation for. It's just going to take until everyone with a personal stake in the administrative side is gone and their positions are occupied by people who aren't super hostile to the idea of ever giving compensation for anything... so a long time
@ClefairyRox
@ClefairyRox 2 жыл бұрын
I studied water treatment in college as part of my environmental engineering program and the blood drained from my face when I saw this man had unknowingly dumped alum into the contact tank instead of the mix tank. Of course, you do not need an environmental engineering degree to realize that this is VERY bad, and Fascinating Horror did a great job of explaining alum's role in treatment. The real issue here though, is the insane negligence of the authorities. Telling people to drink this obviously contaminated water for DAYS ON END and even AFTER THEY KNEW WHAT WAS WRONG was disgusting. I can't even blame the driver who dumped the alum for this; he was given so little instruction on what to do.
@enemyofthestatewearein7945
@enemyofthestatewearein7945 2 жыл бұрын
Your observations are on point and IIRC what was reported at the time, the tanker driver was used as something of a scapegoat after this incident. Perhaps that was just the media but it was convenient for the water authority in covering their much deeper negligence.
@sylverscale
@sylverscale 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone may have made the same mistake he did. Who would think that they have a general key for all tanks?
@_Circus_Clapped_
@_Circus_Clapped_ 2 жыл бұрын
if something is wrong, tell them to do it first as a demonstration, if they don't do the simple task of doing it for the public; they won't and have never cared enough to do things properly.
@ottovonbasedmark
@ottovonbasedmark 2 жыл бұрын
@@enemyofthestatewearein7945 i am in no way an expert on any of these topics, but i say the tanker driver is not at fault. it doesnt take much expertise to know how one key to unlock every door/valve/manhole is bound to lead to accidents. then, he was told "the tank on the left" in this maze of different pipes and again, his key fitting every single lock. he couldnt have known better, he was probably a replacement for the usual driver and didnt even know anything about water processing or this particular site. the entire blame should go to the executives of the water company, as they created and upheld a system that was inevitably leading to minor or major accidents like this one.
@ladyabaxa
@ladyabaxa 2 жыл бұрын
@@ottovonbasedmark One key that can unlock ANY tank. ZERO labeling on anything. NO ONE around to supervise an inherently dangerous procedure. A facility that anyone can enter at any time. No alarms or sensors to detect the contamination of water about to be sent out or that the tank containing it had been accessed when it shouldn't have. It's not a surprise there was an accident - conditions made that inevitable. This is critical infrastructure treated like an expendable afterthought. Then the authorities completely bungled their handling of the whole affair. Clearly they were concerned only with covering their own collective asses rather than making sure people aren't harmed by their incompetence. Municipal water supplies should be safe and reliable but shit like this undermines public confidence in that water supply. The result is people shifting to buying bottled water which pumps more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere (manufacture and transport) and produces even more plastic waste - waste that is now itself a major contaminate of water supplies around the world. And yes he was a replacement. He's described as a "relief driver" in the video.
@kingarthur5110
@kingarthur5110 2 жыл бұрын
What baffles me in a lot of these incidents is the blasé attitude the people in charge have to the emerging situation. You've suddenly got a flurry of calls complaining the water is discolored, smells weird and is having odd effects. Presumably this is a completely unusual and concerning event for the company, not something that happens every day, and they're just like 'Yeah, it's probably fine. Tell people they can still drink it'. If that were me, I'd immediately be dispatching people to figure out the cause and telling anyone that called not to drink the water until we had figured out the problem. A simple thing to do. It's so infuriating hearing stories of major incidents that were caused by people not giving a solitary shit about their responsibilities.
@majungasaurusaaaa
@majungasaurusaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Public employees for ya. If that was a private company they'd be taking action ASAP to mitigate the legal and financial damage. Gov agencies like these can always count on being covered up for.
@briantitchener4829
@briantitchener4829 Жыл бұрын
@@majungasaurusaaaa This Water Authority was privatised a year later in '89.
@michaellorah9051
@michaellorah9051 10 ай бұрын
​@@majungasaurusaaaa i have seen enough examples of private companies doing the same. It all boils down to greed and ego. We cant lose money and we cant be seen as at fault for this.
@Halinspark
@Halinspark 10 ай бұрын
@@majungasaurusaaaa The multiple incidents with Boeing and the 737 rudder controls say otherwise.
@StrazdasLT
@StrazdasLT 9 ай бұрын
@@majungasaurusaaaa If it was a private company they would hire private detectives to beat people into not making their complains public.
@runescapestats534
@runescapestats534 2 жыл бұрын
I work for a water utility we have unique locks for each tank along with labels. Additionally we don’t give out the keys to drivers. One of our staff members meets each delivery and verifies the chemical being delivered before removing the lock
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 2 жыл бұрын
@Madame d'Badger it was 1988 so possibly unmarked tanks was the norm...? I didn't need to wear a high viz jacket until 1999...
@Colaholiker
@Colaholiker 2 жыл бұрын
That is how it is supposed to be. Theoretically, a sample of each delivered product should also be drawn and sent to a lab to ensure it is a) the right product and b) meets the "food grade" (or whatever the proper term in English is, it's not my native language) specifications. After all, the delivery papers can say it is food grade aluminium sulphate (or however this is spelled), and the place where the tanker was loaded actually put something completely different in there.
@St.Linguini_of_Pesto
@St.Linguini_of_Pesto 2 жыл бұрын
@Runescape State that's how all such facilities should be operated.. especially concerning water to accessed by many communities, for numerous uses. This definitely wasn't the last incident.. there have been, unfortunately, many more tragedies similar to this. Those in "power" should be ashamed, but they just keep on wrecking lives.
@runescapestats534
@runescapestats534 2 жыл бұрын
@Madame d'Badger I would say not directly since prior to 2016 we received chemicals a bit differently. Chlorine came in cylinders fluoride and phosphate came in barrels and so on. Now everything is a pump off directly into the building and since then we’ve had the policy that: operator makes contact with driver, verifys the c of a, inspects placard on truck or tote,signs bill of lading, verifies all locks in place, unlocks correct tank, watches tank begin to fill to ensure no leaks
@runescapestats534
@runescapestats534 2 жыл бұрын
@@St.Linguini_of_Pesto I’m perplexed as to how their plant is set up to allow finished water storage (what we call our clear well) to be mistaken for the hookup to a tank. Our clear well is located below a locked hatch behind a locked door. Even if all of our safeties failed, chemical could theoretically end up inside the wrong tank, but not in the clear well
@REIDAE
@REIDAE 2 жыл бұрын
"It's safe to drink" "It turned my hair green" "It's all in your heads" "My hair is literally green" "I assure you, it's just your imagination"
@Sombody123
@Sombody123 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't trust your lying eyes. Or your anyone else's who agrees with you."
@davela79
@davela79 2 жыл бұрын
"Where are the ends of your hair located?" "In my head" "My point exactly ... case closed"
@a-b0t633
@a-b0t633 2 жыл бұрын
"My guinea pigs died!" "Your guinea pigs were psychosomatic."
@grimesdaughter9042
@grimesdaughter9042 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like some whacky dialogue from Dr. Who in conversation with an alien 😂
@aerielblair8333
@aerielblair8333 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the literal aluminium build-up in their brains... Insanity.
@davidedwards6473
@davidedwards6473 2 жыл бұрын
I moved to the area as a child and even now I remember how upset people were that it remained with me. The locals used to tell me about green curdled tea and fear to trust the water supply lasted for many years. I don’t think it has ever been forgotten by those remaining in the area. The negligence and lack of apology and acceptance of error is frankly both disgusting and horrifying..
@dr.cliche7560
@dr.cliche7560 2 жыл бұрын
If the water curled the milk in my tea, I doubt I'd drink it regardless of what assurances the water authority gave me.
@lifeloverNorris
@lifeloverNorris 2 жыл бұрын
The water company is definitely at fault, but I'm also puzzled how guillable those people are. I would stop using the water entirely if it appears slightly brown, and these people had water that appears and does even more crazy shit.
@foggyfrogy
@foggyfrogy 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifeloverNorris i'm sure most stopped to drink it but at some point you have to bath, drink water and cook...
@gingercube688
@gingercube688 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how the water authority could argue that was psychosomatic 🤔
@mquietsch6736
@mquietsch6736 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely. I'd change over to store-bought water entirely, even if it meant I'd have to go unwashed for some time. I'm certainly not going to bathe in anything that so clearly is not clean. 😬
@melissag9160
@melissag9160 2 жыл бұрын
This was the 80s, so cheap bottled water wasn't readily available, and this little town looks to be out in the middle of nowhere. They likely had no choice. Sort of like folks with low income in Flint, Michigan, who had no choice but to drink water from the lead pipes. As consumers, we're all at the mercy of the corporations. Who really knows what's in bottled water these days?
@VanK782
@VanK782 2 жыл бұрын
Such disgusting negligence. And one of the few cases on this channel where nothing was done to remedy the issue.
@Nostripe361
@Nostripe361 2 жыл бұрын
Why was no one on site when that trucker came to deliver the compound? Not even a guard to keep out vagrants , animals, or possibly terrorists?
@anhondacivic6541
@anhondacivic6541 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nostripe361 or hell, why wasn't the tanks labelled
@chatteyj
@chatteyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@anhondacivic6541 You can bet they are today, the driver wouldn't even be allowed on site without a high vis jacket, might even have to fill out a risk assessment form first before unloading.
@GrunOne
@GrunOne 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have given the local authorities glasses of the water to drink on camera if they were sure it was so safe!
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the cases are like this. The lack of accountability is a universal trait through these stories.
@manofmagic1803
@manofmagic1803 2 жыл бұрын
Its in no way the man who delivered the tank's fault, he was given vague instructions. Given a key to open EVERYTHING. Whoever hired him is to fault for given him the key and the poor instructions.
@bernlin2000
@bernlin2000 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he was at fault: he couldn't identify the tank that was for precursors. So he should have gotten help. Instead, he winged it. "The tank on the left" is not valid instructions. I also work as a delivery driver...for food. If the instructions you're given don't make sense, you leave the goods at the door. You don't make up your own rules.
@elisejackson2854
@elisejackson2854 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@BB-uo1qy
@BB-uo1qy Жыл бұрын
All tanks should have been labelled properly like they are required to be now
@thedeviouspanda
@thedeviouspanda Жыл бұрын
​@@shepherdboy9692 Shouldn't there have been at least one person at work that day? Why was no one there?
@ihavenoideawhatimdoingwith4240
@ihavenoideawhatimdoingwith4240 Жыл бұрын
@@bernlin2000 There was no one to find, no way to contact anyone, and there was a possibility to lose his job by not doing this. He assumed because there were things at risk, and because no one was there to question. It's an "everyone's at fault" if anything.
@dashippo
@dashippo 2 жыл бұрын
Literally doesn't matter if a single person got sick...the entire water treatment process should have been overhauled and those in charge replaced. It's inexcusable to have this level of negligence and complacency for such a crucial system.
@SouthsideHardhead601
@SouthsideHardhead601 Жыл бұрын
No indicators on the tanks and a "universal" key..like wtf🤯🤯
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 Жыл бұрын
The problem though is that this means shutting off the plant and shutting off people's water supply. That's a hugely expensive process that causes a lot of disruption and if it's a false alarm causes a lot of backlash.
@Propanesucka
@Propanesucka 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with long-term health problems caused by contaminated tap water, I can only begin to imagine what these people went through. "People are sick and dying." "Nah, it's all in your heads. Those dead fish and the aluminum contamination? You imagined those too."
@josephnickell6652
@josephnickell6652 2 жыл бұрын
What was the contaminate if I may ask?
@Propanesucka
@Propanesucka 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephnickell6652 DuPont's C8 (perfluorooctanoic acid) dumping in Parkersburg, WV. There's a fantastic documentary about it called The Devil We Know. My immediate family and most of the people I grew up with have been ravaged by cancer and debilitating gastrointestinal problems... all in the name of cheaper non-stick cooking pans.
@josephnickell6652
@josephnickell6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@Propanesucka Thank you for sharing. Living in Dayton Ohio, I remember that incident well because it was rather close to where I live.
@williamdraken6018
@williamdraken6018 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get compensation for that? Sorry to hear it.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
The first line of defense all bureaucrats use to diffuse public anger
@isabellaangeline2175
@isabellaangeline2175 2 жыл бұрын
Every time they insist the water was safe to drink, I think about that scene in Erin Brockovich where the water company worker was told the water she had taken a drink of was brought in special for her from the area that was contaminated.
@10thkingdomgirl
@10thkingdomgirl Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I kept thinking of Erin Brockovich when watching this too. Seems this town didn't really get any resolution though 😢
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 2 жыл бұрын
"We have investigated ourselves and determined that there was nothing wrong." I like that they don't tell you what they consider "safe" either. Gotta keep the population in the dark about everything.
@QT5656
@QT5656 2 жыл бұрын
Typical behaviour from a private company public services.
@AzureLupine
@AzureLupine 2 жыл бұрын
Acceptable drinking water guidelines/criteria should be readily available in your area. As an example here Al has a limit of 50ppb.
@planescaped
@planescaped 2 жыл бұрын
The classic.
@EmmaDilemma039
@EmmaDilemma039 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, as long as the CEOs didn't have to drink the contaminated water, everything was fine.
@fridayfaye
@fridayfaye 2 жыл бұрын
"Activision/Blizzard has cleared ActivisionBlizzard of any wrongdoing" type of shit.
@carolinehoward180
@carolinehoward180 2 жыл бұрын
I lived about 6 miles away at the time and our water was affected. I knew people who were seriously affected by this. They were ridiculed by their doctors, shamed by SWW and left to deal with the consequences unsupported. Both myself and my daughter went on to develop auto immune problems and I can’t rule this out as a catalyst for that.,
@jazzmanny02
@jazzmanny02 Жыл бұрын
IF you read the book medical medium there a lot of good protocols on how to get metals out of the body there is a way to do that, you don't have to be stuck to your fate, really its worth a read.
@CanMan125_
@CanMan125_ Жыл бұрын
Look into heavy metal detoxification. Also important to support your gut health with probiotics.
@CutieRingoJoy
@CutieRingoJoy Жыл бұрын
You drink out of tap ? I always filter my water to drink
@jazzmanny02
@jazzmanny02 Жыл бұрын
@@CanMan125_ Yup exactly very important
@Yung-plague
@Yung-plague Жыл бұрын
@@CutieRingoJoy fella this happened in 1988 maybe you missed that part
@Dancingontgesun1942
@Dancingontgesun1942 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that nobody was fired over this is shocking.
@jonathanhawkins2227
@jonathanhawkins2227 Жыл бұрын
Probably given bigger bonuses
@JChang0114
@JChang0114 Жыл бұрын
Those in charge should have been subject to community justice.
@jacquiwinter6282
@jacquiwinter6282 2 жыл бұрын
Two words: Flint, Michigan. Entirely different scenario, but another frustrating, negligent case of lack of action with contaminated drinking water provided to the masses. Thank you for highlighting this North Cornwall case. 👏🏼
@muskyman1018
@muskyman1018 2 жыл бұрын
I almost find Flint worse because a bunch of people embezzled federal funds sent “fix” the problems.
@anufoalan
@anufoalan 2 жыл бұрын
Most reservations in Canada and the US too, the government is supposed to provide clean water most are under boil water advisories and some are so bad their water looks like tar
@Unownshipper
@Unownshipper 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of it too.
@johncameron2241
@johncameron2241 2 жыл бұрын
There first mistake was taking water from the Flint river. That watershed drains farmers fields.
@colincampbell767
@colincampbell767 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the Flint water agency took water from that source was because that was all they could afford. The root cause of the problem was a city policy that they cannot shut people's water off for nonpayment. As a result, the water company started running out of money and had to cut costs wherever they could.
@kgoulding1237
@kgoulding1237 2 жыл бұрын
This does worry me, at my work so many of the processes are out-of-date, and I bet many other organisations have ineffective and old processes that need updating.
@nickc3657
@nickc3657 2 жыл бұрын
Where do you work?
@EvanBear
@EvanBear 2 жыл бұрын
Please report those out of date processes to your manager or, if they do not listen, report them to the HSE/OSHA depending on where you live. As a worker you have a duty to point out unsafe process management, for your safety and the safety of others.
@Zulf85
@Zulf85 2 жыл бұрын
This stresses me out as our local council - on the other side of the country - dump some sort of antiseptic or something in the water occasionally and assume we don't notice despite it tasting bad and affecting our stomachs. We've taken to drinking tap water often when they do this, which isn't cheap. I suspect if rhis happened, we'd assume they were at it again.
@GoodPersonTestWebsite
@GoodPersonTestWebsite 2 жыл бұрын
@@EvanBear this !
@potato1907
@potato1907 2 жыл бұрын
report it. you would not believe the consequences of bad procedures. one example is American Airlines Flight 191, due to improper maintenance and a small overlooked design flaw, it crashed a minute or two after losing an engine during take off at O'Hare international airport. American Airlines picked an "easier" method of engine repair. it snapped the connector connecting it to the wing pylon. It is the deadliest single accident on American soil as far as I'm aware
@EddVCR
@EddVCR Жыл бұрын
Yes, we all know that anxiety causes hair to turn green. The top executives of the water treatment facility should’ve chugged the black gluey water to show how perfectly safe it is 🤦🏻
@ryelor123
@ryelor123 2 ай бұрын
Its probably a public utility so it probably was protected from liability by the government.
@theShadowDay
@theShadowDay 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was hospitalized from an accidental water poisoning in Walkerton Canada back in 2000. 6 people died and 2000 got sick. This number always shocks me because at the time, the town only had 5000 residents. The water was improperly treated after heavy rain carried cow manure into the water system. Ended up with a town well being contaminated with e. coli. The reason it effected so many people so quickly was because the town had 3 different wells, but only one would be drawn from at a time. The bacteria had time to fester, and then it was that well's time to be the only source of water for the town.
@GrowFoodSustainably
@GrowFoodSustainably Жыл бұрын
The technicians responsible for testing the water there saw definite results of quality failure but they fudges the results. In the end one of the brothers went to jail. After the disaster, Ontario tightened people and product standards, including increasing fines for breach of trust.
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike Жыл бұрын
ngl, this would make a good episode for the channel...
@karenneill9109
@karenneill9109 10 ай бұрын
This episode immediately made me think of Walkerton.
@Jiiinxyyy
@Jiiinxyyy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s horrific what governments and companies get away with. This reminds me of that scene in Erin Brockovich where she offers the lawyers water from the affected town and none of them would drink it.
@andyroo3022
@andyroo3022 9 ай бұрын
I bet the authorities went and got bottled safe water after telling everyone it was okay to drink it. Or resided in another zone of water supply.
@meatlemonade3338
@meatlemonade3338 2 жыл бұрын
imagine bringing yourself to tell random innocent people "yeah, the water is full of poison. try mixing in something to cover up the taste!"
@neil1982
@neil1982 2 жыл бұрын
Just the fact it was found those pipes/tanks weren't cleaned in 5 years should make them responsible. Blaming mass hysteria is not just a way of relinquishing blame, but also another condescending dig at the victims.
@Straswa
@Straswa 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@annabellesmith4907
@annabellesmith4907 9 ай бұрын
Thank you sooo much ! This is what my town and counties water has been looking like for YEARS now.. The few times someone spoke up about it, they got ran out.. All of the symptoms clicked, when the man was holding up the jar, that was picture perfect comparison to our water.. now, I'm gonna start taking samples, and gonna have to take it to the state or something .. here's to hoping I don't go missing, but Fascinating Horror you are amazing. Thank you.
@Ahamkeira
@Ahamkeira 2 жыл бұрын
From my experiences as a disabled person, ANY authority figure will always blow off your symptoms to say it's fine or just anxiety if it doesn't make sense to them no matter what it is
@AliciaGuitar
@AliciaGuitar 2 жыл бұрын
Or if it will cause them to lose $$$!!!
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
Or in this case, the reports were so numerous and simultaneous, that there was a certainty that an incident had occurred, and it appeared the only thought was to avoid panic and wait until an investigation could determine what had happened. The public health aspect should have dictated that a general warning should have been broadcast about stopping water use until the problem could be understood. But, that would have been a big deal, would have necessitated intervention from the national government and water hauling for drinking. It was too big, and they didn't even invoke that after they knew. It was all a horrible tendency to wish something away rather than admit the vulnerabilty of a failed safety system and no safety net at all.
@Ahamkeira
@Ahamkeira 2 жыл бұрын
@Ann-Marie Paliukenas ESPECIALLY doctors
@HamEggsButteredToast
@HamEggsButteredToast 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly, to this day women have this issue in general as well. Everything concerning feminine health gets written off as psychosomatic, especially by male doctors. The origin of the word "hysteria" alone speaks volumes.
@blackosprey2219
@blackosprey2219 2 жыл бұрын
You could literally blow up a nuclear bomb and they'll call you hysterical for complaining about radiation poisoning.
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 2 жыл бұрын
I remember this incident well. When I was young, I used to visit North Cornwall on family holidays, but the year of this poisoning frightened me, as I was young at the time. I can't believe how badly this was handled, how there should have been a second enquiry, and how easy it was to allow this to happen. And it's sad how people are still affected so long after it happened
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 2 жыл бұрын
You mean, like You went there during a holiday? Like Xmas, or Easter? Or do you mean you just went on vacation with your family? Like, it's not the same thing. Or if you happened to take off around the actual holiday, you would call it, "I took some vacation days off work, before and after the holiday next month(although most people would just say "before and after 'specific name of said holiday(Xmas, easter, July 4th, and now our 2 new greatest holidays Jan 6th or June 24th),
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeworkman3593 Holiday means vacation in British English.
@kdolo1887
@kdolo1887 2 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. so then what's a holiday?
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@kdolo1887 We don't really have another word for it. We'd just say something like "I'm going on holiday [vacation] to Spain over Christmas [holiday]".
@mikeworkman3593
@mikeworkman3593 2 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. No shit. It's sarcasm Cause its stupid. Cause you can't use the same word for 2 different things. One is like a mandatory thing you get off for your work, they other is something you have to request for to be authorized
@JJJackson777
@JJJackson777 4 ай бұрын
i live 45 minutes from Camelford & spent 6 months working for SWW in 2022, the infastructure & layout of their plants is seriously outdated, the only thing to do on site for Operators is check things, fix things, or wait for someone to fix things, the work can be extremely dangerous for almost minimum wage, and we still get brown cloudy water through our household taps about 4 times a year (at least).
@algolin
@algolin 2 жыл бұрын
Who ever declared the water safe to drink should drink the same water for the same time as the poisened citizens.
@pmberry
@pmberry 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHi7ZaGDp9OrnZI
@mcdjinn6975
@mcdjinn6975 2 жыл бұрын
Poisoned
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, someone shoud've made them do the Krusty eating the metal krusty O thing "But sir, that'snormal, uncomtaminated water!" Executive, cltchign stomahc in pain: "It's poison."
@algolin
@algolin 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcdjinn6975 Thanks for a correction, kind sir!
@whiteyfisk9769
@whiteyfisk9769 2 жыл бұрын
Just trust the science and get vaxxed already ok???!!?
@connieembury1
@connieembury1 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Walkerton, Ontario, Canada, E. coli outbreak where the authorities blamed everybody but themselves. It was a truely tragic event.
@SIMULAT3DHUMAN3
@SIMULAT3DHUMAN3 Жыл бұрын
The government will always bury or blame everyone but themselves. It’s why indigenous communities in certain parts of canada don’t have access to drinking water
@iainballas
@iainballas Жыл бұрын
The fact that black tapwater was coming out and people thought "Yeah, I can use this, let's just phone it in" makes me wonder how bad the water of Camelford usually was...
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 Жыл бұрын
That was EXACTLY what I was thinking!! 😳 "Hang on, they went ahead & ingested this? What were they used to??" Based on historic images used, it looks like eventually locals did seek/receive an alternative drinking water source, but clearly too late for many alas 😔 The episode commentary suggested experts in aluminium toxicity were NOT actually involved in any of the inquiries to date too, but that seems a bit unlikely, given the level of publicity...? 🤔
@Admiral_Jezza
@Admiral_Jezza 2 жыл бұрын
When I began watching this I was like "I hope they blame who's in charge and not the driver" but nope, it was worst than that, since they tried covering it up and saying it was "safe".
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 Жыл бұрын
They were helped in the cover up by Sir Simon Wessely.
@DJPoundPuppy
@DJPoundPuppy 2 жыл бұрын
The way these people were treated really grinds my gears!!!
@TheOneTrueSpLiT
@TheOneTrueSpLiT 2 жыл бұрын
I find it incredible that (1) A single key could be used to "unlock" any of the tanks (2) There was no telephone at the site. I live in Cornwall, I know Camelford and South West Water is my water supplier but I can not fathom the stupidity of them and their "practices" - did they actually even have any? As for having their "customer service department" to frob off any people enquiring or complaining by issuing a "yeah yeah yeah, it's fine to drink, stop whinging" response I am totally gobsmacked. Jesus wept, have things changed for the better???
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 Жыл бұрын
More obvious solution? Only "A" key connector fits the correct slot. Like printer ink.
@deptusmechanikus7362
@deptusmechanikus7362 2 жыл бұрын
how in the hell there was no people on sight at the water treatment facility?!! not a single person and it just ran on its own, what the hell?!
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently no security or anything, not even a guard or nightwatchman. If this truck driver managed to do this by accident, think of the damage that could be done by someone with the right knowledge or malicious intent.
@jackking5567
@jackking5567 2 жыл бұрын
I remember it well. It's amazing how authorities can tell people to stay calm and all is well when the reality is residents were being poisoned. The connection between aluminium and the brain is a clear one. It's devastating effect on brain function is clear and evident. There are even certain recommendations with regards the use of aluminium cooking containers - I bet few here realise that fact alone. I remember these were grim times for water authorities and this event is one of many of that era. Can anyone remember the gassing of visitirs to a new treatment complex? I'm not sure if it was drinking water or human waste waters but just before opening, the authority gave a tour to locals to show why their lives had been disrupted during construction. It was inside a building where many were gassed. A fascinating series. Things like this occurred in more recent times and yet they get buried to protect those guilty. Keep them coming.
@domino5392
@domino5392 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings. I am so glad you covered this story. Many local people are still suffering from the aftermath of the poisoning. Just one pointer though: Cornwall is a Duchy - not a county.
@logann7942
@logann7942 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched a lot of your videos, and I notice a lot of similarities with these incidents. It seems most places just half-ass it on safety, staffing, training, and communication, and eventually enough of those deficiencies line up and it ruins a lot of lives. Oh and let’s not forget cover-ups after the fact.
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 2 жыл бұрын
If only they spent as much money and energy on training and safety as they do on cover ups, they wouldn't need cover ups!
@davethomasatemyhamster
@davethomasatemyhamster Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@aloser8703
@aloser8703 Жыл бұрын
Kind of tempted to poke through my work place's fire alarms just to be 100% sure they have current batteries. Am pretty sure but...
@ethribin4188
@ethribin4188 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how John Stevens must feel! The poor guy propably struggles mentaly with what he has done. Even though he has zero fault in it all.
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, he drove a truck for a chemical company, and he rationalized away the discharge of a serious chemical into a public water system. He wasn't a seven year old who could have been forgiven for being scared and hiding. His duty was to return to his plant, or to a place where he could call on a phone, and get clear directions. Instead, he guessed and made an entire region sick with poison. Claiming he has "zero fault" is making him little more than a child. If he was old enough and competent enough to be given a commercial driver's license for a large truck, he was presumably able to comprehend the safety training that all tanker drivers must undergo. Boobery of this level is only funny when it is done by cartoon characters like Homer Simpson. Should we have compassion on Mr. Stevens? Yes, but that doesn't mean exempting him from responsibility and accountability for what was a lazy and irresponsible and deadly action.
@krashd
@krashd 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say zero, when it comes to the handling of a dangerous chemical your instructions should always be cast-iron in nature, if there is even the tiniest doubt in your mind then the best thing to do is stop. John Stevens admitted that he was unsure of what to do and only pumped the aluminium into the first tank on the left because his key fitted it - he simply did it because his key fitted the lock.
@markyoung13
@markyoung13 2 жыл бұрын
I blame the water plant, their inwards delivery system wasn't totally foolproof, it was only a matter of time before a real fool turned up.
@foggyfrogy
@foggyfrogy 2 жыл бұрын
@@borderlineiq i give him 10% of the fault
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
@@foggyfrogy And that's fair.
@Rizahawkstang
@Rizahawkstang 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, water that glues your hair together and turns it green is completely safe to drink and any symptoms you experience are caused by anxiety 🙄
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 2 жыл бұрын
I spent many years delivering thing in what you in the UK call lorries. Delivery instructions were nearly always vague, and finding someone onsite is often impossible, even in this time where everybody apparently has a mobile phone. The pratcice is usually to blame the poor bloke that drove the truck. My time in the military taught me to never do something unless I had someone above me to sign off. The poor bugger driving in this case was screwed from beginning to end. but it wasn't his fault In those days he would have had instructions to do his job. He had no choice, unless he *knew* there was a problem. He was a driver, how could he?
@quillmaurer6563
@quillmaurer6563 2 жыл бұрын
What I'm glad to see is that they never scapegoated the driver, as seems like a common approach in these things. Put the blame on someone low on the ladder, or outside the organization. When it really wasn't his fault, he did the best he could with the information he had. Better signage was really needed, or someone there to meet him.
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I never got involved in hazmat or tanker work.
@KezanzatheGreat
@KezanzatheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
This is why, if I were in the driver's shoes, I wouldn't make the delivery at all unless I was 100% sure - and had confirmed with someone who works there and knows their way around - that the tank was correct. Nobody on site? I'll come back later. Nobody there again? Return the delivery and let them pay to get another one, properly handled this time. They wasted my time by not being there to receive the load properly. Always better safe than sorry. I don't blame the driver for this, though. He may not have fully understood the dangers of the chemical he was carrying, and he certainly didn't have the benefit of hindsight. You can't blame someone for just being ignorant. And the system 100% set him up for failure through its own negligence. A very interesting and infuriating case. Thanks for covering it!
@brianedwards7142
@brianedwards7142 2 жыл бұрын
So they didn't know what the problem was but they were sure it was safe to consume. Seems legit. 🤔
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, sheep are sheep. If your water stinks, and if it's discolored, and if it is killing animals and turning hair green, the consumer should have been demanding to know why and abstaining without an appropriate answer. The problem is, those residents wouldn't know for days how widespread the problem was, so may have felt it was a local plumbing failure. And most customers may have seen little wrong or fewers evidences, so assumbed pipes were being flushed or similar. But, the SWWA certainly knew the number of reports was obvious. And making up bullshit answers was criminal.
@alastormedial
@alastormedial 2 жыл бұрын
Feel like the obvious move whenever an authority or investigation says "nah it's fine" is to publicly offer them a glass of said water to drink.
@PaddyWag0n
@PaddyWag0n 2 жыл бұрын
@@alastormedial They'd just pull a "Gummer" and get a child to drink it instead :D
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
The US EPA declared the air safe at ground zero after buildings full of asbestos imploded.
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
@@katiekane5247 Also wrong.
@Amidamaru717
@Amidamaru717 2 жыл бұрын
I am the manager of a municipal drinking water plant in Canada with 11 years experience. If anyone is curious for a bit more detail on the process and chemicals used here, first of all the Alum (as we call it in the trade for short) is typically injected into the raw water tanks as mentioned, and this process is called coagulation, which leads to flocculation (the forming of a floc or the "clumps"). The clumps it forms in the water is due to the negative charge on the particles being attracted to the aluminum. The resultant floc is then settled out in a standard plant, or in some plants, such as mine, we directly filter the floc to a 0.1 Micron membrane filter rack. The person who accidentally put the Alum into that tank that fed to the treated water tanks was likely either the disinfectant tanks (chlorine usually) or the pH adjustment tanks (where either Sodium Carbonate or lime are used) to bring the finished product back to a nice neutral 7 pH as Alum treatment drags the pH down having a pH of only 2. In our plant, without adjusting end product pH with Sodium Carbonate the water would be leaving the plant with a pH of 4.8, which is sour on the tongue and not good for pipes.
@emordnilap4747
@emordnilap4747 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Though wouldn't something with a ph of 4.8 taste more sour?
@Amidamaru717
@Amidamaru717 2 жыл бұрын
@@emordnilap4747 you are correct, I realized it after I posted, fixed now
@emordnilap4747
@emordnilap4747 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amidamaru717 Okay, that makes sense. I was a bit confused. Acidic is sour, basic is bitter, and don't ammonia with chlorine, are about the limit of my chemistry knowledge.
@emordnilap4747
@emordnilap4747 2 жыл бұрын
@@Amidamaru717 Okay, that makes sense. I was a bit confused. Acidic is sour, basic is bitter, and don't ammonia with chlorine, are about the limit of my chemistry knowledge.
@Amidamaru717
@Amidamaru717 2 жыл бұрын
@@emordnilap4747 chemistry is hard lol I never in my life thought I'd end up doing such a chemistry heavy job, I hated chemistry in school. Funny little fact, even though chlorine and ammonia are a big no-no it's actually the standard practice to use ammonia to find a gas chlorine leak. Suit up in hazmat gear, take a spray bottle of ammonia and mist the chlorine lines, when you get a "smoke cloud" you found the leak, mark it, shut it down and make the repairs.
@jwsuicides8095
@jwsuicides8095 Жыл бұрын
If you want to see how sufferers were silenced have a look at the paper by Simon Wessely - he produced the original claims that effects from the water were psychosomatic. He is now a Sir. He has written about Gulf War Syndrome, Myalgic Encephalomyelitis, and the adverse affects of the recent jabbing programmes. Whenever a result is needed to show that the results of certain problems are psychosomatic he's your man. I have spoken with other relevant professors who just wish he'd keep quiet.
@rebekahg6426
@rebekahg6426 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much, they're so respectful and without shock factor or dramatic, anxiety-inducing pauses. If I might suggest a subject of a future video: The Cherry Mine Disaster of 1909? It was a catastrophic event, and hasn't been covered by many. I'm moving into the area near where it happened, and it came to my attention!
@YuBeace
@YuBeace 2 жыл бұрын
Good god, that was an easy mistake to make, way way way too easy mistake to make. But then the neglicence at the center… now that is just vile. How on earth could you even think fresh aluminium sulphate would be safe? Edit: They found aluminium in the lady’s brain and said “oh lol could’ve been something else.” Bruv?????
@Law-and-Disorder
@Law-and-Disorder 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he arguably should have known better than to just put the contents of his truck in a random place, but more importantly it shouldn’t have been possible for him to do it.
@borderlineiq
@borderlineiq 2 жыл бұрын
@@Law-and-Disorder The notion that a truck driver for a chemical plant is to be excused like some Homer Simpson is abhorrent. They have to take safety training to drive a tanker. He made the lazy choice to avoide going back for instructions or even to a local phone. It only takes one person to create a distaster. ONE stupid seaman could open the port on a submarine and the ship will founder.
@kevinjohnbetts
@kevinjohnbetts 2 жыл бұрын
@@borderlineiq Having worked on the administrative side of a wholesale business I think it's important to factor in how much pressure delivery drivers are put under. They're not paid to think long and hard about what they do. Directions to delivery sites are often vague and instructions on what to do when they get there even vaguer. Middle-management only care about the numbers and a diligent delivery driver who did what you suggest every time there was a bit of uncertainty would quickly find themselves looking for another job. Yes he bears some responsibility but of all the parties involved in the chain of events I would argue that his is the least.
@abebuckingham8198
@abebuckingham8198 2 жыл бұрын
It is safe, that's one of the reasons they use it for water treatment. It's a food additive and a common ingredient in lots of household products that don't come with a poison warning. If no one is getting sick from it outside this one town this one time I find it hard to believe it's the aluminum sulphate. The reality is that when things smell funny people get hysterical even if their is no danger. This is a textbook example of mass hysteria.
@YuBeace
@YuBeace 2 жыл бұрын
@@abebuckingham8198 It’s safe in small quantities, because it’s added at the start of the process the leftovers are neglectable. Problem here is that it was added at the end, and that the quantities were way higher. They literally found excess aluminium in the townsfolk’s autopsies, that really says something.
@brentmeg922
@brentmeg922 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the poisoning of Michigan in the early to mid 1970’s. People are still suffering the aftermath of that disaster to this day!
@bkgdnoize111
@bkgdnoize111 2 жыл бұрын
The cover ups that happened and continue to happen with other such harms in our society to this day is what is truly frightening
@colincampbell767
@colincampbell767 2 жыл бұрын
And if it were a private 'for profit' business - there would have been official investigations, possibly people arrested, and tens of millions of dollars paid out in lawsuits. The issue that happens is the concept of 'sovereign immunity' where public agencies and officials cannot be sued. When the EPA went and polluted an entire river due to their negligence - they were able to ignore all of the legal actions through the use of sovereign immunity. Just like when they made a test well to see if fracking was contaminating the water supply. They found hydrocarbons loudly announced their finding to the world - and then literally walked away from the open well. When the state came to properly abandon the well, they discovered that the source of the hydrocarbons the EPA found was from them spilling a tank of fuel and not cleaning it up. The fuel went down the well (wells flow in both directions) and this is what the EPA detected. And the state had to pay for the multimillion-dollar cleanup of the underground water that the EPA contaminated.
@grapeshot
@grapeshot 2 жыл бұрын
A perfect example of a company doubling down tripling down etc.
@greendragon4058
@greendragon4058 2 жыл бұрын
This video brings frustration and anger for me, I had at the time three small children and everybody told me the water was safe to drink. Nobody took responsibility for this not even the Water Authority All my children have been affected by this their body age is older by 10 years from what they are one of my daughters has dementia I too now I have early onset dementia
@Flyboy207
@Flyboy207 2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how the truck driver felt after this. I’m sure a lot of people would have made the same assumption, that the key would only open the correct tank. Human error is constant, but it’s the response to those errors which must catch them before something terrible happens.
@MercenaryBlackWaterz
@MercenaryBlackWaterz 2 жыл бұрын
"Just mix it with orange juice" what an incompetent bunch geez.
@1andonlyCavey
@1andonlyCavey 2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of the Flint Michigan water crisis? It super similar to this, 12 people died and a ton of kids got lead poisoning because the government and water treatment plant didn’t take the residents concerns seriously.
@speedzero7478
@speedzero7478 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen nearly all your videos and this surprised me as being among the worst case, in terms of those in charge completely shirking any responsibility. No accountability, no changes, no compensation, wow.
@nadapenny8592
@nadapenny8592 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the Gloria Ramirez situation where they tried to say that over 60 experienced emergency medical staff that suddenly became ill after being exposed to one specific patient dying of mysterious circumstances, were all just "participating in a group psychosis."
@jomama5186
@jomama5186 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. How awful! I was just graduating High School and don't remember hearing about this. Thank you for all the hard work and incredible detail you put into these videos. I can just about put myself right there the way you talk about these terrible events. ❤️🙏 for the communities that suffered and continue to suffer.
@maxhill7065
@maxhill7065 2 жыл бұрын
Also it's crazy that they advised people to add orange juice to cover the taste, mainly because I remembered mixing tang into the water I got in Costa Rica, it's the healthiest water in the Carribean but it did have an overly chemical taste to it as a result that the tang perfectly covered, saved tons of money not buying bottled water but now I'm hoping it was all above-board
@exodous02
@exodous02 2 жыл бұрын
It is so weird that they needed to have the driver explain where he put the aluminum sulfate. Why didn't they just turn on the tap and test what came out?
@CAPNBEANS
@CAPNBEANS 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed they knew by then they were just trying to find out how it happened.
@georginabensley9453
@georginabensley9453 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing exactly where it went into the system would be useful data for figuring out which parts of the system needed to be decontaminated. The tap at the end is not the only thing that needs work. It's not dumb to ask, the dumb part is them doing _nothing_ for ages and blindly reassuring people it was safe without having looked into it at all.
@ingvarhallstrom2306
@ingvarhallstrom2306 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because someone denied the accident could even happen that way, so the driver had to come there to tell them.
@urk5204
@urk5204 2 жыл бұрын
going for that good ol' plausible deniability, so they could pretend they didn't know about it almost immediately with the multitude of sensors these places have, even in the late 80s.
@freedomlinux
@freedomlinux 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! It could be just omitted from the script, but no one is *ever* described as testing the actual water or measuring the level of contaminants.
@Zimin_Anatoly2000
@Zimin_Anatoly2000 2 жыл бұрын
Love to watch your videos. I enjoy to know about disasters that i didn't know and improve my english. Thanks for your content.
@ruthpearsall2618
@ruthpearsall2618 4 ай бұрын
My father in law worked in a factory making aluminium windows for decades. He showed signs of dementia even before his retirement at 63. When he died at 73 it transpired that his closest colleague was also stricken with identical symptoms. I’ve often wondered if they had work related illnesses.
@35Spidey
@35Spidey 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. I would love to see Fascinating Horror cover the e-coli water contamination that occurred in Walkerton, Ontario, Canada in May of 2000. 2300 people got sick and seven died. Very similar circumstances to Camelford with people being allowed to drink the water even though it was known something was wrong. A TV movie called Betrayed was made in 2003 based on the Walkerton catastrophe.
@ExValeFor
@ExValeFor 2 жыл бұрын
I had to repeatedly check that I wasn't watching an April Fools reupload. Legit sounds like the plot to a grisly dark comedy movie. I lost it when people's hair started turning green.
@earthbit.
@earthbit. 2 жыл бұрын
It's truly inspiring the lengths humans will go to exercise astounding levels of incompetence. Nobody on hand when an expected delivery is inbound? Allowing the driver to offload his own delivery in a critical service facility, with only vague verbal instructions? A master key that will unlock a variety of hatches to water at various stages of treatment? Fully treated water stored right next to in-process sewage? All of the hatches entirely unlabeled? Place was clearly run by a pack of geniuses. Just mix it with some OJ. You'll be fine.
@beth4928
@beth4928 2 жыл бұрын
Only a £10,000 fine for this absolute sh*tshow of gaslighting?? What a miscarriage of justice.
@daydreaming4874
@daydreaming4874 2 жыл бұрын
I feel kinda bad for the tank operator. I hope he is doing ok in life. I don't blame him in covering his face! I probably would have invested in a mask if I were in that situation.
@thurayya8905
@thurayya8905 Жыл бұрын
Camelford deserves an unbiased report about the water and poisonings. It is evident that the area's authorities do not want this because they know that they will be found liable. No one will admit guilt or wrongdoing and the residents will continue to suffer.
@OmegaPaladin144
@OmegaPaladin144 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as always! I appreciate having an industrial incident video on my birthday, as that is my field or close to it. If you want another industrial disaster from the UK to cover, try the Flixborough disaster. It is a well-studied explosion that cost 28 workers their lives, and led to massive changes in chemical plant safety alongside the Seveso tragedy.
@ProjectDarkWolf
@ProjectDarkWolf 2 жыл бұрын
I worked security at water treatment sites for a few years in the 2010s, and most of them were being renovated for the first time in fifty years. On most of them, the only signs on site were codes that meant nothing to non employees. If you were lucky, there was a faded "deep water" notice zip tied to a guard rail. The only thing that was obvious was a lack of funding for upkeep of the facilities.
@dew7545
@dew7545 Жыл бұрын
Yup ..#1. You get what you pay for ... and #2. There's usually a good reason for all those complicated safety regulations surrounding public utilities . Complex safety regs may seem like an unnecessary nusiance...until a whole towns water supply gets poisoned... (or somebody decides to take a group of unwitting passengers in a rickety sub down to see the ruins of the titanic.)
@Jay_Speed
@Jay_Speed 2 жыл бұрын
As truck driver I experienced that absence off labeling, locks and so on still is here today in many factories and facilities. Own personal that not even are sure in which tank you have to unload, dirty tanks, leaking tanks, missing locks, wrongly turn 't valves and so on. Even places that have the label ISO 9002, I am sure it will happen again.
@anggab96
@anggab96 2 жыл бұрын
i’ve watched all of your videos and the most subjectivity i’ve ever heard is when you said “twELVE DAYS” around 6 minutes in.. I feel you
@wjye
@wjye 2 жыл бұрын
I work in municipal water filtration. Under no circumstances, would a truck driver be allowed to just unload a product into a tank at my plant without supervision, especially a new driver unfamiliar with the facility. Also I’m surprised nobody was testing the water in the distribution system. If the water was showing up black/sludgy colored it would show up as turbidity. Turbidity is basically a measurement of the clarity of the water. Water with higher turbidity (aka cloudy/discolored water) usually means the water is dirty and could have bacteria in it. We are required to sample and record turbidity of the water leaving our plant EVERY HOUR. And it’s also monitored 24/7 in real-time with multiple systems throughout the plant. We also test for turbidity at points all through out the water distribution system every day. If all the sudden the water leaving the plant had high turbidity, we would be required to shut down. Testing for turbidity in my understanding is pretty universal in water treatment, so either this plant was testing for turbidity and KNEW about it and continued to pump out contaminated water or they weren’t testing at all. This sounds completely negligent and lazy. In the US a treatment plant operator can be held legally accountable for negligence especially if the public gets sick from an operator failing to do their jobs. Public health is not a joke.
@gma1343
@gma1343 2 жыл бұрын
This is something I knew nothing about. Fantastically interesting information. Once again you have given us great content about unknown tragedy and human error we may never had heard of. Great job.
@ComaDave
@ComaDave 2 жыл бұрын
When the South West Water Authority told them "It's all in their heads" they weren't kidding, were they? 😒
@KevinCerovich
@KevinCerovich 2 жыл бұрын
I love the attention to detail here. For instance: the late ‘80s telephones shown.
@jmciver1337
@jmciver1337 2 жыл бұрын
Im sure all the dead animals were just hysterical too
@CrypticCharm
@CrypticCharm 2 жыл бұрын
i remember this, i was 8 and in West London. there was a scare and no one was drinking tap water. the hatches were so close together, how this didn't happen earlier is a miracle
@Monothefox
@Monothefox 2 жыл бұрын
Keying all the tanks the same is to ask for trouble, especially if the tanks are not clearly marked. How was this installation commissioned and approved?
@fredorman2429
@fredorman2429 2 жыл бұрын
Government always tells the truth about the services it provides, as we have seen during the Covid pandemic. It’s interesting that the Camelford fish, farm animals and pets also suffered from the same psychosomatic experience. Right!
@iwaspinnygigfirst
@iwaspinnygigfirst 2 жыл бұрын
@Fascinating Horror I will never forget an episode of "I Survived" (Wayne & Mary S1 E6) A train derailment caused chlorine gas to overwhelm this couple's farm. The description of what followed was fascinating and horrifying!! You should do a video on it!
@ladyabaxa
@ladyabaxa 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of chlorine gas, there was an accident just yesterday (June 27th, 2022) in the port of Aqaba in Jordan: a 25 tonne tank being loaded onto a ship by a crane fell when something broke, smashing open on the deck and releasing all that gas as a huge yellow cloud. Ten people are reported dead and 251 injured.
@gallow_
@gallow_ Жыл бұрын
You do not know how soothing it is to hear someone online say aluminium properly it's like smooth silky asmr
@sammysam3067
@sammysam3067 2 жыл бұрын
Whooooooo Jesus I've been cleaning since 6:30pm and finished at 5:22am, nothing like a relaxing disaster video
@echothehusky
@echothehusky Жыл бұрын
It's amazing something as cheap and simple as a sign on each tank would have saved all of this.
@rrknl5187
@rrknl5187 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing I’ve learned from this and other videos like it is never trust the word of any government agency or any business.
@ericplunder2744
@ericplunder2744 2 жыл бұрын
Which is a problem. Because then you end up with Q-Anon crazies.
@meredithgrubb4497
@meredithgrubb4497 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that simple labels could have prevented this is so freaking sad.
@chegeny
@chegeny 2 жыл бұрын
I fell as though people's health and safety were sacrificed in Camelford as a result of the water privatisation in England and Wales during that time.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 жыл бұрын
This water board was still publicly run at the time.
@The20thHijacker
@The20thHijacker 2 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. Shhh... don't tell them. People need to believe that Mommy Government keeps them safe.
@richardcummins5465
@richardcummins5465 9 ай бұрын
Nothings changed. I worked these sites 20 years later, and i found most of operations staff willing enough, but totally CLUELESS, due to lack of sufficient training.
@QT5656
@QT5656 2 жыл бұрын
Water services should be state owned, adequately regulated, and not run for profit.
@Fr33zeBurn
@Fr33zeBurn 2 жыл бұрын
And that would help how? Just changes from greedy & corrupt corporations to greedy & corrupt civil servants.
@QT5656
@QT5656 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr33zeBurn Despite what the tabloid press and mainstream media (owned by billionaire share holders) tell you, there are many reasons why privatization of water services is bad. 1. costs for the tax payer have gone up because profits are paid to shareholders not reinvested in the service and infrastructure; 2. less transparency (particularly when they are based overseas), e.g. freedom of Information requests can be blocked because of ‘commercial confidentiality’, 3. private companies are less accountable, the public can't vote against their service if they are unhappy; 4. water services are natural monopolies, you can't actually choose different water supplier, there is no consumer power or "free market". 5. when private companies fail to deliver public services the tax payer has to bail them out anyway, e.g. Carillion. 6. private companies always put profit first over service or public health, Southern Water dumped raw sewage into the sea for years. Instead of spending their profits on improving their services they spent it on lawyers to try to cover it up and fancy propaganda websites to gas light the feeble minded.
@ForeverLaxx
@ForeverLaxx 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, because the government has *never* ruined anything before with rampant corruption followed by massive coverups. I will never understand you people that demand the government do everything for them like they're such an infallible force for good. Move to an authoritarian country if you want this crap so bad.
@bugjams
@bugjams 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fr33zeBurn Aren't you just a ray of sunshine...
@QT5656
@QT5656 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForeverLaxx the government is far from perfect but I would much rather my taxes go to public institutions than predatory companies (often based overseas) that always choose profits over people and spend money on lawyers to weasel out of laws that the public have voted for. I understand exactly why you think the way you do - you believe propaganda media owned by billionaires who demonise government regulations at every opportunity. Public health crises due to lead, PFOA, mercury, dioxins, and opioids were all caused by private companies and *lack* of government oversight. Moreover, private management of public services is zero protection against authoritarian government - just look at USA with it's mass surveillance, militarised police, border control guards that are now above the law, and attempts at predictive police.
@someone-ss7bm
@someone-ss7bm 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve lived in North Cornwall all my life, absolutely horrifying to hear something like this happen so close to home.
@ShrinkingWallflower
@ShrinkingWallflower Жыл бұрын
I lived just round the corner in Bodmin until last year. Crazy! I had no idea about this incident. I’ve been to Camelford several times over the years.
@NeedsMoreBirds
@NeedsMoreBirds 2 жыл бұрын
The aluminium found in decedents after the accident, along with the animals that died after drinking the water, should prove that the symptoms were never psychosomatic. The outcome of this one is really frustrating.
@airliner7478
@airliner7478 2 жыл бұрын
So, a lot of animals and fish died, they found that the delivery was placed in the wrong tank, and many residents kept complaining of deteriorating health and suspicious water. YET the official statement was: "The water is safe for consumption. You're all just hysterical from fear and paranoia." I wonder if someone presented copies of these statements to a judge. That would make for an open-and-shut case in court.
@RootedHat
@RootedHat 2 жыл бұрын
After 20 minutes, he went "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" on choosing the tank.
@bobertoroberto953
@bobertoroberto953 2 ай бұрын
The water authority were like, “Of course the water is disgusting, we never clean the tanks.”
@venturingwgio_9267
@venturingwgio_9267 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for giving me something to listen to during my night shift at work
@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to Casefile Presents? It's excellent.
@venturingwgio_9267
@venturingwgio_9267 2 жыл бұрын
@@zero_bs_tolerance8646 no but I will definitely give it a check
@hotsoup1001
@hotsoup1001 2 жыл бұрын
There is no amount of reassurance that would convince me to drink water that would curdle milk.
@CinnastixChick
@CinnastixChick 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a fascinating horror before bed at 2am
@DaNinjaWhisperer
@DaNinjaWhisperer 2 жыл бұрын
2am!! Lucky It’s almost 6am and time for work here but I must watch first! 🤣
@daisychain5894
@daisychain5894 2 жыл бұрын
Just leaving 11am here, drinking a glass of water in the UK 🤭
@sunsetlights100
@sunsetlights100 2 жыл бұрын
10pm NZ time I was undecided at first but then i went for it
@rrios283s73
@rrios283s73 2 жыл бұрын
410 am here
@rrios283s73
@rrios283s73 2 жыл бұрын
410 am here
@UKnowtheThing
@UKnowtheThing 2 жыл бұрын
I work for a utilities company on the drinking water side and can't imagine being this lackadaisical and incompetent about safety and procedure.
@jaxkovak
@jaxkovak 2 жыл бұрын
The original mistake by the driver was caused by the lack of signs on tanks and the same key fitting all of them. I have little doubt that this issue was as a result of wanting to save money. While I do not for a moment agree with the idea of the sate running everything (I don't trust the government to run a bath), I have to wonder how safe it is to allow private, profit minded companies to run essential services. Strict and mandatory guidelines might help, but only if they are regularly checked and enforced rigidly, and that, of course, costs even more money that no-one wants to spend.
@foggyfrogy
@foggyfrogy 2 жыл бұрын
The problem was that they had a monopoly. So no one controlled them 😡
@caj21jac
@caj21jac 2 жыл бұрын
How is the drivers is responsible for the signage on a site and a key fitting all locks. That's the most stupid statement I ever read
@PaddyWag0n
@PaddyWag0n 2 жыл бұрын
@@foggyfrogy The monopoly wasn't the issue, the lack of effective government or local authority oversight was
@nthgth
@nthgth 2 жыл бұрын
Governments and private companies alike are out to save money; I think for a public works gig like this having both might be best. Let the company run it directly; spending their own (not tax) money means their money management is probably smarter, but for _God's sake_ enforce codes and laws about tank cleanings and signage and all that.
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